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#26
For what its worth my system has this coming out at 32-21 Alabama
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'Bama -10.5 at Auburn.................................................................
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#27
Onthemound,,
Saban is not that good of a coach ?? Really ?? And you claim to know sports?? You're pure hatred and jealousy for Alabama is comical and brings a smile to my face 
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..Does it bother you that Bama is KING of CFB ?? I mean does it just chap your coonazz that no matter if Bama loses they will be back contending for NC every single year that Saban is there ? Does it hurt to see the best players from your state making plays in Crimson trimmed in white ? And no internet tough guy, you couldn't beat me at anything.. To prove my point, why don't you man up and take the bet ? ((to answer the guy above, we would know if this clown came in under another name from the CAPS LOCK BAMMER SLAMMING he will be doing,, 
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))So lets do this tough guy, I got Bama -10.5 Ban bet... just need a confirmation from you, loser....
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#29
Im on Auburn 100% Been that way since I heard Malzahn was coming to Auburn. I was betting Auburn in the Iron Bowl
I knew they would put the line where people would be scared to not take Alabama.
Alabama is over-rated. From the easy schedule, to the "OK" running game, to the inflated lines.
Im not an Alabama hater, Im college football fan. I dont think they get thru the next two games or first one to Auburn. If they do beat Auburn and Missouri or South Carolina they they deserve the shot at the National Championship.
They dont deserve anything at this point in the year.
Florida State is putting up video game scores.
Missouri is handling teams
Auburn is running the ball 90% of the time and dominating.
Auburn wins lower scoring game. They get the stops on 3rd down, they win the special teams battle.
Auburn 24 Alabama 23
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#31
ok, stache, so you're saying you like Auburn because bama is overrated and they've played an easy schedule. way to give us some good X's and O's on this one or anything that would lead us to believe you have a clue what you're talking about.
at least give us some logic that makes sense. Auburn has played basically the same schedule as Bama so your one point is weak.
what a waste of a write up and anyone's time reading it.
at least give us some logic that makes sense. Auburn has played basically the same schedule as Bama so your one point is weak.
what a waste of a write up and anyone's time reading it.
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#32
Quote Originally Posted by abizzo24:
ok, stache, so you're saying you like Auburn because bama is overrated and they've played an easy schedule. way to give us some good X's and O's on this one or anything that would lead us to believe you have a clue what you're talking about.
at least give us some logic that makes sense. Auburn has played basically the same schedule as Bama so your one point is weak.
what a waste of a write up and anyone's time reading it.
ok, stache, so you're saying you like Auburn because bama is overrated and they've played an easy schedule. way to give us some good X's and O's on this one or anything that would lead us to believe you have a clue what you're talking about.
at least give us some logic that makes sense. Auburn has played basically the same schedule as Bama so your one point is weak.
what a waste of a write up and anyone's time reading it.
Unfortunately Abizzo I dont have you give "YOU" any x's and o's. Ive been telling you to bet Auburn the last 4 weeks and you have been talking about fading them the last 4 weeks.
College football isnt all about "x's and o's" Thats what guys that dont understand it say.
College football is about emotions, home field, revenge, and great coaches.
Do I need to put a collage together of your last 4 weeks talking about fading Auburn??
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#33
Stache, I too have been on AU every week except vs LSU and UGA.. They lost 1 and should've lost the other.. AU played their hearts out and gave UGA 100%, while UGA played very poorly, tackled with no arms, busted about 50% of their coverages, and STILL should've won the game.. NOW, they didn't and Auburn was the better team cause they won the game.. But AU had trouble with both LSU and UGA.. Here's the deal, Bama is MUCH MUCH better than both of those teams.. It's a rivalry game that is very heated, both need the win to go to the SECCG.. And the line is 10.5 ? Lol, yeah gimme Bama.. Not because the line screams "TAKE BAMA", but because Bama is better at EVERY position on the field and has the better coaching staff.. Mallazan has done a GREAT GREAT job turning AU around and should possibly be COTY.. But much like ND last year, it's way to early for AU to contend with the ELITE.. I would still put AU at #4 because they deserve it.. And I would back them against a lot of the top 25.. But Bama is just to much for them this year.. You will see..
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#34
Mr-Stache, I am Not following your 4 keys to college football in regards to this years Iron Bowl.
Home Field- check the home wins vs road wins in the Iron Bowl
Revenge- you might have something.....bama 91-14 past 2 years, I would be pretty pissed as well, but not much AU can do about it.
Great Coaches- agree Gus-Bus is Good, but Great belongs in TTOWN.
42-17 BAMA
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#35
Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:
Everyone should simply disregard everything you said, most of it is opinion and not facts.
Fact: Marshall is a bad passer.
Stop letting emotions get in the way. A team facing Bama who averages less than 20 pass attempts per game has absolutely no shot to beat them. There's a reason they don't throw the ball much, and even when they do, good things don't happen often.
Another important point people have taken into considering is, if Auburns run game struggles, then you can basically throw the play action pass out the window.
This game has virtually no chance to be competitive.
You're not serious are you? 
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#36
Onthemound you sir are a fucking dipshit. Nobody has been able to run the ball on Bama and Marshall only throws the ball where decent safeties can pick it off. HCD and Collins will both have pick 6s. McCarron will have a field day on the AU secondary when he needs to. Stache, get ready to give a mustache ride to Saban as Bama wins by 3 TDs.
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#37
Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:
This game won't be close.
This game won't be close.
Auburn is a team that relies completely on their run game. No one has been able to run the ball effectively on Bama for a long time. What makes people think this Auburn team is going to be the team that finally dies it? If they're forced to throw the ball it will get ugly, mainly because Nick Marshall is not a good passer.
It's come to the point that people are sick of Bama and just want them to lose. This Auburn team has a weak defence and is physically outmatched everywhere on the field.
Bama wins by 28+.
Why don't you just save the characters and say "lock". 
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#38
Quote Originally Posted by gwjtf:
Spartacus -
Your astounding football intellect continues to move us.
I am well familiar with what sets a line and, more importantly, what MOVES it. It’s one of the reasons I would have preferred to bet the game at -15/15.5 rather than 10/10.5, and why such esteemed cappers on this site as WahooS and JDN will not touch the game at 10/10.5 - because it is a very fair line. A hell of a lot more fair than -28 or such to indicate, as you errantly suggest, a game where Auburn has virtually no chance to be competitive. Utter Bullshit, and I will explain why.
Since you seem to like facts so much yet offer absolutely none but an opinion ‘Marshall is a bad passer’ that you mislabel as ‘fact’; on the year Bama has thrown for 2326 yards and rushed for 2566 yards for total of 4892 yards. Excellent balance. But Auburn has thrown for 1976 yards, with 3523 rushing yards for total of 5499 yards in the same number of games and a harder SOS. Auburn’s 1976 passing yards is only 350 yards lower than Alabama on the season, or about 32 fewer yards passing per game on average, but Auburn’s rushing stats are 1000 yards greater on the season, or about 90 yards per game on average. Indeed, Auburn is the no. 1 rushing team in the conference by a significant margin so the fact they are merely 32 yards per game lower than the Tide passing the ball is not that surprising. Yet you insist Marshall is a ‘bad passer.’ You provide no facts to back that up; just your opinion that you call ‘fact.’ Well, I call bullshit on your opinion because that’s what it is.
Nick Marshall, competing in 10 games (he sat out 1 game to minor injury as a precautionary measure) is averaging 153 yds per game throwing the ball, in addition to running for 82 yards per game for total offense of 235 yards per game. A.J. McCarron, by contrast, is throwing for 218 yards per game, but rushing for .45 YARD per game, or 218 total yards per game. McCarron throws for 65 more yards per game, but Marshall runs for 82 more yards per game and Marshall leads McCarron in total yards per game. Moreover, Marshall has 9 rushing TDs to McCarron’s 0; McCarron has 23 passing TDs to Marshall’s 9. So McCarron has accounted for 23 total TDs to Marshall’s 18; both QBs have exactly 5 INTs each. Yet again, Marshall has done this against tougher competition/higher SOS – ranked before season by Phil Steele at #18 vs #40 for Bama; and ranked through Nov. 23 by Sagarin @ # 39 Auburn vs #55 Bama.
In addition, Marshall only started playing this offense in August of this year, having not participated in Spring ball, and has steadily and significantly improved his play throughout the season as he has gotten more comfortable with the reads and the offense generally – something not always easily discernable by stats. Even so, by the numbers against a tougher schedule, Auburn throws the ball nearly as well as Bama (32 yards per game is not significantly consequential), runs it better than Bama by the numbers, but somehow according to you, while providing little or no ‘facts’ to back it up, at home in a rivalry game off 2 weeks rest, Auburn which has improved during the year as much or more than any other team in CFB, playing with as much confidence as any team in the country, has virtually no chance to be competitive.
And as for Bama’s vaunted defense, averaging only 9.3 points allowed per game, that stat is without question padded by shutouts or very few points allowed to teams like Chattanooga, Georgia State, Kentucky, etc. When Bama faces a legitimate dual threat QB (Manziel) that can hurt you with his arm or his feet and surrounded by playmakers, they surrender 42 points. They are about to be tested by another such athletic, dual threat QB in Nick Marshall, surrounded by a greater number of even better playmakers than Manziel has at his disposal.
Perhaps in your world Spartacus this team has no chance to be competitive -- perhaps also in your world the sky is green, the ocean is red, and unicorns prance about the field of play with fairies and mermaids, I don’t know. But in the real world of football, played by real human beings, AND supported by considerable buttressing facts, they most certainly can.
GW
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#39
gwtjf
All these stats are irrelevant. Football in general is heavily based on match ups, and the statistics you speak of don't apply to this scenario.
The only person to have any success what so ever running the ball on Bama has been JF. He, unlike Nick Marshall, is a true dual threat QB.
Those passing stats you see from Nick Marshall will be insignificant in this game. In all those other games, Auburn had tremendous success running the ball, but it's highly unlikely they will have success against Bama. The running game opened up the passing game, especially the quick short routes and the play action pass.
So, when Marshall is forced to step back and start slinging it all over the field, how much success do you think he will have?
Marshall has thrown 8 TD's and 5 INT's this season, he averages less than 20 pass attempts per game, and has not once faced a situation where the running game wasn't very good.
Without a balanced attack, Marshall will be hung out to dry. When has Marshall faced a situation where he will be forced to throw under pressure against blitzes?
Bama has them outmatched at every single position on the field, this match up is a nightmare for Auburn.
It's basically impossible to beat Saban and this Bama squad without a balanced attack. If Auburn has success running the ball, then they definitely have a chance, but, I just don't see how an Auburn team that is physically outmatched in the trenches is going to do what basically everyone else fails to do, run on Bama.
All these stats are irrelevant. Football in general is heavily based on match ups, and the statistics you speak of don't apply to this scenario.
The only person to have any success what so ever running the ball on Bama has been JF. He, unlike Nick Marshall, is a true dual threat QB.
Those passing stats you see from Nick Marshall will be insignificant in this game. In all those other games, Auburn had tremendous success running the ball, but it's highly unlikely they will have success against Bama. The running game opened up the passing game, especially the quick short routes and the play action pass.
So, when Marshall is forced to step back and start slinging it all over the field, how much success do you think he will have?
Marshall has thrown 8 TD's and 5 INT's this season, he averages less than 20 pass attempts per game, and has not once faced a situation where the running game wasn't very good.
Without a balanced attack, Marshall will be hung out to dry. When has Marshall faced a situation where he will be forced to throw under pressure against blitzes?
Bama has them outmatched at every single position on the field, this match up is a nightmare for Auburn.
It's basically impossible to beat Saban and this Bama squad without a balanced attack. If Auburn has success running the ball, then they definitely have a chance, but, I just don't see how an Auburn team that is physically outmatched in the trenches is going to do what basically everyone else fails to do, run on Bama.
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#41
Oh this is rich – first you say we need facts and, then I provide them to you and you say they are irrelevant and don't apply. Of course you provide virtually no facts to support your thesis, just statements of opinion like, ‘it’s basically impossible to beat Saban and this Bama squad without a balanced attack’ (the same thing could be said about nearly any good team, Nimrod), ‘Bama has them outmatched at every single position on the field’ (Really? I rather think Sammie Coates and Ricardo Louis match up well against Bama’s corners; to say nothing of Tre Mason, Cameron Artis-Payne & Corey Grant against their LBs, and C.J. Uzomah against their safeties. I also think Auburn’s veteran OL, with 3 bona fide future NFL players who have played together without injury or significant interruption all season long will hold up just fine against Bama’s DL.) This nightmare matchup for Auburn you refer to is nonexistent in evidence, only in your head.
The rest of your glittering analysis of why Auburn won’t be competitive is based upon your version of what if’s, nothing else. What if Auburn can’t run the ball effectively (despite the fact no one has stopped them yet)? What if Marshall has to throw the ball under pressure? (see games against Miss. St., Texas A&M, Arkansas, and Georgia where he made clutch throws at key times to move the chains and score in critical possessions). Followed by ‘if they run the ball effectively, they definitely have a chance’ – a far cry and backpedal from your previous ludicrous claims that they have virtually no chance to be competitive.
Well, what if Auburn goes up 2 scores in the 1st quarter and A.J. McCarron has to play on the road from behind for the first time all year? What if Bama can’t stop Auburn’s read option run attack where 4 different players can run the ball from the same set? What if C.J. Mosley gets tossed for targeting and A.J. McCarron throws 2 picks because Dee Ford is living in his backfield?
That’s why they play the game, Spartacus. Don’t give me your what ifs. I’ve provided facts why Auburn has a chance in this game. You’ve provided opinion and what ifs for why you THINK they don’t, and have backpedaled once your reasoning (or lack thereof) has been exposed. You better hope Bama isn’t as outclassed on the field this Saturday as you have been in this thread ….
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#43
Quote Originally Posted by gwjtf:
Oh this is rich – first you say we need facts and, then I provide them to you and you say they are irrelevant and don't apply. Of course you provide virtually no facts to support your thesis, just statements of opinion like, ‘it’s basically impossible to beat Saban and this Bama squad without a balanced attack’ (the same thing could be said about nearly any good team, Nimrod), ‘Bama has them outmatched at every single position on the field’ (Really? I rather think Sammie Coates and Ricardo Louis match up well against Bama’s corners; to say nothing of Tre Mason, Cameron Artis-Payne & Corey Grant against their LBs, and C.J. Uzomah against their safeties. I also think Auburn’s veteran OL, with 3 bona fide future NFL players who have played together without injury or significant interruption all season long will hold up just fine against Bama’s DL.) This nightmare matchup for Auburn you refer to is nonexistent in evidence, only in your head.
The rest of your glittering analysis of why Auburn won’t be competitive is based upon your version of what if’s, nothing else. What if Auburn can’t run the ball effectively (despite the fact no one has stopped them yet)? What if Marshall has to throw the ball under pressure? (see games against Miss. St., Texas A&M, Arkansas, and Georgia where he made clutch throws at key times to move the chains and score in critical possessions). Followed by ‘if they run the ball effectively, they definitely have a chance’ – a far cry and backpedal from your previous ludicrous claims that they have virtually no chance to be competitive.
Well, what if Auburn goes up 2 scores in the 1st quarter and A.J. McCarron has to play on the road from behind for the first time all year? What if Bama can’t stop Auburn’s read option run attack where 4 different players can run the ball from the same set? What if C.J. Mosley gets tossed for targeting and A.J. McCarron throws 2 picks because Dee Ford is living in his backfield?
That’s why they play the game, Spartacus. Don’t give me your what ifs. I’ve provided facts why Auburn has a chance in this game. You’ve provided opinion and what ifs for why you THINK they don’t, and have backpedaled once your reasoning (or lack thereof) has been exposed. You better hope Bama isn’t as outclassed on the field this Saturday as you have been in this thread ….
If you think by providing statistics that isn't relevant to the topic at hand, then yes, I've been outclassed.
Clearly we have completely different views on this match up, so we'll see once they play the game who has been "outclassed"
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#45
Who said anything about running??? You must be a BAMMER GRADUATE INGRAM 22??? Can you read??
INGRAM and all BAMMER running backs SUCK in the NFL!!!
Cant hold and CHEAT there!!
You can damn sure pass all over that weak azz SABAN DEFENSE!!! Oh and CB'S and SAFETIES supposed to be NICKY RUNTS specialty!! What a JOKE!! Thats your great coach you FU CKING IDIOT!! Believe me I do know SPORTS!!
Hell sorry azz COL ST threw all over them and a few other weak azz teams!! But of course you only play weak azz teams and 2-3 decent teams a year!! You better hope you dont play FSU and winston is QB for championship!!
Will be a DRILLING!! If your LUCKY AZZ makes it that far!!
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#47
3 BLIND FA GS!!
BAMMER not better at every POSITION!!!
DEE FORD is 10 times better than any defensive player BAMMER has!! TRE MASON better RB than any BAMMER has!! FUMBLING fools BAMMER have when the PUZZIES get hit by a good teams players or sorry high school defense which is mostly what they play!!
TRY TO LEARN SOMETHING NUMBNUT!!!
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#50
Quote Originally Posted by abizzo24:
I'll pay to see Auburn 'consistently' throw the ball and move the chains. Huge IF against a bama team that will be ready for them and is used to this kind of stage (this is new for Auburn). Bama will have an answer for their running attack and will score plenty against the Auburn defense (run / pass pick your poison).
Auburn backers better just pray they don't get down a couple TD's early.
I'll pay to see Auburn 'consistently' throw the ball and move the chains. Huge IF against a bama team that will be ready for them and is used to this kind of stage (this is new for Auburn). Bama will have an answer for their running attack and will score plenty against the Auburn defense (run / pass pick your poison).
Auburn backers better just pray they don't get down a couple TD's early.
Really? 2010 ring a bell?
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