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#1
too many points on the plains, Aub gona move the ball just watch,
Bama wins by 6
Bama wins by 6
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'Bama -10.5 at Auburn.................................................................
Posted:
#6
This game won't be close.
Auburn is a team that relies completely on their run game. No one has been able to run the ball effectively on Bama for a long time. What makes people think this Auburn team is going to be the team that finally dies it? If they're forced to throw the ball it will get ugly, mainly because Nick Marshall is not a good passer.
It's come to the point that people are sick of Bama and just want them to lose. This Auburn team has a weak defence and is physically outmatched everywhere on the field.
Bama wins by 28+.
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Posted:
#8
Everybody thinks Auburn can't pass the ball when, as CGM has stated repeatedly, they can and do, they just prefer to run until it is stopped because running the ball, generally, is less risky than throwing it. No one has stopped their run game all year, so they haven't passed as much particularly in the latter part of the season - but that will change this week.
They have shown they can pass the ball - and I'm not talking about the Georgia game with the miracle catch to win, but all year players like Sammie Coates (who led the nation in yards per catch for most of the season), Ricardo Louis, Cory Grant, C.J. Uzomah, all these guys can catch the ball and Marshall has done an excellent job taking what the defense gives and distributing it to all of them.
This is why I like Auburn to keep this game competitive. They will distribute the ball to the open man on easy routes - slants, screens, digs, etc., and then have success running the ball on the read option, whether it's Marshall or Tre or Artis-Payne or Corey Adams. They'll also take shots over the top, which they have shown they can convert as well. Auburn has a lot of guys that can score at any time and Alabama won't be able to contain all of them, all game long. Auburn scores 4 TDs in this game, shocking everyone. Bama does too and in the end, whoever wins it will be close.
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Posted:
#9
I'll pay to see Auburn 'consistently' throw the ball and move the chains. Huge IF against a bama team that will be ready for them and is used to this kind of stage (this is new for Auburn). Bama will have an answer for their running attack and will score plenty against the Auburn defense (run / pass pick your poison).
Auburn backers better just pray they don't get down a couple TD's early.
Auburn backers better just pray they don't get down a couple TD's early.
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Posted:
#10
Quote Originally Posted by gwjtf:
Everybody thinks Auburn can't pass the ball when, as CGM has stated repeatedly, they can and do, they just prefer to run until it is stopped because running the ball, generally, is less risky than throwing it. No one has stopped their run game all year, so they haven't passed as much particularly in the latter part of the season - but that will change this week.
Everybody thinks Auburn can't pass the ball when, as CGM has stated repeatedly, they can and do, they just prefer to run until it is stopped because running the ball, generally, is less risky than throwing it. No one has stopped their run game all year, so they haven't passed as much particularly in the latter part of the season - but that will change this week.
They have shown they can pass the ball - and I'm not talking about the Georgia game with the miracle catch to win, but all year players like Sammie Coates (who led the nation in yards per catch for most of the season), Ricardo Louis, Cory Grant, C.J. Uzomah, all these guys can catch the ball and Marshall has done an excellent job taking what the defense gives and distributing it to all of them.
This is why I like Auburn to keep this game competitive. They will distribute the ball to the open man on easy routes - slants, screens, digs, etc., and then have success running the ball on the read option, whether it's Marshall or Tre or Artis-Payne or Corey Adams. They'll also take shots over the top, which they have shown they can convert as well. Auburn has a lot of guys that can score at any time and Alabama won't be able to contain all of them, all game long. Auburn scores 4 TDs in this game, shocking everyone. Bama does too and in the end, whoever wins it will be close.
Everyone should simply disregard everything you said, most of it is opinion and not facts.
Fact: Marshall is a bad passer.
Stop letting emotions get in the way. A team facing Bama who averages less than 20 pass attempts per game has absolutely no shot to beat them. There's a reason they don't throw the ball much, and even when they do, good things don't happen often.
Another important point people have taken into considering is, if Auburns run game struggles, then you can basically throw the play action pass out the window.
This game has virtually no chance to be competitive.
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Posted:
#15
Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:
Everyone should simply disregard everything you said, most of it is opinion and not facts.
Fact: Marshall is a bad passer.
Stop letting emotions get in the way. A team facing Bama who averages less than 20 pass attempts per game has absolutely no shot to beat them. There's a reason they don't throw the ball much, and even when they do, good things don't happen often.
Another important point people have taken into considering is, if Auburns run game struggles, then you can basically throw the play action pass out the window.
This game has virtually no chance to be competitive.
Virtually no chance to be competitive? Really? That is why we have a 10 point line instead of a 28 point line, correct? Vegas makes a competitive line in error because Spartacus10 knows the relative abilities of the teams better than the oddsmakers do. I see.
I played organized football for 9 years including at the D1 level as a scholarship athlete - I'm fairly certain I know the game well; and I am anything but an Auburn homie. While I like a 15 point line a lot more, 10/10.5 is competitive and, so will this game be. Rivalry game, at J-H, multiple options for the offense out of the same look; two weeks for the team to heal & Malzahn to prepare. Damned straight this game will be competitive; I'll revisit this thread after teh game and see if you return to eat a little crow ....
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Posted:
#17
Quote Originally Posted by gwjtf:
Virtually no chance to be competitive? Really? That is why we have a 10 point line instead of a 28 point line, correct? Vegas makes a competitive line in error because Spartacus10 knows the relative abilities of the teams better than the oddsmakers do. I see.
I played organized football for 9 years including at the D1 level as a scholarship athlete - I'm fairly certain I know the game well; and I am anything but an Auburn homie. While I like a 15 point line a lot more, 10/10.5 is competitive and, so will this game be. Rivalry game, at J-H, multiple options for the offense out of the same look; two weeks for the team to heal & Malzahn to prepare. Damned straight this game will be competitive; I'll revisit this thread after teh game and see if you return to eat a little crow ....
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You're referring to the line, but that just shows you don't understand how lines are made.
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Posted:
#19
Onthemound is a butthurt LSU coonazz fan. He hates Bama because Saban left LSU and went to the NFL, then came to Bama to dominate the SEC. He sees what "could've been" at LSU if Saban had stayed. To make it even worse, Bama ruins LSU's perfect season by embarrassing them in the NCG in 2011, then again with the "screen pass" in 2012. Oh, then again this year by "imposing thy Bama will" on LSU and sacking Mett 10 times in a row. He fails to see the "process" that Saban has laid out at Bama and his hatred will not / can not let him appreciate how remarkable it all is. I didn't even wanna mention that Saban is killing Lester in his own state in recruiting.. Bama is cherry picking the top recruits at will outta La... So yes, I can understand this dude anger toward Bama. But to be idiotic enough to think Bama can't cover the pass, or Bama holds on every play, well that's comical and shows his juvenile idiotic hatred and JEALOUSY...
Onthemound,, I would like to make a
Onthemound,, I would like to make a
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Posted:
#21
Quote Originally Posted by chad77:
Sorry, hit the button to soon lol...
I would like to make a personal wager with you. I will take the -10.5 and you can take the other side. The loser has to leave this site for ever. No questions, no comments, NO CRAZY YELLING IN ALL CAPS, and no good byes. Just gone!! We got a deal ?
Sorry, hit the button to soon lol...
I would like to make a personal wager with you. I will take the -10.5 and you can take the other side. The loser has to leave this site for ever. No questions, no comments, NO CRAZY YELLING IN ALL CAPS, and no good byes. Just gone!! We got a deal ?
Pointless. Onthemound is one of the biggest trolls I've seen. He'll simply make a new account and return to plaguing the forum with his nonsensical bullsh*t.
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Posted:
#22
Shut the FU CK UP Chad77
You CLUELESS MORON!!
Facts are FACTS You MORON!!
SABAN is an EGOTISTICAL RUNT!! Would never want him as a Coach!! He has gotten lucky with all the above I mentioned and more!!! He isnt that good of a coach!! The weakest part of his teams(notice I said teams for years!!!) have been his so called SPECIALTY!!
So keep running your mouth clueless moron!!!
I know what I am talking about!! You couldnt hold my JOCK playing or capping any SPORT!!!
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Posted:
#25
Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:
You're referring to the line, but that just shows you don't understand how lines are made.
Spartacus -
Your astounding football intellect continues to move us.
I am well familiar with what sets a line and, more importantly, what MOVES it. It’s one of the reasons I would have preferred to bet the game at -15/15.5 rather than 10/10.5, and why such esteemed cappers on this site as WahooS and JDN will not touch the game at 10/10.5 - because it is a very fair line. A hell of a lot more fair than -28 or such to indicate, as you errantly suggest, a game where Auburn has virtually no chance to be competitive. Utter Bullshit, and I will explain why.
Since you seem to like facts so much yet offer absolutely none but an opinion ‘Marshall is a bad passer’ that you mislabel as ‘fact’; on the year Bama has thrown for 2326 yards and rushed for 2566 yards for total of 4892 yards. Excellent balance. But Auburn has thrown for 1976 yards, with 3523 rushing yards for total of 5499 yards in the same number of games and a harder SOS. Auburn’s 1976 passing yards is only 350 yards lower than Alabama on the season, or about 32 fewer yards passing per game on average, but Auburn’s rushing stats are 1000 yards greater on the season, or about 90 yards per game on average. Indeed, Auburn is the no. 1 rushing team in the conference by a significant margin so the fact they are merely 32 yards per game lower than the Tide passing the ball is not that surprising. Yet you insist Marshall is a ‘bad passer.’ You provide no facts to back that up; just your opinion that you call ‘fact.’ Well, I call bullshit on your opinion because that’s what it is.
Nick Marshall, competing in 10 games (he sat out 1 game to minor injury as a precautionary measure) is averaging 153 yds per game throwing the ball, in addition to running for 82 yards per game for total offense of 235 yards per game. A.J. McCarron, by contrast, is throwing for 218 yards per game, but rushing for .45 YARD per game, or 218 total yards per game. McCarron throws for 65 more yards per game, but Marshall runs for 82 more yards per game and Marshall leads McCarron in total yards per game. Moreover, Marshall has 9 rushing TDs to McCarron’s 0; McCarron has 23 passing TDs to Marshall’s 9. So McCarron has accounted for 23 total TDs to Marshall’s 18; both QBs have exactly 5 INTs each. Yet again, Marshall has done this against tougher competition/higher SOS – ranked before season by Phil Steele at #18 vs #40 for Bama; and ranked through Nov. 23 by Sagarin @ # 39 Auburn vs #55 Bama.
In addition, Marshall only started playing this offense in August of this year, having not participated in Spring ball, and has steadily and significantly improved his play throughout the season as he has gotten more comfortable with the reads and the offense generally – something not always easily discernable by stats. Even so, by the numbers against a tougher schedule, Auburn throws the ball nearly as well as Bama (32 yards per game is not significantly consequential), runs it better than Bama by the numbers, but somehow according to you, while providing little or no ‘facts’ to back it up, at home in a rivalry game off 2 weeks rest, Auburn which has improved during the year as much or more than any other team in CFB, playing with as much confidence as any team in the country, has virtually no chance to be competitive.
And as for Bama’s vaunted defense, averaging only 9.3 points allowed per game, that stat is without question padded by shutouts or very few points allowed to teams like Chattanooga, Georgia State, Kentucky, etc. When Bama faces a legitimate dual threat QB (Manziel) that can hurt you with his arm or his feet and surrounded by playmakers, they surrender 42 points. They are about to be tested by another such athletic, dual threat QB in Nick Marshall, surrounded by a greater number of even better playmakers than Manziel has at his disposal.
Perhaps in your world Spartacus this team has no chance to be competitive -- perhaps also in your world the sky is green, the ocean is red, and unicorns prance about the field of play with fairies and mermaids, I don’t know. But in the real world of football, played by real human beings, AND supported by considerable buttressing facts, they most certainly can.
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