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    2018 Bowl Under system... 37 - 3 in 2017... Lets Do it Again!

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    HarryKnutsak
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 4:48 PM ET #526

    Quote Originally Posted by JBone_Texas:

    Here is a quick run down:

    17 Bowls played coming into today.  1H Unders are 8-8-1 (note in first 7 games it was 2-5, it has picked up steam though going 6-3-1 in last 10 and 4-1 in last 5).

    Of the 8 games that lost the 1H Under, the 2H Unders are 6-2.  One of those losses was MTSU/Ark St, some people got the 1H line at 31.5 (it dropped to 30.5, some may have got it at 31) which was a winner as it landed 31.  The other loss in the 2H was the Army/SDSU game, which was a 2H Under 24.5 and it was sitting at 21 pts with under a minute left Army with a 3rd and 17 or something with no timeouts and they converted and then got the TD, the 2 pt conversion, and finally a pick 6.

    But going with Roggs listed lines the math works out to.

    1H 8 wins x 1.0 units - 1H 8 losses x 1.1 Units = -0.8 units  (1 push = refund)

    2H (6 wins x 2.0 units) - 2H (2 losses x 2.2 Units) = + 7.6 units

    Total:  + 6.8 units

    That is assuming you bet all of them and kept good money management and also assuming you didn't try and get juice back on 1H losses.  Check the math but I believe that is pretty accurate.

    Also if someone has all the 2H lines (even the ones not played with the system) I can look at the some general trends there.

    Are you counting this as the push? For the posted lines in the thread, Roggs had 30.5 which is a loss, and the second half was a loss as well, which would put the official record at +3.5 units
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBone_Texas:

    Here is a quick run down:

    17 Bowls played coming into today.  1H Unders are 8-8-1 (note in first 7 games it was 2-5, it has picked up steam though going 6-3-1 in last 10 and 4-1 in last 5).

    Of the 8 games that lost the 1H Under, the 2H Unders are 6-2.  One of those losses was MTSU/Ark St, some people got the 1H line at 31.5 (it dropped to 30.5, some may have got it at 31) which was a winner as it landed 31.  The other loss in the 2H was the Army/SDSU game, which was a 2H Under 24.5 and it was sitting at 21 pts with under a minute left Army with a 3rd and 17 or something with no timeouts and they converted and then got the TD, the 2 pt conversion, and finally a pick 6.

    But going with Roggs listed lines the math works out to.

    1H 8 wins x 1.0 units - 1H 8 losses x 1.1 Units = -0.8 units  (1 push = refund)

    2H (6 wins x 2.0 units) - 2H (2 losses x 2.2 Units) = + 7.6 units

    Total:  + 6.8 units

    That is assuming you bet all of them and kept good money management and also assuming you didn't try and get juice back on 1H losses.  Check the math but I believe that is pretty accurate.

    Also if someone has all the 2H lines (even the ones not played with the system) I can look at the some general trends there.

    Are you counting this as the push? For the posted lines in the thread, Roggs had 30.5 which is a loss, and the second half was a loss as well, which would put the official record at +3.5 units
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 4:55 PM ET #527

    Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime:

    You mean like the three missed extra points? The only issue in this one is the So Miss coach trying to get back in the game.


    The pass interference call, missed lost yard tackles turned into plus yardage, etc.
    Anyways, took the L. On to the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime:

    You mean like the three missed extra points? The only issue in this one is the So Miss coach trying to get back in the game.


    The pass interference call, missed lost yard tackles turned into plus yardage, etc.
    Anyways, took the L. On to the next.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 4:57 PM ET #528

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:


    I see that Plagiarism is alive and well in Covers..

    Lol if u sent the fonts. Yes I did. I copied and repasted my own reply. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:


    I see that Plagiarism is alive and well in Covers..

    Lol if u sent the fonts. Yes I did. I copied and repasted my own reply. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 4:59 PM ET #529

    Damn auto correct. I meant to say. If you meant the fonts. Lol
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    Damn auto correct. I meant to say. If you meant the fonts. Lol
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 4:59 PM ET #530

    If you are bitchin' and/or stressin'............Chances are, you are NOT betting 2% of your BR (per unit) as Roggs suggested.
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    If you are bitchin' and/or stressin'............Chances are, you are NOT betting 2% of your BR (per unit) as Roggs suggested.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 5:02 PM ET #531

    Just a few notes on the Tex/Mizzou game.

    There are a rash of players not playing for Texas, sometimes we don't always know the significance so I'll try to enlighten you.  Texas offense is not very good to begin with but they will be missing 2 of 3 RBs (wCarter suspended and Warren III transfering, Daniel Young lead the RBs with 325 yards, Warren was 2nd with 314 and also led RBs with 6 TDs, and Toneil Carter had 252 yrd rushing and 3 TDs).  The rushing yard leader (364) on the team is Sam Ehlinger...QB.  He isn't starting this one, Shane Buechele is.  He is the better passer but he will be missing leading WR Lil' Jordan Humphrey who had 38 catches for 439 yards.  Also missing both TEs (not used much in the passing game) Cade Brewer and Garrett Gray as well as their best OL Connor Williams.  They do get OL Elijah Rodriquez back but the line was not very good and Williams is likley a 1st round draft pick.

    Rather than list all the defensive players, I'll just say 3 of the top 4 leading tacklers including the defensive team leader LB Malik Jefferson are out and all told the defenders not playing represent between 27 to 53% of the teams tackles, tackles for loss, sacks, INTs, and passes defended.  FYI.

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    Just a few notes on the Tex/Mizzou game.

    There are a rash of players not playing for Texas, sometimes we don't always know the significance so I'll try to enlighten you.  Texas offense is not very good to begin with but they will be missing 2 of 3 RBs (wCarter suspended and Warren III transfering, Daniel Young lead the RBs with 325 yards, Warren was 2nd with 314 and also led RBs with 6 TDs, and Toneil Carter had 252 yrd rushing and 3 TDs).  The rushing yard leader (364) on the team is Sam Ehlinger...QB.  He isn't starting this one, Shane Buechele is.  He is the better passer but he will be missing leading WR Lil' Jordan Humphrey who had 38 catches for 439 yards.  Also missing both TEs (not used much in the passing game) Cade Brewer and Garrett Gray as well as their best OL Connor Williams.  They do get OL Elijah Rodriquez back but the line was not very good and Williams is likley a 1st round draft pick.

    Rather than list all the defensive players, I'll just say 3 of the top 4 leading tacklers including the defensive team leader LB Malik Jefferson are out and all told the defenders not playing represent between 27 to 53% of the teams tackles, tackles for loss, sacks, INTs, and passes defended.  FYI.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 5:03 PM ET #532

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryKnutsak:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by JBone_Texas: Here is a quick run down: 17 Bowls played coming into today.  1H Unders are 8-8-1 (note in first 7 games it was 2-5, it has picked up steam though going 6-3-1 in last 10 and 4-1 in last 5). Of the 8 games that lost the 1H Under, the 2H Unders are 6-2.  One of those losses was MTSU/Ark St, some people got the 1H line at 31.5 (it dropped to 30.5, some may have got it at 31) which was a winner as it landed 31.  The other loss in the 2H was the Army/SDSU game, which was a 2H Under 24.5 and it was sitting at 21 pts with under a minute left Army with a 3rd and 17 or something with no timeouts and they converted and then got the TD, the 2 pt conversion, and finally a pick 6. But going with Roggs listed lines the math works out to. 1H 8 wins x 1.0 units - 1H 8 losses x 1.1 Units = -0.8 units  (1 push = refund) 2H (6 wins x 2.0 units) - 2H (2 losses x 2.2 Units) = + 7.6 units Total:  + 6.8 units That is assuming you bet all of them and kept good money management and also assuming you didn't try and get juice back on 1H losses.  Check the math but I believe that is pretty accurate. Also if someone has all the 2H lines (even the ones not played with the system) I can look at the some general trends there. Are you counting this as the push? For the posted lines in the thread, Roggs had 30.5 which is a loss, and the second half was a loss as well, which would put the official record at +3.5 units

     

    No that is a loss.  The push was the 1H of the UAB/Ohio game at 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryKnutsak:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by JBone_Texas: Here is a quick run down: 17 Bowls played coming into today.  1H Unders are 8-8-1 (note in first 7 games it was 2-5, it has picked up steam though going 6-3-1 in last 10 and 4-1 in last 5). Of the 8 games that lost the 1H Under, the 2H Unders are 6-2.  One of those losses was MTSU/Ark St, some people got the 1H line at 31.5 (it dropped to 30.5, some may have got it at 31) which was a winner as it landed 31.  The other loss in the 2H was the Army/SDSU game, which was a 2H Under 24.5 and it was sitting at 21 pts with under a minute left Army with a 3rd and 17 or something with no timeouts and they converted and then got the TD, the 2 pt conversion, and finally a pick 6. But going with Roggs listed lines the math works out to. 1H 8 wins x 1.0 units - 1H 8 losses x 1.1 Units = -0.8 units  (1 push = refund) 2H (6 wins x 2.0 units) - 2H (2 losses x 2.2 Units) = + 7.6 units Total:  + 6.8 units That is assuming you bet all of them and kept good money management and also assuming you didn't try and get juice back on 1H losses.  Check the math but I believe that is pretty accurate. Also if someone has all the 2H lines (even the ones not played with the system) I can look at the some general trends there. Are you counting this as the push? For the posted lines in the thread, Roggs had 30.5 which is a loss, and the second half was a loss as well, which would put the official record at +3.5 units

     

    No that is a loss.  The push was the 1H of the UAB/Ohio game at 30.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 5:14 PM ET #533

    Posted a thread with Texas vs Mizzou intel.

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    Posted a thread with Texas vs Mizzou intel.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 5:16 PM ET #534

    Crap line just moved to 23 after I took 22.5. Ugh

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    Crap line just moved to 23 after I took 22.5. Ugh

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 5:18 PM ET #535

    15-3-1................Bonus LOL!     Purdue+3/BC+3/Texas+3.......5% each....................1% parlay
                   
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    15-3-1................Bonus LOL!     Purdue+3/BC+3/Texas+3.......5% each....................1% parlay
                   
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:05 PM ET #536

    F%%k!! That iowa td is not good. 

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    F%%k!! That iowa td is not good. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:12 PM ET #537

    that first half was comical... here comes the second close your eyes play of the day....  turnover.. unsportsmanlike penalty... a kick return... and a circus tipped td....  gotta love bowl season
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    that first half was comical... here comes the second close your eyes play of the day....  turnover.. unsportsmanlike penalty... a kick return... and a circus tipped td....  gotta love bowl season
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:13 PM ET #538

    Have any of these low 20 unders hit ?it seems like every one of them under 24 has gone over.

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    Have any of these low 20 unders hit ?it seems like every one of them under 24 has gone over.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:14 PM ET #539

    Roggs - difference is that neither of these teams are actually potent offensively like FSU was in the first game. 2h under will be fine unless it's crazy low. Plus the field is getting slicker and harder. It's already causing issues and will just get worse.

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    Roggs - difference is that neither of these teams are actually potent offensively like FSU was in the first game. 2h under will be fine unless it's crazy low. Plus the field is getting slicker and harder. It's already causing issues and will just get worse.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:14 PM ET #540

    Damn my statement about the game total in the 40s going over 1st half still holds true. I hope this trend bust soon.
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    Damn my statement about the game total in the 40s going over 1st half still holds true. I hope this trend bust soon.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:16 PM ET #541

    Be strong people. garbage happens. This is the life of a gambler.

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    Be strong people. garbage happens. This is the life of a gambler.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:20 PM ET #542

    Quote Originally Posted by Guavajelly:

    Have any of these low 20 unders hit ?it seems like every one of them under 24 has gone over.


    i know ga state was a winner off top of head
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guavajelly:

    Have any of these low 20 unders hit ?it seems like every one of them under 24 has gone over.


    i know ga state was a winner off top of head
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeBaylor:

    Roggs - difference is that neither of these teams are actually potent offensively like FSU was in the first game. 2h under will be fine unless it's crazy low. Plus the field is getting slicker and harder. It's already causing issues and will just get worse.


    prepare yourself this 2nd half total is going to be low... iowa is averaging 1.7 yards per play... absolutely attrocious... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeBaylor:

    Roggs - difference is that neither of these teams are actually potent offensively like FSU was in the first game. 2h under will be fine unless it's crazy low. Plus the field is getting slicker and harder. It's already causing issues and will just get worse.


    prepare yourself this 2nd half total is going to be low... iowa is averaging 1.7 yards per play... absolutely attrocious... 
     
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    You people are horrible 
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    Guys heres a heads up just like fla st game... this total is going to open and should drop fast... if it is 23 or higher i dont care what number it is lock it in as fast as you can... if its 21.5 lock asap... I can not even post fast enough sometimes... go back and read my long write up -this is a game your going to need to act fast
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    Guys heres a heads up just like fla st game... this total is going to open and should drop fast... if it is 23 or higher i dont care what number it is lock it in as fast as you can... if its 21.5 lock asap... I can not even post fast enough sometimes... go back and read my long write up -this is a game your going to need to act fast
     
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    I would be shocked if this line opens higher than 21.5
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    I would be shocked if this line opens higher than 21.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2017 - 6:46 PM ET #547

    Quote Originally Posted by Roggs05:

    I would be shocked if this line opens higher than 21.5

     

    That's it.

    Geez .... idk about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggs05:

    I would be shocked if this line opens higher than 21.5

     

    That's it.

    Geez .... idk about that.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggs05:

    I would be shocked if this line opens higher than 21.5

     there it is... under 21.5 2xs... more concerned about the field conditions right now but gonna stick with it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggs05:

    I would be shocked if this line opens higher than 21.5

     there it is... under 21.5 2xs... more concerned about the field conditions right now but gonna stick with it...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggs05:


     there it is... under 21.5 2xs... more concerned about the field conditions right now but gonna stick with it...

    Iowa looked lacking to close the half. BC's defense seemed to get the hang of things, too.

    What's up with the field conditions? It just looks cold AF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggs05:


     there it is... under 21.5 2xs... more concerned about the field conditions right now but gonna stick with it...

    Iowa looked lacking to close the half. BC's defense seemed to get the hang of things, too.

    What's up with the field conditions? It just looks cold AF.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thekoreanmang:


    Iowa looked lacking to close the half. BC's defense seemed to get the hang of things, too.

    What's up with the field conditions? It just looks cold AF.

    the field is frozen... defenders slipping and can not plant on cuts... announcers been talking about it for last 90 minutes... closing our eyes for all special teams plays...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thekoreanmang:


    Iowa looked lacking to close the half. BC's defense seemed to get the hang of things, too.

    What's up with the field conditions? It just looks cold AF.

    the field is frozen... defenders slipping and can not plant on cuts... announcers been talking about it for last 90 minutes... closing our eyes for all special teams plays...
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