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    YALE vs. PRINCETON: An angle so rare that is can only happen ONCE and you will never see it again!!!

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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:22 AM ET #26

    .....I'm on the other side of Yale.....I think Princeton had lots of "pressure" lifted off their shoulders yesterday by beating the underdog Penn in their own house....Princeton is 2 notches above the rest of the Ivy league this season (won't be like that next season as Harvard, Brown and Cornell will be very much in the mix) and think they roll to a double digit win today.....anything can happen in tournament play though....love all the time and angles that you put into each and every write-up.....
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    .....I'm on the other side of Yale.....I think Princeton had lots of "pressure" lifted off their shoulders yesterday by beating the underdog Penn in their own house....Princeton is 2 notches above the rest of the Ivy league this season (won't be like that next season as Harvard, Brown and Cornell will be very much in the mix) and think they roll to a double digit win today.....anything can happen in tournament play though....love all the time and angles that you put into each and every write-up.....
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:34 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    That was hardly an impressive win yesterday by Cincy...   UConn was in foul trouble from the tip.   Cincy got 47% of their points from the FT line (38-46) and it was still a 2 possession game late.  Had they been closer to their season average FT% of 68% (255th in the country) they probably lose the game SU.  Cincy's win over UConn on the road last week was the impressive win, not yesterdays game.   

    On the SMU side, UCF is one of the top defensive teams in the country and hadn't allowed an opponent to reach 70 points since February 1st.     

    I think it will be a great game with some chippy play


    Ok folks.

    Which is more impressive:

    Beating a team which is perennially in the tournament, that is a more than well-seasoned tournament team (had one of the great runs with Kemba Walker), different players and some different coaches yes, but the spirit and legacy of their tournament play and experience (which carries over for some players) is not lost on these players, +

    UConn is playing a default home game because they put the tourney in Connecticut (I wonder why? Maybe because the divisions best tournament team in terms of history would have a better shot?) +

    In a game UConn didn't lead for a single SECOND +

    UConn just showed the power of the conference throwing it a bone by knocking off a flawed but better Houston team the game before (handily);

    And compare this to BWS's more impressive win, per his opinion:

    They beat UCF, a top defensive team in the country. And that's about t.

    I wonder which is better?

    I don't normally quote AAC stats like 'best defense' in the country because you are beating up TOTAL CRAP in Tulane and East Carolina and South Florida (2 of the worst 3 teams in the nation from a recognizable conference and USF may be the worst at this point) and Temple who fell off drastically, and Tulsa, another pushover on many nights.

    That is why I focused on the out of conference schedule in the OP while BWS hoots and hollers about the in-conference 'best defense', and UCF feasted off these bottom-feeders.

    UCF was JUST HAPPY TO BE THERE, having gotten knocked off by Tulane last year in an woefully embarrassing first round loss.

    Now who had the more impressive win yesterday?

    You can toot the SMU horn as I know you will continue to but I'll let others decide for themselves.


    Thanks to all the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    That was hardly an impressive win yesterday by Cincy...   UConn was in foul trouble from the tip.   Cincy got 47% of their points from the FT line (38-46) and it was still a 2 possession game late.  Had they been closer to their season average FT% of 68% (255th in the country) they probably lose the game SU.  Cincy's win over UConn on the road last week was the impressive win, not yesterdays game.   

    On the SMU side, UCF is one of the top defensive teams in the country and hadn't allowed an opponent to reach 70 points since February 1st.     

    I think it will be a great game with some chippy play


    Ok folks.

    Which is more impressive:

    Beating a team which is perennially in the tournament, that is a more than well-seasoned tournament team (had one of the great runs with Kemba Walker), different players and some different coaches yes, but the spirit and legacy of their tournament play and experience (which carries over for some players) is not lost on these players, +

    UConn is playing a default home game because they put the tourney in Connecticut (I wonder why? Maybe because the divisions best tournament team in terms of history would have a better shot?) +

    In a game UConn didn't lead for a single SECOND +

    UConn just showed the power of the conference throwing it a bone by knocking off a flawed but better Houston team the game before (handily);

    And compare this to BWS's more impressive win, per his opinion:

    They beat UCF, a top defensive team in the country. And that's about t.

    I wonder which is better?

    I don't normally quote AAC stats like 'best defense' in the country because you are beating up TOTAL CRAP in Tulane and East Carolina and South Florida (2 of the worst 3 teams in the nation from a recognizable conference and USF may be the worst at this point) and Temple who fell off drastically, and Tulsa, another pushover on many nights.

    That is why I focused on the out of conference schedule in the OP while BWS hoots and hollers about the in-conference 'best defense', and UCF feasted off these bottom-feeders.

    UCF was JUST HAPPY TO BE THERE, having gotten knocked off by Tulane last year in an woefully embarrassing first round loss.

    Now who had the more impressive win yesterday?

    You can toot the SMU horn as I know you will continue to but I'll let others decide for themselves.


    Thanks to all the above.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:36 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by IAdecimal5:

    .....I'm on the other side of Yale.....I think Princeton had lots of "pressure" lifted off their shoulders yesterday by beating the underdog Penn in their own house....Princeton is 2 notches above the rest of the Ivy league this season (won't be like that next season as Harvard, Brown and Cornell will be very much in the mix) and think they roll to a double digit win today.....anything can happen in tournament play though....love all the time and angles that you put into each and every write-up.....


    That is a legitimate take. I did consider that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAdecimal5:

    .....I'm on the other side of Yale.....I think Princeton had lots of "pressure" lifted off their shoulders yesterday by beating the underdog Penn in their own house....Princeton is 2 notches above the rest of the Ivy league this season (won't be like that next season as Harvard, Brown and Cornell will be very much in the mix) and think they roll to a double digit win today.....anything can happen in tournament play though....love all the time and angles that you put into each and every write-up.....


    That is a legitimate take. I did consider that.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:36 AM ET #29

    [Quote: Originally Posted by scalabrine]

    2017 Record: 6-10

    Bad record but 3 in a row hit so far and my goal is to somehow win another 4 in a row. Let's try it together.

    This game is at the Palisades in Pennsylvania and will be played at 12pm EST.

    What is the angle? It is this:

    1. "The Ivy League has NEVER had a conference tournament before this year, therefore, players and coaches are unprepared for it."

    Coaches are unprepared for it? Amaker and Donahue have coached in these events at their prior schools. And those were the two who got knocked out yesterday. 

    Nice try though.


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    [Quote: Originally Posted by scalabrine]

    2017 Record: 6-10

    Bad record but 3 in a row hit so far and my goal is to somehow win another 4 in a row. Let's try it together.

    This game is at the Palisades in Pennsylvania and will be played at 12pm EST.

    What is the angle? It is this:

    1. "The Ivy League has NEVER had a conference tournament before this year, therefore, players and coaches are unprepared for it."

    Coaches are unprepared for it? Amaker and Donahue have coached in these events at their prior schools. And those were the two who got knocked out yesterday. 

    Nice try though.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:41 AM ET #30

    Once again scal, I follow you often... not so much of late cause I'm much better with college basketball than football.. Love your starting to get a streak going in CB...that being said I'm on the other side.. Princeton is much more experienced team 4 seniors a couple good Soph.. there a well oiled machine who's played together for years. A team I believe you can rely on. Consistent.. yeah, yeah, last night. It happens.


    Yale has lost everybody from a really good team from last year that played duke in a good game in the rd of 32.. Mason, Sears, Sherrod, Montage all gone.. I will say that there senior point guard did not play in the first game they played this year, that does scare me a little. Yale starts like 2 freshman and a couple sophmores.. Getting having Dallier running point should help..

     personally I'm playing Princeton 1H.. 11-5 against the spread as a fav..   I just think 7 for game might be too many points in a spot like this especially with the PG being a difference from game one. Princeton is usually a good first half team... also think this is going to be a more up and down game than people think. 

    Also probably going to do the same thing with the Cincy pick for a lot of the same reasons!! Hah! It's just so hard to bet against cincy.. But again SMU is one of those teams you can trust and is a covering machine.. 

    Should be fun games, love this time of year and I hope you keep 
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    Once again scal, I follow you often... not so much of late cause I'm much better with college basketball than football.. Love your starting to get a streak going in CB...that being said I'm on the other side.. Princeton is much more experienced team 4 seniors a couple good Soph.. there a well oiled machine who's played together for years. A team I believe you can rely on. Consistent.. yeah, yeah, last night. It happens.


    Yale has lost everybody from a really good team from last year that played duke in a good game in the rd of 32.. Mason, Sears, Sherrod, Montage all gone.. I will say that there senior point guard did not play in the first game they played this year, that does scare me a little. Yale starts like 2 freshman and a couple sophmores.. Getting having Dallier running point should help..

     personally I'm playing Princeton 1H.. 11-5 against the spread as a fav..   I just think 7 for game might be too many points in a spot like this especially with the PG being a difference from game one. Princeton is usually a good first half team... also think this is going to be a more up and down game than people think. 

    Also probably going to do the same thing with the Cincy pick for a lot of the same reasons!! Hah! It's just so hard to bet against cincy.. But again SMU is one of those teams you can trust and is a covering machine.. 

    Should be fun games, love this time of year and I hope you keep 
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:49 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by GnilretsNedyah:

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    2017 Record: 6-10

    Bad record but 3 in a row hit so far and my goal is to somehow win another 4 in a row. Let's try it together.

    This game is at the Palisades in Pennsylvania and will be played at 12pm EST.

    What is the angle? It is this:

    1. "The Ivy League has NEVER had a conference tournament before this year, therefore, players and coaches are unprepared for it."

    Coaches are unprepared for it? Amaker and Donahue have coached in these events at their prior schools. And those were the two who got knocked out yesterday. 

    Nice try though.


    Nice try?  Having ANY experience at prior and having annual experience are two different things all in a conference that has never had a conference tournament. Tough to turn it around after all those years and get these kids motivated for a win ASAP. There are many other angles in the OP as I've said a billion times.


    Addicted - We don't have to win. All that you said doesn't necessarily justify the spread of 7. That is the crux of this. I'm looking for a close game. That's about it and 7 is a nice number to have. I'd like 10-11 but I can't get it so I'll take the 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnilretsNedyah:

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    2017 Record: 6-10

    Bad record but 3 in a row hit so far and my goal is to somehow win another 4 in a row. Let's try it together.

    This game is at the Palisades in Pennsylvania and will be played at 12pm EST.

    What is the angle? It is this:

    1. "The Ivy League has NEVER had a conference tournament before this year, therefore, players and coaches are unprepared for it."

    Coaches are unprepared for it? Amaker and Donahue have coached in these events at their prior schools. And those were the two who got knocked out yesterday. 

    Nice try though.


    Nice try?  Having ANY experience at prior and having annual experience are two different things all in a conference that has never had a conference tournament. Tough to turn it around after all those years and get these kids motivated for a win ASAP. There are many other angles in the OP as I've said a billion times.


    Addicted - We don't have to win. All that you said doesn't necessarily justify the spread of 7. That is the crux of this. I'm looking for a close game. That's about it and 7 is a nice number to have. I'd like 10-11 but I can't get it so I'll take the 7.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:57 AM ET #32

    Good luck Scal 
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 11:59 AM ET #33

    Man SMU is better I can't back cinci over them. Mustangs ALL DAY!
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    Man SMU is better I can't back cinci over them. Mustangs ALL DAY!
     
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    you guy's are listening to a guy that does not even know what time the Yale/Princeton game starts 
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    you guy's are listening to a guy that does not even know what time the Yale/Princeton game starts 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Ok folks.

    Which is more impressive:

    Beating a team which is perennially in the tournament, that is a more than well-seasoned tournament team (had one of the great runs with Kemba Walker), different players and some different coaches yes, but the spirit and legacy of their tournament play and experience (which carries over for some players) is not lost on these players, +

    UConn is playing a default home game because they put the tourney in Connecticut (I wonder why? Maybe because the divisions best tournament team in terms of history would have a better shot?) +

    In a game UConn didn't lead for a single SECOND +

    UConn just showed the power of the conference throwing it a bone by knocking off a flawed but better Houston team the game before (handily);

    And compare this to BWS's more impressive win, per his opinion:

    They beat UCF, a top defensive team in the country. And that's about t.

    I wonder which is better?

    I don't normally quote AAC stats like 'best defense' in the country because you are beating up TOTAL CRAP in Tulane and East Carolina and South Florida (2 of the worst 3 teams in the nation from a recognizable conference and USF may be the worst at this point) and Temple who fell off drastically, and Tulsa, another pushover on many nights.

    That is why I focused on the out of conference schedule in the OP while BWS hoots and hollers about the in-conference 'best defense', and UCF feasted off these bottom-feeders.

    UCF was JUST HAPPY TO BE THERE, having gotten knocked off by Tulane last year in an woefully embarrassing first round loss.

    Now who had the more impressive win yesterday?

    You can toot the SMU horn as I know you will continue to but I'll let others decide for themselves.


    Thanks to all the above.


    Not once did I say anything where I'm on SMU...  quit putting words in peoples mouth to justify your misguided angles.  

    I'm not 'hooting and hollering'....  I watched both games, both teams all year...    Mick Cronin was disgusted with his teams effort yesterday.  Oh but UConn's legacy and spirit were in play!   Just like Indiana's spirit and legacy against Northwestern, right?   

    BTW, UCF held your impressive Bearcats to 109 total points in 2 games this year... 49 in a win the last game just 2 weeks ago in this stretch where UCF was playing their best ball of the season.   

    FYI... out of conference rankings on Kenpom..  Cincy #164, SMU # 204 including Pitt, Michigan, USC, Boise and TCU.   Not much difference.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Ok folks.

    Which is more impressive:

    Beating a team which is perennially in the tournament, that is a more than well-seasoned tournament team (had one of the great runs with Kemba Walker), different players and some different coaches yes, but the spirit and legacy of their tournament play and experience (which carries over for some players) is not lost on these players, +

    UConn is playing a default home game because they put the tourney in Connecticut (I wonder why? Maybe because the divisions best tournament team in terms of history would have a better shot?) +

    In a game UConn didn't lead for a single SECOND +

    UConn just showed the power of the conference throwing it a bone by knocking off a flawed but better Houston team the game before (handily);

    And compare this to BWS's more impressive win, per his opinion:

    They beat UCF, a top defensive team in the country. And that's about t.

    I wonder which is better?

    I don't normally quote AAC stats like 'best defense' in the country because you are beating up TOTAL CRAP in Tulane and East Carolina and South Florida (2 of the worst 3 teams in the nation from a recognizable conference and USF may be the worst at this point) and Temple who fell off drastically, and Tulsa, another pushover on many nights.

    That is why I focused on the out of conference schedule in the OP while BWS hoots and hollers about the in-conference 'best defense', and UCF feasted off these bottom-feeders.

    UCF was JUST HAPPY TO BE THERE, having gotten knocked off by Tulane last year in an woefully embarrassing first round loss.

    Now who had the more impressive win yesterday?

    You can toot the SMU horn as I know you will continue to but I'll let others decide for themselves.


    Thanks to all the above.


    Not once did I say anything where I'm on SMU...  quit putting words in peoples mouth to justify your misguided angles.  

    I'm not 'hooting and hollering'....  I watched both games, both teams all year...    Mick Cronin was disgusted with his teams effort yesterday.  Oh but UConn's legacy and spirit were in play!   Just like Indiana's spirit and legacy against Northwestern, right?   

    BTW, UCF held your impressive Bearcats to 109 total points in 2 games this year... 49 in a win the last game just 2 weeks ago in this stretch where UCF was playing their best ball of the season.   

    FYI... out of conference rankings on Kenpom..  Cincy #164, SMU # 204 including Pitt, Michigan, USC, Boise and TCU.   Not much difference.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 12:22 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by hradekbr:

    Citing RPI .... 




    yes, in case you don't know what it is, is still widely used to judge overall ranking of basketball teams.



    When the selection committee makes an argument for or against a team's seeding and cites how many top 50 wins or top 100 wins a team has where do you think the 50 and 100 come from ?


    Oh and speaking of top 50 wins SMU only has 1 while Cincinnatti has 3 with the same # of losses on the year....and that only win for MSU was to Cincy in a home game


    Not only that the Sos 81 for Cincy is and 113 for SMU.

    So here is some valuable info that's being cited. What value would you like to cite besides a pointing finger?

    Seen you post before and never seen a  god damn thing you have ever posted of any substance
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    Quote Originally Posted by hradekbr:

    Citing RPI .... 




    yes, in case you don't know what it is, is still widely used to judge overall ranking of basketball teams.



    When the selection committee makes an argument for or against a team's seeding and cites how many top 50 wins or top 100 wins a team has where do you think the 50 and 100 come from ?


    Oh and speaking of top 50 wins SMU only has 1 while Cincinnatti has 3 with the same # of losses on the year....and that only win for MSU was to Cincy in a home game


    Not only that the Sos 81 for Cincy is and 113 for SMU.

    So here is some valuable info that's being cited. What value would you like to cite besides a pointing finger?

    Seen you post before and never seen a  god damn thing you have ever posted of any substance
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 12:23 PM ET #37

    Be careful with the axe Eugene.
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 12:35 PM ET #38

    BWS, will you ever learn with this guy? He always twist everything around to fit his views. 
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    BWS, will you ever learn with this guy? He always twist everything around to fit his views. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 1:18 PM ET #39

    looks like triple sweep ATS year for princeton

    50%  ft shooting yale

    cant defend 3    yale

    yikes

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    looks like triple sweep ATS year for princeton

    50%  ft shooting yale

    cant defend 3    yale

    yikes

     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 1:31 PM ET #40

    nice defense
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    nice defense
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 1:45 PM ET #41

    great ft shooting
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 1:47 PM ET #42

    nice wide open 3
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 1:54 PM ET #43

    This ucf team that isn't too great scal did just lose to ucf don't forget...tackp frustrated Cincy all game 
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    This ucf team that isn't too great scal did just lose to ucf don't forget...tackp frustrated Cincy all game 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 1:57 PM ET #44

    Princeton let them hang around for a half for ya, put the petal to the metal 2h. 
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    Princeton let them hang around for a half for ya, put the petal to the metal 2h. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 1:59 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by gcwrestling08:

    CRIIIIIIINGEEEEEEEE. I am cringing SOOOOOOO hard. Ughhhhhhhh


    Will you shut the fu** up. No one cares or even responds to you. Are you looking for laughing head emoticons? You'll get none. I've told you thing before: go seek out a dating life instead of spending your time on Covers writing "Criiiiiiiiinge" like a 17 year old in everyone's thread.



    This was the feared second half scenario and I paid the price for posting this. Exactly what you don't want to happen with bets like this. It happened.


    Looking for a split (unacceptable at this record) and all I have to do is win outright against a team on a 15 game win streak. Just another walk in the park pick.
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    CRIIIIIIINGEEEEEEEE. I am cringing SOOOOOOO hard. Ughhhhhhhh


    Will you shut the fu** up. No one cares or even responds to you. Are you looking for laughing head emoticons? You'll get none. I've told you thing before: go seek out a dating life instead of spending your time on Covers writing "Criiiiiiiiinge" like a 17 year old in everyone's thread.



    This was the feared second half scenario and I paid the price for posting this. Exactly what you don't want to happen with bets like this. It happened.


    Looking for a split (unacceptable at this record) and all I have to do is win outright against a team on a 15 game win streak. Just another walk in the park pick.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2017 - 2:02 PM ET #46

    lets face it yale sucks
    on both sides of the ball

    horrible from 3 

    horrible ft

    cant defend 3

    cant rebound

    triple sweep embarassment

    no heart 2h

    should hang heads low

    pathetic effort


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    lets face it yale sucks
    on both sides of the ball

    horrible from 3 

    horrible ft

    cant defend 3

    cant rebound

    triple sweep embarassment

    no heart 2h

    should hang heads low

    pathetic effort


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceholes:

    lets face it yale sucks
    on both sides of the ball

    horrible from 3 

    horrible ft

    cant defend 3

    cant rebound

    triple sweep embarassment

    no heart 2h

    should hang heads low

    pathetic effort



    We got it.  You tailed and lost.  Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceholes:

    lets face it yale sucks
    on both sides of the ball

    horrible from 3 

    horrible ft

    cant defend 3

    cant rebound

    triple sweep embarassment

    no heart 2h

    should hang heads low

    pathetic effort



    We got it.  You tailed and lost.  Get over it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


    We got it.  You tailed and lost.  Get over it.
    That's bedpan boy for you. He says the same thing about every team he loses on. A complete mental case. Or in his words

    i loose a gane. u c how da play guys play n da ref wers knot on help

    r u kid me. how not git cover. miss da shots

    u c dis?

    most pathetic ever
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


    We got it.  You tailed and lost.  Get over it.
    That's bedpan boy for you. He says the same thing about every team he loses on. A complete mental case. Or in his words

    i loose a gane. u c how da play guys play n da ref wers knot on help

    r u kid me. how not git cover. miss da shots

    u c dis?

    most pathetic ever
     
     
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    Worst part of covers message boards are the salty haters when they tail a perfect stranger and lose...

    Cap your own games or take your losses like a man...
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    Cap your own games or take your losses like a man...
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