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    Dosan23
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:11 AM ET #26

    I'm a little confused Shirley...do you only play the games where the difference is 4 pts or higher than your projected line?

    for instance, you have port st -2.7 as your projected line, and the books have it out at -6, for a difference of 3.3...and you have marked it as a play? even tho the line difference seems to be going the other way? wouldn't it only be a play if port st was a dog?
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    I'm a little confused Shirley...do you only play the games where the difference is 4 pts or higher than your projected line?

    for instance, you have port st -2.7 as your projected line, and the books have it out at -6, for a difference of 3.3...and you have marked it as a play? even tho the line difference seems to be going the other way? wouldn't it only be a play if port st was a dog?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:13 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by KasperNV:

    Washington       4.80*******

    Since you have Wash at this number are you playing Cal at +13.5?

    Actually the adjusted line is 5.10 and yes we are betting on Cal,. getting as many points as possible. My wagering partner will squeeze out  every 1/2 point  for as many of our wagers as he can.

    BOL

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by KasperNV:

    Washington       4.80*******

    Since you have Wash at this number are you playing Cal at +13.5?

    Actually the adjusted line is 5.10 and yes we are betting on Cal,. getting as many points as possible. My wagering partner will squeeze out  every 1/2 point  for as many of our wagers as he can.

    BOL

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:17 AM ET #28

    Hi Shirley,
    New to your thread but i've read alot of your over under threads! Are all the lines and teams youve posted who you feel are favorites by that number?? 
    Just curious! Keep up the great work!!
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    Hi Shirley,
    New to your thread but i've read alot of your over under threads! Are all the lines and teams youve posted who you feel are favorites by that number?? 
    Just curious! Keep up the great work!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:18 AM ET #29

    sorry let me clarify my previous post, after re-reading it, it didn't make much sense.

    Is port st a play tonite? the books line is -6 as of right now...your line is 2.7...shouldn't port st only be a play if they were dogs?
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    sorry let me clarify my previous post, after re-reading it, it didn't make much sense.

    Is port st a play tonite? the books line is -6 as of right now...your line is 2.7...shouldn't port st only be a play if they were dogs?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:21 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Dosan23:

    I'm a little confused Shirley...do you only play the games where the difference is 4 pts or higher than your projected line?

    for instance, you have port st -2.7 as your projected line, and the books have it out at -6, for a difference of 3.3...and you have marked it as a play? even tho the line difference seems to be going the other way? wouldn't it only be a play if port st was a dog?

    Hi actually the books line is 7 for this game and our line is 2.70. The game is a wager on the underdog, since it is more than 4 points from our projected line. We're looking closely at Idaho State here. Perhaps my partner already wagered into the line, I'm not sure.

    We play all 4 point differences that are dogs, as well as favorites, only the dogs are superior wagers.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dosan23:

    I'm a little confused Shirley...do you only play the games where the difference is 4 pts or higher than your projected line?

    for instance, you have port st -2.7 as your projected line, and the books have it out at -6, for a difference of 3.3...and you have marked it as a play? even tho the line difference seems to be going the other way? wouldn't it only be a play if port st was a dog?

    Hi actually the books line is 7 for this game and our line is 2.70. The game is a wager on the underdog, since it is more than 4 points from our projected line. We're looking closely at Idaho State here. Perhaps my partner already wagered into the line, I'm not sure.

    We play all 4 point differences that are dogs, as well as favorites, only the dogs are superior wagers.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:28 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp13:

    Hi Shirley,
    New to your thread but i've read alot of your over under threads! Are all the lines and teams youve posted who you feel are favorites by that number?? 
    Just curious! Keep up the great work!!

    Yes the posted lines are what we believe the lines should be for tonight's games only. Don't interpret tonights data with Saturdays future games. In all likelihood the Saturday numbers will not be anything like tonights lines.

    Just bet on any 4 point differences. 3 points or more are ok, but  4 points is much better. Of course a 9.6 point difference for every game  (like Hoffstra last night), would be ideal. Concentrate on dogs to take advantage of the bias. Limit your wagers on favorites to 4 point differences or more.

    If I go 10-0 or 0-10 tonight, it will not change my analysis of tomorrows games, and I will accept each the result as just 10 of many thousands of  lifetime wagering events.

    BOL

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp13:

    Hi Shirley,
    New to your thread but i've read alot of your over under threads! Are all the lines and teams youve posted who you feel are favorites by that number?? 
    Just curious! Keep up the great work!!

    Yes the posted lines are what we believe the lines should be for tonight's games only. Don't interpret tonights data with Saturdays future games. In all likelihood the Saturday numbers will not be anything like tonights lines.

    Just bet on any 4 point differences. 3 points or more are ok, but  4 points is much better. Of course a 9.6 point difference for every game  (like Hoffstra last night), would be ideal. Concentrate on dogs to take advantage of the bias. Limit your wagers on favorites to 4 point differences or more.

    If I go 10-0 or 0-10 tonight, it will not change my analysis of tomorrows games, and I will accept each the result as just 10 of many thousands of  lifetime wagering events.

    BOL

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:29 AM ET #32

    IT WOULD APPEAR THAT YOU ARE OMITTING EAST ILLINOIS FROM YOUR SHEET

     

    YOU HAVE MOREHEAD -12..MY BOOK IS OFFERING EAST ILL +16..AM I CORRECT THAT IT SHOULD BE A PLAY?

    THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS WORK AND CONTINUED SUCCESS

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    IT WOULD APPEAR THAT YOU ARE OMITTING EAST ILLINOIS FROM YOUR SHEET

     

    YOU HAVE MOREHEAD -12..MY BOOK IS OFFERING EAST ILL +16..AM I CORRECT THAT IT SHOULD BE A PLAY?

    THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS WORK AND CONTINUED SUCCESS

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 9:44 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by MR TINGLES:

    IT WOULD APPEAR THAT YOU ARE OMITTING EAST ILLINOIS FROM YOUR SHEET

     

    YOU HAVE MOREHEAD -12..MY BOOK IS OFFERING EAST ILL +16..AM I CORRECT THAT IT SHOULD BE A PLAY?

    THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS WORK AND CONTINUED SUCCESS

    I want to thank you for bringing this game to my attention. Since the computer aactually updated yesterdays data, the new adjusted line for this game is Morehead St -13.0 We can only wager on E Ill if we are receiving 17.0 points or more, although it is a dog of 3 or more, and probably STILL represents a wagering advantage.

    The only think I know about Morehead is that they have the one of the best rebounders in the country. This makes me want to get at least 17 here.

    Sorry for the inconvenience

    BOL

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR TINGLES:

    IT WOULD APPEAR THAT YOU ARE OMITTING EAST ILLINOIS FROM YOUR SHEET

     

    YOU HAVE MOREHEAD -12..MY BOOK IS OFFERING EAST ILL +16..AM I CORRECT THAT IT SHOULD BE A PLAY?

    THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS WORK AND CONTINUED SUCCESS

    I want to thank you for bringing this game to my attention. Since the computer aactually updated yesterdays data, the new adjusted line for this game is Morehead St -13.0 We can only wager on E Ill if we are receiving 17.0 points or more, although it is a dog of 3 or more, and probably STILL represents a wagering advantage.

    The only think I know about Morehead is that they have the one of the best rebounders in the country. This makes me want to get at least 17 here.

    Sorry for the inconvenience

    BOL

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:08 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    We play all 4 point differences that are dogs, as well as favorites, only the dogs are superior wagers.

    Shirley

     

    shirley, I understand that dogs are superior wagers....but when is a favorite actually chosen according to your system.

     

    Also, do your lines change as we get closer to game time? For example, you say your computer updated yesterday lines for morehead st.....does your computer frequently update as we get closer to game time based on access to new data?

    so on this private site you work with a bunch of skull members to win wagers and then you volunteer your time to come to covers to help us for free despite the fact that we cannot persuade you away from your system..... seems pretty one way....what do you have to gain by doing this.....are praises and support sufficient enough for you to provide ya number on a continuing basis? *sighs* I guess we will just take it one day at a time....we'll we?

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    We play all 4 point differences that are dogs, as well as favorites, only the dogs are superior wagers.

    Shirley

     

    shirley, I understand that dogs are superior wagers....but when is a favorite actually chosen according to your system.

     

    Also, do your lines change as we get closer to game time? For example, you say your computer updated yesterday lines for morehead st.....does your computer frequently update as we get closer to game time based on access to new data?

    so on this private site you work with a bunch of skull members to win wagers and then you volunteer your time to come to covers to help us for free despite the fact that we cannot persuade you away from your system..... seems pretty one way....what do you have to gain by doing this.....are praises and support sufficient enough for you to provide ya number on a continuing basis? *sighs* I guess we will just take it one day at a time....we'll we?

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:11 AM ET #35

    Just a guess but do you set the limit at 4 due to the perceived notion that it would be a multiple possession difference in the line?  Whereas a anything below 4 could turn on one possession (say a last second shot, etc....)
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    Just a guess but do you set the limit at 4 due to the perceived notion that it would be a multiple possession difference in the line?  Whereas a anything below 4 could turn on one possession (say a last second shot, etc....)
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:21 AM ET #36

    im just gonna tease all my favorite of your dog plays.. i like that idea
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    im just gonna tease all my favorite of your dog plays.. i like that idea
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:21 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

     

    shirley, I understand that dogs are superior wagers....but when is a favorite actually chosen according to your system.

     

     

    I see it now.....all of your lines are favorites, so if your favorite is more than 5.2 over the books lines, then select that favorite

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

     

    shirley, I understand that dogs are superior wagers....but when is a favorite actually chosen according to your system.

     

     

    I see it now.....all of your lines are favorites, so if your favorite is more than 5.2 over the books lines, then select that favorite

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:29 AM ET #38

    so the adjusted line has wisc mil as 4.3 point favorites?
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    so the adjusted line has wisc mil as 4.3 point favorites?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:30 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

     

    shirley, I understand that dogs are superior wagers....but when is a favorite actually chosen according to your system.

    You can wager on a favorite with a 4 point difference. Just remember to wager MORE on a dog with the same 4 point difference.

     

    Also, do your lines change as we get closer to game time? For example, you say your computer updated yesterday lines for morehead st.....does your computer frequently update as we get closer to game time based on access to new data?

    The data is updated every morning, It ususally doesn't change the game lines by too much, Morehead was an extreme example of such a change. We make errors in copying things as well, and everything has to be double checked. It's difficult to do this with me on the East Coast, and my partner 2500 miles away.

    so on this private site you work with a bunch of skull members to win wagers and then you volunteer your time to come to covers to help us for free despite the fact that we cannot persuade you away from your system..... seems pretty one way....what do you have to gain by doing this.....are praises and support sufficient enough for you to provide ya number on a continuing basis? *sighs* I guess we will just take it one day at a time....we'll we?

    The private site is for a group of players that "invest" in gambling opportunites, around the world.

    I have actually received some valuable information from this group, and have incorporated it into our model. SO, it's not as one sided a syou would think. Additionally, a couple of people have volunteered to perform some data entry roles, and work on our horse racing model as well. This takes devotion on a daily basis, so there is some upside gained from being on this site and this forum.

    After the season is over, I will be asking for a poll of the people in here, to help in the design of a superior pointspread model than we or anyone else currently has. The questions and the results should be rather interesting. This will come in April...........No foolin'

    Back to bed for me

    Shirley

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

     

    shirley, I understand that dogs are superior wagers....but when is a favorite actually chosen according to your system.

    You can wager on a favorite with a 4 point difference. Just remember to wager MORE on a dog with the same 4 point difference.

     

    Also, do your lines change as we get closer to game time? For example, you say your computer updated yesterday lines for morehead st.....does your computer frequently update as we get closer to game time based on access to new data?

    The data is updated every morning, It ususally doesn't change the game lines by too much, Morehead was an extreme example of such a change. We make errors in copying things as well, and everything has to be double checked. It's difficult to do this with me on the East Coast, and my partner 2500 miles away.

    so on this private site you work with a bunch of skull members to win wagers and then you volunteer your time to come to covers to help us for free despite the fact that we cannot persuade you away from your system..... seems pretty one way....what do you have to gain by doing this.....are praises and support sufficient enough for you to provide ya number on a continuing basis? *sighs* I guess we will just take it one day at a time....we'll we?

    The private site is for a group of players that "invest" in gambling opportunites, around the world.

    I have actually received some valuable information from this group, and have incorporated it into our model. SO, it's not as one sided a syou would think. Additionally, a couple of people have volunteered to perform some data entry roles, and work on our horse racing model as well. This takes devotion on a daily basis, so there is some upside gained from being on this site and this forum.

    After the season is over, I will be asking for a poll of the people in here, to help in the design of a superior pointspread model than we or anyone else currently has. The questions and the results should be rather interesting. This will come in April...........No foolin'

    Back to bed for me

    Shirley

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:32 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by BETTINHARDD:

    so the adjusted line has wisc mil as 4.3 point favorites?

    YES, We have Wisc Mil as the favorite in this game, and they are a dog getting points. We like this game, of course.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by BETTINHARDD:

    so the adjusted line has wisc mil as 4.3 point favorites?

    YES, We have Wisc Mil as the favorite in this game, and they are a dog getting points. We like this game, of course.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:35 AM ET #41

    This is very interesting.  I'm usually not trusting of this kind of stuff, but I have so say after reading and looking at some of the games, I am very impressed.  I want to know how you can build/get a model like this??? Anyway, after looking at Shirley's numbers for tonight's games I am leaning toward a 3Team 8Pt teaser.

    Wisc-Mil +11

    Cal +21.5

    Gonzaga pk.

    After last night's Nova and Utah state games, I could use some insight.

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    This is very interesting.  I'm usually not trusting of this kind of stuff, but I have so say after reading and looking at some of the games, I am very impressed.  I want to know how you can build/get a model like this??? Anyway, after looking at Shirley's numbers for tonight's games I am leaning toward a 3Team 8Pt teaser.

    Wisc-Mil +11

    Cal +21.5

    Gonzaga pk.

    After last night's Nova and Utah state games, I could use some insight.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:37 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by berghawk:

    Just a guess but do you set the limit at 4 due to the perceived notion that it would be a multiple possession difference in the line?  Whereas a anything below 4 could turn on one possession (say a last second shot, etc....)

    Actually 1 possession is never equal to more than 1.5 points or so. I kindly explained this concept to RJ Sizzle yesterday. He is an astute handicapper, but even his perception of what a possession is worth, was off. In a perfect world, no turnovers, no steals, no offensive fouls, then you might reach 1.70 points, that's my final offer!

    Actually your statement does make me think a bit more, but it's just that over time we have seen 4 point differences, this time of the year, as the number we are keying on.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by berghawk:

    Just a guess but do you set the limit at 4 due to the perceived notion that it would be a multiple possession difference in the line?  Whereas a anything below 4 could turn on one possession (say a last second shot, etc....)

    Actually 1 possession is never equal to more than 1.5 points or so. I kindly explained this concept to RJ Sizzle yesterday. He is an astute handicapper, but even his perception of what a possession is worth, was off. In a perfect world, no turnovers, no steals, no offensive fouls, then you might reach 1.70 points, that's my final offer!

    Actually your statement does make me think a bit more, but it's just that over time we have seen 4 point differences, this time of the year, as the number we are keying on.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:39 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

     

    I see it now.....all of your lines are favorites, so if your favorite is more than 5.2 over the books lines, then select that favorite

    NO, you can play any game with a 4 point difference, however just wager more on the dogs than you do for the favorites with the same "delta" (difference between our line and the books).

    Hope that helps

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsilence:

     

    I see it now.....all of your lines are favorites, so if your favorite is more than 5.2 over the books lines, then select that favorite

    NO, you can play any game with a 4 point difference, however just wager more on the dogs than you do for the favorites with the same "delta" (difference between our line and the books).

    Hope that helps

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:46 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoopdog7:

    This is very interesting.  I'm usually not trusting of this kind of stuff, but I have so say after reading and looking at some of the games, I am very impressed.  I want to know how you can build/get a model like this??? Anyway, after looking at Shirley's numbers for tonight's games I am leaning toward a 3Team 8Pt teaser.

    Wisc-Mil +11

    Cal +21.5

    Gonzaga pk.

    After last night's Nova and Utah state games, I could use some insight.

    We usually only like teasers in Pro football, however GL in your play.

    Remember not to get too excited win or lose over a days plays. Also keep in mind the person providing this information wears a dunce cap!

    Our Villanova prediction wasn't so hot last night, as we had them winnng by 8.10 or so. however we were aware of the DANGER with this play, It was a favorite where the line differed by 2.10 from our line. Definitely a NO PLAY. We had Utah State by 11. another no play. Off the top my head, I don't recall what the result was there.

    BOL

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoopdog7:

    This is very interesting.  I'm usually not trusting of this kind of stuff, but I have so say after reading and looking at some of the games, I am very impressed.  I want to know how you can build/get a model like this??? Anyway, after looking at Shirley's numbers for tonight's games I am leaning toward a 3Team 8Pt teaser.

    Wisc-Mil +11

    Cal +21.5

    Gonzaga pk.

    After last night's Nova and Utah state games, I could use some insight.

    We usually only like teasers in Pro football, however GL in your play.

    Remember not to get too excited win or lose over a days plays. Also keep in mind the person providing this information wears a dunce cap!

    Our Villanova prediction wasn't so hot last night, as we had them winnng by 8.10 or so. however we were aware of the DANGER with this play, It was a favorite where the line differed by 2.10 from our line. Definitely a NO PLAY. We had Utah State by 11. another no play. Off the top my head, I don't recall what the result was there.

    BOL

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:54 AM ET #45

    Thanks Shirley...I wish I paid attention to your thread yesterday, oh well, no worries.  Utah State got their lunch handed to them and lost the game by a good margin.

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    Thanks Shirley...I wish I paid attention to your thread yesterday, oh well, no worries.  Utah State got their lunch handed to them and lost the game by a good margin.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 10:58 AM ET #46

    Hi Shirley, great job and thank you for sharing your numbers, this may have been asked before but does your data contain any special situations such as a team on a long road trip, game before went into double overtime or injuries, again thanks for your time and I hope for your continued success 
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    Hi Shirley, great job and thank you for sharing your numbers, this may have been asked before but does your data contain any special situations such as a team on a long road trip, game before went into double overtime or injuries, again thanks for your time and I hope for your continued success 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 11:09 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by littlesprings:

    Hi Shirley, great job and thank you for sharing your numbers, this may have been asked before but does your data contain any special situations such as a team on a long road trip, game before went into double overtime or injuries, again thanks for your time and I hope for your continued success 

    I will answer your question.

    Yes, Yes, Yes. Our new updated version acounts for injuries and makes the appropriate substitutions from the bench. There ususally isn't much of a difference (ala Kyrie vs Nolan), but sometimes it projects really weird things that are seemingly conflicted in nature.

    It's like wagering on Seattle on the money line, and New Orleans on the pointspread. I hope this doesn't confuse you.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlesprings:

    Hi Shirley, great job and thank you for sharing your numbers, this may have been asked before but does your data contain any special situations such as a team on a long road trip, game before went into double overtime or injuries, again thanks for your time and I hope for your continued success 

    I will answer your question.

    Yes, Yes, Yes. Our new updated version acounts for injuries and makes the appropriate substitutions from the bench. There ususally isn't much of a difference (ala Kyrie vs Nolan), but sometimes it projects really weird things that are seemingly conflicted in nature.

    It's like wagering on Seattle on the money line, and New Orleans on the pointspread. I hope this doesn't confuse you.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 11:46 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by tommyack12:

    wanna start your own sports service?

    check this out https://tiny.cc/z3xuq

    We really aren't interested in charging people  for picks.

    Thank you for the suggestion.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyack12:

    wanna start your own sports service?

    check this out https://tiny.cc/z3xuq

    We really aren't interested in charging people  for picks.

    Thank you for the suggestion.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 11:58 AM ET #49

    who is USF
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    who is USF
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2011 - 12:00 PM ET #50

    Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am a little confused. 

    For the Cal pick, I understand you chose to pick Cal + the points but what about the Gonzaga game.  You have your number more than the current spread so would you bet Gonzaga as the favorite?  But just not as strong as underdogs?
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    Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am a little confused. 

    For the Cal pick, I understand you chose to pick Cal + the points but what about the Gonzaga game.  You have your number more than the current spread so would you bet Gonzaga as the favorite?  But just not as strong as underdogs?
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