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    Jimguerr
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:20 AM ET #26

    Northeastern is a 1.5 to 2.5 dog and her calculation has them at 7.60 favorite making Northeastern a strong play! It's not rocket science people!!!! She has done all the hard work so refrain from the dumb questions.
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    Northeastern is a 1.5 to 2.5 dog and her calculation has them at 7.60 favorite making Northeastern a strong play! It's not rocket science people!!!! She has done all the hard work so refrain from the dumb questions.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:21 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimguerr:

    Northeastern is a 1.5 to 2.5 dog and her calculation has them at 7.60 favorite making Northeastern a strong play! It's not rocket science people!!!! She has done all the hard work so refrain from the dumb questions.



    Well said......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimguerr:

    Northeastern is a 1.5 to 2.5 dog and her calculation has them at 7.60 favorite making Northeastern a strong play! It's not rocket science people!!!! She has done all the hard work so refrain from the dumb questions.



    Well said......
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:22 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by dtown01:

    shirley, thanks for posted your line, I have a question for you

    your line have richmond 3.90 my book have them at -10 so St louis is a play

    Yes, St Louis is a dog play with a delta of 6.10

    Hold your breath on this one, they're not that good, and we are trusting the computer to point us in the right direction here. It's not my favorite play of the day, but I will have $$$$$ on it. If it loses, I will not be surprised, because a closer look at both teams tell me that it could in fact be a blowout. I still go with the model over my personal opinion, but I have the LIBERTY to use my mind in my evaluations as well.

     Everyone should lay off of a game if they think the model is wrong, or they have information or a 6th sense about things that are difficult to quantify. There are some really good handicappers in here, that I'm sure will NOT be wagering on Cal today, even though it is one of my computers selections. I personally have 2nd thought on that game, and will look hard at the moves, and others opinions that I respect for their take on the game.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtown01:

    shirley, thanks for posted your line, I have a question for you

    your line have richmond 3.90 my book have them at -10 so St louis is a play

    Yes, St Louis is a dog play with a delta of 6.10

    Hold your breath on this one, they're not that good, and we are trusting the computer to point us in the right direction here. It's not my favorite play of the day, but I will have $$$$$ on it. If it loses, I will not be surprised, because a closer look at both teams tell me that it could in fact be a blowout. I still go with the model over my personal opinion, but I have the LIBERTY to use my mind in my evaluations as well.

     Everyone should lay off of a game if they think the model is wrong, or they have information or a 6th sense about things that are difficult to quantify. There are some really good handicappers in here, that I'm sure will NOT be wagering on Cal today, even though it is one of my computers selections. I personally have 2nd thought on that game, and will look hard at the moves, and others opinions that I respect for their take on the game.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:23 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimguerr:

    Northeastern is a 1.5 to 2.5 dog and her calculation has them at 7.60 favorite making Northeastern a strong play! It's not rocket science people!!!! She has done all the hard work so refrain from the dumb questions.

    Agree 100%

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimguerr:

    Northeastern is a 1.5 to 2.5 dog and her calculation has them at 7.60 favorite making Northeastern a strong play! It's not rocket science people!!!! She has done all the hard work so refrain from the dumb questions.

    Agree 100%

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:25 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by alabamam25:

    how does this system work btw great record  what makes a game a play or not?


    Please.....just go back and READ her older posts.....it is all explained in detail.
    A little due diligence never hurt anyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alabamam25:

    how does this system work btw great record  what makes a game a play or not?


    Please.....just go back and READ her older posts.....it is all explained in detail.
    A little due diligence never hurt anyone.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:25 AM ET #31

    so are you eventually going to make several picks or is that documented record just the numbers you've posted?
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    so are you eventually going to make several picks or is that documented record just the numbers you've posted?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:26 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Yes, St Louis is a dog play with a delta of 6.10

    Hold your breath on this one, they're not that good, and we are trusting the computer to point us in the right direction here. It's not my favorite play of the day, but I will have $$$$$ on it. If it loses, I will not be surprised, because a closer look at both teams tell me that it could in fact be a blowout. I still go with the model over my personal opinion, but I have the LIBERTY to use my mind in my evaluations as well.

     Everyone should lay off of a game if they think the model is wrong, or they have information or a 6th sense about things that are difficult to quantify. There are some really good handicappers in here, that I'm sure will NOT be wagering on Cal today, even though it is one of my computers selections. I personally have 2nd thought on that game, and will look hard at the moves, and others opinions that I respect for their take on the game.

    Shirley



    Shirley....don't forget that TROY play the other night......they are weak....and won outright....
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    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Yes, St Louis is a dog play with a delta of 6.10

    Hold your breath on this one, they're not that good, and we are trusting the computer to point us in the right direction here. It's not my favorite play of the day, but I will have $$$$$ on it. If it loses, I will not be surprised, because a closer look at both teams tell me that it could in fact be a blowout. I still go with the model over my personal opinion, but I have the LIBERTY to use my mind in my evaluations as well.

     Everyone should lay off of a game if they think the model is wrong, or they have information or a 6th sense about things that are difficult to quantify. There are some really good handicappers in here, that I'm sure will NOT be wagering on Cal today, even though it is one of my computers selections. I personally have 2nd thought on that game, and will look hard at the moves, and others opinions that I respect for their take on the game.

    Shirley



    Shirley....don't forget that TROY play the other night......they are weak....and won outright....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:27 AM ET #33

    thank for your time, good job, with siena¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:32 AM ET #34

    You're the nuts, Shirley.

    Thanks!,
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    You're the nuts, Shirley.

    Thanks!,
    RT2
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:34 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomMoneyInBANK:

    so are you eventually going to make several picks or is that documented record just the numbers you've posted?


    She has supplied the computer line....now YOU can do your own homework against the ACTUAL Vegas lines to find the plays.
    If you need help understanding the system, please go back and review her older posts.
    I'm not trying to be abrasive, but Shirley has essentially done the "leg work" for you.....and I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to continue to explain her system in EVERY post.

    The reason I say this is due to the fact that her thread from the other day became a bit clogged up with unnecessary nonsense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomMoneyInBANK:

    so are you eventually going to make several picks or is that documented record just the numbers you've posted?


    She has supplied the computer line....now YOU can do your own homework against the ACTUAL Vegas lines to find the plays.
    If you need help understanding the system, please go back and review her older posts.
    I'm not trying to be abrasive, but Shirley has essentially done the "leg work" for you.....and I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to continue to explain her system in EVERY post.

    The reason I say this is due to the fact that her thread from the other day became a bit clogged up with unnecessary nonsense.




     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:35 AM ET #36

    is NE           northeastern or NEBRASKA?
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    is NE           northeastern or NEBRASKA?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:37 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by BookSurgeon:

    first post on this forum. been watching here and there but cant seem to figure out how to convert shirley's system into the lines the books have. will someone help me out and post on here how to do it with an exaple, or PM me with the info. either way it would be greatly appreciated. thanks and BOL to all today. lets make that money

     

    Shirley lists the lines that her computer comes up with.  It's our job to find where there is a big difference between her numbers and the actual line.  When she says NE 7.6, that means her module says NE will win by 7.6. (She doesn't use the negative sign, she just lists the favorites according to her computer module).  Meanwhile the actual line on that game is NE +1...so this is an easy play...the difference is 8.6...a difference of 4 qualifies for a play. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BookSurgeon:

    first post on this forum. been watching here and there but cant seem to figure out how to convert shirley's system into the lines the books have. will someone help me out and post on here how to do it with an exaple, or PM me with the info. either way it would be greatly appreciated. thanks and BOL to all today. lets make that money

     

    Shirley lists the lines that her computer comes up with.  It's our job to find where there is a big difference between her numbers and the actual line.  When she says NE 7.6, that means her module says NE will win by 7.6. (She doesn't use the negative sign, she just lists the favorites according to her computer module).  Meanwhile the actual line on that game is NE +1...so this is an easy play...the difference is 8.6...a difference of 4 qualifies for a play. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:41 AM ET #38

    hey guys so here is my pick can someone let me know if i am wrong

    St Louis +10 

    Unc pk

    New Mex state -1

    Tennessee +5.5

    Miami Ohio -5

    thanks

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    hey guys so here is my pick can someone let me know if i am wrong

    St Louis +10 

    Unc pk

    New Mex state -1

    Tennessee +5.5

    Miami Ohio -5

    thanks

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:42 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by RebelTell2:

    You're the nuts, Shirley.

    Thanks!,
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    I'm probably more "NUTS" than "the nuts"

    Thank you

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelTell2:

    You're the nuts, Shirley.

    Thanks!,
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    I'm probably more "NUTS" than "the nuts"

    Thank you

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:44 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by dtayls:

    UNC -6 looks like a play to me (+1 on the road at Clem)


    THAT'S -1, NOT +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtayls:

    UNC -6 looks like a play to me (+1 on the road at Clem)


    THAT'S -1, NOT +1
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:49 AM ET #41

    dtown...you left out

    northeaster +2 1/2

    Syracuse +2

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    dtown...you left out

    northeaster +2 1/2

    Syracuse +2

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:50 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Hank55:



    THAT'S -1, NOT +1

    Remember favorites are not as good as dogs, historically speaking.

    Out for a few hours, catch up with everyone later.

    Shirley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank55:



    THAT'S -1, NOT +1

    Remember favorites are not as good as dogs, historically speaking.

    Out for a few hours, catch up with everyone later.

    Shirley

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:50 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by AuburnCaddy:

    dtown...you left out

    northeaster +2 1/2

    Syracuse +2

      so far am i doing rite? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuburnCaddy:

    dtown...you left out

    northeaster +2 1/2

    Syracuse +2

      so far am i doing rite? thanks
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:52 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Remember favorites are not as good as dogs, historically speaking.

    Out for a few hours, catch up with everyone later.

    Shirley

    Shirley, so UNC is a play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirley-jester:

    Remember favorites are not as good as dogs, historically speaking.

    Out for a few hours, catch up with everyone later.

    Shirley

    Shirley, so UNC is a play?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 9:53 AM ET #45

    Yep...but she is right...favorites dont do as well as the dogs do...N.Mexico State scares me..one of their best players is out...careful with that one.  will probably still be on it but like shirley says..sometimes gott roll with your gut too.
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    Yep...but she is right...favorites dont do as well as the dogs do...N.Mexico State scares me..one of their best players is out...careful with that one.  will probably still be on it but like shirley says..sometimes gott roll with your gut too.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 10:01 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Hank55:



    THAT'S -1, NOT +1


    +1 at betqs
    https://livefeed.betqs.com/LiveLines/LiveLinesView.aspx?lg=272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank55:



    THAT'S -1, NOT +1


    +1 at betqs
    https://livefeed.betqs.com/LiveLines/LiveLinesView.aspx?lg=272
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 10:02 AM ET #47

    ok guys - based on those numbers and the current lines here is how it is:

    i will list the play, then the difference

    underdogs:

    northeastern   -    10.1

    unc   -   7

    cuse   -   4.1

    st louis   -   6.1

    william and mary   -   4.4

    wisc gb   -   6.3

    cal   -   6.0

    utah   -   4.7

    tenn   -   5.1

    ok st   -   5.2

    tulsa   -   8.0

    kansas st   -   6.5

    fresno   -   4.0

    nevada   -   5.6

    uc riverside   -   4.9

    davidson   -   5.4

     

    favorites:

    nm st   -   4.1

    miami (oh)   -   5.1

    long beach st   -   6.0

    THOSE ARE ALL THE PLAYS THAT DIFFER 4.0 OR MORE POINTS.

    NOW HERE ARE ONES BETWEEN 3 AND 4. BUT ONLY UNDERDOGS, BECAUSE SHIRLEY SAYS IF U DIP DOWN TO 3, U CAN ONLY TAKE THE DOG. THESE ARE NOT OFFICIAL PLAYS, JUST ONES TO CONSIDER.

    underdogs:

    ysu   -   3.5

    bc   -   3.6 (play if line moves to +3)

    odu   -   3.7

    seton hall   -   3.5

    northern colorado   -   3.1

     

    hope that clears alot up for everyone

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    ok guys - based on those numbers and the current lines here is how it is:

    i will list the play, then the difference

    underdogs:

    northeastern   -    10.1

    unc   -   7

    cuse   -   4.1

    st louis   -   6.1

    william and mary   -   4.4

    wisc gb   -   6.3

    cal   -   6.0

    utah   -   4.7

    tenn   -   5.1

    ok st   -   5.2

    tulsa   -   8.0

    kansas st   -   6.5

    fresno   -   4.0

    nevada   -   5.6

    uc riverside   -   4.9

    davidson   -   5.4

     

    favorites:

    nm st   -   4.1

    miami (oh)   -   5.1

    long beach st   -   6.0

    THOSE ARE ALL THE PLAYS THAT DIFFER 4.0 OR MORE POINTS.

    NOW HERE ARE ONES BETWEEN 3 AND 4. BUT ONLY UNDERDOGS, BECAUSE SHIRLEY SAYS IF U DIP DOWN TO 3, U CAN ONLY TAKE THE DOG. THESE ARE NOT OFFICIAL PLAYS, JUST ONES TO CONSIDER.

    underdogs:

    ysu   -   3.5

    bc   -   3.6 (play if line moves to +3)

    odu   -   3.7

    seton hall   -   3.5

    northern colorado   -   3.1

     

    hope that clears alot up for everyone

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 10:04 AM ET #48

    thanks for taking the time witman30 my eyes were starting to cross
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 10:06 AM ET #49

    old d should be a 4.2 dog
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 10:13 AM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by dtayls:



    +1 at betqs
    https://livefeed.betqs.com/LiveLines/LiveLinesView.aspx?lg=272

     

    I see mostly UNC + 1.5 (Matchbook, 5-Dimes, Pinny, Bet US, Cris) some +1's.   Looks like some RLM w most wagers coming in on UNC. Maybe a ploy by books to deter some big $$$ from sharps... after all it really wont make a diff if UNC wins by a handful or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtayls:



    +1 at betqs
    https://livefeed.betqs.com/LiveLines/LiveLinesView.aspx?lg=272

     

    I see mostly UNC + 1.5 (Matchbook, 5-Dimes, Pinny, Bet US, Cris) some +1's.   Looks like some RLM w most wagers coming in on UNC. Maybe a ploy by books to deter some big $$$ from sharps... after all it really wont make a diff if UNC wins by a handful or more.

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