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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 5:00 PM ET #276

    Dayton and Davidson fit but I've had ZERO time to do any research an_brick so I in no way endorse these as solid plays.

    Maybe I should quit and do this full time! 

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    Dayton and Davidson fit but I've had ZERO time to do any research an_brick so I in no way endorse these as solid plays.

    Maybe I should quit and do this full time! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 5:21 PM ET #277

    Hi Redtear, Just wondering  how Dayton fits? They opened -15 1/2 and went to -17 1/2 but 100% of the money is also on Dayton according to both scoresandodds and vegasinsider. Vegasinsider has 21% of the sides on Dayton. (At least as I write this) Is the side % important? Thanks

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    Hi Redtear, Just wondering  how Dayton fits? They opened -15 1/2 and went to -17 1/2 but 100% of the money is also on Dayton according to both scoresandodds and vegasinsider. Vegasinsider has 21% of the sides on Dayton. (At least as I write this) Is the side % important? Thanks

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 5:39 PM ET #278

    Quote Originally Posted by lonfident:

    Hi Redtear, Just wondering  how Dayton fits? They opened -15 1/2 and went to -17 1/2 but 100% of the money is also on Dayton according to both scoresandodds and vegasinsider. Vegasinsider has 21% of the sides on Dayton. (At least as I write this) Is the side % important? Thanks
    It did when I looked earlier, movement has probably changed now. 1. That's why I always wait til tip off and 2. Like I said zero time to adequately look at any of these games. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonfident:

    Hi Redtear, Just wondering  how Dayton fits? They opened -15 1/2 and went to -17 1/2 but 100% of the money is also on Dayton according to both scoresandodds and vegasinsider. Vegasinsider has 21% of the sides on Dayton. (At least as I write this) Is the side % important? Thanks
    It did when I looked earlier, movement has probably changed now. 1. That's why I always wait til tip off and 2. Like I said zero time to adequately look at any of these games. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 6:13 PM ET #279

    SDSU VS NDSU -  Line opened SDSU -3.  78% wagers on SDSU and 70% of money and line has moved to SDSU -1.5

     

    VI shows 96% wagers on SDSU...

     

     

    NDSU +1.5

     

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    SDSU VS NDSU -  Line opened SDSU -3.  78% wagers on SDSU and 70% of money and line has moved to SDSU -1.5

     

    VI shows 96% wagers on SDSU...

     

     

    NDSU +1.5

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 6:22 PM ET #280

    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    SDSU VS NDSU -  Line opened SDSU -3.  78% wagers on SDSU and 70% of money and line has moved to SDSU -1.5   VI shows 96% wagers on SDSU...     NDSU +1.5

    The tricky one with this game is that I think at one point NDSU was at PK then jumped back up to +1.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    SDSU VS NDSU -  Line opened SDSU -3.  78% wagers on SDSU and 70% of money and line has moved to SDSU -1.5   VI shows 96% wagers on SDSU...     NDSU +1.5

    The tricky one with this game is that I think at one point NDSU was at PK then jumped back up to +1.5.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 6:29 PM ET #281

    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    SDSU VS NDSU -  Line opened SDSU -3.  78% wagers on SDSU and 70% of money and line has moved to SDSU -1.5   VI shows 96% wagers on SDSU...     NDSU +1.5
    The tricky one with this game is that I think at one point NDSU was at PK then jumped back up to +1.5.

     

    Yeah SDSU started at -2.5 at most places and some places had NDSU as a Pk or even -.5 from what I can see...

     

    Another interesting game is Mich vs PSU.  Lined opened at Mich -5/5.5 and even tho a majority of wagers and money is backing Mich, the line has dropped to 4.5 or has stayed at 5

     

    PSU  +5

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    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    SDSU VS NDSU -  Line opened SDSU -3.  78% wagers on SDSU and 70% of money and line has moved to SDSU -1.5   VI shows 96% wagers on SDSU...     NDSU +1.5
    The tricky one with this game is that I think at one point NDSU was at PK then jumped back up to +1.5.

     

    Yeah SDSU started at -2.5 at most places and some places had NDSU as a Pk or even -.5 from what I can see...

     

    Another interesting game is Mich vs PSU.  Lined opened at Mich -5/5.5 and even tho a majority of wagers and money is backing Mich, the line has dropped to 4.5 or has stayed at 5

     

    PSU  +5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 6:33 PM ET #282

    I played SIU. Good luck all. 
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    I played SIU. Good luck all. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2020 - 6:43 PM ET #283

    Psu /Mich toal opened at 150, 76% of money on over but total goes down to 147.5. What do you all think of that?

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    Psu /Mich toal opened at 150, 76% of money on over but total goes down to 147.5. What do you all think of that?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 12:00 PM ET #284

    Hello

    It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER.

    I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something.

    So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful.

    Thank you and good luck with your choices.

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    Hello

    It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER.

    I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something.

    So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful.

    Thank you and good luck with your choices.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 12:15 PM ET #285

    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Hello It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER. I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something. So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful. Thank you and good luck with your choices.

     

    What you want to do is find the games in the NCAAB tab on the bottom. Normally the little "window" will tell you the opening odds, current odds and % of bets. From there you can already get a good glimpse of what is moving favorably for this method. 

    So let's say you see a game you like where the odds moved in your favor. Click into Line Movements and it'll show you the line movement throughout the day. Also, click into BT movement (Betting Trends) to see the trend. You'll want to make sure the betting trend % are not spontaneous though like 75% to 25% then to 50% then back up to 75% and down and up...you want something stable. 

    Hope that helps a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Hello It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER. I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something. So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful. Thank you and good luck with your choices.

     

    What you want to do is find the games in the NCAAB tab on the bottom. Normally the little "window" will tell you the opening odds, current odds and % of bets. From there you can already get a good glimpse of what is moving favorably for this method. 

    So let's say you see a game you like where the odds moved in your favor. Click into Line Movements and it'll show you the line movement throughout the day. Also, click into BT movement (Betting Trends) to see the trend. You'll want to make sure the betting trend % are not spontaneous though like 75% to 25% then to 50% then back up to 75% and down and up...you want something stable. 

    Hope that helps a little.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 12:50 PM ET #286

    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Hello It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER. I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something. So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful. Thank you and good luck with your choices.
      What you want to do is find the games in the NCAAB tab on the bottom. Normally the little "window" will tell you the opening odds, current odds and % of bets. From there you can already get a good glimpse of what is moving favorably for this method.  So let's say you see a game you like where the odds moved in your favor. Click into Line Movements and it'll show you the line movement throughout the day. Also, click into BT movement (Betting Trends) to see the trend. You'll want to make sure the betting trend % are not spontaneous though like 75% to 25% then to 50% then back up to 75% and down and up...you want something stable.  Hope that helps a little.

    Thank you Moemoney for answering me.

    Is it really these first painting that we have to look at ?

    https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/matchups/

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    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Hello It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER. I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something. So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful. Thank you and good luck with your choices.
      What you want to do is find the games in the NCAAB tab on the bottom. Normally the little "window" will tell you the opening odds, current odds and % of bets. From there you can already get a good glimpse of what is moving favorably for this method.  So let's say you see a game you like where the odds moved in your favor. Click into Line Movements and it'll show you the line movement throughout the day. Also, click into BT movement (Betting Trends) to see the trend. You'll want to make sure the betting trend % are not spontaneous though like 75% to 25% then to 50% then back up to 75% and down and up...you want something stable.  Hope that helps a little.

    Thank you Moemoney for answering me.

    Is it really these first painting that we have to look at ?

    https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/matchups/

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 1:16 PM ET #289

    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Hello It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER. I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something. So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful. Thank you and good luck with your choices.
      What you want to do is find the games in the NCAAB tab on the bottom. Normally the little "window" will tell you the opening odds, current odds and % of bets. From there you can already get a good glimpse of what is moving favorably for this method.  So let's say you see a game you like where the odds moved in your favor. Click into Line Movements and it'll show you the line movement throughout the day. Also, click into BT movement (Betting Trends) to see the trend. You'll want to make sure the betting trend % are not spontaneous though like 75% to 25% then to 50% then back up to 75% and down and up...you want something stable.  Hope that helps a little.
    Thank you Moemoney for answering me. Is it really these first painting that we have to look at ? [Link from unapproved source]

     

    Sorry but the links and screenshots for confirmation do not pass.

    If you still want to help me, I leave you my email (*mod edit - not allowed*) and if you answer me, I could send you the screenshots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Quote Originally Posted by girondin:

    Hello It's been a few days since I came across this discussion which I find interesting but unfortunately for me, I understand nothing about the lines of VEGASINDER. I wish I could do my analysis myself without having to wait for someone to post something. So if one of you or you, RED, could explain the basics to me, I will be grateful. Thank you and good luck with your choices.
      What you want to do is find the games in the NCAAB tab on the bottom. Normally the little "window" will tell you the opening odds, current odds and % of bets. From there you can already get a good glimpse of what is moving favorably for this method.  So let's say you see a game you like where the odds moved in your favor. Click into Line Movements and it'll show you the line movement throughout the day. Also, click into BT movement (Betting Trends) to see the trend. You'll want to make sure the betting trend % are not spontaneous though like 75% to 25% then to 50% then back up to 75% and down and up...you want something stable.  Hope that helps a little.
    Thank you Moemoney for answering me. Is it really these first painting that we have to look at ? [Link from unapproved source]

     

    Sorry but the links and screenshots for confirmation do not pass.

    If you still want to help me, I leave you my email (*mod edit - not allowed*) and if you answer me, I could send you the screenshots.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 1:19 PM ET #290

    North Dakota, South Dakota , Santa Clara, sac st, unc Asheville, Central conn, Hampton, and maybe st Francis and Kennesaw state.. All games I'm keeping my eye on. Central conn is one of absolute worst teams so I usually try to steer away from them 

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    North Dakota, South Dakota , Santa Clara, sac st, unc Asheville, Central conn, Hampton, and maybe st Francis and Kennesaw state.. All games I'm keeping my eye on. Central conn is one of absolute worst teams so I usually try to steer away from them 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 1:35 PM ET #291

    Quote Originally Posted by redtear2989:

    North Dakota, South Dakota , Santa Clara, sac st, unc Asheville, Central conn, Hampton, and maybe st Francis and Kennesaw state.. All games I'm keeping my eye on. Central conn is one of absolute worst teams so I usually try to steer away from them

     

    The line movement in North Dakota and SD seems starndard to me? They are favored getting most of the best and the line is getting larger. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. Thanks again Red and let us know if you find any plays!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtear2989:

    North Dakota, South Dakota , Santa Clara, sac st, unc Asheville, Central conn, Hampton, and maybe st Francis and Kennesaw state.. All games I'm keeping my eye on. Central conn is one of absolute worst teams so I usually try to steer away from them

     

    The line movement in North Dakota and SD seems starndard to me? They are favored getting most of the best and the line is getting larger. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. Thanks again Red and let us know if you find any plays!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 3:01 PM ET #292

    Played UNC Asheville small as everything seems to fit. Would be a larger play but they don’t seem to seem to be the best home court team. 
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    Played UNC Asheville small as everything seems to fit. Would be a larger play but they don’t seem to seem to be the best home court team. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 4:38 PM ET #293

    Leaning only sac st right now

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    Leaning only sac st right now

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 6:00 PM ET #294

    Just as a word of warning to you all, the VegasInsider betting percentages seem to be out today.  For example using the Covers Scores and Matchups to compare with Red's potential Sac State team you can see that there are around 70% on Sac State.

    VegasInsider shows 20%.

    Pretty large discrepancy!

    I always compare the two (VegasInsider and Covers) and usually they are reasonably close. But not today.

    I don't want to see anyone lose $ unnecessarily. This technique backing reverse line movement home dogs works well....really well. But you need to make sure that it is actually reverse line movement and in this case for Sac State I think it's just normal line movement with wrong betting % data on VegasInsider making it look like reverse.

    Good luck. Thanks Red for all you have done peace_5.

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    Just as a word of warning to you all, the VegasInsider betting percentages seem to be out today.  For example using the Covers Scores and Matchups to compare with Red's potential Sac State team you can see that there are around 70% on Sac State.

    VegasInsider shows 20%.

    Pretty large discrepancy!

    I always compare the two (VegasInsider and Covers) and usually they are reasonably close. But not today.

    I don't want to see anyone lose $ unnecessarily. This technique backing reverse line movement home dogs works well....really well. But you need to make sure that it is actually reverse line movement and in this case for Sac State I think it's just normal line movement with wrong betting % data on VegasInsider making it look like reverse.

    Good luck. Thanks Red for all you have done peace_5.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 8:09 PM ET #295

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Dundee:

    Just as a word of warning to you all, the VegasInsider betting percentages seem to be out today.  For example using the Covers Scores and Matchups to compare with Red's potential Sac State team you can see that there are around 70% on Sac State. VegasInsider shows 20%. Pretty large discrepancy! I always compare the two (VegasInsider and Covers) and usually they are reasonably close. But not today. I don't want to see anyone lose $ unnecessarily. This technique backing reverse line movement home dogs works well....really well. But you need to make sure that it is actually reverse line movement and in this case for Sac State I think it's just normal line movement with wrong betting % data on VegasInsider making it look like reverse. Good luck. Thanks Red for all you have done .

    Correct me if I'm wrong but don't ever look at the % on Covers. Those are consensus picks not tickets or dollars bet. It's literally people just selecting which team they think will cover. There is no use in looking at those numbers for this model.

    Again, please correct me if I'm wrong but that is how I interpret the Covers #s. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Dundee:

    Just as a word of warning to you all, the VegasInsider betting percentages seem to be out today.  For example using the Covers Scores and Matchups to compare with Red's potential Sac State team you can see that there are around 70% on Sac State. VegasInsider shows 20%. Pretty large discrepancy! I always compare the two (VegasInsider and Covers) and usually they are reasonably close. But not today. I don't want to see anyone lose $ unnecessarily. This technique backing reverse line movement home dogs works well....really well. But you need to make sure that it is actually reverse line movement and in this case for Sac State I think it's just normal line movement with wrong betting % data on VegasInsider making it look like reverse. Good luck. Thanks Red for all you have done .

    Correct me if I'm wrong but don't ever look at the % on Covers. Those are consensus picks not tickets or dollars bet. It's literally people just selecting which team they think will cover. There is no use in looking at those numbers for this model.

    Again, please correct me if I'm wrong but that is how I interpret the Covers #s. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 9:34 PM ET #296

    Welp did a round Robin parlay on all those games playing every combination, hopes it pays off! Officially no play tho, not enough confidence in any single game to put anyone's money at risk.

    BOL! 

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    Welp did a round Robin parlay on all those games playing every combination, hopes it pays off! Officially no play tho, not enough confidence in any single game to put anyone's money at risk.

    BOL! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2020 - 9:52 PM ET #297

    Played Sac St. Liked the RLM and seems like a bit more money is coming in on Port St. close to tip-off with no movement. A good 71% on Portland St and line moves 1 pt in total. 

    We'll see how it plays out.

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    Played Sac St. Liked the RLM and seems like a bit more money is coming in on Port St. close to tip-off with no movement. A good 71% on Portland St and line moves 1 pt in total. 

    We'll see how it plays out.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2020 - 2:02 AM ET #298

    Early but Brown looking good for tomorrow. 
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    Early but Brown looking good for tomorrow. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2020 - 8:56 AM ET #299

    Followed three games last night that fit the script:

    Sac State - won

    Arkansas State - won

    UNC Ashville - won

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    Followed three games last night that fit the script:

    Sac State - won

    Arkansas State - won

    UNC Ashville - won

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkotter:

    Followed three games last night that fit the script:

    Sac State - won

    Arkansas State - won

    UNC Ashville - won


    Didn't the Northeastern game fit as well? RLM. More bets on Drexel. Line still went up a point on NE. Line ended -8.5 and NE won by 30+.... I do believe in this system with other variables like shooting percentage etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkotter:

    Followed three games last night that fit the script:

    Sac State - won

    Arkansas State - won

    UNC Ashville - won


    Didn't the Northeastern game fit as well? RLM. More bets on Drexel. Line still went up a point on NE. Line ended -8.5 and NE won by 30+.... I do believe in this system with other variables like shooting percentage etc....
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