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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2020 - 7:43 PM ET #426

    Providence moving back and forth too. Looks like  pretty good % tho

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    Providence moving back and forth too. Looks like  pretty good % tho

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2020 - 12:28 PM ET #427

    Any thoughts on Dayton VCU Under Red? Made a small play. Opened 145 70% on O and total fell to 143. 
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    Any thoughts on Dayton VCU Under Red? Made a small play. Opened 145 70% on O and total fell to 143. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2020 - 12:38 PM ET #428

    New Mexico worth a look tonight

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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2020 - 3:55 PM ET #429

    OU  +3  Line opened with Baylor -3.5 and now -3 even tho 79% wagers and 75% money on Baylor.....

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    OU  +3  Line opened with Baylor -3.5 and now -3 even tho 79% wagers and 75% money on Baylor.....

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2020 - 5:58 PM ET #430

    So Far I see Oklahoma , New Mexico, UNLV, Western Michigan, And Ohio That All Fits Teh System

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    So Far I see Oklahoma , New Mexico, UNLV, Western Michigan, And Ohio That All Fits Teh System

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2020 - 6:11 PM ET #431

    Quote Originally Posted by Vonn_luciano:

    So Far I see Oklahoma , New Mexico, UNLV, Western Michigan, And Ohio That All Fits Teh System

     

    OU and WMU seem like the best 2 plays for this system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonn_luciano:

    So Far I see Oklahoma , New Mexico, UNLV, Western Michigan, And Ohio That All Fits Teh System

     

    OU and WMU seem like the best 2 plays for this system

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 2:02 PM ET #432

    Some quick ones I found today...no research or deep dive done...

    Indiana St (Home dog), Dexel (Home dog) Liberty (Home Fav), New Hampshire (Home Fav), New Jersey Tech (Home fav), Colorado (Home Fav)

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    Some quick ones I found today...no research or deep dive done...

    Indiana St (Home dog), Dexel (Home dog) Liberty (Home Fav), New Hampshire (Home Fav), New Jersey Tech (Home fav), Colorado (Home Fav)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 2:55 PM ET #433

    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Some quick ones I found today...no research or deep dive done... Indiana St (Home dog), Dexel (Home dog) Liberty (Home Fav), New Hampshire (Home Fav), New Jersey Tech (Home fav), Colorado (Home Fav)

    Good eye! am trying to find anything with over 1 Pt of movement, currently like Indiana St the best as of right now! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Some quick ones I found today...no research or deep dive done... Indiana St (Home dog), Dexel (Home dog) Liberty (Home Fav), New Hampshire (Home Fav), New Jersey Tech (Home fav), Colorado (Home Fav)

    Good eye! am trying to find anything with over 1 Pt of movement, currently like Indiana St the best as of right now! 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 3:04 PM ET #434

    Excellent insight  much appreciated GLclover redtearpeace_5

    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Excellent insight  much appreciated GLclover redtearpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 3:11 PM ET #435

    Quote Originally Posted by redtear2989:

    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Some quick ones I found today...no research or deep dive done... Indiana St (Home dog), Dexel (Home dog) Liberty (Home Fav), New Hampshire (Home Fav), New Jersey Tech (Home fav), Colorado (Home Fav)
    Good eye! am trying to find anything with over 1 Pt of movement, currently like Indiana St the best as of right now!

    NJIT has moved a point. 2 very similar teams according to KenPom. Might be worth a shot to take a look at

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtear2989:

    Quote Originally Posted by moemoney:

    Some quick ones I found today...no research or deep dive done... Indiana St (Home dog), Dexel (Home dog) Liberty (Home Fav), New Hampshire (Home Fav), New Jersey Tech (Home fav), Colorado (Home Fav)
    Good eye! am trying to find anything with over 1 Pt of movement, currently like Indiana St the best as of right now!

    NJIT has moved a point. 2 very similar teams according to KenPom. Might be worth a shot to take a look at

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 4:13 PM ET #436

    Not sure how I missed this one...

    Temple from +1.5 to -1. Currently sits at 63% on UCONN and more on UCONN ML. The betting trends seems to have been slightly going back and forth but majority throughout the day was on UCONN. an_light

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    Not sure how I missed this one...

    Temple from +1.5 to -1. Currently sits at 63% on UCONN and more on UCONN ML. The betting trends seems to have been slightly going back and forth but majority throughout the day was on UCONN. an_light

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 4:47 PM ET #437

    I've got mixed feelings on UConn-Temple.  That's one I first noticed last night.  UConn is 1-7 on the road, and Temple has beaten some of the best teams in the American at home in Wichita State and SMU... SMU after losing to them by 16 on the road, a similar scoring differential to their 15 point loss at UConn.

    On the other hand (curious what Red's feelings are on this) I've grown to distrust games such as this that flip almost immediately after opening.  I prefer lines that hold for the most part and gradually drop as we get closer to tip.

    Also worth noting that while Temple flipped to -1 and has held there, the money line has dropped from an opener of -120 to -115 for the Owls, while the UConn money line has moved from +100 to -105 (Vegas consensus).

    In games that are close to a PK, I've speculated the books might move lines back and forth across zero to attract money on both sides.  Will be interesting to see if this crosses back in the next couple of hours or if it holds.

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    I've got mixed feelings on UConn-Temple.  That's one I first noticed last night.  UConn is 1-7 on the road, and Temple has beaten some of the best teams in the American at home in Wichita State and SMU... SMU after losing to them by 16 on the road, a similar scoring differential to their 15 point loss at UConn.

    On the other hand (curious what Red's feelings are on this) I've grown to distrust games such as this that flip almost immediately after opening.  I prefer lines that hold for the most part and gradually drop as we get closer to tip.

    Also worth noting that while Temple flipped to -1 and has held there, the money line has dropped from an opener of -120 to -115 for the Owls, while the UConn money line has moved from +100 to -105 (Vegas consensus).

    In games that are close to a PK, I've speculated the books might move lines back and forth across zero to attract money on both sides.  Will be interesting to see if this crosses back in the next couple of hours or if it holds.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 5:00 PM ET #438

    Uconn is away so I think you guys already know my thoughts on that! I do like what I see on kenpom they match up well maybe even better and kicked temples teeth in in storrs

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    Uconn is away so I think you guys already know my thoughts on that! I do like what I see on kenpom they match up well maybe even better and kicked temples teeth in in storrs

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 5:07 PM ET #439

    Oops thought you guys were talking about playing uconn, And caps right the spike in the line movement happened before some of us even went to bed last night. The score when they play in Connecticut has me a little apprehensive, at Publix right now tho so haven't done much more research. Will look more when I get home 

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    Oops thought you guys were talking about playing uconn, And caps right the spike in the line movement happened before some of us even went to bed last night. The score when they play in Connecticut has me a little apprehensive, at Publix right now tho so haven't done much more research. Will look more when I get home 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2020 - 5:33 PM ET #440

    Hofstra started -5 and 86% wagers & 86% money on Hofstra.  Line is now Hof -4.5

    Drex +4.5

     

     

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    Hofstra started -5 and 86% wagers & 86% money on Hofstra.  Line is now Hof -4.5

    Drex +4.5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2020 - 10:28 AM ET #441

    How we looking today Red?
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2020 - 10:58 PM ET #442

    So after tightening up this system I've noticed  a HUGE difference in hit rate.  After going on a 4-9 run I decided to tighten my range and its paid dividends.  By this I mean I'm looking for a MINIMUM of 1.5 pts of movement.  It's resulted in less plays but is currently going like 9-2 with the two losses being a 7pt favorite (stick to homedogs when you can) and Delaware which only had .5-1pt of movement but I liked everything I saw on kenpom, sometimes this system is smarter than I am.  There were even 2 (Cornell & SE Louisiana) that I passed on cause I just couldn't pull the trigger that hit.

    Not trying to toot my own horn just trying to make a point.  If you're going to follow this more or less blindly just tighten up and look for AT LEAST 1.5 pts of movement.

    Also I think its tough to get truly accurate info on %s so I use two different sites that sometimes differ so I look for them both the line up and say the samething.  Those sites are sportsinsights and scoresandodds. I've found comparing the two sites to be incredibly helpful.

    Hope everyone finishes this season strong!!

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    So after tightening up this system I've noticed  a HUGE difference in hit rate.  After going on a 4-9 run I decided to tighten my range and its paid dividends.  By this I mean I'm looking for a MINIMUM of 1.5 pts of movement.  It's resulted in less plays but is currently going like 9-2 with the two losses being a 7pt favorite (stick to homedogs when you can) and Delaware which only had .5-1pt of movement but I liked everything I saw on kenpom, sometimes this system is smarter than I am.  There were even 2 (Cornell & SE Louisiana) that I passed on cause I just couldn't pull the trigger that hit.

    Not trying to toot my own horn just trying to make a point.  If you're going to follow this more or less blindly just tighten up and look for AT LEAST 1.5 pts of movement.

    Also I think its tough to get truly accurate info on %s so I use two different sites that sometimes differ so I look for them both the line up and say the samething.  Those sites are sportsinsights and scoresandodds. I've found comparing the two sites to be incredibly helpful.

    Hope everyone finishes this season strong!!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2020 - 11:45 PM ET #443

    Those charts on sportsinsights are great.  I hadn't seen those before.  The % data is appears to be the same as Action Network (which would make sense, since Chernin Group bought and merged the two).

    I've been using VI, SI, and Action Network.  I've been really annoyed by Action Network not having any form of "trend" view, though, and had been resorting to saving the page as a PDF a few times a day to create me own (duct-tape) version of one.

    Gonna start looking at the two together going forward.  Thanks for sharing, Red!

     

     

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    Those charts on sportsinsights are great.  I hadn't seen those before.  The % data is appears to be the same as Action Network (which would make sense, since Chernin Group bought and merged the two).

    I've been using VI, SI, and Action Network.  I've been really annoyed by Action Network not having any form of "trend" view, though, and had been resorting to saving the page as a PDF a few times a day to create me own (duct-tape) version of one.

    Gonna start looking at the two together going forward.  Thanks for sharing, Red!

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappital:

    Those charts on sportsinsights are great.  I hadn't seen those before.  The % data is appears to be the same as Action Network (which would make sense, since Chernin Group bought and merged the two). I've been using VI, SI, and Action Network.  I've been really annoyed by Action Network not having any form of "trend" view, though, and had been resorting to saving the page as a PDF a few times a day to create me own (duct-tape) version of one. Gonna start looking at the two together going forward.  Thanks for sharing, Red!
    Wait what charts?! I just look the list of games with %s lol, is that something you pay for? And yea AN and SI always seem the be completely insync, that's why I like cross referencing with Scoresandodds. I think waiting for heavy rlm and crossing the two sites has helped a ton this past week. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappital:

    Those charts on sportsinsights are great.  I hadn't seen those before.  The % data is appears to be the same as Action Network (which would make sense, since Chernin Group bought and merged the two). I've been using VI, SI, and Action Network.  I've been really annoyed by Action Network not having any form of "trend" view, though, and had been resorting to saving the page as a PDF a few times a day to create me own (duct-tape) version of one. Gonna start looking at the two together going forward.  Thanks for sharing, Red!
    Wait what charts?! I just look the list of games with %s lol, is that something you pay for? And yea AN and SI always seem the be completely insync, that's why I like cross referencing with Scoresandodds. I think waiting for heavy rlm and crossing the two sites has helped a ton this past week. 

     
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     I cross reference sportsinsights with scores and odds as well; gives a truer picture of %'s I think and narrows the number of qualifying plays. Looking forward to applying this to CFB come September and also going to track it for baseball this season since I can't pick my a*se in that sport.  peace_5

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     I cross reference sportsinsights with scores and odds as well; gives a truer picture of %'s I think and narrows the number of qualifying plays. Looking forward to applying this to CFB come September and also going to track it for baseball this season since I can't pick my a*se in that sport.  peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by redtear2989:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cappital:

    Those charts on sportsinsights are great.  I hadn't seen those before.  The % data is appears to be the same as Action Network (which would make sense, since Chernin Group bought and merged the two). I've been using VI, SI, and Action Network.  I've been really annoyed by Action Network not having any form of "trend" view, though, and had been resorting to saving the page as a PDF a few times a day to create me own (duct-tape) version of one. Gonna start looking at the two together going forward.  Thanks for sharing, Red!
    Wait what charts?! I just look the list of games with %s lol, is that something you pay for? And yea AN and SI always seem the be completely insync, that's why I like cross referencing with Scoresandodds. I think waiting for heavy rlm and crossing the two sites has helped a ton this past week.

    Ha - I just stumbled onto them.  On the desktop version of the site, click... free trends at the top > NCAA Basketball Trends.  Running down the page there's the list of games and ticket %.  The right-most column has charts with line graphs for spread movement overlayed onto area graphs showing ticket % over time.  Nice little visualization... my eyes glaze over sometimes looking at trend data on VI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappital:

    Those charts on sportsinsights are great.  I hadn't seen those before.  The % data is appears to be the same as Action Network (which would make sense, since Chernin Group bought and merged the two). I've been using VI, SI, and Action Network.  I've been really annoyed by Action Network not having any form of "trend" view, though, and had been resorting to saving the page as a PDF a few times a day to create me own (duct-tape) version of one. Gonna start looking at the two together going forward.  Thanks for sharing, Red!
    Wait what charts?! I just look the list of games with %s lol, is that something you pay for? And yea AN and SI always seem the be completely insync, that's why I like cross referencing with Scoresandodds. I think waiting for heavy rlm and crossing the two sites has helped a ton this past week.

    Ha - I just stumbled onto them.  On the desktop version of the site, click... free trends at the top > NCAA Basketball Trends.  Running down the page there's the list of games and ticket %.  The right-most column has charts with line graphs for spread movement overlayed onto area graphs showing ticket % over time.  Nice little visualization... my eyes glaze over sometimes looking at trend data on VI.

     
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    KSU/Baylor - Line opened Bay -15.5 - Most of wagers and money on Bay and line is now Bay -14

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    KSU/Baylor - Line opened Bay -15.5 - Most of wagers and money on Bay and line is now Bay -14   KSU  +14

    What site or service do you use to find your % of m ok money coming in on.. just curious trying to find best one. Thank you

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    KSU/Baylor - Line opened Bay -15.5 - Most of wagers and money on Bay and line is now Bay -14   KSU  +14

    What site or service do you use to find your % of m ok money coming in on.. just curious trying to find best one. Thank you

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna2312:

    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    KSU/Baylor - Line opened Bay -15.5 - Most of wagers and money on Bay and line is now Bay -14   KSU  +14
    What site or service do you use to find your % of m ok money coming in on.. just curious trying to find best one. Thank you

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna2312:

    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    KSU/Baylor - Line opened Bay -15.5 - Most of wagers and money on Bay and line is now Bay -14   KSU  +14
    What site or service do you use to find your % of m ok money coming in on.. just curious trying to find best one. Thank you

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna2312:

    Quote Originally Posted by CrushinBooks:

    KSU/Baylor - Line opened Bay -15.5 - Most of wagers and money on Bay and line is now Bay -14   KSU  +14
    What site or service do you use to find your % of m ok money coming in on.. just curious trying to find best one. Thank you
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    Ok cool thanks 

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    KSU/Baylor - Line opened Bay -15.5 - Most of wagers and money on Bay and line is now Bay -14   KSU  +14
    What site or service do you use to find your % of m ok money coming in on.. just curious trying to find best one. Thank you
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