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    RLeith35
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 4:30 PM ET #1951

    Do u have any NCAAB plays going today?
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    Do u have any NCAAB plays going today?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 5:15 PM ET #1952

    Hey Peeps - Sorry about last night - close one - but a loss is a loss nonetheless.  I am 10-4 with these system plays I have going.  Got one for tonight.

    --- KENT ST. NORTHERN ILL (OVER 29 First 10 MINUTES - Good value here +100 -- I have it capped at 32.5 to 33 --- Should hit!! Putting 3 UNITS on this one (1 UNIT = 100 duckets)

    Good luck as always Peace 

    BOOYATEE!!
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    Hey Peeps - Sorry about last night - close one - but a loss is a loss nonetheless.  I am 10-4 with these system plays I have going.  Got one for tonight.

    --- KENT ST. NORTHERN ILL (OVER 29 First 10 MINUTES - Good value here +100 -- I have it capped at 32.5 to 33 --- Should hit!! Putting 3 UNITS on this one (1 UNIT = 100 duckets)

    Good luck as always Peace 

    BOOYATEE!!
     
    BooTee
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 5:30 PM ET #1953

    Quote Originally Posted by BooTee:

    Hey Peeps - Sorry about last night - close one - but a loss is a loss nonetheless.  I am 10-4 with these system plays I have going.  Got one for tonight.

    --- KENT ST. NORTHERN ILL (OVER 29 First 10 MINUTES - Good value here +100 -- I have it capped at 32.5 to 33 --- Should hit!! Putting 3 UNITS on this one (1 UNIT = 100 duckets)

    Adding --- IOWA ST. KANSAS (OVER 36 First 10 MINUTES - 120)  have this one capped at 39 - 5 UNITS on this one!

    Good luck as always Peace 

    BOOYATEE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooTee:

    Hey Peeps - Sorry about last night - close one - but a loss is a loss nonetheless.  I am 10-4 with these system plays I have going.  Got one for tonight.

    --- KENT ST. NORTHERN ILL (OVER 29 First 10 MINUTES - Good value here +100 -- I have it capped at 32.5 to 33 --- Should hit!! Putting 3 UNITS on this one (1 UNIT = 100 duckets)

    Adding --- IOWA ST. KANSAS (OVER 36 First 10 MINUTES - 120)  have this one capped at 39 - 5 UNITS on this one!

    Good luck as always Peace 

    BOOYATEE!!
     
    stevo1
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 5:55 PM ET #1954

    guys look at this from my post on 12/26 this year for NBA and look at the record now(page#600 back in thread)

    Posted: 12/26/2013 10:34:43 AM
    so what have we learned from NBA is the following

    teams on a 5-0 win streak you play them to not cover their next game. RECORD is 8-4 they will not cover (67%)
    ______________________________________
    Teams on a 0-6 no cover streak you play to cover their next GAME Cur Record is 5-1 they will cover at 83%

    One problem is we don't have any teams at 0-6 YET
    the closest we have is
    0-4 Nets
    0-4 Portland
    also we do not have any at 5-0 yet but we do have
    4-0 
    Pacers
    need to watch these teams reach levels we need

    and what are the current records as of today 1/29/14

    5-0 win streaks to stop as of today are  11-9
    5-0 win streaks to stop as of 12/26 were 8-4
    look at difference where they stand  today 3-5 dif from 12/26 a month ago which shows odds makers are doing a better job a month later than they were back in early december
    It has gone from 83% down now to 55% and why NBA has no plays of late
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    guys look at this from my post on 12/26 this year for NBA and look at the record now(page#600 back in thread)

    Posted: 12/26/2013 10:34:43 AM
    so what have we learned from NBA is the following

    teams on a 5-0 win streak you play them to not cover their next game. RECORD is 8-4 they will not cover (67%)
    ______________________________________
    Teams on a 0-6 no cover streak you play to cover their next GAME Cur Record is 5-1 they will cover at 83%

    One problem is we don't have any teams at 0-6 YET
    the closest we have is
    0-4 Nets
    0-4 Portland
    also we do not have any at 5-0 yet but we do have
    4-0 
    Pacers
    need to watch these teams reach levels we need

    and what are the current records as of today 1/29/14

    5-0 win streaks to stop as of today are  11-9
    5-0 win streaks to stop as of 12/26 were 8-4
    look at difference where they stand  today 3-5 dif from 12/26 a month ago which shows odds makers are doing a better job a month later than they were back in early december
    It has gone from 83% down now to 55% and why NBA has no plays of late
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:00 PM ET #1955

    @Bootee Interesting..the last time these two played the halftime score was 30-30, which coorelates to a 15-15 score at the 10:00 mark.
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    @Bootee Interesting..the last time these two played the halftime score was 30-30, which coorelates to a 15-15 score at the 10:00 mark.
     
    stevo1
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:02 PM ET #1956

    No plays today in ncaab but i'm trying a small parlay Mix of games for a few bucks


    730 to cover
    742 to cover
    759 to cover
    #52 Islanders to win
    #56 Vancouver to win
     will they all cover ?? prob not but willing to give it a try as we have our Biggie coming on 30th (break open those piggy banks boys)

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    No plays today in ncaab but i'm trying a small parlay Mix of games for a few bucks


    730 to cover
    742 to cover
    759 to cover
    #52 Islanders to win
    #56 Vancouver to win
     will they all cover ?? prob not but willing to give it a try as we have our Biggie coming on 30th (break open those piggy banks boys)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:16 PM ET #1957

    need to correct that NBA fiasco i just posted

    on 12/26 0-6 loss streak teams record to cover was 5-1 83% and currently the record is 6-7,,,that is a total reversal of 1-6 in one month of of plays and almost a 100% odds makers turn around record

    Likewise 5-0 win streaks to not cover  were 8-4  67% and as of today it is at 11-9 55% and the reason we have no NBA plays today
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    need to correct that NBA fiasco i just posted

    on 12/26 0-6 loss streak teams record to cover was 5-1 83% and currently the record is 6-7,,,that is a total reversal of 1-6 in one month of of plays and almost a 100% odds makers turn around record

    Likewise 5-0 win streaks to not cover  were 8-4  67% and as of today it is at 11-9 55% and the reason we have no NBA plays today
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:20 PM ET #1958

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:


    look at difference where they stand  today 3-5 dif from 12/26 a month ago which shows odds makers are doing a better job a month later than they were back in early december
    It has gone from 83% down now to 55% and why NBA has no plays of late

    Sample size far too small to make that assumption.  You'd need dozens, if not hundreds, of games plays to make the determination that "odd makers" are somehow reacting to all of our small penny-ante bets.

    Yes penny-ante.  

    The total betting power of this thread is likely between $25k and $200k on these games, tops.  And that's being generous. 

    Meanwhile the nationwide bets on each individual NCAAB game are estimated to be between $10M-$20M wagered, per game, per day.

    The "books are on to us" is just paranoia after a single bad beat.

    Keep doing what you're doing, back test your systems to previous years if you have the time, get that sample size up into the 100's-of-games, and you'll see the real picture.  THEN it will be ready to take into a software program, which I can help you with.

    For now, not enough data to make any conclusions.  Keep doin what you're doin, you are awesome to manaully handle the load, appreciate it greatly. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:


    look at difference where they stand  today 3-5 dif from 12/26 a month ago which shows odds makers are doing a better job a month later than they were back in early december
    It has gone from 83% down now to 55% and why NBA has no plays of late

    Sample size far too small to make that assumption.  You'd need dozens, if not hundreds, of games plays to make the determination that "odd makers" are somehow reacting to all of our small penny-ante bets.

    Yes penny-ante.  

    The total betting power of this thread is likely between $25k and $200k on these games, tops.  And that's being generous. 

    Meanwhile the nationwide bets on each individual NCAAB game are estimated to be between $10M-$20M wagered, per game, per day.

    The "books are on to us" is just paranoia after a single bad beat.

    Keep doing what you're doing, back test your systems to previous years if you have the time, get that sample size up into the 100's-of-games, and you'll see the real picture.  THEN it will be ready to take into a software program, which I can help you with.

    For now, not enough data to make any conclusions.  Keep doin what you're doin, you are awesome to manaully handle the load, appreciate it greatly. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:23 PM ET #1959

    Everyone needs a software developed for games. Where do I find one or how to make one? Also I think this system is ready for that. BOL
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    Everyone needs a software developed for games. Where do I find one or how to make one? Also I think this system is ready for that. BOL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:32 PM ET #1960

    i have the last 5 years records and back up together and the record are almost identical fron previous years at same time frames so i disagree with you assumption as # of games are too small as the season goes forward will the #'s naturally but i try and plays streaks at same time slots as previous years as posted back in thread
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    i have the last 5 years records and back up together and the record are almost identical fron previous years at same time frames so i disagree with you assumption as # of games are too small as the season goes forward will the #'s naturally but i try and plays streaks at same time slots as previous years as posted back in thread
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:36 PM ET #1961

    I also like to monitor how streak records progress or not progress and how odds makers correct their point spreads 

    and to turn a 5-1 win streak back to to 6-7 record says something to me and a lot easier to do with Pro NBA than a NCAAB group of 20 Year olds more interested in getting LAID than collect 5 mil as a NBA player although dream of that day
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    I also like to monitor how streak records progress or not progress and how odds makers correct their point spreads 

    and to turn a 5-1 win streak back to to 6-7 record says something to me and a lot easier to do with Pro NBA than a NCAAB group of 20 Year olds more interested in getting LAID than collect 5 mil as a NBA player although dream of that day
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:45 PM ET #1962

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    i have the last 5 years records and back up together and the record are almost identical fron previous years at same time frames so i disagree with you assumption as # of games are too small as the season goes forward will the #'s naturally but i try and plays streaks at same time slots as previous years as posted back in thread

    Ah, that's far better. In your post you only indicated a sample size of just this season, and less than 20 total games at that. Under that small sample size there's no disagreement between us: It would be far too little to draw a conclusion on and certainly no action would need to be taken.

    BUT...if you're looking at a much larger span of games than you posted, then assumptions could absolutely be made about the books adjusting. 

    What is your total sample size for NCAAB/NBA? And thanks again for the work, can't say it enough. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    i have the last 5 years records and back up together and the record are almost identical fron previous years at same time frames so i disagree with you assumption as # of games are too small as the season goes forward will the #'s naturally but i try and plays streaks at same time slots as previous years as posted back in thread

    Ah, that's far better. In your post you only indicated a sample size of just this season, and less than 20 total games at that. Under that small sample size there's no disagreement between us: It would be far too little to draw a conclusion on and certainly no action would need to be taken.

    BUT...if you're looking at a much larger span of games than you posted, then assumptions could absolutely be made about the books adjusting. 

    What is your total sample size for NCAAB/NBA? And thanks again for the work, can't say it enough. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 6:56 PM ET #1963


    This is how the records were at same time as last year
    Posted: 1/24/2014 6:41:46 PM
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    Went back to CONFIRM win streak records for 2012/13 to 
    NOT COVER in Ncaab

    11-0 streak 0-1 St Louis        last to not cover  3/06/13
    10-0 streak 1-1 Appalach st  last to not cover  1/17/13
     9-0 streak  1-2 Geor town    last to not cover  2/27/13
     8-0 streak  5-3 Samford       last to not cover  3/08/13
     7-0 streak   8-8 Miss st         last to not cover   2/09/13
     6-0 streak 18-16 San fran    last to not cover   2/14/13
     5-0 streak  21-34 Cornell      last to not cover   2/22/13
     4-0 streak  84-55 Cal Poly    last to not cover   2/20/13

    Odds makers record to stop all streaks 138 no covers vs 120 covers

    2012/2013 Loss streaks to cover

    0-10 streak    1-0 IUPUI         last to cover 12/23/12
     0-9 streak     2-1 Ole Dom    last to cover 2/07/13
     0-8 streak     3-3 Port St       last to cover 2/18/13
     0-7 streak     6-6 Utah St      last to cover 1/31/13
     0-6 streak  15-12 Oregon      last to cover 2/13/13
     0-5 streak  33-27 S Carolina last to cover 2/16/13
     0-4 streak  63-64 Wash St    last to cover 2/16/13

    Just a review from last year how things are playing out to date 
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    This is how the records were at same time as last year
    Posted: 1/24/2014 6:41:46 PM
    Page 608 

    Went back to CONFIRM win streak records for 2012/13 to 
    NOT COVER in Ncaab

    11-0 streak 0-1 St Louis        last to not cover  3/06/13
    10-0 streak 1-1 Appalach st  last to not cover  1/17/13
     9-0 streak  1-2 Geor town    last to not cover  2/27/13
     8-0 streak  5-3 Samford       last to not cover  3/08/13
     7-0 streak   8-8 Miss st         last to not cover   2/09/13
     6-0 streak 18-16 San fran    last to not cover   2/14/13
     5-0 streak  21-34 Cornell      last to not cover   2/22/13
     4-0 streak  84-55 Cal Poly    last to not cover   2/20/13

    Odds makers record to stop all streaks 138 no covers vs 120 covers

    2012/2013 Loss streaks to cover

    0-10 streak    1-0 IUPUI         last to cover 12/23/12
     0-9 streak     2-1 Ole Dom    last to cover 2/07/13
     0-8 streak     3-3 Port St       last to cover 2/18/13
     0-7 streak     6-6 Utah St      last to cover 1/31/13
     0-6 streak  15-12 Oregon      last to cover 2/13/13
     0-5 streak  33-27 S Carolina last to cover 2/16/13
     0-4 streak  63-64 Wash St    last to cover 2/16/13

    Just a review from last year how things are playing out to date 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 7:02 PM ET #1964

    this was the final records at close of 2013 season and sheds some light what to expect in last month of season in comparison of last year 

    Nothing is fool proof but gives you a feel of what to expect and i have past years also but i think last years reflects same team group to most degree as mix changes the farther you go back and also has an effect of results
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    this was the final records at close of 2013 season and sheds some light what to expect in last month of season in comparison of last year 

    Nothing is fool proof but gives you a feel of what to expect and i have past years also but i think last years reflects same team group to most degree as mix changes the farther you go back and also has an effect of results
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 7:19 PM ET #1965

    Maco -CV 

    these records are the total results of millions of wagers made on these streak teams,Do not think this apply's to just covers group,,,,and the odds makers ability to balance out these plays as actually is a record of how their line placement record is on every game they posted for season
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    Maco -CV 

    these records are the total results of millions of wagers made on these streak teams,Do not think this apply's to just covers group,,,,and the odds makers ability to balance out these plays as actually is a record of how their line placement record is on every game they posted for season
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 7:27 PM ET #1966

    just one small sample last year level 4

     0-4 streak  63-64 Wash St    last to cover 2/16/13 (1) diff

    0-4 this year to date 53-47 win streaks to date (6) diff

    that equates we will see another 12 0-4 loss streaks by seasons end and approx and 17 additional win streaks by seasons end that will have stopped


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    just one small sample last year level 4

     0-4 streak  63-64 Wash St    last to cover 2/16/13 (1) diff

    0-4 this year to date 53-47 win streaks to date (6) diff

    that equates we will see another 12 0-4 loss streaks by seasons end and approx and 17 additional win streaks by seasons end that will have stopped


     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 7:41 PM ET #1967

    sorry i did not post that correctly

     2013 season record 0-4 streak  63-64

    2014 to date record 0-4 streak 53-47

    that suggests we should still see (27) 10-17 
    more streak plays occur 10 covers and 17 no covers
    time will tell

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    sorry i did not post that correctly

     2013 season record 0-4 streak  63-64

    2014 to date record 0-4 streak 53-47

    that suggests we should still see (27) 10-17 
    more streak plays occur 10 covers and 17 no covers
    time will tell

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 8:07 PM ET #1968

    what that also reflects is a 63 % probability that the next 0-4 streak team will not cover if based on last years records compared to this years record at 53 %

    funny we have 4,,, 0-4 streak teams playing tonight so it will not be long to see how they do
    N Iowa
    Ohio St
    Iowa St
    San Clara
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    what that also reflects is a 63 % probability that the next 0-4 streak team will not cover if based on last years records compared to this years record at 53 %

    funny we have 4,,, 0-4 streak teams playing tonight so it will not be long to see how they do
    N Iowa
    Ohio St
    Iowa St
    San Clara
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 8:12 PM ET #1969

    Ohio St already appears to be in trouble giving 13 at half time up 4 


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    Ohio St already appears to be in trouble giving 13 at half time up 4 


     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 8:20 PM ET #1970

    Appears Bill and Mary have been fooling around and not paying attention to ncaab 
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    Appears Bill and Mary have been fooling around and not paying attention to ncaab 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 9:13 PM ET #1971

    730 to cover
    742 to coverdamnnn bill leave her alone
    759 to cover
    #52 Islanders to win
    #56 Vancouver to win
     did not expect a win and why i threw away 20 Bucks
    ____________________________________________

    last year 4-0 streaks went 84-55 no covers= 60  %
    this year curr 4-0 streaks 47-39 no covers = 55%
    thats a shortage of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,37-15 no covers = 71%
    4-0 streaks will not cover thru bal of season
    __________________________________________
    last year 0-5 streaks went 33-27 covers =55%
    this year they are currently 21-26 covers = 45%
    thats a shortage of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,12-1 this needs to be watched
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    730 to cover
    742 to coverdamnnn bill leave her alone
    759 to cover
    #52 Islanders to win
    #56 Vancouver to win
     did not expect a win and why i threw away 20 Bucks
    ____________________________________________

    last year 4-0 streaks went 84-55 no covers= 60  %
    this year curr 4-0 streaks 47-39 no covers = 55%
    thats a shortage of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,37-15 no covers = 71%
    4-0 streaks will not cover thru bal of season
    __________________________________________
    last year 0-5 streaks went 33-27 covers =55%
    this year they are currently 21-26 covers = 45%
    thats a shortage of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,12-1 this needs to be watched
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 9:19 PM ET #1972

    0-4 Ohio St 

    last year 4-0 streaks went 84-55 no covers= 60  %
    this year curr 4-0 streaks 47-39 no covers = 55%
    thats a shortage of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,37-15 no covers = 71%
    4-0 streaks will not cover thru bal of season
    __________________________________________
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    0-4 Ohio St 

    last year 4-0 streaks went 84-55 no covers= 60  %
    this year curr 4-0 streaks 47-39 no covers = 55%
    thats a shortage of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,37-15 no covers = 71%
    4-0 streaks will not cover thru bal of season
    __________________________________________
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 9:37 PM ET #1973



    2013 season record 0-4 streak  63-64
    2014 to date record 0-4 streak 53-47
    that suggests we should still see (27) 10-17 
    more streak plays occur 10 covers and 17 no covers

    0-4 Ohio St 
    awaiting these 0-4's
    Iowa St
    Santa clara
    N Iowa


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    2013 season record 0-4 streak  63-64
    2014 to date record 0-4 streak 53-47
    that suggests we should still see (27) 10-17 
    more streak plays occur 10 covers and 17 no covers

    0-4 Ohio St 
    awaiting these 0-4's
    Iowa St
    Santa clara
    N Iowa


     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 9:43 PM ET #1974

    Steveo I think I just sent you a friend request. Let me know if you dont get it. Then i'll PM you contact info for my madness vegas trip. looking to make some biggg money with ya buddy

    whats the big ncaa play tomorrow? is it the 0-8 streak?
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    Steveo I think I just sent you a friend request. Let me know if you dont get it. Then i'll PM you contact info for my madness vegas trip. looking to make some biggg money with ya buddy

    whats the big ncaa play tomorrow? is it the 0-8 streak?
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2014 - 9:52 PM ET #1975

    Set your alarm clock ... UCF next ...
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    Set your alarm clock ... UCF next ...
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