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    Ncaab ATS Streak Breakers for 2013/2014

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    Rippn808
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2013 - 11:05 PM ET #501

    So Boise needs this tonight?.. 
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    So Boise needs this tonight?.. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 3:34 AM ET #502

    ST Mary's was 9-0 didn't see that anywhere on list of streaks..
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    ST Mary's was 9-0 didn't see that anywhere on list of streaks..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 8:04 AM ET #503

    Morn Guys

    Letsbreakem

    Santa Clara is 0-4 and odds makers record to cover is 19-17 
    almost a 50-50 (that's good) shows control per odds makers ability to apply proper point spreads
    S Fla is just 0-2 
    I would chance S Clara to cover as i think they get a favorable point spread from Odds makers They seem to have control of S Fla at 0-2

    I never worry about what the point spread will be as its all about the Odds makers Record of applying the correct points in past games
    Forget about players,teams,home, away and all the other tangibles as Odds makers already have that factored into a play
    It shows their ability of balancing out games and at various Streak levels and certain Teams as teams rise to higher levels both win and loss.

    Most gamblers will follow certain teams as they win along with fan base and the higher the win record usually their wagers rise as why not ????? EASY MONEY to win,and as the streak gets HIGHER the easier the WAGERS comes in on them

    Example  Oregon,Umass both 8-0 and what happens and next is Villanova but they are just at 7-0 and if i lose fading them on 28th i will double my wager the next time they play as they can't continue as past records says they can't and last years record of 13-3 backs it up Page 435

    Just the opposite with large loss streaks, as they then fade those teams with high wagers as surely losing teams will continue to lose and usually that is correct
    Just look at East ILL record 0-7
    Loss Streaks can Not continue although Odds makers do have a harder time stopping loosing streaks as i think its a "as they say a work in progress" for Odds makers with some teams
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    Better post this b4 i max it out
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    Morn Guys

    Letsbreakem

    Santa Clara is 0-4 and odds makers record to cover is 19-17 
    almost a 50-50 (that's good) shows control per odds makers ability to apply proper point spreads
    S Fla is just 0-2 
    I would chance S Clara to cover as i think they get a favorable point spread from Odds makers They seem to have control of S Fla at 0-2

    I never worry about what the point spread will be as its all about the Odds makers Record of applying the correct points in past games
    Forget about players,teams,home, away and all the other tangibles as Odds makers already have that factored into a play
    It shows their ability of balancing out games and at various Streak levels and certain Teams as teams rise to higher levels both win and loss.

    Most gamblers will follow certain teams as they win along with fan base and the higher the win record usually their wagers rise as why not ????? EASY MONEY to win,and as the streak gets HIGHER the easier the WAGERS comes in on them

    Example  Oregon,Umass both 8-0 and what happens and next is Villanova but they are just at 7-0 and if i lose fading them on 28th i will double my wager the next time they play as they can't continue as past records says they can't and last years record of 13-3 backs it up Page 435

    Just the opposite with large loss streaks, as they then fade those teams with high wagers as surely losing teams will continue to lose and usually that is correct
    Just look at East ILL record 0-7
    Loss Streaks can Not continue although Odds makers do have a harder time stopping loosing streaks as i think its a "as they say a work in progress" for Odds makers with some teams
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 8:24 AM ET #504

    Rippon

    Boise is 0-5 and desperately needs a cover and Odds makers for some reason this year are having problems applying correct point spreads with win and loss streaks at level 5

    0-5 record to cover is 3-9
    5-0 Record to NOT cover is 3-10
    This level has been playing hell with odds makers this year and i can tell you Vegas is Pizzed with odds makers about it as they want BALANCE
    Until i see a change in record i'll be following the record for both to continue in same direction,both to go Higher
    Boise to go to 0-6 with rec at (3-9) to stop
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    Rippon

    Boise is 0-5 and desperately needs a cover and Odds makers for some reason this year are having problems applying correct point spreads with win and loss streaks at level 5

    0-5 record to cover is 3-9
    5-0 Record to NOT cover is 3-10
    This level has been playing hell with odds makers this year and i can tell you Vegas is Pizzed with odds makers about it as they want BALANCE
    Until i see a change in record i'll be following the record for both to continue in same direction,both to go Higher
    Boise to go to 0-6 with rec at (3-9) to stop
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 8:29 AM ET #505

     Rippon  

    St Marys was on a  3-0 streak but did not cover on 12/22 against S Carolina per official Covers records

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     Rippon  

    St Marys was on a  3-0 streak but did not cover on 12/22 against S Carolina per official Covers records

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 8:45 AM ET #506

    Here we go again with another 5-0 streak record
    ILL Chicago at 5-0 and record to stop is 3-10 so i'm playing them to go to 6-0 until Odds makers make corrections
    also Colorado St is 0-4 and loss streak record is 19-17 showing they have control of level 0-4 but not level 5-0
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    The correct play if they fix game properly would be Col ST covers and ILL Chi doesn't but until i see it changing i'll follow 5-0 to continue to 6-0 per record at 3-10
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    Here we go again with another 5-0 streak record
    ILL Chicago at 5-0 and record to stop is 3-10 so i'm playing them to go to 6-0 until Odds makers make corrections
    also Colorado St is 0-4 and loss streak record is 19-17 showing they have control of level 0-4 but not level 5-0
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    The correct play if they fix game properly would be Col ST covers and ILL Chi doesn't but until i see it changing i'll follow 5-0 to continue to 6-0 per record at 3-10
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 9:05 AM ET #507

    6-0 Unlv plays t nite and 6-0 win streaks are 3-4 showing much better Odds makers control of games at this level

    Miss St appears as no problem at 1-0 so this game should be a Pass,but with the 50% i'll chance Unlv to cover t nite since they are my Home team (HOMEY PLAY)
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    we have 1 other team at 0-4  t nite
    0-4 Mason with record as noted 19-17 so will chance they cover this evening
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    balance of plays are all at level 3
    3-0 Akron
    3-0 Hawaii
    3-0 Utep
    0-3 Siu Edwards
    As prev noted we just monitor plays at this level unless you have a better idea and best of luck with them

    I think that covers all games this evening and BOL in your selections

     Finally done
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    6-0 Unlv plays t nite and 6-0 win streaks are 3-4 showing much better Odds makers control of games at this level

    Miss St appears as no problem at 1-0 so this game should be a Pass,but with the 50% i'll chance Unlv to cover t nite since they are my Home team (HOMEY PLAY)
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    we have 1 other team at 0-4  t nite
    0-4 Mason with record as noted 19-17 so will chance they cover this evening
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    balance of plays are all at level 3
    3-0 Akron
    3-0 Hawaii
    3-0 Utep
    0-3 Siu Edwards
    As prev noted we just monitor plays at this level unless you have a better idea and best of luck with them

    I think that covers all games this evening and BOL in your selections

     Finally done
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 9:15 AM ET #508

    Rippn
    went back and double checked St Marys and they only had two 3-0 win streaks as other games were non wager games and never offered to wager on so they do not count and on top of all that they did not cover their last start any way on 12/22 so all mute as they say
     chk covers records for accuracy
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    Rippn
    went back and double checked St Marys and they only had two 3-0 win streaks as other games were non wager games and never offered to wager on so they do not count and on top of all that they did not cover their last start any way on 12/22 so all mute as they say
     chk covers records for accuracy
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 9:43 AM ET #509

    wish covers would post ncaab stat sheets 2 days in advance of games as it would give us more time to review match ups on Big play days when all play Saturdays are just hell to do when everybody plays
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    wish covers would post ncaab stat sheets 2 days in advance of games as it would give us more time to review match ups on Big play days when all play Saturdays are just hell to do when everybody plays
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 9:56 AM ET #510

    need to correct this as did not post Boise's loss at 0-4 to 0-5 so 0-4 record is 19-18 even a more balanced record for 0-4

    but we still have problems at levels 5

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    need to correct this as did not post Boise's loss at 0-4 to 0-5 so 0-4 record is 19-18 even a more balanced record for 0-4

    but we still have problems at levels 5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 2:16 PM ET #511

    Appears i over looked Santa Clara last night as they did not cover and Covers records show they are now at 0-6 as that push in between 2-3 does not stop Streaks either W or L 
    0-6 streaks record to cover are 4-3
    May need to take a pass on that play

    Hope Letsbreakem sees this Correction
     sorry bro
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    Appears i over looked Santa Clara last night as they did not cover and Covers records show they are now at 0-6 as that push in between 2-3 does not stop Streaks either W or L 
    0-6 streaks record to cover are 4-3
    May need to take a pass on that play

    Hope Letsbreakem sees this Correction
     sorry bro
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 2:37 PM ET #512

    lets sum up Streak Plays t nite with highest first

    6-0 Unlv  ( 6-0 record to NOT cover (3-4) Pass

    5-0 ILL Chi ( 5-0 record to NOT Cover (3-10) ILL Chi to 6-0

    4-0 None (20-15) to NOT cover) 0 Avail

    3-0 Akron,Hawaii,Utep ( 3-0 record to Not cover ) 59-39
    Best job at 3-0 ( 62 %) usually just monitor but at 60% may go opposite them
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    0-6 Santa Clara (0-6 record to cover is (3-4) Pass,see note above Pg 511

    0-5 Boise ( 0-5 record to cover(3-9) does not look good to cover

    0-4 Col St ( 0-4 record is 19-18 as noted +1) but 5-0 ILL Chi record to continue is 10-3 how can you ignore that

    0-4 Mason ( another 19-18 record) Pass could go either way and no help from opposition at 0-1

    0-3 Siu Ewardsville (we just monitor this level)

    As i continue to say its all about the SPREAD  and the Odds makers records tell me where to place my $$$$ so i will follow their leads both with corrections and errors
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    lets sum up Streak Plays t nite with highest first

    6-0 Unlv  ( 6-0 record to NOT cover (3-4) Pass

    5-0 ILL Chi ( 5-0 record to NOT Cover (3-10) ILL Chi to 6-0

    4-0 None (20-15) to NOT cover) 0 Avail

    3-0 Akron,Hawaii,Utep ( 3-0 record to Not cover ) 59-39
    Best job at 3-0 ( 62 %) usually just monitor but at 60% may go opposite them
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    0-6 Santa Clara (0-6 record to cover is (3-4) Pass,see note above Pg 511

    0-5 Boise ( 0-5 record to cover(3-9) does not look good to cover

    0-4 Col St ( 0-4 record is 19-18 as noted +1) but 5-0 ILL Chi record to continue is 10-3 how can you ignore that

    0-4 Mason ( another 19-18 record) Pass could go either way and no help from opposition at 0-1

    0-3 Siu Ewardsville (we just monitor this level)

    As i continue to say its all about the SPREAD  and the Odds makers records tell me where to place my $$$$ so i will follow their leads both with corrections and errors
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 2:51 PM ET #513

    Have you done any analysis on +/- pts off of covering at each level?
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    Have you done any analysis on +/- pts off of covering at each level?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 2:54 PM ET #514

    Looking to play ILL Chicago today for a little action..
    Appreciate all your hard work man!  Bol to us!  
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    Looking to play ILL Chicago today for a little action..
    Appreciate all your hard work man!  Bol to us!  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 3:12 PM ET #515

    Hey stevo1,
    sorry, but do you think you could list out your plays...sorry to be a pain, but I just want to make sure I have it right.  I'm a little slow at times and find the above a little confusing to follow 

    tx man
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    Hey stevo1,
    sorry, but do you think you could list out your plays...sorry to be a pain, but I just want to make sure I have it right.  I'm a little slow at times and find the above a little confusing to follow 

    tx man
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 3:33 PM ET #516

    I'm a little confused as well! I read your post over and over and still not quite sure who the right pick is! I respect the work you do and appreciate all the help! Thank you
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    I'm a little confused as well! I read your post over and over and still not quite sure who the right pick is! I respect the work you do and appreciate all the help! Thank you
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 4:11 PM ET #517

    Mason/Oreg St 40-40 in 2nd half 
    (0-4 Mason ( another 19-18 record)
    glad i passed

    FYI 

    I don't know how, but after all i have posted we have another 

    Hofstra at 4-0 win streak ( Pushes do not stop Streaks) does play Siena and as noted 4-0 streak record to stop at 19-15
      
    Siena could cover this match up today if odds makers continue to try and stop 4-0 streaks with favorable point spreads to opposition
    we will see
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    Mason/Oreg St 40-40 in 2nd half 
    (0-4 Mason ( another 19-18 record)
    glad i passed

    FYI 

    I don't know how, but after all i have posted we have another 

    Hofstra at 4-0 win streak ( Pushes do not stop Streaks) does play Siena and as noted 4-0 streak record to stop at 19-15
      
    Siena could cover this match up today if odds makers continue to try and stop 4-0 streaks with favorable point spreads to opposition
    we will see
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 4:20 PM ET #518

    plays for today

    731 Top Play today
    725 Top Play today
    740
    _____
    strong leans Level 3 plays( against all 3-0 streak teams) 61-39 = 61 % to cover
    729
    733
    747
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    plays for today

    731 Top Play today
    725 Top Play today
    740
    _____
    strong leans Level 3 plays( against all 3-0 streak teams) 61-39 = 61 % to cover
    729
    733
    747
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 4:38 PM ET #519

    Degen i'm not sure what u r asking but i have analized what teams have done after large win streaks and most can't cover their next 3 starts regardless of point spreads 

    This was in  2012/2013 season of all 7-0 win streaks and above
    so what i am saying is i am looking for Oregon,Umass,Penn St to continue to not cover their next few games if last year can be 
    confirmed as a past record of large win streak teams

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    Degen i'm not sure what u r asking but i have analized what teams have done after large win streaks and most can't cover their next 3 starts regardless of point spreads 

    This was in  2012/2013 season of all 7-0 win streaks and above
    so what i am saying is i am looking for Oregon,Umass,Penn St to continue to not cover their next few games if last year can be 
    confirmed as a past record of large win streak teams

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 4:44 PM ET #520

    don't want to confuse 

    strong leans Level 3 plays( against all 3-0 streak teams) 61-39 = 61 %  win ratio says all 3-0's will not cover
    729
    733
    747
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    don't want to confuse 

    strong leans Level 3 plays( against all 3-0 streak teams) 61-39 = 61 %  win ratio says all 3-0's will not cover
    729
    733
    747
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 4:53 PM ET #521

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    plays for today

    731 Top Play today
    725 Top Play today
    740
    _____
    strong leans Level 3 plays( against all 3-0 streak teams) 61-39 = 61 % to cover
    729
    733
    747

    ok stevo1...now i'm really confused sorry bro !
    what do the #'s represent?  pretty new to college bball...tx pal.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    plays for today

    731 Top Play today
    725 Top Play today
    740
    _____
    strong leans Level 3 plays( against all 3-0 streak teams) 61-39 = 61 % to cover
    729
    733
    747

    ok stevo1...now i'm really confused sorry bro !
    what do the #'s represent?  pretty new to college bball...tx pal.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 5:10 PM ET #522

    wanted to update all streak records as of 12/23
    First all losing streaks records 
    0-8 No Team has reached this level as of 12/23

    0-7 loss streaks record to cover(3-0) Odds makers have helped all teams
    with favorable point spreads and Vegas thanks them and so do we 
    0-7 East Ill Is next 12/28 

    0-6 loss streaks to cover ( 3-4 )
    0-6 we have two N Dakota 12/29 and Pitt 12/31

    0-5 Streak Plays to cover (3-10) Odds makers are not helping enough
    we have five at this level
    Boise today 12/23, i do not see them covering odds are 10-3 they don't
     final 4 Bradly,Prov,Alab 12/28 Ball St 12/30

    0-4 Streak plays to cover 19-18
    0-4 Colorado St 12/23 today,Furman 12/28 and Appalach St 1/2

    0-3 Streak plays to cover (44-40) 
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    wanted to update all streak records as of 12/23
    First all losing streaks records 
    0-8 No Team has reached this level as of 12/23

    0-7 loss streaks record to cover(3-0) Odds makers have helped all teams
    with favorable point spreads and Vegas thanks them and so do we 
    0-7 East Ill Is next 12/28 

    0-6 loss streaks to cover ( 3-4 )
    0-6 we have two N Dakota 12/29 and Pitt 12/31

    0-5 Streak Plays to cover (3-10) Odds makers are not helping enough
    we have five at this level
    Boise today 12/23, i do not see them covering odds are 10-3 they don't
     final 4 Bradly,Prov,Alab 12/28 Ball St 12/30

    0-4 Streak plays to cover 19-18
    0-4 Colorado St 12/23 today,Furman 12/28 and Appalach St 1/2

    0-3 Streak plays to cover (44-40) 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 5:14 PM ET #523

    Corp they are the wager #'s
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    Corp they are the wager #'s
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 5:18 PM ET #524

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    Corp they are the wager #'s
    lol...But how can I tell which team and at what spread?   me thinks I really missed something!  
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    Corp they are the wager #'s
    lol...But how can I tell which team and at what spread?   me thinks I really missed something!  
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2013 - 5:20 PM ET #525

    Quote Originally Posted by corporation:

    lol...But how can I tell which team and at what spread?   me thinks I really missed something!  

    never mind stevo1!!!!  now i get it, lol...I did say I was slow right???
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    Quote Originally Posted by corporation:

    lol...But how can I tell which team and at what spread?   me thinks I really missed something!  

    never mind stevo1!!!!  now i get it, lol...I did say I was slow right???
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