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    Ncaab ATS Streak Breakers for 2013/2014

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 11:10 AM ET #351

    Guys i need to apologize as my final  #'s are correct  but the # of teams were 19 not 23 as i added the 4 twice that were already in totals,but still correct 

    Please forgive me but its still pretty Bad and the end result is the same

    Again very sorry but i can say this that there were 15 Teams at 3-0 and 4-0 Win Streaks that were not able to cover their spreads out of just 19 and that win percentage is still correct
    21.052631578947366 WIN Percentage

    19 teams with win streaks of 3 and 4 only 4 could cover last week

    again very sorry

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    Guys i need to apologize as my final  #'s are correct  but the # of teams were 19 not 23 as i added the 4 twice that were already in totals,but still correct 

    Please forgive me but its still pretty Bad and the end result is the same

    Again very sorry but i can say this that there were 15 Teams at 3-0 and 4-0 Win Streaks that were not able to cover their spreads out of just 19 and that win percentage is still correct
    21.052631578947366 WIN Percentage

    19 teams with win streaks of 3 and 4 only 4 could cover last week

    again very sorry

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 11:22 AM ET #352

    The real purpose of above post was the Stat to show how well the odds makers have been doing  controlling win streaks from continuing and this week it appears they have done a great job as we just have 9 teams in the 3-0 and 4-0 win streak system to date from 19 last week

    My concern this week is will the 3-0 and 4-0 win streaks do as poorly as last week at 21 % win ratio and if so it appears as the fade approach is the way to go

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    The real purpose of above post was the Stat to show how well the odds makers have been doing  controlling win streaks from continuing and this week it appears they have done a great job as we just have 9 teams in the 3-0 and 4-0 win streak system to date from 19 last week

    My concern this week is will the 3-0 and 4-0 win streaks do as poorly as last week at 21 % win ratio and if so it appears as the fade approach is the way to go

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 11:50 AM ET #353

    Today we have 2 teams at 3-0 win streaks,so i guess we will see
    Delaware
    ILL St
    We have no 4-0 win streak teams today

    We have no High level W/L streaks playing today

    Tomorrow we do have

    7-0 Oregon playing  and they are one of the Highest teams
     along with 7-0 Umass who plays on 12/18

    7-0 Win streaks to STOP are 1-0 thanks to Penn St stoppingWe are looking for Oregon to not cover tomorrow per System

    We also Have 5-0 Wichita ST playing on 12/17 vs Alabama
    ( 5-0 Win streaks to stop are 3-7 to stop) not very good ,so does Wichita St go to 6-0,record says yes

    We have no Losing streak teams playing today Level 3 and above as best i can see
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    Today we have 2 teams at 3-0 win streaks,so i guess we will see
    Delaware
    ILL St
    We have no 4-0 win streak teams today

    We have no High level W/L streaks playing today

    Tomorrow we do have

    7-0 Oregon playing  and they are one of the Highest teams
     along with 7-0 Umass who plays on 12/18

    7-0 Win streaks to STOP are 1-0 thanks to Penn St stoppingWe are looking for Oregon to not cover tomorrow per System

    We also Have 5-0 Wichita ST playing on 12/17 vs Alabama
    ( 5-0 Win streaks to stop are 3-7 to stop) not very good ,so does Wichita St go to 6-0,record says yes

    We have no Losing streak teams playing today Level 3 and above as best i can see
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 2:59 PM ET #354

    So does that mean Delaware & ILL St is the way to go?..
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    So does that mean Delaware & ILL St is the way to go?..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 4:40 PM ET #355

    Sorry been proof editing all div 1 Ncaab teams ATS covers rankings. Damnn, this is a lot of work so easy to miss a team and its current streak.Think i finally have it all correct NOW and most of what is posted is right

    from the 3-0 and 4-0 Streaks records of last week you play AGAINST ILL ST and Delaware to cover the point spread as only 4 were able to cover over the last week of the 19 that were at those levels

    The plays are N Dakota St -7 and Oakland -4
    as record is saying the ODDS makers are not giving enough points to ILL ST and Delaware so both at 3-0 win Streak will lose and at 43-32 overall it does show that approach.

    It is the odds Makers job to balance out these plays and after you review the totals they are doing a pretty good job of it



    Will be interesting to see how it plays out

    In Editing and going thru all streak levels i've found the following

    3-0 win streaks to stop are 43-32
    4-0 Win Streaks to stop are 16-13
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-7 Little lacking here
    6-0 Win streaks to stop are 3-3
    7-0 Win Streaks to stop are 1-0 
    no team has reached 8-0 but we are awaiting Oregon play 7-0
    and we are looking for them to NOT COVER vs UC Irvine
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    0-3 loss streaks to cover 39-34
    0-4 loss streaks to cover 16-11
    0-5 loss streaks to cover 2-6 Odds makers are not helping
    0-6 loss streaks to cover 3-1 Odds makers doing good job
    0-7 no team has reached 0-7 but Wright St plays 12/19 and needs help

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    Sorry been proof editing all div 1 Ncaab teams ATS covers rankings. Damnn, this is a lot of work so easy to miss a team and its current streak.Think i finally have it all correct NOW and most of what is posted is right

    from the 3-0 and 4-0 Streaks records of last week you play AGAINST ILL ST and Delaware to cover the point spread as only 4 were able to cover over the last week of the 19 that were at those levels

    The plays are N Dakota St -7 and Oakland -4
    as record is saying the ODDS makers are not giving enough points to ILL ST and Delaware so both at 3-0 win Streak will lose and at 43-32 overall it does show that approach.

    It is the odds Makers job to balance out these plays and after you review the totals they are doing a pretty good job of it



    Will be interesting to see how it plays out

    In Editing and going thru all streak levels i've found the following

    3-0 win streaks to stop are 43-32
    4-0 Win Streaks to stop are 16-13
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-7 Little lacking here
    6-0 Win streaks to stop are 3-3
    7-0 Win Streaks to stop are 1-0 
    no team has reached 8-0 but we are awaiting Oregon play 7-0
    and we are looking for them to NOT COVER vs UC Irvine
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    0-3 loss streaks to cover 39-34
    0-4 loss streaks to cover 16-11
    0-5 loss streaks to cover 2-6 Odds makers are not helping
    0-6 loss streaks to cover 3-1 Odds makers doing good job
    0-7 no team has reached 0-7 but Wright St plays 12/19 and needs help

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 4:50 PM ET #356

    What i think will happen as more teams get to 0-5 the odds makers will increase their point spreads to these teams at this level as they can see they are lacking this group and just the opposite on streak teams at 5-0 they seem to need to increase points on these teams to slow streak down and they def need to get control of OREGON

    Other wise every joe public will be pounding Oregon to win and casinos will loose a bundle and we all know Vegas is not giving out free money 
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    What i think will happen as more teams get to 0-5 the odds makers will increase their point spreads to these teams at this level as they can see they are lacking this group and just the opposite on streak teams at 5-0 they seem to need to increase points on these teams to slow streak down and they def need to get control of OREGON

    Other wise every joe public will be pounding Oregon to win and casinos will loose a bundle and we all know Vegas is not giving out free money 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 5:07 PM ET #357

    Thank you sir!  BOL tonight
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    Thank you sir!  BOL tonight
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 5:12 PM ET #358

    Reposting this from pg 283 as think it has good info

    FYI 
    Last year of the 16 teams that had a 7-0 win streak and higher 8 Teams of the 16 teams at 7-0 could not go any higher and at 8-0 five more stopped (13) .That left just 3 teams at 9-0 and of those at 9-0 one stopped.Leaving just 2 teams at 10-0 and 11-0 win streak for 2012/13 season and yes they both stopped too prior to seasons end.St Louis had the longest W streak at 11-0

    So as the teams get to 7-0 and 8-0 this year be prepared to wager large for them to stop and not COVER as just as last year at 13-4  to stop is damnnn good odds
    Today we have 2 teams at 7-0 win streaks
    Oregon
    Penn St
    Will Odds makers allow them to Continue
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    Reposting this from pg 283 as think it has good info

    FYI 
    Last year of the 16 teams that had a 7-0 win streak and higher 8 Teams of the 16 teams at 7-0 could not go any higher and at 8-0 five more stopped (13) .That left just 3 teams at 9-0 and of those at 9-0 one stopped.Leaving just 2 teams at 10-0 and 11-0 win streak for 2012/13 season and yes they both stopped too prior to seasons end.St Louis had the longest W streak at 11-0

    So as the teams get to 7-0 and 8-0 this year be prepared to wager large for them to stop and not COVER as just as last year at 13-4  to stop is damnnn good odds
    Today we have 2 teams at 7-0 win streaks
    Oregon
    Penn St
    Will Odds makers allow them to Continue
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 5:19 PM ET #359

    Oregon was a push last start vs ILL why there still at 7-0 got my $$$$ back

    Penn St loss made me Mega $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    and now  awaiting Oregon AGAIN to not cover
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    Oregon was a push last start vs ILL why there still at 7-0 got my $$$$ back

    Penn St loss made me Mega $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    and now  awaiting Oregon AGAIN to not cover
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 6:20 PM ET #360

    Lines are up for today and tomorrow and since just 2 plays today will parlay both into tomorrow

    722 N Dakota St -7
    718 Oakland -4
    535 Cal Irvine + 14
    511 Pitt -6 since they are 0-4 loss streak
    518 Providence -11.5 since they are 0-4 loss streak also
    527 Wichita St at 5-0  to continue since record is 3-7 to stop

     6 teamer for small $$$$  lets see how #'s do
    maybe we'll get lucky
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    Lines are up for today and tomorrow and since just 2 plays today will parlay both into tomorrow

    722 N Dakota St -7
    718 Oakland -4
    535 Cal Irvine + 14
    511 Pitt -6 since they are 0-4 loss streak
    518 Providence -11.5 since they are 0-4 loss streak also
    527 Wichita St at 5-0  to continue since record is 3-7 to stop

     6 teamer for small $$$$  lets see how #'s do
    maybe we'll get lucky
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 7:57 PM ET #361

    well 38-38 at half time,thought could be close as level 3's normally are but with the past week record i thought i'd give it a try as a parlay into tomorrow. Guess we will see 
    GL all 
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    well 38-38 at half time,thought could be close as level 3's normally are but with the past week record i thought i'd give it a try as a parlay into tomorrow. Guess we will see 
    GL all 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 9:38 PM ET #362

    Oakland 90
    ILL St     75

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    Oakland 90
    ILL St     75

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 10:00 PM ET #363

    N Dakota St  85  -7.5 per Covers  I got at -7 but did not matter

    Delaware  66


    Both 3-0 Win Streaks STOP
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    N Dakota St  85  -7.5 per Covers  I got at -7 but did not matter

    Delaware  66


    Both 3-0 Win Streaks STOP
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 10:02 PM ET #364

    Well Done!
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    Well Done!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 10:07 PM ET #365

    3-0 win streaks to stop are 45-32

    Tomorrow we go Against 7-0 Oregon

    and a few others listed above
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    3-0 win streaks to stop are 45-32

    Tomorrow we go Against 7-0 Oregon

    and a few others listed above
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 10:09 PM ET #366

    Rippn  happy to help
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    Rippn  happy to help
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 10:11 PM ET #367

    see you tomorrow
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    see you tomorrow
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2013 - 11:01 PM ET #368

    Looking forward to it! thx again
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    Looking forward to it! thx again
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2013 - 11:38 AM ET #369

    Morn Gents  well we only had 2 plays last night but it was nice to win them both as the 3-0 streaks did exactly what was expected per past performances and when you look at the #'s i sometimes marvel at the # of plays that already have completed in Season and its just the infancy of ncaab 2013/14
    77 Teams have had a 3-0 win streak record to date and at the other level
    2 teams have had a win streak of 7-0

    Big difference in between and that is where we make our Money as no team can continue as Odds makers job to stop them and they are doing a great job not to mention the Pressure on 20 year old  players trying to continue winning as streaks get higher and in some respects just the opposite when teams are on large loss streaks as just the reverse can happen although bad teams on most occasions will continue to lose regardless of any point spread given and we have Wright St facing this dilema today against Alabama .So will the Odds Makers give them enough points to cover their game today or do they let them go to 0-8 and be the first Team with a large loss streak for season

    Last year only 6 teams of all 260 + div 1 teams reached 
    0-8 and higher, so do the odds makers give them a win able point spread or do they let the bleeding continue  knowing every Joe Public wager will be fading them and casinos are about to take a hit,,,,,,,,,gee i did not know casinos are giving away free money today
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    Morn Gents  well we only had 2 plays last night but it was nice to win them both as the 3-0 streaks did exactly what was expected per past performances and when you look at the #'s i sometimes marvel at the # of plays that already have completed in Season and its just the infancy of ncaab 2013/14
    77 Teams have had a 3-0 win streak record to date and at the other level
    2 teams have had a win streak of 7-0

    Big difference in between and that is where we make our Money as no team can continue as Odds makers job to stop them and they are doing a great job not to mention the Pressure on 20 year old  players trying to continue winning as streaks get higher and in some respects just the opposite when teams are on large loss streaks as just the reverse can happen although bad teams on most occasions will continue to lose regardless of any point spread given and we have Wright St facing this dilema today against Alabama .So will the Odds Makers give them enough points to cover their game today or do they let them go to 0-8 and be the first Team with a large loss streak for season

    Last year only 6 teams of all 260 + div 1 teams reached 
    0-8 and higher, so do the odds makers give them a win able point spread or do they let the bleeding continue  knowing every Joe Public wager will be fading them and casinos are about to take a hit,,,,,,,,,gee i did not know casinos are giving away free money today
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2013 - 11:45 AM ET #370

    Ready to smash 
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    Ready to smash 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2013 - 12:01 PM ET #371

    Guys cancel this statement as its not correct

    ig difference in between and that is where we make our Money as no team can continue as Odds makers job to stop them and they are doing a great job not to mention the Pressure on 20 year old  players trying to continue winning as streaks get higher and in some respects just the opposite when teams are on large loss streaks as just the reverse can happen although bad teams on most occasions will continue to lose regardless of any point spread given and we have Wright St facing this dilema today against Alabama .So will the Odds Makers give them enough points to cover their game today or do they let them go to 0-8 and be the first Team with a large loss streak for season

    Let me re do it correctly
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    Guys cancel this statement as its not correct

    ig difference in between and that is where we make our Money as no team can continue as Odds makers job to stop them and they are doing a great job not to mention the Pressure on 20 year old  players trying to continue winning as streaks get higher and in some respects just the opposite when teams are on large loss streaks as just the reverse can happen although bad teams on most occasions will continue to lose regardless of any point spread given and we have Wright St facing this dilema today against Alabama .So will the Odds Makers give them enough points to cover their game today or do they let them go to 0-8 and be the first Team with a large loss streak for season

    Let me re do it correctly
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2013 - 12:11 PM ET #372

    Wright St is not playing today and is on a win streak anyway
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    Wright St is not playing today and is on a win streak anyway
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2013 - 12:23 PM ET #373

    5-0 Wichita St is playing Alabama today

    Wright St/Wichita St  damnnit

    5-0 Wichita St is playing Alabama today and the 5-0 streak record is at 3-7 to cover and that worries me as odds makers are not applying enough points at this level for some reason and seem to correct it at 6-0 (3-3)
    So do they continue to allow 5-0 win streaks to continue as in past at 3-7 ???? The record says they do so i guess i need to take Wichita St to cover t nite and wait at 6-0 to go against them

    sorry for the screw up over team names
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    5-0 Wichita St is playing Alabama today

    Wright St/Wichita St  damnnit

    5-0 Wichita St is playing Alabama today and the 5-0 streak record is at 3-7 to cover and that worries me as odds makers are not applying enough points at this level for some reason and seem to correct it at 6-0 (3-3)
    So do they continue to allow 5-0 win streaks to continue as in past at 3-7 ???? The record says they do so i guess i need to take Wichita St to cover t nite and wait at 6-0 to go against them

    sorry for the screw up over team names
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2013 - 12:28 PM ET #374

    I stilll have it wrong  i need a cup of coffee what is wrong with me this morn

    5-0 Wichita St is playing Alabama today and the 5-0 streak record is at 3-7 to NOT cover and that worries me as odds makers are not applying enough points at this level for some reason and seem to correct it at 6-0 (3-3)
    So do they continue to allow 5-0 win streaks to continue as in past at 3-7 ???? The record says they do so i guess i need to take Wichita St to cover t nite and wait at 6-0 to go against them

    Damnn what is wrong with my head this AM


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    I stilll have it wrong  i need a cup of coffee what is wrong with me this morn

    5-0 Wichita St is playing Alabama today and the 5-0 streak record is at 3-7 to NOT cover and that worries me as odds makers are not applying enough points at this level for some reason and seem to correct it at 6-0 (3-3)
    So do they continue to allow 5-0 win streaks to continue as in past at 3-7 ???? The record says they do so i guess i need to take Wichita St to cover t nite and wait at 6-0 to go against them

    Damnn what is wrong with my head this AM


     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2013 - 12:41 PM ET #375

    Instead of going any farther here is what i will be on today

    535 Cal Irvine to cover over 7-0 Oregon regardless of point spread
    511 Pittsburg as   0-4 streaks usually cover (16-11)
    518 Providence as 0-4 streaks usually cover
    527 Wright St to cover and continue to 6-0 as 5-0 streaks are 3-7 to stop

    Amen 
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    Instead of going any farther here is what i will be on today

    535 Cal Irvine to cover over 7-0 Oregon regardless of point spread
    511 Pittsburg as   0-4 streaks usually cover (16-11)
    518 Providence as 0-4 streaks usually cover
    527 Wright St to cover and continue to 6-0 as 5-0 streaks are 3-7 to stop

    Amen 
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