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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 4:57 AM ET #401

    Rippon  Penn St is not at 8-0 as they did not cover last start so they are 0-1 now
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    Rippon  Penn St is not at 8-0 as they did not cover last start so they are 0-1 now
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 5:01 AM ET #402

    Correction ( just getting in from casino so not thinking straight)

    Odds makers took it on the Chin with 0-4 streaks as both Providence and Pittsburg could not Cover and that record is diminished some what at 16-13 to cover



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    Correction ( just getting in from casino so not thinking straight)

    Odds makers took it on the Chin with 0-4 streaks as both Providence and Pittsburg could not Cover and that record is diminished some what at 16-13 to cover



     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 12:55 PM ET #403

    Morn boys rough night last night in ncaab thank goodness able to recover some of losses at BJ table 

    Recap from yesterday

    7-0 Oregon goes to 8-0 ATS  W streak and plays on 12/21 vs BYU No team this season has gone to 9-0
    Oregon is the first team to reach 8-0 win streak this season and record is 0-0   
    I will be doubling my wager 12/21 they don't cover regardless of PS

    5-0 Wichita St Covers and goes to 6-0 and plays on 12/22 vs Nccu
    this will prob not be offered to wager on and may need to await 12/29 vs Davidson (6-0) streaks are 3-3 to date,,this level is 50-50 but things can change by 12/29 have time for this play

    There were no win streak teams yesterday at 4-0 or 3-0 so there's nothing new at these levels

    We did pick up 7 teams to streak level 3-0 from last night but we usually only monitor their progress at that level and will touch on them on their game day later in week although
    3-0 to not cover is 45-32 to not cover

    Loss Streaks at 0-4 was the highest level last night
    0-4 Pitt can't cover and goes to 0-5
    0-4 Providence can't cover and goes to 0-5
    0-4 record to cover was 16-11 and now is 16-13
    Both should play on 12/21,one problem 0-5's to
    cover record is not good at 2-6 ( fade Plays)
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    We did pick up 0-3 Alabama who now is 0-4 and at 16-13 record  we could get a cover on 12/21 vs Xavier

    That completes last nights debacle and Casinos must be pizzed as Odds makers were not able to correct most plays last night,sh it is gonna hit the fan if this continues

    Will post this and move on to Today 12/18 

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    Morn boys rough night last night in ncaab thank goodness able to recover some of losses at BJ table 

    Recap from yesterday

    7-0 Oregon goes to 8-0 ATS  W streak and plays on 12/21 vs BYU No team this season has gone to 9-0
    Oregon is the first team to reach 8-0 win streak this season and record is 0-0   
    I will be doubling my wager 12/21 they don't cover regardless of PS

    5-0 Wichita St Covers and goes to 6-0 and plays on 12/22 vs Nccu
    this will prob not be offered to wager on and may need to await 12/29 vs Davidson (6-0) streaks are 3-3 to date,,this level is 50-50 but things can change by 12/29 have time for this play

    There were no win streak teams yesterday at 4-0 or 3-0 so there's nothing new at these levels

    We did pick up 7 teams to streak level 3-0 from last night but we usually only monitor their progress at that level and will touch on them on their game day later in week although
    3-0 to not cover is 45-32 to not cover

    Loss Streaks at 0-4 was the highest level last night
    0-4 Pitt can't cover and goes to 0-5
    0-4 Providence can't cover and goes to 0-5
    0-4 record to cover was 16-11 and now is 16-13
    Both should play on 12/21,one problem 0-5's to
    cover record is not good at 2-6 ( fade Plays)
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    We did pick up 0-3 Alabama who now is 0-4 and at 16-13 record  we could get a cover on 12/21 vs Xavier

    That completes last nights debacle and Casinos must be pizzed as Odds makers were not able to correct most plays last night,sh it is gonna hit the fan if this continues

    Will post this and move on to Today 12/18 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 2:34 PM ET #404

    took a litle longer than expected

    After reviewing games today we do have a few high priority plays pending

    7-0 Umass on road vs Ohio and the 7-0 record is now at 1-1 to stop thanks to Penn St not covering and Oregon covering although Penn St did have a push between their win streaks, but pushes do not stop Streaks in this thread
    We are looking for Umass to not cover and Odds makers blew it yesterday and Vegas is watching them closely so they better get it right
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    0-6 Southern Utah desperately needs a cover t nite and Odds makers are giving them +30.5 No team of all 304 has eclipsed to 0-7.Will they be the First
    Can SDSt afford 30.5 t nite
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    0-5 St Louis ( what a diff a year makes as went on a 11-0 win streak last year and now at 0-5 and 0-5 teams from Odds makers are not good to 0-5 teams at 2-6 to cover,Does not look good today for St Louis
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    0-4 UC Davis is following right behind and we now have Odds Makers trying to figure from yesterday if Providence and Pitt were not able to cover what do we need to do for Davis as record at 16-13 is not doing well.So do they correct this t nite or let Davis go to 0-5 where the record is even worse to cover at 2-6
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    0-3 we have 2 teams today( Cur rec to Cover is 39-34
    Uconn
    Lsu
    Can both cover,record is dicey Maybe i need your opinion on these 2
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    3-0 streak teams we do have a few (5) cur record 45-32 to stop Record is 58.4 % to Stop
    N Carolina-10.5
    Monroe +15
    St Johns -13
    Uab -19
    Unlv -14
    I'll let you decide and tell me
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    took a litle longer than expected

    After reviewing games today we do have a few high priority plays pending

    7-0 Umass on road vs Ohio and the 7-0 record is now at 1-1 to stop thanks to Penn St not covering and Oregon covering although Penn St did have a push between their win streaks, but pushes do not stop Streaks in this thread
    We are looking for Umass to not cover and Odds makers blew it yesterday and Vegas is watching them closely so they better get it right
    ____________________________________________________
    0-6 Southern Utah desperately needs a cover t nite and Odds makers are giving them +30.5 No team of all 304 has eclipsed to 0-7.Will they be the First
    Can SDSt afford 30.5 t nite
    __________________________________________________
    0-5 St Louis ( what a diff a year makes as went on a 11-0 win streak last year and now at 0-5 and 0-5 teams from Odds makers are not good to 0-5 teams at 2-6 to cover,Does not look good today for St Louis
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    0-4 UC Davis is following right behind and we now have Odds Makers trying to figure from yesterday if Providence and Pitt were not able to cover what do we need to do for Davis as record at 16-13 is not doing well.So do they correct this t nite or let Davis go to 0-5 where the record is even worse to cover at 2-6
    _________________________________________________
    0-3 we have 2 teams today( Cur rec to Cover is 39-34
    Uconn
    Lsu
    Can both cover,record is dicey Maybe i need your opinion on these 2
    __________________________________________________
    3-0 streak teams we do have a few (5) cur record 45-32 to stop Record is 58.4 % to Stop
    N Carolina-10.5
    Monroe +15
    St Johns -13
    Uab -19
    Unlv -14
    I'll let you decide and tell me
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 3:13 PM ET #405

    • NCAA BB | (745) INDIANA ST @ (746) SAINT LOUIS | 12/18/2013 8:00 PM
      Play ON SAINT LOUIS using Money Line in Home games after failing to cover the spread in 3 or more consecutive games
      The record is 10 Wins and 1 Losses for all times (10.7 units)
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    • NCAA BB | (745) INDIANA ST @ (746) SAINT LOUIS | 12/18/2013 8:00 PM
      Play ON SAINT LOUIS using Money Line in Home games after failing to cover the spread in 3 or more consecutive games
      The record is 10 Wins and 1 Losses for all times (10.7 units)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 3:16 PM ET #406

    Quote Originally Posted by RLeith35:

    • NCAA BB | (745) INDIANA ST @ (746) SAINT LOUIS | 12/18/2013 8:00 PM
      Play ON SAINT LOUIS using Money Line in Home games after failing to cover the spread in 3 or more consecutive games
      The record is 10 Wins and 1 Losses for all times (10.7 units)

    • NCAA BB | (745) INDIANA ST @ (746) SAINT LOUIS | 12/18/2013 8:00 PM
      Play ON INDIANA ST using Money Line in All games when playing against a team with a winning record
      The record is 14 Wins and 8 Losses for the last 2 seasons (20.9 units)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLeith35:

    • NCAA BB | (745) INDIANA ST @ (746) SAINT LOUIS | 12/18/2013 8:00 PM
      Play ON SAINT LOUIS using Money Line in Home games after failing to cover the spread in 3 or more consecutive games
      The record is 10 Wins and 1 Losses for all times (10.7 units)

    • NCAA BB | (745) INDIANA ST @ (746) SAINT LOUIS | 12/18/2013 8:00 PM
      Play ON INDIANA ST using Money Line in All games when playing against a team with a winning record
      The record is 14 Wins and 8 Losses for the last 2 seasons (20.9 units)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 3:18 PM ET #407

    • NCAA BB | (735) MASSACHUSETTS @ (736) OHIO U | 12/18/2013 7:00 PM
      Play ON MASSACHUSETTS using Money Line in All games in non-conference games
      The record is 26 Wins and 8 Losses for the last 3 seasons (21.35 units) NCAA BB | (735) MASSACHUSETTS @ (736) OHIO U | 12/18/2013 7:00 PM
      Play ON MASSACHUSETTS using Money Line in All games after a non-conference game
      The record is 17 Wins and 4 Losses for the last 2 seasons (14.05 units)
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    • NCAA BB | (735) MASSACHUSETTS @ (736) OHIO U | 12/18/2013 7:00 PM
      Play ON MASSACHUSETTS using Money Line in All games in non-conference games
      The record is 26 Wins and 8 Losses for the last 3 seasons (21.35 units) NCAA BB | (735) MASSACHUSETTS @ (736) OHIO U | 12/18/2013 7:00 PM
      Play ON MASSACHUSETTS using Money Line in All games after a non-conference game
      The record is 17 Wins and 4 Losses for the last 2 seasons (14.05 units)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 3:23 PM ET #408

    This thread is based on ATS St Louis will not cover the spread -10 or what ever the line finally is
    they poss could win on ML but there is no value there IMO
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    This thread is based on ATS St Louis will not cover the spread -10 or what ever the line finally is
    they poss could win on ML but there is no value there IMO
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 3:28 PM ET #409

    as Noted St Louis was Excellent last year 11-0 win streak  they are not the same team this yearand their 0-5 ATS record states it

    what is your wager and what do you get for its win to remove -10 points should devalue your wager deeply
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    as Noted St Louis was Excellent last year 11-0 win streak  they are not the same team this yearand their 0-5 ATS record states it

    what is your wager and what do you get for its win to remove -10 points should devalue your wager deeply
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 3:32 PM ET #410

    Past seasons to me are irrelevant as not the same team and St louis definitely is not the same team as last year so past records mean nothing.Don't waste your money on old Stats
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    Past seasons to me are irrelevant as not the same team and St louis definitely is not the same team as last year so past records mean nothing.Don't waste your money on old Stats
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 4:28 PM ET #411

    Well u know what they say, u can win many times on a win streak & lose only once. u don't seem to consider who is playing who in the matchups u saw what Oregon did last night. If a team is on a streak I don't think Vegas has anything to do with a team covering the spread they just DO. I have found one thing to be consistant in college BB and that is the home team winning way more than the road team does. So i don't bet on road teams period anymore and look for a home team to wager on.
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    Well u know what they say, u can win many times on a win streak & lose only once. u don't seem to consider who is playing who in the matchups u saw what Oregon did last night. If a team is on a streak I don't think Vegas has anything to do with a team covering the spread they just DO. I have found one thing to be consistant in college BB and that is the home team winning way more than the road team does. So i don't bet on road teams period anymore and look for a home team to wager on.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 5:04 PM ET #412

    yes and that is usually why home teams give points and odds makers job to apply the correct amount to balance out the play
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    yes and that is usually why home teams give points and odds makers job to apply the correct amount to balance out the play
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 5:11 PM ET #413

    Vegas does not control games they offer games to wager on

     Odds Makers balance out teams and are the main individuals responsible for play balance with lines

    Home/Away, team structure/ etc are all reviewed by odds makers who apply lines and are the governing people for proper balance
    Teams have nothing to do with lines them selves unless they shave points for $$$
    and that practice is hard to do with out getting caught

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    Vegas does not control games they offer games to wager on

     Odds Makers balance out teams and are the main individuals responsible for play balance with lines

    Home/Away, team structure/ etc are all reviewed by odds makers who apply lines and are the governing people for proper balance
    Teams have nothing to do with lines them selves unless they shave points for $$$
    and that practice is hard to do with out getting caught

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 5:12 PM ET #414

     If i win 10 times on a win streak and then lose once i'm doing pretty good 
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     If i win 10 times on a win streak and then lose once i'm doing pretty good 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 5:20 PM ET #415

    but that is not the thought i was trying to send,What i am saying is as the win streak rises it draws more wagers to continue and as the streak goes higher so does the WAGERS as people will follow BIG WIN streaks as well as fade large Loss Streaks thinking odds makers will continue to screw up and then all of a sudden BAM all hell breaks loose and those mega unit plays all go to Vegas
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    but that is not the thought i was trying to send,What i am saying is as the win streak rises it draws more wagers to continue and as the streak goes higher so does the WAGERS as people will follow BIG WIN streaks as well as fade large Loss Streaks thinking odds makers will continue to screw up and then all of a sudden BAM all hell breaks loose and those mega unit plays all go to Vegas
     
    stevo1
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 5:27 PM ET #416

    RLieth you do not post the wager amount on your plays and that is ok but would like to see the devalue on a play like that and also Umass i do not see  winning at all but we will see
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    RLieth you do not post the wager amount on your plays and that is ok but would like to see the devalue on a play like that and also Umass i do not see  winning at all but we will see
     
    RLeith35
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 5:43 PM ET #417

    I don't bet high money lines alone, i will parlay cross sport or just parlay same sport. I just wonder if u are ahead or behind with this system u are using. I also see alot of home dogs winning & covering in college BB, just look at the percent of home teams that win on any given night. Of course their are alot of things to consider in making a play such as teams current form, series between teams, home & away situations, ect , ect, In any case, good luck with your system !
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    I don't bet high money lines alone, i will parlay cross sport or just parlay same sport. I just wonder if u are ahead or behind with this system u are using. I also see alot of home dogs winning & covering in college BB, just look at the percent of home teams that win on any given night. Of course their are alot of things to consider in making a play such as teams current form, series between teams, home & away situations, ect , ect, In any case, good luck with your system !
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 6:03 PM ET #418

    Pg 355 was the last streak record System post on 12/16 and i do need to up date but if you add up all the w/L streaks you will get systems record and i will up date prior to weeks wnd as we have onl gone 2 more days from post

    3-0 win streaks to stop are 43-32
    4-0 Win Streaks to stop are 16-13
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-7 Little lacking here
    6-0 Win streaks to stop are 3-3
    7-0 Win Streaks to stop are 1-0 
    no team has reached 8-0 but we are awaiting Oregon play 7-0
    and we are looking for them to NOT COVER vs UC Irvine
    ______________________________
    0-3 loss streaks to cover 39-34
    0-4 loss streaks to cover 16-11
    0-5 loss streaks to cover 2-6 Odds makers are not helping
    0-6 loss streaks to cover 3-1 Odds makers doing good job
    0-7 no team has reached 0-7 but Wright St plays 12/19 and needs help
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    Pg 355 was the last streak record System post on 12/16 and i do need to up date but if you add up all the w/L streaks you will get systems record and i will up date prior to weeks wnd as we have onl gone 2 more days from post

    3-0 win streaks to stop are 43-32
    4-0 Win Streaks to stop are 16-13
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-7 Little lacking here
    6-0 Win streaks to stop are 3-3
    7-0 Win Streaks to stop are 1-0 
    no team has reached 8-0 but we are awaiting Oregon play 7-0
    and we are looking for them to NOT COVER vs UC Irvine
    ______________________________
    0-3 loss streaks to cover 39-34
    0-4 loss streaks to cover 16-11
    0-5 loss streaks to cover 2-6 Odds makers are not helping
    0-6 loss streaks to cover 3-1 Odds makers doing good job
    0-7 no team has reached 0-7 but Wright St plays 12/19 and needs help
     
    Rippn808
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 6:18 PM ET #419

    Waiting for the #1 play today Stevo1?? Feeling Umass?
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    Waiting for the #1 play today Stevo1?? Feeling Umass?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 6:32 PM ET #420

    Odds Makers Streak records as of 12/17

    3-0 win streaks to stop are 45-32
    4-0 Win Streaks to stop are 16-13
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-8 
    6-0 Win streaks to stop are  3-4
    7-0 Win Streaks to stop are 1-1 
    8-0 win Streaks to Stop are 0-0 Oregon play 12/21
    No team has risen to 9-0 w streak
    ______________________    68 wins vs 57=+11
    0-3 loss streaks to cover 39-34
    0-4 loss streaks to cover 16-13
    0-5 loss streaks to cover 2-7 
    0-6 loss streaks to cover 3-1
    0-7  Wright St plays 12/19 to cover 0-0 to date
    current record to cover  60-55= +5
    Overall Streak record is 128 wins and 112 loss = +16 wins 
    As you can see it has been easier to control win streaks
    than loss streaks to date

    Understand, we select the better streak plays as season moves on and wager accordingly as we do not play every level at every time  

     This is actual streak record and plz understand we just follow the better streaks at various levels.for example yesterday we went with Wichita St to cover as streak said odds makers are lacking on points allowed and sure enough wright St Covered and now record stands at
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-8 so will continue to play 5-0 win streaks to continue rather than streak objective to stop
                 
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    Odds Makers Streak records as of 12/17

    3-0 win streaks to stop are 45-32
    4-0 Win Streaks to stop are 16-13
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-8 
    6-0 Win streaks to stop are  3-4
    7-0 Win Streaks to stop are 1-1 
    8-0 win Streaks to Stop are 0-0 Oregon play 12/21
    No team has risen to 9-0 w streak
    ______________________    68 wins vs 57=+11
    0-3 loss streaks to cover 39-34
    0-4 loss streaks to cover 16-13
    0-5 loss streaks to cover 2-7 
    0-6 loss streaks to cover 3-1
    0-7  Wright St plays 12/19 to cover 0-0 to date
    current record to cover  60-55= +5
    Overall Streak record is 128 wins and 112 loss = +16 wins 
    As you can see it has been easier to control win streaks
    than loss streaks to date

    Understand, we select the better streak plays as season moves on and wager accordingly as we do not play every level at every time  

     This is actual streak record and plz understand we just follow the better streaks at various levels.for example yesterday we went with Wichita St to cover as streak said odds makers are lacking on points allowed and sure enough wright St Covered and now record stands at
    5-0 Win Streaks to stop are 3-8 so will continue to play 5-0 win streaks to continue rather than streak objective to stop
                 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 6:37 PM ET #421

    Umass to not Cover today  top play at 7-0
    S Utah to cover+ 30.5

    Plz review page 404 for all details

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    Umass to not Cover today  top play at 7-0
    S Utah to cover+ 30.5

    Plz review page 404 for all details

     
    stevo1
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 6:40 PM ET #422

    off to casino Bol today
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    off to casino Bol today
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 6:50 PM ET #423

    Looks good! Bol today buddy

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    Looks good! Bol today buddy

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2013 - 11:58 PM ET #424

    Yikes

    So. Utah needed 30+++ to cover, 11 in the 1st half
    Ugleeeeee   
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    Yikes

    So. Utah needed 30+++ to cover, 11 in the 1st half
    Ugleeeeee   
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 12:10 AM ET #425

    0-2 nice steve
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    0-2 nice steve
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