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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 6:02 PM ET #51

    Sorry meant to say dykstra effective down low
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 6:03 PM ET #52

    I will be on South Dakota State most likely
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 7:36 PM ET #53

    I like the U139 more than either side. I would assume Mich will try and contain Wolters, which should lead to SDST running set plays and working the ball to try to get him shots and the team probably taking a few bad shots as the clock runs down.

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    I like the U139 more than either side. I would assume Mich will try and contain Wolters, which should lead to SDST running set plays and working the ball to try to get him shots and the team probably taking a few bad shots as the clock runs down.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 7:44 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:

    Not very well in a conventional sense.  Jordan Dykstra would much rather shoot from the perimeter and clean up the offensive glass by crashing the boards from the wings than play a straight up C/F position.  Tony Fiegen is undersized but have a scrappy toughness to him.  Chad White only shots from perimeter but plays solid defense.  As a whole the front court really took Baylor off their game last year so who knows.  I think if they match up Trey Burke with Nate Wolters believe it or not Burke is going to have a problem.  Wolters is much taller and has about the same quickness as Burke.  Plus Wolters is the best one on one defender for SDSU and tends to get his opponents in foul trouble.  He is the best player I have ever seen in managing to angle his body on drives to get and ones and has some of the quickest hands I have ever seen.  I still in open court for a lay up or two is nearly a guarantee.  We shall see.


    Great breakdown and analysis. Thank you.

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    Not very well in a conventional sense.  Jordan Dykstra would much rather shoot from the perimeter and clean up the offensive glass by crashing the boards from the wings than play a straight up C/F position.  Tony Fiegen is undersized but have a scrappy toughness to him.  Chad White only shots from perimeter but plays solid defense.  As a whole the front court really took Baylor off their game last year so who knows.  I think if they match up Trey Burke with Nate Wolters believe it or not Burke is going to have a problem.  Wolters is much taller and has about the same quickness as Burke.  Plus Wolters is the best one on one defender for SDSU and tends to get his opponents in foul trouble.  He is the best player I have ever seen in managing to angle his body on drives to get and ones and has some of the quickest hands I have ever seen.  I still in open court for a lay up or two is nearly a guarantee.  We shall see.


    Great breakdown and analysis. Thank you.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 9:22 PM ET #55

    This is one of the bottom 5 defensive teams michigan has played all season!

    Last year versus ohio michigan was 6 point favorite i think?

    This year thespread is at 11.5! Last season i honestly believed michigan would have a tough time with ohio because of the athletic players! We had novak and douglas last season playing major minutes but they just werent that effective!

    This michigan team is way different than last seaso! Michigan is an enigma like someone stated but numbers point towards michigan tnrashing!

    Maybe im an idiot but michigan stock is low and i was always taught to buy low sell high! Michigan by 20! Statement game!

    Michigans freshman big mitch mcgary is playing really well be wary of him down low!
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    This is one of the bottom 5 defensive teams michigan has played all season!

    Last year versus ohio michigan was 6 point favorite i think?

    This year thespread is at 11.5! Last season i honestly believed michigan would have a tough time with ohio because of the athletic players! We had novak and douglas last season playing major minutes but they just werent that effective!

    This michigan team is way different than last seaso! Michigan is an enigma like someone stated but numbers point towards michigan tnrashing!

    Maybe im an idiot but michigan stock is low and i was always taught to buy low sell high! Michigan by 20! Statement game!

    Michigans freshman big mitch mcgary is playing really well be wary of him down low!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 9:24 PM ET #56

    Sdsu conference is considerd 26-32 of the worst conferences!
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 9:38 PM ET #57

    No way I am interested in laying 11 pts to a team that shoots 78% from the charity stripe. This may be one of the few games I lay off of on the side and just take the under. I can help but think if Michigan is up 7-8 pts mid way through the 2nd half that things might get away from the jacks and they win in the 12-15 pt area.
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    No way I am interested in laying 11 pts to a team that shoots 78% from the charity stripe. This may be one of the few games I lay off of on the side and just take the under. I can help but think if Michigan is up 7-8 pts mid way through the 2nd half that things might get away from the jacks and they win in the 12-15 pt area.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2013 - 10:59 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    This is one of the bottom 5 defensive teams michigan has played all season!


    Last year versus ohio michigan was 6 point favorite i think?

    This year thespread is at 11.5! Last season i honestly believed michigan would have a tough time with ohio because of the athletic players! We had novak and douglas last season playing major minutes but they just werent that effective!

    This michigan team is way different than last seaso! Michigan is an enigma like someone stated but numbers point towards michigan tnrashing!

    Maybe im an idiot but michigan stock is low and i was always taught to buy low sell high! Michigan by 20! Statement game!

    Michigans freshman big mitch mcgary is playing really well be wary of him down low!

     blue plays their best when the pressures off and expectations are lowered such is the case now
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    This is one of the bottom 5 defensive teams michigan has played all season!


    Last year versus ohio michigan was 6 point favorite i think?

    This year thespread is at 11.5! Last season i honestly believed michigan would have a tough time with ohio because of the athletic players! We had novak and douglas last season playing major minutes but they just werent that effective!

    This michigan team is way different than last seaso! Michigan is an enigma like someone stated but numbers point towards michigan tnrashing!

    Maybe im an idiot but michigan stock is low and i was always taught to buy low sell high! Michigan by 20! Statement game!

    Michigans freshman big mitch mcgary is playing really well be wary of him down low!

     blue plays their best when the pressures off and expectations are lowered such is the case now
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2013 - 11:02 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by Michfan15:


     blue plays their best when the pressures off and expectations are lowered such is the case now

    Dude if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on Michigan in this game you are crazy.  They just lost an embarrassing game in the first round of the conference tournament.  They $hit the bed at home in their last regular season game.  They CANNOT lose to what sounds like the most hick school in all of the NCAA tournament.  You are kidding if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on this Michigan team and I love it.
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     blue plays their best when the pressures off and expectations are lowered such is the case now

    Dude if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on Michigan in this game you are crazy.  They just lost an embarrassing game in the first round of the conference tournament.  They $hit the bed at home in their last regular season game.  They CANNOT lose to what sounds like the most hick school in all of the NCAA tournament.  You are kidding if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on this Michigan team and I love it.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 12:36 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:


    Dude if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on Michigan in this game you are crazy.  They just lost an embarrassing game in the first round of the conference tournament.  They $hit the bed at home in their last regular season game.  They CANNOT lose to what sounds like the most hick school in all of the NCAA tournament.  You are kidding if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on this Michigan team and I love it.

    2nd round of the conf torny...compared to other points of the season the pressure and hype is much lower now
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    Dude if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on Michigan in this game you are crazy.  They just lost an embarrassing game in the first round of the conference tournament.  They $hit the bed at home in their last regular season game.  They CANNOT lose to what sounds like the most hick school in all of the NCAA tournament.  You are kidding if you don't think there is TONS of pressure on this Michigan team and I love it.

    2nd round of the conf torny...compared to other points of the season the pressure and hype is much lower now
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 12:43 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by buxwin:

    UM basketball is almost as bad as UM football.  i.e. UM football no consensus national champoion ship in 70 years!


    like how you threw in the word "consensus".

    sorry our football program doesn't cheat like yours.  your national championship was a fraud too.  pass interference in the endzone my a$$.

    I'm assuming you're a Bucks fan, seeing how this thread has nothing to do with Ohio St or football yet you managed to chirp your way in here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buxwin:

    UM basketball is almost as bad as UM football.  i.e. UM football no consensus national champoion ship in 70 years!


    like how you threw in the word "consensus".

    sorry our football program doesn't cheat like yours.  your national championship was a fraud too.  pass interference in the endzone my a$$.

    I'm assuming you're a Bucks fan, seeing how this thread has nothing to do with Ohio St or football yet you managed to chirp your way in here.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 12:51 AM ET #62

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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 1:11 AM ET #63

    The over is the play in this game 76-69 
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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    The over is the play in this game 76-69 

    The line movement would suggest that to be true.  I just don't see it.  I think that both teams play more of a half court game and only score uptempo in transition.  The Jacks have done what appears to completely change the style of their play in the last month.  I always scratched my head why they kept insisting on pound the ball down low instead of letting the guards dictate the game.  But I believe that will be their game plan in this game.  We will see if it works or not.  Nate typically scores his most points in the 2H anyway we will see.  BOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    The over is the play in this game 76-69 

    The line movement would suggest that to be true.  I just don't see it.  I think that both teams play more of a half court game and only score uptempo in transition.  The Jacks have done what appears to completely change the style of their play in the last month.  I always scratched my head why they kept insisting on pound the ball down low instead of letting the guards dictate the game.  But I believe that will be their game plan in this game.  We will see if it works or not.  Nate typically scores his most points in the 2H anyway we will see.  BOL!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 12:07 PM ET #65

    the mich st fans will be on s.d. st side in this one and you will have more dog love then one would suspect.  Everyone keeps talking wolters wolters wolters, but the fact is this team is balanced.  They have four double figure scorers and a great inside presence in dykstra.  I love this sd st team and beilein always shits the bed bc they are so perimeter oriented in tourney games.  I will never forget when he blew a 25 pt lead against ville when he had his best team at wvu

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    the mich st fans will be on s.d. st side in this one and you will have more dog love then one would suspect.  Everyone keeps talking wolters wolters wolters, but the fact is this team is balanced.  They have four double figure scorers and a great inside presence in dykstra.  I love this sd st team and beilein always shits the bed bc they are so perimeter oriented in tourney games.  I will never forget when he blew a 25 pt lead against ville when he had his best team at wvu

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by payne034:

    the mich st fans will be on s.d. st side in this one and you will have more dog love then one would suspect.  Everyone keeps talking wolters wolters wolters, but the fact is this team is balanced.  They have four double figure scorers and a great inside presence in dykstra.  I love this sd st team and beilein always shits the bed bc they are so perimeter oriented in tourney games.  I will never forget when he blew a 25 pt lead against ville when he had his best team at wvu

    The only thing I have to disagree with you about regarding this post is that Dykstra really does not play much with his back to the rim.  He prefers to shoot threes from the elbows, crash the boards from the corners, get offensive put backs.  Once in a while he will play in the post but that is much more Tony Fiegen's game than Jordan Dykstra.  That being said Jordan is truely the wild card in this game.  If he goes off a SU win is a strong possibility.  Nater is going to Nate; Fiegen will get his few buckets; White will hit some threes; it really does come down to Jordan.  He has the tendency to vanish in big games and I really hope that is not the case tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by payne034:

    the mich st fans will be on s.d. st side in this one and you will have more dog love then one would suspect.  Everyone keeps talking wolters wolters wolters, but the fact is this team is balanced.  They have four double figure scorers and a great inside presence in dykstra.  I love this sd st team and beilein always shits the bed bc they are so perimeter oriented in tourney games.  I will never forget when he blew a 25 pt lead against ville when he had his best team at wvu

    The only thing I have to disagree with you about regarding this post is that Dykstra really does not play much with his back to the rim.  He prefers to shoot threes from the elbows, crash the boards from the corners, get offensive put backs.  Once in a while he will play in the post but that is much more Tony Fiegen's game than Jordan Dykstra.  That being said Jordan is truely the wild card in this game.  If he goes off a SU win is a strong possibility.  Nater is going to Nate; Fiegen will get his few buckets; White will hit some threes; it really does come down to Jordan.  He has the tendency to vanish in big games and I really hope that is not the case tonight.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 12:20 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by Trey_Burke:

    I like the Wolverines to cover the spread!

    LOL... thanks Trey_Burke.  Cannot talk you into a little point shaving can I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey_Burke:

    I like the Wolverines to cover the spread!

    LOL... thanks Trey_Burke.  Cannot talk you into a little point shaving can I?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 1:36 PM ET #68

    michigan will score at least 80 in this one factor that in however you choose if your playing the o/u
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 1:39 PM ET #69

    wolters accoutns for 47% of their offense jesus ii dont see how sdsu will have a shot or be able to keep up against such a well rounded team the michigan
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 3:06 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by Michfan15:

    wolters accoutns for 47% of their offense jesus ii dont see how sdsu will have a shot or be able to keep up against such a well rounded team the michigan

    Please stop spreading misinformation.  Wolters average 22.7 points a game.  The Jacks average 73.9 points per game.  That accounts for 30.7% of the offense and not 47%.  Not sure where you got your math from but check again.  It should also be noted that the Jacks have four (nearly all have starters) as double digit scorers.  They are pretty well balanced with Nate leading the attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michfan15:

    wolters accoutns for 47% of their offense jesus ii dont see how sdsu will have a shot or be able to keep up against such a well rounded team the michigan

    Please stop spreading misinformation.  Wolters average 22.7 points a game.  The Jacks average 73.9 points per game.  That accounts for 30.7% of the offense and not 47%.  Not sure where you got your math from but check again.  It should also be noted that the Jacks have four (nearly all have starters) as double digit scorers.  They are pretty well balanced with Nate leading the attack.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 3:07 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by Michfan15:

    michigan will score at least 80 in this one factor that in however you choose if your playing the o/u

    If you really feel that way then the safest plays for you will either be the Michigan ML or the Michigan team total over 76.5.  Either way BOL!

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    michigan will score at least 80 in this one factor that in however you choose if your playing the o/u

    If you really feel that way then the safest plays for you will either be the Michigan ML or the Michigan team total over 76.5.  Either way BOL!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 3:28 PM ET #72

    . Close as you can get to playing a home game, b1g teams are tough at home. Gonna take mich. BOL to all. 
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 9:55 PM ET #73

    Nice call Michigan backers.  Jacks ran out of steam in the end.  Just could not buy a bucket.  Despite their worst offensive game I have ever seen them play in terms of continuity they missed the spread by a couple.  Good game, close game, fun game.  BOL!
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    Nice call Michigan backers.  Jacks ran out of steam in the end.  Just could not buy a bucket.  Despite their worst offensive game I have ever seen them play in terms of continuity they missed the spread by a couple.  Good game, close game, fun game.  BOL!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2013 - 11:52 PM ET #74


    btw jesron wolters averages ~6 assists per game that translates to at least another 12 points of offense, likely more b/c of how many 3's they take so the 47% figure is not misinformation

    vcu should be a great game tough game but i am confident
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    btw jesron wolters averages ~6 assists per game that translates to at least another 12 points of offense, likely more b/c of how many 3's they take so the 47% figure is not misinformation

    vcu should be a great game tough game but i am confident
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2013 - 1:38 PM ET #75

    Good call man.  

    Lookin forward to VCU/Mich.
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    Good call man.  

    Lookin forward to VCU/Mich.
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