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    bookieassassin
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 8:58 PM ET #1

    1)  Try to identify a match-up where one team wants to be there > motivated to win
    and the other team is not ...
         * has a team already achieved it's goals?...or > is there more work to be done?..
         * fade the team with high hopes..that had season come crashing down late...
         * fade the average team ...that closed it's season with a huge win
         * play on ...a strong team that performed poorly in LY's bowl
         * if neither care...OR...both do...maybe look to play total > avoid side play

    2)  Play on the team with the stronger "bowl coach"...fade the team that has consistently
        played poorly in bowls.....some coaches just want the extra practice time to get his team ready
        for next year.....some guys know how to get their team ready

    3)  Beware the long lay-off...fade the team that has been off for a long time...especially if playing
        a team that has not ...

    4)  BEST BET?....pick the SU winner of the game...as that team almost always covers
         ***** so consider a ML play instead if you like the dog

    5)  Lean to the team with the stronger QB

    6)  Consider crowd edge and weather factors...a team from the south has maybe been able to practice
        outside every day...a northern team maybe only a few..(do they have an indoor practice facility?)
        also a southern team traveling to cold weather watch out....some teams travel very well...some very few  make the trip..

    7)  In general...look to play on the team with the very strong D...fade the team with strong O and weak D

    8)  Fade the "bowl virgin".....a team that has never been to a bowl...or hasn't been in a long time...
        is often "just happy to be there"....

    9)  Fade turnover prone teams..the long lay-off will not help

    10) Strongly consider strength of schedule....
         * use early (conference) results to help you predict later games

    11) Fade the Heisman winner...not a freakish trend....a huge time commitment leaves him often fat and
        looking more to NFL than playing another game..plus line is often inflated

    12) Beware the team with the interim coach...you would think FADE...seems like just the opposite lately


     


                
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
    Reply
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    1)  Try to identify a match-up where one team wants to be there > motivated to win
    and the other team is not ...
         * has a team already achieved it's goals?...or > is there more work to be done?..
         * fade the team with high hopes..that had season come crashing down late...
         * fade the average team ...that closed it's season with a huge win
         * play on ...a strong team that performed poorly in LY's bowl
         * if neither care...OR...both do...maybe look to play total > avoid side play

    2)  Play on the team with the stronger "bowl coach"...fade the team that has consistently
        played poorly in bowls.....some coaches just want the extra practice time to get his team ready
        for next year.....some guys know how to get their team ready

    3)  Beware the long lay-off...fade the team that has been off for a long time...especially if playing
        a team that has not ...

    4)  BEST BET?....pick the SU winner of the game...as that team almost always covers
         ***** so consider a ML play instead if you like the dog

    5)  Lean to the team with the stronger QB

    6)  Consider crowd edge and weather factors...a team from the south has maybe been able to practice
        outside every day...a northern team maybe only a few..(do they have an indoor practice facility?)
        also a southern team traveling to cold weather watch out....some teams travel very well...some very few  make the trip..

    7)  In general...look to play on the team with the very strong D...fade the team with strong O and weak D

    8)  Fade the "bowl virgin".....a team that has never been to a bowl...or hasn't been in a long time...
        is often "just happy to be there"....

    9)  Fade turnover prone teams..the long lay-off will not help

    10) Strongly consider strength of schedule....
         * use early (conference) results to help you predict later games

    11) Fade the Heisman winner...not a freakish trend....a huge time commitment leaves him often fat and
        looking more to NFL than playing another game..plus line is often inflated

    12) Beware the team with the interim coach...you would think FADE...seems like just the opposite lately


     


                
     
    CapAmsShield
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:04 PM ET #2

    i always emphasize a huge decision on who to take by motivation.... it has helped a lot in the past and you learn that the teams that really want to be tehre will come out on top...
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    i always emphasize a huge decision on who to take by motivation.... it has helped a lot in the past and you learn that the teams that really want to be tehre will come out on top...
     
    Laroja
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:06 PM ET #3

    Should we fade OKlahoma lol? Stoops is their coach and they came from NC aspirations to the Insight bowl against Iowa LOL.
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    Should we fade OKlahoma lol? Stoops is their coach and they came from NC aspirations to the Insight bowl against Iowa LOL.
     
    fsutomahawk
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:07 PM ET #4

    One word

    Motivation
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    One word

    Motivation
     
    bookieassassin
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:08 PM ET #5

    13)  Beware the team likely...or possibly losing their coach...> sometimes doesn't matter...possibly deadly
        * watch out for the OC/DC that leaves
    Nebraska DC Pelini already gone to FAU

    Houston   Sumlin was/is a hot prospect
    Louisville
    Iowa St
    S Miss
    Vandy??
    La Tech    Sonny Dykes likely to go?......
     
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
    Reply
    13)  Beware the team likely...or possibly losing their coach...> sometimes doesn't matter...possibly deadly
        * watch out for the OC/DC that leaves
    Nebraska DC Pelini already gone to FAU

    Houston   Sumlin was/is a hot prospect
    Louisville
    Iowa St
    S Miss
    Vandy??
    La Tech    Sonny Dykes likely to go?......
     
     
    Laroja
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:09 PM ET #6

    Are you talking about Franklin? He got an extension and his staff got a bonus.
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    Are you talking about Franklin? He got an extension and his staff got a bonus.
     
    nc1capper
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:11 PM ET #7

    Bookie- said this many , many time  and will say it again- you are one of the hardest working (and sharpest) cappers on this site - look forward to keeping a close eye on your work thru out the bowl season, best of luck to you - tar heel eyes will be watching,,meantime,, UNDER 56.5 for lions -saints tonight ~~~~~~~~~just another day in the grinder
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    Bookie- said this many , many time  and will say it again- you are one of the hardest working (and sharpest) cappers on this site - look forward to keeping a close eye on your work thru out the bowl season, best of luck to you - tar heel eyes will be watching,,meantime,, UNDER 56.5 for lions -saints tonight ~~~~~~~~~just another day in the grinder
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:12 PM ET #8

    A lot of these strategies call for fading OKst. Agree?
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    A lot of these strategies call for fading OKst. Agree?
     
    nc1capper
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:13 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:

    Should we fade OKlahoma lol? Stoops is their coach and they came from NC aspirations to the Insight bowl against Iowa LOL.
    not me ,I have these cowpokes focused and really expect a shootout here- duh- guessing jumping on the OVER at first blush maybe the safest way as I would not expect there will be many under players for that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:

    Should we fade OKlahoma lol? Stoops is their coach and they came from NC aspirations to the Insight bowl against Iowa LOL.
    not me ,I have these cowpokes focused and really expect a shootout here- duh- guessing jumping on the OVER at first blush maybe the safest way as I would not expect there will be many under players for that one
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:15 PM ET #10

    I think Southern Miss might be the most motivated team out there.

    Just my opinion

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    I think Southern Miss might be the most motivated team out there.

    Just my opinion

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:15 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    1)  Try to identify a match-up where one team wants to be there > motivated to win
    and the other team is not ...
         * has a team already achieved it's goals?...or > is there more work to be done?..
         * fade the team with high hopes..that had season come crashing down late...
         * fade the average team ...that closed it's season with a huge win
         * play on ...a strong team that performed poorly in LY's bowl
         * if neither care...OR...both do...maybe look to play total > avoid side play

    2)  Play on the team with the stronger "bowl coach"...fade the team that has consistently
        played poorly in bowls.....some coaches just want the extra practice time to get his team ready
        for next year.....some guys know how to get their team ready

    3)  Beware the long lay-off...fade the team that has been off for a long time...especially if playing
        a team that has not ...

    4)  BEST BET?....pick the SU winner of the game...as that team almost always covers
         ***** so consider a ML play instead if you like the dog

    5)  Lean to the team with the stronger QB

    6)  Consider crowd edge and weather factors...a team from the south has maybe been able to practice
        outside every day...a northern team maybe only a few..(do they have an indoor practice facility?)
        also a southern team traveling to cold weather watch out....some teams travel very well...some very few  make the trip..

    7)  In general...look to play on the team with the very strong D...fade the team with strong O and weak D

    8)  Fade the "bowl virgin".....a team that has never been to a bowl...or hasn't been in a long time...
        is often "just happy to be there"....

    9)  Fade turnover prone teams..the long lay-off will not help

    10) Strongly consider strength of schedule....
         * use early (conference) results to help you predict later games

    11) Fade the Heisman winner...not a freakish trend....a huge time commitment leaves him often fat and
        looking more to NFL than playing another game..plus line is often inflated

    12) Beware the team with the interim coach...you would think FADE...seems like just the opposite lately


     


                



    Damn you broke that down like a pro.  I'm gonna keep that posted on my wall for the Bowl Season.. 
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    1)  Try to identify a match-up where one team wants to be there > motivated to win
    and the other team is not ...
         * has a team already achieved it's goals?...or > is there more work to be done?..
         * fade the team with high hopes..that had season come crashing down late...
         * fade the average team ...that closed it's season with a huge win
         * play on ...a strong team that performed poorly in LY's bowl
         * if neither care...OR...both do...maybe look to play total > avoid side play

    2)  Play on the team with the stronger "bowl coach"...fade the team that has consistently
        played poorly in bowls.....some coaches just want the extra practice time to get his team ready
        for next year.....some guys know how to get their team ready

    3)  Beware the long lay-off...fade the team that has been off for a long time...especially if playing
        a team that has not ...

    4)  BEST BET?....pick the SU winner of the game...as that team almost always covers
         ***** so consider a ML play instead if you like the dog

    5)  Lean to the team with the stronger QB

    6)  Consider crowd edge and weather factors...a team from the south has maybe been able to practice
        outside every day...a northern team maybe only a few..(do they have an indoor practice facility?)
        also a southern team traveling to cold weather watch out....some teams travel very well...some very few  make the trip..

    7)  In general...look to play on the team with the very strong D...fade the team with strong O and weak D

    8)  Fade the "bowl virgin".....a team that has never been to a bowl...or hasn't been in a long time...
        is often "just happy to be there"....

    9)  Fade turnover prone teams..the long lay-off will not help

    10) Strongly consider strength of schedule....
         * use early (conference) results to help you predict later games

    11) Fade the Heisman winner...not a freakish trend....a huge time commitment leaves him often fat and
        looking more to NFL than playing another game..plus line is often inflated

    12) Beware the team with the interim coach...you would think FADE...seems like just the opposite lately


     


                



    Damn you broke that down like a pro.  I'm gonna keep that posted on my wall for the Bowl Season.. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:16 PM ET #12

    Give me Michigan st + whatever vs georgia
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    Give me Michigan st + whatever vs georgia
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:24 PM ET #13

    FADE?
        *not auto dammit....just consider in terms of disappointment.....

    Okie St
    OU !
    HOUSTON
    Texas A&M
    Ariz St
    Boise
    Illinois
    Notre Dame?
    Tulsa?
    Utah??


    PLAY ON ?.....

    Baylor***
    Kan St
    Texas ??....very young team that should be much better the next time we see them
    Wyoming
    Ark
    NW
    Mich St
    Rutgers
    Tulsa
    Georgia
    Fla ???
    Michigan?
    Clemson
    Fla St?
    Nebraska?


    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    FADE?
        *not auto dammit....just consider in terms of disappointment.....

    Okie St
    OU !
    HOUSTON
    Texas A&M
    Ariz St
    Boise
    Illinois
    Notre Dame?
    Tulsa?
    Utah??


    PLAY ON ?.....

    Baylor***
    Kan St
    Texas ??....very young team that should be much better the next time we see them
    Wyoming
    Ark
    NW
    Mich St
    Rutgers
    Tulsa
    Georgia
    Fla ???
    Michigan?
    Clemson
    Fla St?
    Nebraska?


     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:27 PM ET #14

    Fade Va Tech
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    Fade Va Tech
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:31 PM ET #15

    Great thread

    I loooooove bowl season
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    Great thread

    I loooooove bowl season
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:32 PM ET #16

    I agree with everything you are saying Bookie but I think Houston absolutly rolls Penn state.
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    I agree with everything you are saying Bookie but I think Houston absolutly rolls Penn state.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:33 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    not me ,I have these cowpokes focused and really expect a shootout here- duh- guessing jumping on the OVER at first blush maybe the safest way as I would not expect there will be many under players for that one


    I'm talking about the sooners man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    not me ,I have these cowpokes focused and really expect a shootout here- duh- guessing jumping on the OVER at first blush maybe the safest way as I would not expect there will be many under players for that one


    I'm talking about the sooners man.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:38 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I think Southern Miss might be the most motivated team out there.

    Just my opinion

    Why so?  They just won their Super Bowl, and got stuck in a crappy bowl against a mediocre team as their reward. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I think Southern Miss might be the most motivated team out there.

    Just my opinion

    Why so?  They just won their Super Bowl, and got stuck in a crappy bowl against a mediocre team as their reward. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:39 PM ET #19

    forgot....add Ark St HC Hugh Freeze to that list..

    supposedly Ole Miss is interested....

    Vandy's Franklin will maybe be offered a (much) better job
    *as we have seen many times....somehow a contract doesn't matter
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    forgot....add Ark St HC Hugh Freeze to that list..

    supposedly Ole Miss is interested....

    Vandy's Franklin will maybe be offered a (much) better job
    *as we have seen many times....somehow a contract doesn't matter
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:40 PM ET #20

    Great stuff bookie!    This is what this site used to be about, not a bunch of loud mouth punks talkilng shit!  Let's blow the books up this season! 
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    Great stuff bookie!    This is what this site used to be about, not a bunch of loud mouth punks talkilng shit!  Let's blow the books up this season! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:41 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I agree with everything you are saying Bookie but I think Houston absolutly rolls Penn state.


    only licensed shrinks...should be allowed to bet on that game....
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I agree with everything you are saying Bookie but I think Houston absolutly rolls Penn state.


    only licensed shrinks...should be allowed to bet on that game....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:42 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by crocnzeeba:

    Why so?  They just won their Super Bowl, and got stuck in a crappy bowl against a mediocre team as their reward. 

    They feel like they should have earned a BCS bowl game by beating Houston (I don't, they do tho)

    They also play great defense and I expect them to be fired up.

    Their coach seemed extremly motivated in his post game conference and this should carry over to the team.

    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by crocnzeeba:

    Why so?  They just won their Super Bowl, and got stuck in a crappy bowl against a mediocre team as their reward. 

    They feel like they should have earned a BCS bowl game by beating Houston (I don't, they do tho)

    They also play great defense and I expect them to be fired up.

    Their coach seemed extremly motivated in his post game conference and this should carry over to the team.

    Just my opinion

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:42 PM ET #23

    1) Try to identify a match-up where one team wants to be there > motivated to win
    and the other team is not ...

     

     Was planning on fading a disinterested Vols team but apparently they didn't want to go Nashville or Memphis so bad that they refused to beat Kentucky to gain Bowl eligibility. 

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    1) Try to identify a match-up where one team wants to be there > motivated to win
    and the other team is not ...

     

     Was planning on fading a disinterested Vols team but apparently they didn't want to go Nashville or Memphis so bad that they refused to beat Kentucky to gain Bowl eligibility. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:43 PM ET #24

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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:50 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    They feel like they should have earned a BCS bowl game by beating Houston (I don't, they do tho)

    They also play great defense and I expect them to be fired up.

    Their coach seemed extremly motivated in his post game conference and this should carry over to the team.

    Just my opinion

    Appreciate your perspective.  I'm certainly not high on my Nevada Wolf Pack in that one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    They feel like they should have earned a BCS bowl game by beating Houston (I don't, they do tho)

    They also play great defense and I expect them to be fired up.

    Their coach seemed extremly motivated in his post game conference and this should carry over to the team.

    Just my opinion

    Appreciate your perspective.  I'm certainly not high on my Nevada Wolf Pack in that one...

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