STL ranked 101.8 vs. PHI 100.5 If you go back and look at ever game every day these numbers will change as NABIL pointed out.... so everyday I have been going and writing the ranks out on every team... By the end of this series, STL could be ranked lower depending on how it goes... What I am saying is IF the team ranked low today wins... the Lowest ranked team (daily basis) wins the series 80% of the time (so far this year) IF the team that ranks highest wins tonite (ie STL) the highest (daily ranked team) will win 78% of the time...
On everygame I have tables (NERD ALERT) that rank each team GREATER OR LESS based on the "unnamed website" GO AND CHECK!!! THESE are the results...
You are creating an analog of the system we are trying to execute.
So, if you hold off on Game 1, to see the results, which of the remaining two games do you wager on...........? Your numbers don't say these teams sweep. If your results are as strong as you mention and you have some protocol to use your results, start a new "Nabil analog" system thread, and you could put it in Mains or "Systems & Strategies".................
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Quote Originally Posted by glefkb01:
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STL ranked 101.8 vs. PHI 100.5 If you go back and look at ever game every day these numbers will change as NABIL pointed out.... so everyday I have been going and writing the ranks out on every team... By the end of this series, STL could be ranked lower depending on how it goes... What I am saying is IF the team ranked low today wins... the Lowest ranked team (daily basis) wins the series 80% of the time (so far this year) IF the team that ranks highest wins tonite (ie STL) the highest (daily ranked team) will win 78% of the time...
On everygame I have tables (NERD ALERT) that rank each team GREATER OR LESS based on the "unnamed website" GO AND CHECK!!! THESE are the results...
You are creating an analog of the system we are trying to execute.
So, if you hold off on Game 1, to see the results, which of the remaining two games do you wager on...........? Your numbers don't say these teams sweep. If your results are as strong as you mention and you have some protocol to use your results, start a new "Nabil analog" system thread, and you could put it in Mains or "Systems & Strategies".................
So 1 of every 5 series, there's a team that wins Game 1 then loses the next 2 (bear in mind I'm just using 3-game series as an example). 4 of 5 times, a team that wins the first game wins another in the series (either Game 2, Game 3, or both).
I'm not sure that's a surprise to anyone. I'm not trying to argue - the more information, the better - but I'm not sure I see your point. The only thing I see here is, if teams split the first 2 games of a series, odds are the team that won Game 1 will win Game 3. Otherwise, you're still speculating on which of the next 2 games the Game 1 winner will take - although I guess if you bet both, worst you can do is break even 80% of the time.
Am I getting this right?
Oh OK.......From the results you can find a team that wins game 1 and loses the next two..........Right........
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Quote Originally Posted by SixTen:
So 1 of every 5 series, there's a team that wins Game 1 then loses the next 2 (bear in mind I'm just using 3-game series as an example). 4 of 5 times, a team that wins the first game wins another in the series (either Game 2, Game 3, or both).
I'm not sure that's a surprise to anyone. I'm not trying to argue - the more information, the better - but I'm not sure I see your point. The only thing I see here is, if teams split the first 2 games of a series, odds are the team that won Game 1 will win Game 3. Otherwise, you're still speculating on which of the next 2 games the Game 1 winner will take - although I guess if you bet both, worst you can do is break even 80% of the time.
Am I getting this right?
Oh OK.......From the results you can find a team that wins game 1 and loses the next two..........Right........
My play of the day is NYY.To big of a line to play them outright,so i will parlay them with the Red Sox both on the run line.I like SixTens Tor.play,but Cleveland with M.Talbot are going to be tough.Best of luck though SixTen. BOL TO ALL TONIGHT.
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My play of the day is NYY.To big of a line to play them outright,so i will parlay them with the Red Sox both on the run line.I like SixTens Tor.play,but Cleveland with M.Talbot are going to be tough.Best of luck though SixTen. BOL TO ALL TONIGHT.
So 1 of every 5 series, there's a team that wins Game 1 then loses the next 2 (bear in mind I'm just using 3-game series as an example). 4 of 5 times, a team that wins the first game wins another in the series (either Game 2, Game 3, or both).
I'm not sure that's a surprise to anyone. I'm not trying to argue - the more information, the better - but I'm not sure I see your point. The only thing I see here is, if teams split the first 2 games of a series, odds are the team that won Game 1 will win Game 3. Otherwise, you're still speculating on which of the next 2 games the Game 1 winner will take - although I guess if you bet both, worst you can do is break even 80% of the time.
Am I getting this right?
I will have to post as we go through this next series... I am not creating a new system its just something I noticed when trending the rankings on a day to day basis as Nabil suggested.
I am not saying they sweep... because in the STL/PHI series for example... STL may not be the higher ranked team by the end of the series...(in my tables I have been trending...STL may be ranked less than PHI by 5 points in game one...and then STL wins let's say... Now PHI may be still be ranked higher the next day because despite the loss the previous day but now in game 2 they are only 3 points higher ranked ... What I have noticed the lesser ranked team (STL) have won the series 80% of the time this year..... So lets say game 2 STL wins again Now in game 3 PHI is ranked less than STL because of 2 losses...EVERYDAY THE NUMBER RANKINGS CHANGE, as Nabil suggested...I have just been sitting back and watching the numbers for the past few weeks and I am just stating what I have noticed.....
It may get benefiical betting on dogs (lesser ranked) teams as they usually are...Still watching so I will keep you posted...
Hasnt any one noticed that the team that is usually ranked 5plus points higher has usually lossed in game one???
Nabil is still thinking I am a hater, but Hasnt anyone noticed the spike in rankings between serious, like PITT gets swept be someone and they are ranked 95 or someting and then they are ranked 101 for game 1 of the next series... Been watching those numbers too...
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Quote Originally Posted by SixTen:
So 1 of every 5 series, there's a team that wins Game 1 then loses the next 2 (bear in mind I'm just using 3-game series as an example). 4 of 5 times, a team that wins the first game wins another in the series (either Game 2, Game 3, or both).
I'm not sure that's a surprise to anyone. I'm not trying to argue - the more information, the better - but I'm not sure I see your point. The only thing I see here is, if teams split the first 2 games of a series, odds are the team that won Game 1 will win Game 3. Otherwise, you're still speculating on which of the next 2 games the Game 1 winner will take - although I guess if you bet both, worst you can do is break even 80% of the time.
Am I getting this right?
I will have to post as we go through this next series... I am not creating a new system its just something I noticed when trending the rankings on a day to day basis as Nabil suggested.
I am not saying they sweep... because in the STL/PHI series for example... STL may not be the higher ranked team by the end of the series...(in my tables I have been trending...STL may be ranked less than PHI by 5 points in game one...and then STL wins let's say... Now PHI may be still be ranked higher the next day because despite the loss the previous day but now in game 2 they are only 3 points higher ranked ... What I have noticed the lesser ranked team (STL) have won the series 80% of the time this year..... So lets say game 2 STL wins again Now in game 3 PHI is ranked less than STL because of 2 losses...EVERYDAY THE NUMBER RANKINGS CHANGE, as Nabil suggested...I have just been sitting back and watching the numbers for the past few weeks and I am just stating what I have noticed.....
It may get benefiical betting on dogs (lesser ranked) teams as they usually are...Still watching so I will keep you posted...
Hasnt any one noticed that the team that is usually ranked 5plus points higher has usually lossed in game one???
Nabil is still thinking I am a hater, but Hasnt anyone noticed the spike in rankings between serious, like PITT gets swept be someone and they are ranked 95 or someting and then they are ranked 101 for game 1 of the next series... Been watching those numbers too...
I see your points, but we've repeatedly discussed the volatility of the rankings so early in the season. The more games are played, the less affect they'll have on the rankings - they'll start to level out.
It's interesting that you note though most favorites in the PR system have lost the first game. I haven't tracked every one so I don't know for sure, but I doubt you're giving misinformation to sabotage. By the time I jumped on board on April 23rd (a Friday), I'm 2-2 in Game 1's (today's TOR pick will be my 5th Game 1). That accounts for 2 of my 3 losses, so you might have something there.
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I see your points, but we've repeatedly discussed the volatility of the rankings so early in the season. The more games are played, the less affect they'll have on the rankings - they'll start to level out.
It's interesting that you note though most favorites in the PR system have lost the first game. I haven't tracked every one so I don't know for sure, but I doubt you're giving misinformation to sabotage. By the time I jumped on board on April 23rd (a Friday), I'm 2-2 in Game 1's (today's TOR pick will be my 5th Game 1). That accounts for 2 of my 3 losses, so you might have something there.
To sum it up I am gonna hold off and jump on the 3rd game of the series... I think that there has been 3 4 game series and 1 or 2 2 game series... The 2 games series both split and the 4 game series split 2 out of 3....
I agree as the season progresses things always seem to jump to a 50/50 trend and most people lose as they chase it down. We will see as the season moves on and interleague games start...
If I had the time...maybe... i will look at last year for a few months and see if this trend continued or faded...
BOL on your pick...Jiminez cant win every game he starts!
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You are right SixTen...
To sum it up I am gonna hold off and jump on the 3rd game of the series... I think that there has been 3 4 game series and 1 or 2 2 game series... The 2 games series both split and the 4 game series split 2 out of 3....
I agree as the season progresses things always seem to jump to a 50/50 trend and most people lose as they chase it down. We will see as the season moves on and interleague games start...
If I had the time...maybe... i will look at last year for a few months and see if this trend continued or faded...
BOL on your pick...Jiminez cant win every game he starts!
I agree with you on Jimenez - I think he's set up to drop a 3-2 game tonight. Still, I'm not sure enough to make a play either way. I'm just on TOR and a TOR/NYY parlay.
I think an interesting amendment to this system is, after Game 1's are played, outline the remaining 2 of the series and focus on the best option for the winner of Game 1 to win again. That's what the odds are telling us happens 80% of the time, right? I'm willing to include that into our pick evaluations.
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I agree with you on Jimenez - I think he's set up to drop a 3-2 game tonight. Still, I'm not sure enough to make a play either way. I'm just on TOR and a TOR/NYY parlay.
I think an interesting amendment to this system is, after Game 1's are played, outline the remaining 2 of the series and focus on the best option for the winner of Game 1 to win again. That's what the odds are telling us happens 80% of the time, right? I'm willing to include that into our pick evaluations.
Jays & Yanks get it done - another good night for me. Also, the thread is now 10-4.
Considering the Jays win tonight, the "winner of Game 1 wins series 80% of the time" & the fact that they're tossing another strong lefty at CLE tomorrow (Ricky Romero), that game will be at/near the top of my list tomorrow. Looking forward to the discussion.
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Jays & Yanks get it done - another good night for me. Also, the thread is now 10-4.
Considering the Jays win tonight, the "winner of Game 1 wins series 80% of the time" & the fact that they're tossing another strong lefty at CLE tomorrow (Ricky Romero), that game will be at/near the top of my list tomorrow. Looking forward to the discussion.
Nice, Al - I was just about to do that. I like that you only took the top 3, too. Everyone else has an advantage of under 3. I know we've gone below the +5 bar, but, to me, going below 3 seems to
render the advantages of this system useless.
Combining everything we've discussed here, it seems like the plays should be ranked in this order:
TOR - Won first game of series, throwing another strong lefty at a team who just can't hit them. Also, Westbrook's 5.53 ERA doesn't bode well against a Jays team that's been hitting the ball very well lately.
TB - Rays are hot. They're near the middle of the pack against lefties (.241) but they're also 3rd overall in runs scored against them - so I don't think Vargas is too much of a threat. Shields has been awesome of late - 3 straight wins and a career 2.34 ERA/1.02 WHIP/.224 BAA over 6 starts vs SEA. Mariners have scored 3 runs only once in their past 7 - why would they all of a sudden break out against the best staff ERA in the AL?
NYY - for obvious reasons. I rank this 3rd mostly because of the line. There's much more value in the above 2 games, so why take less money if there are other options just as strong (if not better)?
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Nice, Al - I was just about to do that. I like that you only took the top 3, too. Everyone else has an advantage of under 3. I know we've gone below the +5 bar, but, to me, going below 3 seems to
render the advantages of this system useless.
Combining everything we've discussed here, it seems like the plays should be ranked in this order:
TOR - Won first game of series, throwing another strong lefty at a team who just can't hit them. Also, Westbrook's 5.53 ERA doesn't bode well against a Jays team that's been hitting the ball very well lately.
TB - Rays are hot. They're near the middle of the pack against lefties (.241) but they're also 3rd overall in runs scored against them - so I don't think Vargas is too much of a threat. Shields has been awesome of late - 3 straight wins and a career 2.34 ERA/1.02 WHIP/.224 BAA over 6 starts vs SEA. Mariners have scored 3 runs only once in their past 7 - why would they all of a sudden break out against the best staff ERA in the AL?
NYY - for obvious reasons. I rank this 3rd mostly because of the line. There's much more value in the above 2 games, so why take less money if there are other options just as strong (if not better)?
NYY is gonna start off cloudy but gonna get rained on after an hour. Seattle will be raining all day long. Ive learned to stay away from raining games. I think toronto is the the most stable play today.. U never know what crazy shit happens when there's rain involved...
NYY is gonna start off cloudy but gonna get rained on after an hour. Seattle will be raining all day long. Ive learned to stay away from raining games. I think toronto is the the most stable play today.. U never know what crazy shit happens when there's rain involved...
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