The divisions worked perfectly while the top group hitting better than the lower one and the third group hitting worse. It will take time until we figure out the most profitable combination of top 10-15 handicappers.
14-9
12-10
1-10
27-29 (one win was ML +130)
2730-3190=--460 -460$
The divisions worked perfectly while the top group hitting better than the lower one and the third group hitting worse. It will take time until we figure out the most profitable combination of top 10-15 handicappers.
The divisions worked perfectly while the top group hitting better than the lower one and the third group hitting worse. It will take time until we figure out the most profitable combination of top 10-15 handicappers.
14-9
12-10
1-10
I hope that as a group we are not scoreboard watching but making our notes reading our notes and learning new things every day. A pick without a reasoning is just gambling not handicapping, while by definition it is all gambling because a wager is being placed when you do your homework you improve your odds, I suck at NBA but have been getting a little better as I wait for September.
Thanks for the thread and the kind words Mavin.
Quote Originally Posted by SportsMavin:
27-29 (one win was ML +130)
2730-3190=--460 -460$
The divisions worked perfectly while the top group hitting better than the lower one and the third group hitting worse. It will take time until we figure out the most profitable combination of top 10-15 handicappers.
14-9
12-10
1-10
I hope that as a group we are not scoreboard watching but making our notes reading our notes and learning new things every day. A pick without a reasoning is just gambling not handicapping, while by definition it is all gambling because a wager is being placed when you do your homework you improve your odds, I suck at NBA but have been getting a little better as I wait for September.
I hope that as a group we are not scoreboard watching but making our notes reading our notes and learning new things every day. A pick without a reasoning is just gambling not handicapping, while by definition it is all gambling because a wager is being placed when you do your homework you improve your odds, I suck at NBA but have been getting a little better as I wait for September.
Thanks for the thread and the kind words Mavin.
Precisely. I am running the board for the order and for us to evaluate our responsibility while posting, but the real work is done with each and every handicapper making notes on losses and wins compared with what he thought before the game and retrieving the rights and wrongs to better the handicapping the very next time each time
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
I hope that as a group we are not scoreboard watching but making our notes reading our notes and learning new things every day. A pick without a reasoning is just gambling not handicapping, while by definition it is all gambling because a wager is being placed when you do your homework you improve your odds, I suck at NBA but have been getting a little better as I wait for September.
Thanks for the thread and the kind words Mavin.
Precisely. I am running the board for the order and for us to evaluate our responsibility while posting, but the real work is done with each and every handicapper making notes on losses and wins compared with what he thought before the game and retrieving the rights and wrongs to better the handicapping the very next time each time
The hawks have played denver once this year and denver lost by 4 points in atl. atl gives up 95 points on the road. as well as atlanta shoots the 3 ball at almost 5% higher than denver. if you look at the last 5 games atl scores 105 while giving up 99, denver scores 112 while giving up 107. all of this to me adds up to a much closer than a 10 point game. i have a gut feeling on atlanta in this one as well. which is not always the right way to go but i feel confident in this game that atl covers.
charlotte is 2-7 in their last 9 while loosing in all of their losses by 13 points or more. most by 20 points+ portland is comming off of a good strong win and will like to end this home stand with another strong win. charlotte is on thier 4th consecutive road game but they have been on the road for 7 days now and i beleive they will fall apart yet again as they have proven to be the worst team in the league with the worst road record. portland should fly by charlotte in a blowout win.
may add later if any of the lines that come out interest me
GL everyone
KJacobs2O3 (6-1)
mondays plays
ATL hawks +10
POR trailblazers -12.5
The hawks have played denver once this year and denver lost by 4 points in atl. atl gives up 95 points on the road. as well as atlanta shoots the 3 ball at almost 5% higher than denver. if you look at the last 5 games atl scores 105 while giving up 99, denver scores 112 while giving up 107. all of this to me adds up to a much closer than a 10 point game. i have a gut feeling on atlanta in this one as well. which is not always the right way to go but i feel confident in this game that atl covers.
charlotte is 2-7 in their last 9 while loosing in all of their losses by 13 points or more. most by 20 points+ portland is comming off of a good strong win and will like to end this home stand with another strong win. charlotte is on thier 4th consecutive road game but they have been on the road for 7 days now and i beleive they will fall apart yet again as they have proven to be the worst team in the league with the worst road record. portland should fly by charlotte in a blowout win.
may add later if any of the lines that come out interest me
The hawks have played denver once this year and denver lost by 4 points in atl. atl gives up 95 points on the road. as well as atlanta shoots the 3 ball at almost 5% higher than denver. if you look at the last 5 games atl scores 105 while giving up 99, denver scores 112 while giving up 107. all of this to me adds up to a much closer than a 10 point game. i have a gut feeling on atlanta in this one as well. which is not always the right way to go but i feel confident in this game that atl covers.
charlotte is 2-7 in their last 9 while loosing in all of their losses by 13 points or more. most by 20 points+ portland is comming off of a good strong win and will like to end this home stand with another strong win. charlotte is on thier 4th consecutive road game but they have been on the road for 7 days now and i beleive they will fall apart yet again as they have proven to be the worst team in the league with the worst road record. portland should fly by charlotte in a blowout win.
may add later if any of the lines that come out interest me
GL everyone
KJacobs2O3 (6-1)
mondays plays
ATL hawks +10
POR trailblazers -12.5
The hawks have played denver once this year and denver lost by 4 points in atl. atl gives up 95 points on the road. as well as atlanta shoots the 3 ball at almost 5% higher than denver. if you look at the last 5 games atl scores 105 while giving up 99, denver scores 112 while giving up 107. all of this to me adds up to a much closer than a 10 point game. i have a gut feeling on atlanta in this one as well. which is not always the right way to go but i feel confident in this game that atl covers.
charlotte is 2-7 in their last 9 while loosing in all of their losses by 13 points or more. most by 20 points+ portland is comming off of a good strong win and will like to end this home stand with another strong win. charlotte is on thier 4th consecutive road game but they have been on the road for 7 days now and i beleive they will fall apart yet again as they have proven to be the worst team in the league with the worst road record. portland should fly by charlotte in a blowout win.
may add later if any of the lines that come out interest me
I like the fact Cle has beat NY the last 4 games @hm all as underdogs. Cle playing decent ball and NY not really. Liking Cle here, prob be one of my plays, Maybe ml
- 9.5Mia @ Minn
Minny not playing well, Mia does very well on 0 rest day's. This one could get ugly for Minny. Thinking Mia 98 -82
+10.5Atl @ Den / under 212 (Atl prob play today)
I beleive this spread is too much. Atl has played some very close games in Den since their last win there. Den does not play well on nights with 2 days rest. Seeing a low scoring battle here, the total might be way too high. Atl on no rest scoring is low, only giving up 91 pts /gm on 14 games played with no rest. scoring an avg of 5 more on 0 rest for a total of 187, Den on 2 days rest avg 107 total. So If you can see atl keeping the score down here as they do without rest and meet these 2 totals in the middle, we could be looking at a game scoring aroung 195-197? totals @ 211? Seems way off to me. Looking at the total regarding days off numbers.
+8.5Orl@ NO / over 194.5
NO on 2 day rest give up an avg 10 pts more than scoring. NO 0-3 su/ats vs no rest teams, 1-5 su/ats on 2 days rest overall. I think this one might eclipse this total
Char @ Port -13 (probable play #3)
I don't think much needs being said on this one, Port should walk away with this one. Char won't be able to put up the points tonight to hang around. In recent history Port has Beat up Char by this amount at hm, and with Char recent losses of much greater than this, I can't see this game turning out any better for them.
An early look at the games/leans
Ny @Cle +2.5 ( cle probable play today)
I like the fact Cle has beat NY the last 4 games @hm all as underdogs. Cle playing decent ball and NY not really. Liking Cle here, prob be one of my plays, Maybe ml
- 9.5Mia @ Minn
Minny not playing well, Mia does very well on 0 rest day's. This one could get ugly for Minny. Thinking Mia 98 -82
+10.5Atl @ Den / under 212 (Atl prob play today)
I beleive this spread is too much. Atl has played some very close games in Den since their last win there. Den does not play well on nights with 2 days rest. Seeing a low scoring battle here, the total might be way too high. Atl on no rest scoring is low, only giving up 91 pts /gm on 14 games played with no rest. scoring an avg of 5 more on 0 rest for a total of 187, Den on 2 days rest avg 107 total. So If you can see atl keeping the score down here as they do without rest and meet these 2 totals in the middle, we could be looking at a game scoring aroung 195-197? totals @ 211? Seems way off to me. Looking at the total regarding days off numbers.
+8.5Orl@ NO / over 194.5
NO on 2 day rest give up an avg 10 pts more than scoring. NO 0-3 su/ats vs no rest teams, 1-5 su/ats on 2 days rest overall. I think this one might eclipse this total
Char @ Port -13 (probable play #3)
I don't think much needs being said on this one, Port should walk away with this one. Char won't be able to put up the points tonight to hang around. In recent history Port has Beat up Char by this amount at hm, and with Char recent losses of much greater than this, I can't see this game turning out any better for them.
Your Parlay Bonus of 93.87 has been added to your returns.
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No of Bets
Unit Risk
Risk
To Return
Returns
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5.00
60.00
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The Blackhawks have been the play of the year imagine a 10 team open parlay with them lol it would be up to the 3rd set of 10 with $50 at -150 that is 8k per set lol- while it's very hard to hit 5-10 in a day over 90 days if you are patient it can be done- I wish I knew Hockey well- but the NFL will come soon enough-
Quote Originally Posted by lrempel:
Selections
No.
Selections
Event
Event Date
E/W Terms
Odds
Result
1
MIA Heat
MIA Heat @ NY Knicks (Money Line)
03/03/2013
None
1.52
Won
2
MIA Heat -4.5
MIA Heat @ NY Knicks (Point Spread)
03/03/2013
None
1.90
Won
3
CHI Blackhawks
CHI Blackhawks @ DET Redwings (Money Line)
03/03/2013
None
1.90
Won
4
Under 6.0
CHI Blackhawks @ DET Redwings (Game Totals)
03/03/2013
None
1.47
Won
5
Under 5.5
CHI Blackhawks @ DET Redwings (Game Totals)
03/03/2013
None
1.68
Won
6
Under 5.0
CHI Blackhawks @ DET Redwings (Game Totals)
03/03/2013
None
2.05
Won
7
OKC Thunder +5.5
OKC Thunder @ LA Clippers (Point Spread)
03/03/2013
None
1.54
Won
8
OKC Thunder +9.5
OKC Thunder @ LA Clippers (Point Spread)
03/03/2013
None
1.29
Won
9
Over 4.0
EDM Oilers @ MIN Wild (Game Totals)
03/03/2013
None
1.41
Won
Your Parlay Bonus of 93.87 has been added to your returns.
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The Blackhawks have been the play of the year imagine a 10 team open parlay with them lol it would be up to the 3rd set of 10 with $50 at -150 that is 8k per set lol- while it's very hard to hit 5-10 in a day over 90 days if you are patient it can be done- I wish I knew Hockey well- but the NFL will come soon enough-
I like the fact Cle has beat NY the last 4 games @hm all as underdogs. Cle playing decent ball and NY not really. Liking Cle here, prob be one of my plays, Maybe ml
- 9.5Mia @ Minn
Minny not playing well, Mia does very well on 0 rest day's. This one could get ugly for Minny. Thinking Mia 98 -82
+10.5Atl @ Den / under 212 (Atl prob play today)
I beleive this spread is too much. Atl has played some very close games in Den since their last win there. Den does not play well on nights with 2 days rest. Seeing a low scoring battle here, the total might be way too high. Atl on no rest scoring is low, only giving up 91 pts /gm on 14 games played with no rest. scoring an avg of 5 more on 0 rest for a total of 187, Den on 2 days rest avg 107 total. So If you can see atl keeping the score down here as they do without rest and meet these 2 totals in the middle, we could be looking at a game scoring aroung 195-197? totals @ 211? Seems way off to me. Looking at the total regarding days off numbers.
+8.5Orl@ NO / over 194.5
NO on 2 day rest give up an avg 10 pts more than scoring. NO 0-3 su/ats vs no rest teams, 1-5 su/ats on 2 days rest overall. I think this one might eclipse this total
Char @ Port -13 (probable play #3)
I don't think much needs being said on this one, Port should walk away with this one. Char won't be able to put up the points tonight to hang around. In recent history Port has Beat up Char by this amount at hm, and with Char recent losses of much greater than this, I can't see this game turning out any better for them.
the heat line makes very little sense if any at all I was expecting the line to be closer to -15 that being said is it a trap game? who knows butt a much lesser laker team wiped the floor with the wolves recently so it is very strange unless they are basing it on the motivation factor (lack thereof) and the hard game yesterday-
Quote Originally Posted by lrempel:
An early look at the games/leans
Ny @Cle +2.5 ( cle probable play today)
I like the fact Cle has beat NY the last 4 games @hm all as underdogs. Cle playing decent ball and NY not really. Liking Cle here, prob be one of my plays, Maybe ml
- 9.5Mia @ Minn
Minny not playing well, Mia does very well on 0 rest day's. This one could get ugly for Minny. Thinking Mia 98 -82
+10.5Atl @ Den / under 212 (Atl prob play today)
I beleive this spread is too much. Atl has played some very close games in Den since their last win there. Den does not play well on nights with 2 days rest. Seeing a low scoring battle here, the total might be way too high. Atl on no rest scoring is low, only giving up 91 pts /gm on 14 games played with no rest. scoring an avg of 5 more on 0 rest for a total of 187, Den on 2 days rest avg 107 total. So If you can see atl keeping the score down here as they do without rest and meet these 2 totals in the middle, we could be looking at a game scoring aroung 195-197? totals @ 211? Seems way off to me. Looking at the total regarding days off numbers.
+8.5Orl@ NO / over 194.5
NO on 2 day rest give up an avg 10 pts more than scoring. NO 0-3 su/ats vs no rest teams, 1-5 su/ats on 2 days rest overall. I think this one might eclipse this total
Char @ Port -13 (probable play #3)
I don't think much needs being said on this one, Port should walk away with this one. Char won't be able to put up the points tonight to hang around. In recent history Port has Beat up Char by this amount at hm, and with Char recent losses of much greater than this, I can't see this game turning out any better for them.
the heat line makes very little sense if any at all I was expecting the line to be closer to -15 that being said is it a trap game? who knows butt a much lesser laker team wiped the floor with the wolves recently so it is very strange unless they are basing it on the motivation factor (lack thereof) and the hard game yesterday-
KrishBreezy 10-8 NY Knicks -2.5 MIN Twolves +10 GS Warriors -6
illnesses affecting the cavs + i dont believe kyrie will be at 100% Miami playing 3rd game in 4nights, minn plays better D at home + well rested (even though only 9 active bodies) GSW back at home after a long road trip against the raptors w/ happy questionable
KrishBreezy 10-8 NY Knicks -2.5 MIN Twolves +10 GS Warriors -6
illnesses affecting the cavs + i dont believe kyrie will be at 100% Miami playing 3rd game in 4nights, minn plays better D at home + well rested (even though only 9 active bodies) GSW back at home after a long road trip against the raptors w/ happy questionable
the heat line makes very little sense if any at all I was expecting the line to be closer to -15 that being said is it a trap game? who knows butt a much lesser laker team wiped the floor with the wolves recently so it is very strange unless they are basing it on the motivation factor (lack thereof) and the hard game yesterday-
I used to pay much attention to the lines that the WCLC puts out for western Canada. I kept track of all the lines and how each number did. There was 2 lines in particular that stood out like a sore thumb. -6.5 and 9.5 pt fav's. 80% of the time, these lines would go in the favor of the underdog, and many of these games the underdog outright won. Yes online today Mia is 9.5, however, at the wclc, they have the line set at 11.5 already ( and that line doesn't change during the day). However 2 games that do fall into this criteria today, would be Orl and Atl. Both these games they have pegged as 9.5 underdogs. It's nice when I looked at the games as Orl +8.5 and Atl +10.5 and beleived both these two teams would cover tonight, and then when I look at wclc just moments ago and seen the lines they have, I feel that much better about those 2 covering today :) It's not what I base my pick's around, but when I see those two numbers -9.5 and 6.5, my hair stands up on the back of my neck lol. So back to your statement of the Mia game, you watch through the day and by day's end that line will most likely be up around 11-11.5 I like it . as stated in my post regarding that game, I see a 18-24 pt win tonight for Mia. They play great this year 2nd game of b2b, and I can see them dismantling Minny.
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
the heat line makes very little sense if any at all I was expecting the line to be closer to -15 that being said is it a trap game? who knows butt a much lesser laker team wiped the floor with the wolves recently so it is very strange unless they are basing it on the motivation factor (lack thereof) and the hard game yesterday-
I used to pay much attention to the lines that the WCLC puts out for western Canada. I kept track of all the lines and how each number did. There was 2 lines in particular that stood out like a sore thumb. -6.5 and 9.5 pt fav's. 80% of the time, these lines would go in the favor of the underdog, and many of these games the underdog outright won. Yes online today Mia is 9.5, however, at the wclc, they have the line set at 11.5 already ( and that line doesn't change during the day). However 2 games that do fall into this criteria today, would be Orl and Atl. Both these games they have pegged as 9.5 underdogs. It's nice when I looked at the games as Orl +8.5 and Atl +10.5 and beleived both these two teams would cover tonight, and then when I look at wclc just moments ago and seen the lines they have, I feel that much better about those 2 covering today :) It's not what I base my pick's around, but when I see those two numbers -9.5 and 6.5, my hair stands up on the back of my neck lol. So back to your statement of the Mia game, you watch through the day and by day's end that line will most likely be up around 11-11.5 I like it . as stated in my post regarding that game, I see a 18-24 pt win tonight for Mia. They play great this year 2nd game of b2b, and I can see them dismantling Minny.
Knicks are 0-5 ATS in the last 5 meetings in
Cleveland.
Knicks are 0-5-1 ATS in their last 6 games
following a S.U. loss.
Knicks are 0-4-1 ATS in their last 5 when their opponent
allows 100 points or more in their previous game.
Knicks are 1-8-1 ATS in their last 10 games overall.
I would gladly take a well-rested Cleveland here with a healthy Kyrie
Irving and Dion Waiters with revenge on their minds against a Knicks team on
b2b and with C. Anthony having a right arm injury
TOR Raptors+6
I have taken into consideration the fact that Raptors are 0-7 ATS in the last 7 meetings in
Golden State. Both teams with 4
consecutive losses each but I like the trend fading the team on its first home
game after 4 or 5 games on the road. Likewise,
I like the fact that the Raptors are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 road games vs. a
team with a winning home record.
I just hope Rudy happy won’t play as evident by the return of offense on Raptors’
loss against Milwaukee.
CHAR Bobcats+12.5
Trail Blazers are 1-9 ATS in
their last 10 games vs. a team with a winning % below .400.
Fading the public this Monday...
czaqtorres 10-4
CLE Cavaliers+2.5
Knicks are 0-5 ATS in the last 5 meetings in
Cleveland.
Knicks are 0-5-1 ATS in their last 6 games
following a S.U. loss.
Knicks are 0-4-1 ATS in their last 5 when their opponent
allows 100 points or more in their previous game.
Knicks are 1-8-1 ATS in their last 10 games overall.
I would gladly take a well-rested Cleveland here with a healthy Kyrie
Irving and Dion Waiters with revenge on their minds against a Knicks team on
b2b and with C. Anthony having a right arm injury
TOR Raptors+6
I have taken into consideration the fact that Raptors are 0-7 ATS in the last 7 meetings in
Golden State. Both teams with 4
consecutive losses each but I like the trend fading the team on its first home
game after 4 or 5 games on the road. Likewise,
I like the fact that the Raptors are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 road games vs. a
team with a winning home record.
I just hope Rudy happy won’t play as evident by the return of offense on Raptors’
loss against Milwaukee.
CHAR Bobcats+12.5
Trail Blazers are 1-9 ATS in
their last 10 games vs. a team with a winning % below .400.
czaqtorres Are you fading the public with that line on Char? Char last 4 visits to Port resulted in losses of 44,24,11 and 14 pt losses, Port taking the spread in all those with the 44 pt loss being their last visit. Coming off the skid they are on, do you actually see them stepping up vs a squad that last beat them by 44, seeing Char is coming off straight losses by 36,30,22,14,and 30? Just curious because your only thought on the game is that Port plays bad teams badly, however this is one team that they have proved in recent years they can destroy. Are you seeing them bouncing back today after such losses and Port thinking they are walking into a runaway contest?
czaqtorres Are you fading the public with that line on Char? Char last 4 visits to Port resulted in losses of 44,24,11 and 14 pt losses, Port taking the spread in all those with the 44 pt loss being their last visit. Coming off the skid they are on, do you actually see them stepping up vs a squad that last beat them by 44, seeing Char is coming off straight losses by 36,30,22,14,and 30? Just curious because your only thought on the game is that Port plays bad teams badly, however this is one team that they have proved in recent years they can destroy. Are you seeing them bouncing back today after such losses and Port thinking they are walking into a runaway contest?
@ czaqtorres You did have a great day yesterday :) Just everyway I look at this game, I don't see Char stepping up and doing anymore than they did yesterday, getting their behinds handed to them on a gold platter.
@ czaqtorres You did have a great day yesterday :) Just everyway I look at this game, I don't see Char stepping up and doing anymore than they did yesterday, getting their behinds handed to them on a gold platter.
actually, i don't have any solid stats to back my play on Charlotte...what i put on my thread was just to back my play...all stats that are available would point to Portland as the right play...its just i have a gut feel (again) that fading the public consensus is the right play...i don't know how i would be able to explain these picks through tangible facts...sometimes its just my instinct telling me what to pick...
@irempel
actually, i don't have any solid stats to back my play on Charlotte...what i put on my thread was just to back my play...all stats that are available would point to Portland as the right play...its just i have a gut feel (again) that fading the public consensus is the right play...i don't know how i would be able to explain these picks through tangible facts...sometimes its just my instinct telling me what to pick...
hopefully i can get back on track! 
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