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    1st half, 2nd half OVER UNDER theory - all tourney long

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    Lowme
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2016 - 7:05 PM ET #4126

    Dayton was a blip strong day toronto over 
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    Dayton was a blip strong day toronto over 
     
    GIANFRANCO1114
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2016 - 7:17 PM ET #4127

    1H CLIPPERS OVER 

    SYSTEM NOW 61-18

    +500
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    1H CLIPPERS OVER 

    SYSTEM NOW 61-18

    +500
     
    GIANFRANCO1114
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2016 - 7:30 PM ET #4128

    for those that have been following since 2013 or those that have read 4100+ posts in this thread you can see I really have tried different things. so I would like imput from those that have followed for a while and not posting stupid stuff in here.....

    on the spreadhseet...............
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 

    you will now see 1H record and 2H record

    also at the bottom you will have a tab labeled 1000/1500

    here is my thinking .....

    1H plays in 2016 are 39-39-1

    2H plays in 2016 are 22-18

    if I changed 2H bets to 1500 instead of 2000 the 2016 profit would be 1700 instead of 500

    now here is the question .... long term ... do you think we (really I) should change to 1500 or keep 2H wagers at 2k

    also I am open to any other suggestions or questions if we did something else ... can recalculate records based on changes to see what it would be. can reply here , inbox me, email me, dont care ... when I have done systems like this I always enjoy taking a step back, analyzing, and adjusting if I find a better solution.

    remember for newbees ,.. i do this system with a small % of my bankroll ..,.. it is VERY STREAKY .. can win or lose alot in a row.. and even tho I am sarcastic I dont act like I am better then anyone. Just enjoy the challenge of winning and enjoy trying to help people.

    i am all ears........................
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    for those that have been following since 2013 or those that have read 4100+ posts in this thread you can see I really have tried different things. so I would like imput from those that have followed for a while and not posting stupid stuff in here.....

    on the spreadhseet...............
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 

    you will now see 1H record and 2H record

    also at the bottom you will have a tab labeled 1000/1500

    here is my thinking .....

    1H plays in 2016 are 39-39-1

    2H plays in 2016 are 22-18

    if I changed 2H bets to 1500 instead of 2000 the 2016 profit would be 1700 instead of 500

    now here is the question .... long term ... do you think we (really I) should change to 1500 or keep 2H wagers at 2k

    also I am open to any other suggestions or questions if we did something else ... can recalculate records based on changes to see what it would be. can reply here , inbox me, email me, dont care ... when I have done systems like this I always enjoy taking a step back, analyzing, and adjusting if I find a better solution.

    remember for newbees ,.. i do this system with a small % of my bankroll ..,.. it is VERY STREAKY .. can win or lose alot in a row.. and even tho I am sarcastic I dont act like I am better then anyone. Just enjoy the challenge of winning and enjoy trying to help people.

    i am all ears........................
     
    GIANFRANCO1114
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2016 - 7:35 PM ET #4129

    important ............

    i messed up in calculating the 1000/1500 tab 

    1H and 2H losers I had -2650 not -2750

    so actually betting 1000 / 1500 would = -$100

    so that is $600 worse

    so now I really am even more intrigued to see if there is a better way

    sorry for confusion
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    important ............

    i messed up in calculating the 1000/1500 tab 

    1H and 2H losers I had -2650 not -2750

    so actually betting 1000 / 1500 would = -$100

    so that is $600 worse

    so now I really am even more intrigued to see if there is a better way

    sorry for confusion
     
    GIANFRANCO1114
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2016 - 11:33 PM ET #4130

    talking to people through pm and email ... looks like sticking with 1k / 2k wagers....................
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    talking to people through pm and email ... looks like sticking with 1k / 2k wagers....................
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 9:41 AM ET #4131

    just keep winning buddy, doesn't matter to us how you're wagering as I'm sure we all have our own wager system!
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    just keep winning buddy, doesn't matter to us how you're wagering as I'm sure we all have our own wager system!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 2:15 PM ET #4132

    Great stuff newcompa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 

    So now you will see a tab with NBA and CBB

    NBA System 28-3 +16900

    1H 16-15 -500

    2H 12-3 +17400

    CBB System 33-15 -16400

    1H 23-24-1 -3400

    2H 10-15 -13000

    WOW what an eye opener!!! Time to adjust CBB and focus on NBA until complete!!!!!

    This is what I am talking about!!!!! Helping each other to win!!!!

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    Great stuff newcompa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 

    So now you will see a tab with NBA and CBB

    NBA System 28-3 +16900

    1H 16-15 -500

    2H 12-3 +17400

    CBB System 33-15 -16400

    1H 23-24-1 -3400

    2H 10-15 -13000

    WOW what an eye opener!!! Time to adjust CBB and focus on NBA until complete!!!!!

    This is what I am talking about!!!!! Helping each other to win!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 2:52 PM ET #4133

    Quote Originally Posted by GIANFRANCO1114:

    Great stuff newcompa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 So now you will see a tab with NBA and CBBNBA System 28-3 +169001H 16-15 -5002H 12-3 +17400CBB System 33-15 -164001H 23-24-1 -34002H 10-15 -13000WOW what an eye opener!!! Time to adjust CBB and focus on NBA until complete!!!!!This is what I am talking about!!!!! Helping each other to win!!!!


    J/w how how the system is 28-3 but forst half n 2nd half is almost even.. im lost. Just tryna follow u here
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANFRANCO1114:

    Great stuff newcompa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 So now you will see a tab with NBA and CBBNBA System 28-3 +169001H 16-15 -5002H 12-3 +17400CBB System 33-15 -164001H 23-24-1 -34002H 10-15 -13000WOW what an eye opener!!! Time to adjust CBB and focus on NBA until complete!!!!!This is what I am talking about!!!!! Helping each other to win!!!!


    J/w how how the system is 28-3 but forst half n 2nd half is almost even.. im lost. Just tryna follow u here
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 3:09 PM ET #4134

    Quote Originally Posted by K1NGSTON:



    J/w how how the system is 28-3 but forst half n 2nd half is almost even.. im lost. Just tryna follow u here

    28-3 is only for NBA.

    Those are system losses, therefore you need to loose your 1H & 2H bet. Those 12 wins in the 2H actually covered the 1H lost and gets you +1 unit, since the bet is doubled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K1NGSTON:



    J/w how how the system is 28-3 but forst half n 2nd half is almost even.. im lost. Just tryna follow u here

    28-3 is only for NBA.

    Those are system losses, therefore you need to loose your 1H & 2H bet. Those 12 wins in the 2H actually covered the 1H lost and gets you +1 unit, since the bet is doubled.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 4:46 PM ET #4135

    Good teamwork guys. Just wanted to add a couple of more twists:

    - besides conference plays bringing lower 1H scores, Early games specially 12 noon/1Pm EST games might be showing lower 1H scores, (another subset would be west coast games at 12-1pm EST)

    - secondly, on Saturday's the results are different than non-major-public betting days. public likes overs/lots of points. if you can look at your results based on day of the week it might shed some light if.

    - lastly i have noticed with other systems as well. what works during earlier session of a FULL day fails (or goes even) for 7pm games and then reverses again at 10pm games.

    - books even change their use of lines from month to month, so if someone was betting every 72.5 2H line in January and crushing it, would fail every time in February. Which is why all systems need constant tweaking. 

    Just some thoughts. hope this helps us narrow down profitable plays and makes us all some money. BOL and thanks for all your work.
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    Good teamwork guys. Just wanted to add a couple of more twists:

    - besides conference plays bringing lower 1H scores, Early games specially 12 noon/1Pm EST games might be showing lower 1H scores, (another subset would be west coast games at 12-1pm EST)

    - secondly, on Saturday's the results are different than non-major-public betting days. public likes overs/lots of points. if you can look at your results based on day of the week it might shed some light if.

    - lastly i have noticed with other systems as well. what works during earlier session of a FULL day fails (or goes even) for 7pm games and then reverses again at 10pm games.

    - books even change their use of lines from month to month, so if someone was betting every 72.5 2H line in January and crushing it, would fail every time in February. Which is why all systems need constant tweaking. 

    Just some thoughts. hope this helps us narrow down profitable plays and makes us all some money. BOL and thanks for all your work.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 5:01 PM ET #4136

    Good stuff here gents!!!!
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    Good stuff here gents!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 5:52 PM ET #4137

    Quote Originally Posted by GIANFRANCO1114:

    Great stuff newcompa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 

    So now you will see a tab with NBA and CBB

    NBA System 28-3 +16900

    1H 16-15 -500

    2H 12-3 +17400

    CBB System 33-15 -16400

    1H 23-24-1 -3400

    2H 10-15 -13000

    WOW what an eye opener!!! Time to adjust CBB and focus on NBA until complete!!!!!

    This is what I am talking about!!!!! Helping each other to win!!!!



    What's your criteria to determine a play ? The way you have it set up
    Seems like NBA 2h is the way to go and I would agree with Train on his
    Total thoughts as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANFRANCO1114:

    Great stuff newcompa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9ggxcGCMYHdFF5SkFRUDN5em1jTXVQLTVXTFpzV0E#gid=2 

    So now you will see a tab with NBA and CBB

    NBA System 28-3 +16900

    1H 16-15 -500

    2H 12-3 +17400

    CBB System 33-15 -16400

    1H 23-24-1 -3400

    2H 10-15 -13000

    WOW what an eye opener!!! Time to adjust CBB and focus on NBA until complete!!!!!

    This is what I am talking about!!!!! Helping each other to win!!!!



    What's your criteria to determine a play ? The way you have it set up
    Seems like NBA 2h is the way to go and I would agree with Train on his
    Total thoughts as well.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 6:05 PM ET #4138

    I agree that even though the sample is very small with no back testing possible unless you can clearly define your criteria for picking a certain NBA 1H over, at least in short term money can be made by either:

    - you pick the NBA or 1H over as you normally do but:

    a) not bet and see if it goes under and bet normal amount 1u on 2H, OR
    b) bet 0.5u and if it goes under bet 4 times as much at 2u (still not exceeding your 2k limit)

    This might help reduce variability of your bankroll and help build a bankroll while you adjust the CBB system.

    Have you looked at 2H results of the NBA games you won in 1H? Is there an OVER-OVER pattern or OVER-UNDER pattern that forms as money maker?

    - all this will be subjective upon "how you pick your 1H bet"...don't change that yet for NBA, just adjust it with 1H result pattern. Mind you all this might need tweaking again after allstar break because teams change how they play. 
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    I agree that even though the sample is very small with no back testing possible unless you can clearly define your criteria for picking a certain NBA 1H over, at least in short term money can be made by either:

    - you pick the NBA or 1H over as you normally do but:

    a) not bet and see if it goes under and bet normal amount 1u on 2H, OR
    b) bet 0.5u and if it goes under bet 4 times as much at 2u (still not exceeding your 2k limit)

    This might help reduce variability of your bankroll and help build a bankroll while you adjust the CBB system.

    Have you looked at 2H results of the NBA games you won in 1H? Is there an OVER-OVER pattern or OVER-UNDER pattern that forms as money maker?

    - all this will be subjective upon "how you pick your 1H bet"...don't change that yet for NBA, just adjust it with 1H result pattern. Mind you all this might need tweaking again after allstar break because teams change how they play. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 6:23 PM ET #4139

    1H WOLVES / CAVS OVER 104

    1100-1000
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    1H WOLVES / CAVS OVER 104

    1100-1000
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:04 PM ET #4140

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    kindred
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:05 PM ET #4141

    Quote Originally Posted by GIANFRANCO1114:

    1H WOLVES / CAVS OVER 104

    1100-1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIANFRANCO1114:

    1H WOLVES / CAVS OVER 104

    1100-1000

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:06 PM ET #4142

    Starting off with winner. Nice
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    Starting off with winner. Nice
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:10 PM ET #4143

    At least a 10 min delay on this site
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    At least a 10 min delay on this site
     
    MelBear
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:10 PM ET #4144

    Forgive me, but play double Cavs 2nh over 101.5?  Thanks and best of luck....
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    Forgive me, but play double Cavs 2nh over 101.5?  Thanks and best of luck....
     
    kindred
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:13 PM ET #4145

    Quote Originally Posted by MelBear:

    Forgive me, but play double Cavs 2nh over 101.5?  Thanks and best of luck....

    NO. 1H won, no play on the 2H. Only play 2H when the 1H loses or pushes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelBear:

    Forgive me, but play double Cavs 2nh over 101.5?  Thanks and best of luck....

    NO. 1H won, no play on the 2H. Only play 2H when the 1H loses or pushes.
     
    MelBear
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:18 PM ET #4146

    Thanks kindred....
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    Thanks kindred....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 8:28 PM ET #4147

    Quote Originally Posted by MelBear:

    Thanks kindred....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelBear:

    Thanks kindred....

     
    GIANFRANCO1114
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 9:27 PM ET #4148

    1H SPURS / WARRIORS OVER 102

    1100-1000
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    1H SPURS / WARRIORS OVER 102

    1100-1000
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 9:46 PM ET #4149

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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 10:32 PM ET #4150

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