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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:03 PM ET #151

    lilmikecav, your last post is like an oxymoron in a way b/c the prop bets you have listed ARE DIRECT relations to who you believe will win the actual football game.
     
    If you think OSU is going to win the game: I believe for your prop bets (and I'll list them in order that u have listed) are:
     
    Over 195.5 passing yards (since you know LSU is coming to stop Wells)
    Under 112.5 Rushing yards by Chris Wells
    Over 1.5 TD passes by Boeckman
     
    AND I would never bet the receiving prop........NEVER EVER bet a receiver prop b/c receiver props are too hard to determine b/c they are factors of a lot of different things that you can't even fathom (offensive line play, how the defense is aligned (zone or man-man), if the QB is accurate, if the receiver doesn't drop a pass, who's gonna be double teammed, who's going one on one)
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    lilmikecav, your last post is like an oxymoron in a way b/c the prop bets you have listed ARE DIRECT relations to who you believe will win the actual football game.
     
    If you think OSU is going to win the game: I believe for your prop bets (and I'll list them in order that u have listed) are:
     
    Over 195.5 passing yards (since you know LSU is coming to stop Wells)
    Under 112.5 Rushing yards by Chris Wells
    Over 1.5 TD passes by Boeckman
     
    AND I would never bet the receiving prop........NEVER EVER bet a receiver prop b/c receiver props are too hard to determine b/c they are factors of a lot of different things that you can't even fathom (offensive line play, how the defense is aligned (zone or man-man), if the QB is accurate, if the receiver doesn't drop a pass, who's gonna be double teammed, who's going one on one)
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:03 PM ET #152

    Still haven't decided yet. I had a good bowl season and would hate to give it back.
     
    One concern is the LSU dual QB's.  OSU had some trouble with the Juice from Illinois.  I could see LSU game planning to use Flynn and Ryan Perrilloux in certain situations. I think that might confuse the OSU defense.
     
     
    Although Les Miles is an idiot and basically had this team handed to him by no other then the GENIUS, Nick "Satan" Saban he does have good assistant coaches around him.

    One of the best in the business is Bo Pelini, Def. Coordinator.
     
     
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    Still haven't decided yet. I had a good bowl season and would hate to give it back.
     
    One concern is the LSU dual QB's.  OSU had some trouble with the Juice from Illinois.  I could see LSU game planning to use Flynn and Ryan Perrilloux in certain situations. I think that might confuse the OSU defense.
     
     
    Although Les Miles is an idiot and basically had this team handed to him by no other then the GENIUS, Nick "Satan" Saban he does have good assistant coaches around him.

    One of the best in the business is Bo Pelini, Def. Coordinator.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:15 PM ET #153

    Below are the teams that were on OSU's schedule this year. I have asterisked the teams that I feel have a running QB.
     
    Youngstown State
    Akron
    Washington ***
    Northwestern
    Minnesota
    Purdue
    Kent State
    Michigan State
    Penn State
    Wisconsin
    Illinois ***
    Michigan
     
    Illinois
    Juice Williams, QB 16 for 70
    Daniel Dufrene 8 for 106
    Rashard Mendenhall 26 for 88
     
    Washington
    Jake Locker, QB 14 for 102  NOTE: Locker threw 3 int's.
    Louis Rankin 14 for 42
     
    Note: For those of you that saw what Penn State did to A&M in their bowl game with the backup QB Clark. I think that game with OSU and PSU could have been closer if Penn State evoked that same strategy of using a running QB.  Here's the bad thing. The PSU game was before the Illinois game.
     
    Just something to ponder. I see QB draws in my nightmares, but still undecided.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Below are the teams that were on OSU's schedule this year. I have asterisked the teams that I feel have a running QB.
     
    Youngstown State
    Akron
    Washington ***
    Northwestern
    Minnesota
    Purdue
    Kent State
    Michigan State
    Penn State
    Wisconsin
    Illinois ***
    Michigan
     
    Illinois
    Juice Williams, QB 16 for 70
    Daniel Dufrene 8 for 106
    Rashard Mendenhall 26 for 88
     
    Washington
    Jake Locker, QB 14 for 102  NOTE: Locker threw 3 int's.
    Louis Rankin 14 for 42
     
    Note: For those of you that saw what Penn State did to A&M in their bowl game with the backup QB Clark. I think that game with OSU and PSU could have been closer if Penn State evoked that same strategy of using a running QB.  Here's the bad thing. The PSU game was before the Illinois game.
     
    Just something to ponder. I see QB draws in my nightmares, but still undecided.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:20 PM ET #154

    I am all over the first half under 24.  I think picking sides is a coin flip.  Both teams have had a nice rest and defense should prevail early while the offenses shake off the rust.  I think the best bet on the board is under 48 on game. 
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    I am all over the first half under 24.  I think picking sides is a coin flip.  Both teams have had a nice rest and defense should prevail early while the offenses shake off the rust.  I think the best bet on the board is under 48 on game. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:27 PM ET #155

    try as i might, i can't make myself give a rats ass about this game... neither team is the best team in CFB... i know that much... both might be top 5... but i don't care too much who wins... the only thought that runs through my mind every time i think about this game is... "playoffs!"...
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    try as i might, i can't make myself give a rats ass about this game... neither team is the best team in CFB... i know that much... both might be top 5... but i don't care too much who wins... the only thought that runs through my mind every time i think about this game is... "playoffs!"...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:31 PM ET #156

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonSteel:

    Still haven't decided yet. I had a good bowl season and would hate to give it back.
     
    One concern is the LSU dual QB's.  OSU had some trouble with the Juice from Illinois.  I could see LSU game planning to use Flynn and Ryan Perrilloux in certain situations. I think that might confuse the OSU defense.
     
     
    Although Les Miles is an idiot and basically had this team handed to him by no other then the GENIUS, Nick "Satan" Saban he does have good assistant coaches around him.

    One of the best in the business is Bo Pelini, Def. Coordinator.
     
     


    First of all, good luck on your picks tonight.  But regarding your highlighted point above -- Bo Pelini is leaving after this game to be head coach at Nebraska.  Sure he says he is focused... but is he?  How can he be, really?  Pasting in this comment here from David Fox, a writer at rivals.com:

    Don't forget about Mark Richt's departure (or lack thereof) before the 2001 Sugar Bowl. Then Florida State's offensive coordinator, Richt doubled as an assistant for the Seminoles and Georgia's head coach. The Seminoles couldn't find the end zone in that title game loss to Oklahoma. Bo Pelini is in a similar role, splitting his attention between his LSU defensive coordinator post and the Nebraska head coaching position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonSteel:

    Still haven't decided yet. I had a good bowl season and would hate to give it back.
     
    One concern is the LSU dual QB's.  OSU had some trouble with the Juice from Illinois.  I could see LSU game planning to use Flynn and Ryan Perrilloux in certain situations. I think that might confuse the OSU defense.
     
     
    Although Les Miles is an idiot and basically had this team handed to him by no other then the GENIUS, Nick "Satan" Saban he does have good assistant coaches around him.

    One of the best in the business is Bo Pelini, Def. Coordinator.
     
     


    First of all, good luck on your picks tonight.  But regarding your highlighted point above -- Bo Pelini is leaving after this game to be head coach at Nebraska.  Sure he says he is focused... but is he?  How can he be, really?  Pasting in this comment here from David Fox, a writer at rivals.com:

    Don't forget about Mark Richt's departure (or lack thereof) before the 2001 Sugar Bowl. Then Florida State's offensive coordinator, Richt doubled as an assistant for the Seminoles and Georgia's head coach. The Seminoles couldn't find the end zone in that title game loss to Oklahoma. Bo Pelini is in a similar role, splitting his attention between his LSU defensive coordinator post and the Nebraska head coaching position.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:31 PM ET #157

    just read something interesting....last years BCS..Florida only had a lay-off of 36 days compared Ohio St's 51 day lay off....we all saw how that game ended up.......this year LSU has had a layoff of 36 days compared to Ohio St.'s 49 day lay off.....2 extra weeks off for ohio st......this is similar to last years BCS....dont think this will have any correlation to this years game....but i just thought i would throw that out there as another stat to look at.....
     
    also seeing too much love for LSU on this board.....makes me want to take Ohio St and the points
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    just read something interesting....last years BCS..Florida only had a lay-off of 36 days compared Ohio St's 51 day lay off....we all saw how that game ended up.......this year LSU has had a layoff of 36 days compared to Ohio St.'s 49 day lay off.....2 extra weeks off for ohio st......this is similar to last years BCS....dont think this will have any correlation to this years game....but i just thought i would throw that out there as another stat to look at.....
     
    also seeing too much love for LSU on this board.....makes me want to take Ohio St and the points
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:37 PM ET #158

    we all know about the offense and defenses for these teams.....can anybody give some insight on the Special Teams for these teams????????????
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    we all know about the offense and defenses for these teams.....can anybody give some insight on the Special Teams for these teams????????????
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:39 PM ET #159

    COVERDITTY  I don't get your point since Illinois beat OSU and the got buried my SC, so what? They had 4 turnovers and barely got beat by a division team. I will take your thinking one step futher. Appalation State beat Michigan and then got beat by Murry State. So since Michigan Burried Florida and I was at that game. News flash Murray State is better than Florida!!!  My point is this has been a wierd year and I think that OSU will win the game. They are not going to get embarrased two years in a row and out of all the SEC teams they match up well against LSU. I hope everyone is ready for a good one tonight, it should be fun. GL all 
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    COVERDITTY  I don't get your point since Illinois beat OSU and the got buried my SC, so what? They had 4 turnovers and barely got beat by a division team. I will take your thinking one step futher. Appalation State beat Michigan and then got beat by Murry State. So since Michigan Burried Florida and I was at that game. News flash Murray State is better than Florida!!!  My point is this has been a wierd year and I think that OSU will win the game. They are not going to get embarrased two years in a row and out of all the SEC teams they match up well against LSU. I hope everyone is ready for a good one tonight, it should be fun. GL all 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:42 PM ET #160

    Oh I forgot BUCK by 7-10.
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    Oh I forgot BUCK by 7-10.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:48 PM ET #161

    BigDaddy,
     
    With the longer layoff for Ohio St, do you think that LSU will have the advantage in the 1st half of this one? 
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    BigDaddy,
     
    With the longer layoff for Ohio St, do you think that LSU will have the advantage in the 1st half of this one? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:50 PM ET #162

    well this bowl season has quickly eaten up a big chunk of my regular season winnings... and this being the last bowl game and needless to say the one that I am most hyped up about I am going very large tonight on LSU.

    Should be a close one.. I don't see any team defeating the other by more than 1 posession.

    LSU 20  Ohio State 13 

    Good luck everyone. 

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    well this bowl season has quickly eaten up a big chunk of my regular season winnings... and this being the last bowl game and needless to say the one that I am most hyped up about I am going very large tonight on LSU.

    Should be a close one.. I don't see any team defeating the other by more than 1 posession.

    LSU 20  Ohio State 13 

    Good luck everyone. 

     
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    What a crappy Sunday! I started Saturday with 4200 in my gaming account and finished the night out with 9266. At the close of business Sunday, I had 2611 in my account! Will I ever learn???
     
    Anyway...spilt milk. Here are some stats you may or may not have read from the Covers site:
     
    333 – LSU posted only a .333 payday winning percentage when favored by less than two touchdowns this year, going 2-4-1 against the spread (ATS) in such a role.

    The Tigers smoked Virginia Tech in Week 2 as an 11-point home favorite before dropping paydays in all three October games as an 8- to 10 ½-point favorite in each.

    Bettors who nabbed LSU -6 ½ when it visited Alabama barely squeaked out an ATS win before the Bayou Bengals finished their season with unconvincing performances against Arkansas and Tennessee.

    .667 – Ohio State has been a bettor’s best friend for years, posting a .667 payday winning percentage since 2004. Buckeyes backers have profited in each of the last four seasons as OSU went 32-16 ATS during that run.

    Ohio State was 7-4 ATS this season, a record that could have easily been 9-2 ATS if OSU hadn’t taken its foot off the gas against both Minnesota and Michigan State. (Guess who was on the Buckeyes on both games?)

    1 – Once. That’s how many times the Buckeyes had been underdogs over the last three seasons before Monday’s game.

    Ohio State was as a 3-point underdog at Texas in Week 2 of the 2006 campaign. Head coach Jim Tressel’s boys reiterated their No. 1 status with a 24-7 win and oddsmakers had favored them ever since … ‘til now.

    4 – Continuing with reasons why bettors love OSU, the Buckeyes have won (and covered the spread) in four of their last five bowl games.

    The school’s sole postseason setback during that run came in last year’s title game against Florida. Prior to that loss, however, Ohio State was on a 4-0 ATS run in bowl games that included a trio of straight-up (SU) wins as an underdog.

    7 – All seven of the Tigers’ final regular season games played over the total, leading to an overall 9-4 over-under (O/U) record for LSU. The trend came to a stop when Tennessee and the Tigers played a low-scoring affair in Atlanta for the conference crown.

    LSU’s boosted offensive production was highly publicized (the Tigers scored 40.4 points per contest during the seven-game over streak). The fact that the Tigers conceded 33.2 points per game to their six SEC opponents during that run was not. Even subtracting points scored by opponents in overtime, LSU let every SEC opponent down the stretch score at least 24 points in regulation time.

    16 – The Fighting Tigers have met 20 non-conference schools over the last five seasons and covered the spread against 16 of them. That’s an awesome ATS winning percentage of .800, slightly above LSU’s .750 ATS success rate against non-SEC foes this year.

    LSU beat Virginia Tech by 41 points in its most-watched non-conference game of 2007. The other three came against much smaller schools and the Tigers were favored by at least 35 points in each of those games.

    Their only failure to cover the spread in a non-conference game occurred in the Louisiana Superdome, where Monday’s title game takes place. LSU was a 40 ½-point favorite over Tulane in Week 5; the otherwise convincing 34-9 final score wasn’t enough to satisfy Bengals backers.

    57.6 – Speaking of bettors, 57.6 percent of Wagerline.com users liked LSU minus the points as of Wednesday afternoon. That percentage reflects the tastes of more than 3,800 bettors who wagered on spreads between 3 ½ and 5 points.

    That majority is slightly higher than the 56.5 percent of Wagerline.com users who preferred the over for Monday night’s title game.

    Maybe you don’t like to follow the pack, maybe you do. As for me, I’ll paraphrase Anchorman womanizer Brian Fantana in saying “I’ve studied Wagerline.com, you know – 50 percent of the time, it works every time.”

    91 – Ohio State led the nation in total defense, allowing opponents only 225.3 yards of total offense per game. Nowhere was the Buckeyes’ defensive dominance more visible than at the Big House for the season finale against Michigan. OSU allowed the Wolverines to compile only 91 total yards.

    Maybe Michigan’s offensive stars weren’t quite at full health. Maybe the ugly weather clamped down on the scoring. Make any excuse you want, I defy anyone to say that 91-yard total isn’t impressive.

    180.5 – Lest bettors think OSU is the only team capable of strong defensive performances, LSU topped the country in total defense against non-conference opponents. The Tigers allowed them only 180.5 yards per game.

    Holding Middle Tennessee State to 90 yards of total offense might draw yawns from some bettors. The fact that LSU limited Virginia Tech to 149 total yards and a sole touchdown is downright sassy.

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    What a crappy Sunday! I started Saturday with 4200 in my gaming account and finished the night out with 9266. At the close of business Sunday, I had 2611 in my account! Will I ever learn???
     
    Anyway...spilt milk. Here are some stats you may or may not have read from the Covers site:
     
    333 – LSU posted only a .333 payday winning percentage when favored by less than two touchdowns this year, going 2-4-1 against the spread (ATS) in such a role.

    The Tigers smoked Virginia Tech in Week 2 as an 11-point home favorite before dropping paydays in all three October games as an 8- to 10 ½-point favorite in each.

    Bettors who nabbed LSU -6 ½ when it visited Alabama barely squeaked out an ATS win before the Bayou Bengals finished their season with unconvincing performances against Arkansas and Tennessee.

    .667 – Ohio State has been a bettor’s best friend for years, posting a .667 payday winning percentage since 2004. Buckeyes backers have profited in each of the last four seasons as OSU went 32-16 ATS during that run.

    Ohio State was 7-4 ATS this season, a record that could have easily been 9-2 ATS if OSU hadn’t taken its foot off the gas against both Minnesota and Michigan State. (Guess who was on the Buckeyes on both games?)

    1 – Once. That’s how many times the Buckeyes had been underdogs over the last three seasons before Monday’s game.

    Ohio State was as a 3-point underdog at Texas in Week 2 of the 2006 campaign. Head coach Jim Tressel’s boys reiterated their No. 1 status with a 24-7 win and oddsmakers had favored them ever since … ‘til now.

    4 – Continuing with reasons why bettors love OSU, the Buckeyes have won (and covered the spread) in four of their last five bowl games.

    The school’s sole postseason setback during that run came in last year’s title game against Florida. Prior to that loss, however, Ohio State was on a 4-0 ATS run in bowl games that included a trio of straight-up (SU) wins as an underdog.

    7 – All seven of the Tigers’ final regular season games played over the total, leading to an overall 9-4 over-under (O/U) record for LSU. The trend came to a stop when Tennessee and the Tigers played a low-scoring affair in Atlanta for the conference crown.

    LSU’s boosted offensive production was highly publicized (the Tigers scored 40.4 points per contest during the seven-game over streak). The fact that the Tigers conceded 33.2 points per game to their six SEC opponents during that run was not. Even subtracting points scored by opponents in overtime, LSU let every SEC opponent down the stretch score at least 24 points in regulation time.

    16 – The Fighting Tigers have met 20 non-conference schools over the last five seasons and covered the spread against 16 of them. That’s an awesome ATS winning percentage of .800, slightly above LSU’s .750 ATS success rate against non-SEC foes this year.

    LSU beat Virginia Tech by 41 points in its most-watched non-conference game of 2007. The other three came against much smaller schools and the Tigers were favored by at least 35 points in each of those games.

    Their only failure to cover the spread in a non-conference game occurred in the Louisiana Superdome, where Monday’s title game takes place. LSU was a 40 ½-point favorite over Tulane in Week 5; the otherwise convincing 34-9 final score wasn’t enough to satisfy Bengals backers.

    57.6 – Speaking of bettors, 57.6 percent of Wagerline.com users liked LSU minus the points as of Wednesday afternoon. That percentage reflects the tastes of more than 3,800 bettors who wagered on spreads between 3 ½ and 5 points.

    That majority is slightly higher than the 56.5 percent of Wagerline.com users who preferred the over for Monday night’s title game.

    Maybe you don’t like to follow the pack, maybe you do. As for me, I’ll paraphrase Anchorman womanizer Brian Fantana in saying “I’ve studied Wagerline.com, you know – 50 percent of the time, it works every time.”

    91 – Ohio State led the nation in total defense, allowing opponents only 225.3 yards of total offense per game. Nowhere was the Buckeyes’ defensive dominance more visible than at the Big House for the season finale against Michigan. OSU allowed the Wolverines to compile only 91 total yards.

    Maybe Michigan’s offensive stars weren’t quite at full health. Maybe the ugly weather clamped down on the scoring. Make any excuse you want, I defy anyone to say that 91-yard total isn’t impressive.

    180.5 – Lest bettors think OSU is the only team capable of strong defensive performances, LSU topped the country in total defense against non-conference opponents. The Tigers allowed them only 180.5 yards per game.

    Holding Middle Tennessee State to 90 yards of total offense might draw yawns from some bettors. The fact that LSU limited Virginia Tech to 149 total yards and a sole touchdown is downright sassy.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:53 PM ET #164

    Not even going to bother writing up anything on this game because I hate college football...and within 5 years they need to move to a playoff system.  People are quickly getting bored with the BCS, and this will be the lowest rated championship game in a long long time
     
    LSU and OVER
     
    So if you know anything about my history in the bowl games...take Ohio State and the UNDER and you should be fine!!
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    Not even going to bother writing up anything on this game because I hate college football...and within 5 years they need to move to a playoff system.  People are quickly getting bored with the BCS, and this will be the lowest rated championship game in a long long time
     
    LSU and OVER
     
    So if you know anything about my history in the bowl games...take Ohio State and the UNDER and you should be fine!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:56 PM ET #165

    OHIO State by 8 
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 4:59 PM ET #166

    LSU "D" is rested and they should be dominate tonight.
     
    I like LSU and the under.
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    LSU "D" is rested and they should be dominate tonight.
     
    I like LSU and the under.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunted466:

    Here's an interesting thought.....have a point. It makes it so much more interesting for the reader.

    dude. p,t,& a is one of my all-time top 10 - love seeing the quote!

     

    However, on a less serious note, OSU cannot stop LSU, they just aren't used to playing the caliber of team that LSU has been beating.  I know it's been said over and over, but put them in the SEC and they don't make it to 11-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunted466:

    Here's an interesting thought.....have a point. It makes it so much more interesting for the reader.

    dude. p,t,& a is one of my all-time top 10 - love seeing the quote!

     

    However, on a less serious note, OSU cannot stop LSU, they just aren't used to playing the caliber of team that LSU has been beating.  I know it's been said over and over, but put them in the SEC and they don't make it to 11-1.

     
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    Well the last game of the college football season comes down to this game. Probably a match up between 2 teams that others beg to differ that should even be in here. Well it's whom the BCS choose to be here so this is what we get, but with that said the BCS could have not found a harder game to cap that is for sure.
     
    If you look at the level at talent LSU has played this season versus what Ohio St were up against...
     
    LSU QB's faced this season:             
     
    Tim Tebow of Florida
    Andre Woodson of Kentucky
     
    OSU - The best passer Ohio State faced this season: Brian Hoyer of Michigan State - ranked 28th in the country passer rating 138.9
     
    *If you want you can include juice Williams but he wasn't in the high rankings unless I missed it.
     
    Both LSU and Ohio St faced their number of top rushers this season so both teams can plead there own case in that department.
     
    The combined record of Ohio State’s opponents: 74-72
     
    The combined record of LSU’s opponents: 88-70.
     
    Ohio St played 2 top 25 teams - Illinois & Wisconsin
     
    LSU played - Virginia Tech, Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn.
     
    The key things that I looked at in this game that favor both teams...
     
    1) The last game Ohio St played was 2 weeks prior to LSU's last game played. IMO Ohio St might have some rust coming in to this game.
     
    2) Although the run defense of LSU looked like they can be easily run over in their last few games but that was with a less than 100% healthy Glen Dorsey who is now well rested for this game.
     
    3) Tressel is one of the best at making adjustments but I'm wondering if the adjustments will come in the second half of this game?
     
    4) Can LSU stop Beanie Wells? Did Les Miles find a way to contain him?
     
    I'm not sure on the final outcome of this game purely because when I did have a chance to catch some Ohio St games on tv those boys play 60 minutes of football.
     
    Also like the under at 47.5 in this one but I'm scared of all the OT games that LSU has been in to drive this game over the total.
     
    It's been a nice college football season with my old and newly found friends I'll see you guys next season on the college threads
     
    My final pick of the college football season.......
     
    LSU at the half -2.5
     
    Aloha and good luck to all
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    Well the last game of the college football season comes down to this game. Probably a match up between 2 teams that others beg to differ that should even be in here. Well it's whom the BCS choose to be here so this is what we get, but with that said the BCS could have not found a harder game to cap that is for sure.
     
    If you look at the level at talent LSU has played this season versus what Ohio St were up against...
     
    LSU QB's faced this season:             
     
    Tim Tebow of Florida
    Andre Woodson of Kentucky
     
    OSU - The best passer Ohio State faced this season: Brian Hoyer of Michigan State - ranked 28th in the country passer rating 138.9
     
    *If you want you can include juice Williams but he wasn't in the high rankings unless I missed it.
     
    Both LSU and Ohio St faced their number of top rushers this season so both teams can plead there own case in that department.
     
    The combined record of Ohio State’s opponents: 74-72
     
    The combined record of LSU’s opponents: 88-70.
     
    Ohio St played 2 top 25 teams - Illinois & Wisconsin
     
    LSU played - Virginia Tech, Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn.
     
    The key things that I looked at in this game that favor both teams...
     
    1) The last game Ohio St played was 2 weeks prior to LSU's last game played. IMO Ohio St might have some rust coming in to this game.
     
    2) Although the run defense of LSU looked like they can be easily run over in their last few games but that was with a less than 100% healthy Glen Dorsey who is now well rested for this game.
     
    3) Tressel is one of the best at making adjustments but I'm wondering if the adjustments will come in the second half of this game?
     
    4) Can LSU stop Beanie Wells? Did Les Miles find a way to contain him?
     
    I'm not sure on the final outcome of this game purely because when I did have a chance to catch some Ohio St games on tv those boys play 60 minutes of football.
     
    Also like the under at 47.5 in this one but I'm scared of all the OT games that LSU has been in to drive this game over the total.
     
    It's been a nice college football season with my old and newly found friends I'll see you guys next season on the college threads
     
    My final pick of the college football season.......
     
    LSU at the half -2.5
     
    Aloha and good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #169

    Quote Originally Posted by franchise84:

    BigDaddy,
     
    With the longer layoff for Ohio St, do you think that LSU will have the advantage in the 1st half of this one? 

     That's one of the main reasons why I took LSU in the first half.

    But before I did I had to look at Beanie Wells of Ohio St to see if LSU can match up with his running game. IMO Dorsey will be double teamed as usual so that should open up the other LSU defenders to stop the running game.

    IMO Long layoffs normally puts a lot of rust on a QB's arm.

    Good luck my friend

     

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    BigDaddy,
     
    With the longer layoff for Ohio St, do you think that LSU will have the advantage in the 1st half of this one? 

     That's one of the main reasons why I took LSU in the first half.

    But before I did I had to look at Beanie Wells of Ohio St to see if LSU can match up with his running game. IMO Dorsey will be double teamed as usual so that should open up the other LSU defenders to stop the running game.

    IMO Long layoffs normally puts a lot of rust on a QB's arm.

    Good luck my friend

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 5:14 PM ET #170

    Quote Originally Posted by teabag69:

    Hunted back to the game - are "your" Buckeyes gonna show up this year?  Thed better because I plan on takinbg them.  I enjoyed the hell out of watching all these clowns with their buckeye necklaces singing songs, giving me sh-t after that opening kickoff for a TD, proceed to get their as-es handed to them on national TV and put a few g's in my wallett.  But this year I am taking the Buckeyes for the reasoins stated above. 

     

    Teabag- All I can tell you is that Tressel isn't going to let that happen. I can't tell you who's going to win. Nobody in here can. I DO know that last year Smith came into this game with 15 extra pounds on and I think it was all in his ego. He and the rest of the team had been crowned since day 1 and they let it get to their heads. Florida killed them.

    Contrast that to this "un-deserving" year. The team is much more well rounded with emphasis on the upper classmen on the D. They have been told by everyone that they don't deserve to be there. I've heard it all year. Every week the common term was "this will be their biggest test". They did what EVERY team in the country did and lost to a team that they shouldn't have. Oh well, that was the year that was 2007. 

    Tressel made the whole team come back from their "break" 5 lbs lighter than when they left. He's not going to let this be a "no-show" again. Expect 100% effort from MY Buckeyes.(Alumni) Boekman is my only concern. Turnovers will be key on both sides.

    Keep in mind-The Buckeyes normally do extremely well in the underdog role.

    We'll all know in 6-7 hours.

     

         GO BUCKEYES!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teabag69:

    Hunted back to the game - are "your" Buckeyes gonna show up this year?  Thed better because I plan on takinbg them.  I enjoyed the hell out of watching all these clowns with their buckeye necklaces singing songs, giving me sh-t after that opening kickoff for a TD, proceed to get their as-es handed to them on national TV and put a few g's in my wallett.  But this year I am taking the Buckeyes for the reasoins stated above. 

     

    Teabag- All I can tell you is that Tressel isn't going to let that happen. I can't tell you who's going to win. Nobody in here can. I DO know that last year Smith came into this game with 15 extra pounds on and I think it was all in his ego. He and the rest of the team had been crowned since day 1 and they let it get to their heads. Florida killed them.

    Contrast that to this "un-deserving" year. The team is much more well rounded with emphasis on the upper classmen on the D. They have been told by everyone that they don't deserve to be there. I've heard it all year. Every week the common term was "this will be their biggest test". They did what EVERY team in the country did and lost to a team that they shouldn't have. Oh well, that was the year that was 2007. 

    Tressel made the whole team come back from their "break" 5 lbs lighter than when they left. He's not going to let this be a "no-show" again. Expect 100% effort from MY Buckeyes.(Alumni) Boekman is my only concern. Turnovers will be key on both sides.

    Keep in mind-The Buckeyes normally do extremely well in the underdog role.

    We'll all know in 6-7 hours.

     

         GO BUCKEYES!!!!

     
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    Bodog has the half line at LSU -1.5 if anyone else if following BigD.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by zenbutcher13]

    dude. p,t,& a is one of my all-time top 10 - love seeing the quote!

     

     

    I'm glad somebody caught that. Nice!

    Those aren't pillows!

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    dude. p,t,& a is one of my all-time top 10 - love seeing the quote!

     

     

    I'm glad somebody caught that. Nice!

    Those aren't pillows!

     
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    LSU -3.5

    GL LSU Backers

    It's been a fun NCAAF season all
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    GL LSU Backers

    It's been a fun NCAAF season all
     
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    LSU first half (3 units)
    Under first half (3 units)
    Ohio State game (2 units)
    Under game (2 units)
     
    Last game of the season, going big, its been a succesful season so i can spare a few. It's been a great year and can't wait to see you guys back here again next year!!!!
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    Ohio State game (2 units)
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    Last game of the season, going big, its been a succesful season so i can spare a few. It's been a great year and can't wait to see you guys back here again next year!!!!
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