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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 12:37 PM ET #251

    Thaks for your input BP, good luck!
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    Thaks for your input BP, good luck!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 12:38 PM ET #252

    Excellent stuff guys!  Now who is really betting large on this game?
     
     
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    Excellent stuff guys!  Now who is really betting large on this game?
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 12:38 PM ET #253

    Not me!  
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 1:28 PM ET #254

    GENTS  Has anyone even considered that both Indy and NO both enjoy a scheduling advantage. It's slight for the Saints, but strong for Colts. Not only does Indy have the extra day,but Pat's were x- country,returned home,then travel again to Indy. Doesn't anyone feel that's significent,or possibly someone else brought it up and I may have missed it?
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    GENTS  Has anyone even considered that both Indy and NO both enjoy a scheduling advantage. It's slight for the Saints, but strong for Colts. Not only does Indy have the extra day,but Pat's were x- country,returned home,then travel again to Indy. Doesn't anyone feel that's significent,or possibly someone else brought it up and I may have missed it?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 1:42 PM ET #255

    Quote Originally Posted by damont:

    GENTS  Has anyone even considered that both Indy and NO both enjoy a scheduling advantage. It's slight for the Saints, but strong for Colts. Not only does Indy have the extra day,but Pat's were x- country,returned home,then travel again to Indy. Doesn't anyone feel that's significent,or possibly someone else brought it up and I may have missed it?
     
    Good point in that Indy has scheduling advantage, but I think that's well understood already.
     
    I think most people would overlook the Pats travelling around a lot because they are an excellent road team and are probably used to it.
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    GENTS  Has anyone even considered that both Indy and NO both enjoy a scheduling advantage. It's slight for the Saints, but strong for Colts. Not only does Indy have the extra day,but Pat's were x- country,returned home,then travel again to Indy. Doesn't anyone feel that's significent,or possibly someone else brought it up and I may have missed it?
     
    Good point in that Indy has scheduling advantage, but I think that's well understood already.
     
    I think most people would overlook the Pats travelling around a lot because they are an excellent road team and are probably used to it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 1:50 PM ET #256

    Damont,
     
    It's a fair point to bring up but Pittsburgh beat that theory last season.
     
    to Indy to Pitt to Cincy to Pitt to Denver
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    Damont,
     
    It's a fair point to bring up but Pittsburgh beat that theory last season.
     
    to Indy to Pitt to Cincy to Pitt to Denver
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 1:59 PM ET #257

    not that I post much at all but the one thing that has always concerned me about Peyton Manning is his inability to win the big game.  He has always seemed to be able to get it done at mid-level but not in the big games.  Wasn't it Steve Spurrier that made reference that Tennessee would always be second best.  Yes Peyton is a great QB but what big big game has he ever won going back to college.  You never know this may be it.
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    not that I post much at all but the one thing that has always concerned me about Peyton Manning is his inability to win the big game.  He has always seemed to be able to get it done at mid-level but not in the big games.  Wasn't it Steve Spurrier that made reference that Tennessee would always be second best.  Yes Peyton is a great QB but what big big game has he ever won going back to college.  You never know this may be it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 2:13 PM ET #258

    Excellent stuff guys!  Now who is really betting large on this game?}}}}}
     
     
    I'm up to my limit  laying 160 ML {ouch} and laying  115 and 120  giving the 3   If I had another resource I'd be going for more
     
    Also like NO especially if Horn plays They're 7-3 when he does
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    Excellent stuff guys!  Now who is really betting large on this game?}}}}}
     
     
    I'm up to my limit  laying 160 ML {ouch} and laying  115 and 120  giving the 3   If I had another resource I'd be going for more
     
    Also like NO especially if Horn plays They're 7-3 when he does
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    Excellent stuff guys!  Now who is really betting large on this game?}}}}}
     
     
    I'm up to my limit  laying 160 ML {ouch} and laying  115 and 120  giving the 3   If I had another resource I'd be going for more
     
    Also like NO especially if Horn plays They're 7-3 when he does
    All of my college bowl & playoff profits are going in on Indy here. No ml plays, I'll give the points.
    I work through a local & don't really care what the final number is, I see a 13-17 point Colts win.
    I'm on the Colts at 7-1 to win the SB, and will make my big play here since I won't need to play the Colts in the SB, I may actually lay some off if they hang a bad number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

    Excellent stuff guys!  Now who is really betting large on this game?}}}}}
     
     
    I'm up to my limit  laying 160 ML {ouch} and laying  115 and 120  giving the 3   If I had another resource I'd be going for more
     
    Also like NO especially if Horn plays They're 7-3 when he does
    All of my college bowl & playoff profits are going in on Indy here. No ml plays, I'll give the points.
    I work through a local & don't really care what the final number is, I see a 13-17 point Colts win.
    I'm on the Colts at 7-1 to win the SB, and will make my big play here since I won't need to play the Colts in the SB, I may actually lay some off if they hang a bad number.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 3:23 PM ET #260

    hey Mr.b its friday do you still feel as strong about the colts as you did on that eagles play?Another note how do you feel about the hornets+15?
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    hey Mr.b its friday do you still feel as strong about the colts as you did on that eagles play?Another note how do you feel about the hornets+15?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 4:21 PM ET #261

    S is for still Tony Dungy has not won a thing}}
     
     
     
    Don't quit your day job  lol
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    S is for still Tony Dungy has not won a thing}}
     
     
     
    Don't quit your day job  lol
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2007 - 5:06 PM ET #262

    it would be hard for me to go any larger on the Colts.......unless of course Da Aints bring it home!  Good point on the travel.  Cross country after late Sunday game back on the road....then to a hostile RCA Dome.  Game comes down to Manning vs Harrisonless secondary w/ the best O line in NFL neutralizing any kind of significant pass rush which Pats rely heavily on allowing their weak secondary to look average at best.  ....Pats will will be back for years to come.  They have been a successful organization in a league that screams competitive balance and have a great situation w/ their entire OLine and most of the  D line being signed for the next few years.  They will have some success over Indy in years to come.....just not this year
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    it would be hard for me to go any larger on the Colts.......unless of course Da Aints bring it home!  Good point on the travel.  Cross country after late Sunday game back on the road....then to a hostile RCA Dome.  Game comes down to Manning vs Harrisonless secondary w/ the best O line in NFL neutralizing any kind of significant pass rush which Pats rely heavily on allowing their weak secondary to look average at best.  ....Pats will will be back for years to come.  They have been a successful organization in a league that screams competitive balance and have a great situation w/ their entire OLine and most of the  D line being signed for the next few years.  They will have some success over Indy in years to come.....just not this year
     
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    (From another thread) MrB, I'm using DSI (Diamond Sports International) as my online book. That is where the +170 NE ML was issued. I had just opened an acct. with Pinny a week before they closed their doos to US. I have no friends in foreign countries Any suggestions?
     
     
     
    Man, that is some bad luck.  I recommend BetCascade.com, where instead of a 10% cash signup bonus, you can opt for their -105 juice.  You'll save money that way BUT....if you're primarily an underdog player, this book isn't the place to shop.  How about this?  Open two accounts, one at Cascade and one at Bodog.  Bet your favorites at Cascade, and your underdogs at Bodog.
     
    Thank you MrB. It is very kind of you to assist. 
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    (From another thread) MrB, I'm using DSI (Diamond Sports International) as my online book. That is where the +170 NE ML was issued. I had just opened an acct. with Pinny a week before they closed their doos to US. I have no friends in foreign countries Any suggestions?
     
     
     
    Man, that is some bad luck.  I recommend BetCascade.com, where instead of a 10% cash signup bonus, you can opt for their -105 juice.  You'll save money that way BUT....if you're primarily an underdog player, this book isn't the place to shop.  How about this?  Open two accounts, one at Cascade and one at Bodog.  Bet your favorites at Cascade, and your underdogs at Bodog.
     
    Thank you MrB. It is very kind of you to assist. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    (From another thread) MrB, I'm using DSI (Diamond Sports International) as my online book. That is where the +170 NE ML was issued. I had just opened an acct. with Pinny a week before they closed their doos to US. I have no friends in foreign countries Any suggestions?
     
     
     
    Man, that is some bad luck.  I recommend BetCascade.com, where instead of a 10% cash signup bonus, you can opt for their -105 juice.  You'll save money that way BUT....if you're primarily an underdog player, this book isn't the place to shop.  How about this?  Open two accounts, one at Cascade and one at Bodog.  Bet your favorites at Cascade, and your underdogs at Bodog.
     
    Thank you MrB. It is very kind of you to assist. 
    Clarification: (From another thread) as it pertained to the Patriots vs Chargers game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    (From another thread) MrB, I'm using DSI (Diamond Sports International) as my online book. That is where the +170 NE ML was issued. I had just opened an acct. with Pinny a week before they closed their doos to US. I have no friends in foreign countries Any suggestions?
     
     
     
    Man, that is some bad luck.  I recommend BetCascade.com, where instead of a 10% cash signup bonus, you can opt for their -105 juice.  You'll save money that way BUT....if you're primarily an underdog player, this book isn't the place to shop.  How about this?  Open two accounts, one at Cascade and one at Bodog.  Bet your favorites at Cascade, and your underdogs at Bodog.
     
    Thank you MrB. It is very kind of you to assist. 
    Clarification: (From another thread) as it pertained to the Patriots vs Chargers game.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 2:20 AM ET #265

    Quote Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:

     
    Mr. B,
     
    I admit I am not much of a shopper, I do not have the patience.
     
    I find a book I like and I stick with them and their (sometimes) lame lines.
     
    Not sound financial planning, I agree but there are reasons you are betting
    100K and I am betting 10K.
     
    This is just one of them.
     
    how much patience do you need to spend 20 seconds before you put a wager in to find the best line.  those extra half points add up to a few extra wins and pushes per year.  will probably increase your win percentage by 1% at least.  for me personally, i hate it when i know that i did not have the best number that's out there. 
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    Mr. B,
     
    I admit I am not much of a shopper, I do not have the patience.
     
    I find a book I like and I stick with them and their (sometimes) lame lines.
     
    Not sound financial planning, I agree but there are reasons you are betting
    100K and I am betting 10K.
     
    This is just one of them.
     
    how much patience do you need to spend 20 seconds before you put a wager in to find the best line.  those extra half points add up to a few extra wins and pushes per year.  will probably increase your win percentage by 1% at least.  for me personally, i hate it when i know that i did not have the best number that's out there. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutebrute:

     
    how much patience do you need to spend 20 seconds before you put a wager in to find the best line.  those extra half points add up to a few extra wins and pushes per year.  will probably increase your win percentage by 1% at least.  for me personally, i hate it when i know that i did not have the best number that's out there. 
     
    Its kinda funny that someone who makes a living off of sports betting wouldnt huh ??? Its like someone being a real estate agent but not having a cell phone. Logic tells you who tom is and who he isnt. anyone who makes a living off something especially gambling would be very aggressively looking for the best value available on every bet they made.  maybe he's so good that he wins 80% of his bets and doesnt need to shop around. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutebrute:

     
    how much patience do you need to spend 20 seconds before you put a wager in to find the best line.  those extra half points add up to a few extra wins and pushes per year.  will probably increase your win percentage by 1% at least.  for me personally, i hate it when i know that i did not have the best number that's out there. 
     
    Its kinda funny that someone who makes a living off of sports betting wouldnt huh ??? Its like someone being a real estate agent but not having a cell phone. Logic tells you who tom is and who he isnt. anyone who makes a living off something especially gambling would be very aggressively looking for the best value available on every bet they made.  maybe he's so good that he wins 80% of his bets and doesnt need to shop around. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by papageorgio:

     
    Its kinda funny that someone who makes a living off of sports betting wouldnt huh ??? Its like someone being a real estate agent but not having a cell phone. Logic tells you who tom is and who he isnt. anyone who makes a living off something especially gambling would be very aggressively looking for the best value available on every bet they made.  maybe he's so good that he wins 80% of his bets and doesnt need to shop around. 
     
    seriously.  i'm no pro but even me, i got 8 to 12 books funded at all times.  and i'll check for that extra edge anywhere i can find it.
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    Its kinda funny that someone who makes a living off of sports betting wouldnt huh ??? Its like someone being a real estate agent but not having a cell phone. Logic tells you who tom is and who he isnt. anyone who makes a living off something especially gambling would be very aggressively looking for the best value available on every bet they made.  maybe he's so good that he wins 80% of his bets and doesnt need to shop around. 
     
    seriously.  i'm no pro but even me, i got 8 to 12 books funded at all times.  and i'll check for that extra edge anywhere i can find it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 2:55 AM ET #268

    Finally, someone else who is not shocked that San Diego was not in this game.  I completely agree Mr Bator, and love the Colts this week.  The Colts at home is completely different than the Colts in Foxboro.  The stadium will be rockin' and Addai is gonna run wild.  Watch it happen, all the focus is on Peyton, but Joseph Addai is primed to have a big game and the Pats can't key on him because of Peyton, Harrison, Wayne, and Clark (who has become the go-to and their ability to pass effectively.   The Colts will win with defense and running the football.  No way Belichick doesn't drop eight, or nine guys again and let Manning dink and dunk.  Addai will take up the slack and ther eis nothing New England can do.  Can't blitz Manning, he will pick you apart, so you play the the run in key situations but for the most part you try to prevent the big play, same as with the Chargers, except the quarterback this week is Manning, not Rivers.  Addai will rip off the yards and New England is resilient, they will make a push late, but Indy will impose its will with defense and Addai.  I see 27-16 Colts...
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    Finally, someone else who is not shocked that San Diego was not in this game.  I completely agree Mr Bator, and love the Colts this week.  The Colts at home is completely different than the Colts in Foxboro.  The stadium will be rockin' and Addai is gonna run wild.  Watch it happen, all the focus is on Peyton, but Joseph Addai is primed to have a big game and the Pats can't key on him because of Peyton, Harrison, Wayne, and Clark (who has become the go-to and their ability to pass effectively.   The Colts will win with defense and running the football.  No way Belichick doesn't drop eight, or nine guys again and let Manning dink and dunk.  Addai will take up the slack and ther eis nothing New England can do.  Can't blitz Manning, he will pick you apart, so you play the the run in key situations but for the most part you try to prevent the big play, same as with the Chargers, except the quarterback this week is Manning, not Rivers.  Addai will rip off the yards and New England is resilient, they will make a push late, but Indy will impose its will with defense and Addai.  I see 27-16 Colts...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 7:12 AM ET #269

    Whatever happened to nothing lasts forever?  I don't understand how some think the Pats will never start losing playoff games.  I'm not a Manning fan, but it's ridiculous to think he won't seize this opportunity--if the Red Sox can win then the Pats can sure as hell crumble this weekend--they are scrappy, but that won't get it done this week IMO.
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    Whatever happened to nothing lasts forever?  I don't understand how some think the Pats will never start losing playoff games.  I'm not a Manning fan, but it's ridiculous to think he won't seize this opportunity--if the Red Sox can win then the Pats can sure as hell crumble this weekend--they are scrappy, but that won't get it done this week IMO.
     
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    "Its kinda funny that someone who makes a living off of sports betting wouldnt huh ??? Its like someone being a real estate agent but not having a cell phone. Logic tells you who tom is and who he isnt. anyone who makes a living off something especially gambling would be very aggressively looking for the best value available on every bet they made.  maybe he's so good that he wins 80% of his bets and doesnt need to shop around."  (Papa)

     
    "seriously.  i'm no pro but even me, i got 8 to 12 books funded at all times.  and i'll check for that extra edge anywhere i can find it".(cutebrute)
     
    Guys,
    I do not hit anywhere NEAR 80% and never said I did. I am just an older
    bettor who is set in his ways. I have already noted that not
    shopping for the best lines is not the smartest way to bet but I "yams what I yams"
    for good or bad Do not take it personally that everyone is not as smart as you are  
     
    I do buy half points on occasion if that makes you feel any better.
     
     
     
    "Whatever happened to nothing lasts forever?  I don't understand how some think the Pats will never start losing playoff games.  I'm not a Manning fan, but it's ridiculous to think he won't seize this opportunity--if the Red Sox can win then the Pats can sure as hell crumble this weekend--they are scrappy, but that won't get it done this week IMO". (sourdeisel)
     
    I would rather ride a streak until it loses than keep betting against it until it does lose.
     
    All those years the you made money betting the Yanks when they beat the Red Sox was not
    givien back when the Red Sox finally won once.
     
    Betting on Tom Brady in the Playoffs has made you money twelve out of
    the thirteen times you did.  Even if they lose Sunday you will have won twelve
    times and lost twice.
     
    I do not need to shop for lines winning 12 out of fourteen times.
     
    GL on your Indy play.

     
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    "Its kinda funny that someone who makes a living off of sports betting wouldnt huh ??? Its like someone being a real estate agent but not having a cell phone. Logic tells you who tom is and who he isnt. anyone who makes a living off something especially gambling would be very aggressively looking for the best value available on every bet they made.  maybe he's so good that he wins 80% of his bets and doesnt need to shop around."  (Papa)

     
    "seriously.  i'm no pro but even me, i got 8 to 12 books funded at all times.  and i'll check for that extra edge anywhere i can find it".(cutebrute)
     
    Guys,
    I do not hit anywhere NEAR 80% and never said I did. I am just an older
    bettor who is set in his ways. I have already noted that not
    shopping for the best lines is not the smartest way to bet but I "yams what I yams"
    for good or bad Do not take it personally that everyone is not as smart as you are  
     
    I do buy half points on occasion if that makes you feel any better.
     
     
     
    "Whatever happened to nothing lasts forever?  I don't understand how some think the Pats will never start losing playoff games.  I'm not a Manning fan, but it's ridiculous to think he won't seize this opportunity--if the Red Sox can win then the Pats can sure as hell crumble this weekend--they are scrappy, but that won't get it done this week IMO". (sourdeisel)
     
    I would rather ride a streak until it loses than keep betting against it until it does lose.
     
    All those years the you made money betting the Yanks when they beat the Red Sox was not
    givien back when the Red Sox finally won once.
     
    Betting on Tom Brady in the Playoffs has made you money twelve out of
    the thirteen times you did.  Even if they lose Sunday you will have won twelve
    times and lost twice.
     
    I do not need to shop for lines winning 12 out of fourteen times.
     
    GL on your Indy play.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 11:27 AM ET #271

    Tom
     
    I will be in Indy smoking a cigar after Manning directs the best QB rating in AFC Championship history.
     
    Colts 34-17
     
    Revenge is a dish served best cold.
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    Tom
     
    I will be in Indy smoking a cigar after Manning directs the best QB rating in AFC Championship history.
     
    Colts 34-17
     
    Revenge is a dish served best cold.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 12:33 PM ET #272

    Revenge is a dish served best cold.}}
     
    Isnt it an indoor game??
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    Revenge is a dish served best cold.}}
     
    Isnt it an indoor game??
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 2:24 PM ET #273

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Tom
     
    I will be in Indy smoking a cigar after Manning directs the best QB rating in AFC Championship history.
     
    Colts 34-17
     
    Revenge is a dish served best cold.
     
    Smoking is not permitted in the RCA Dome.
     
    You might want to think about smoking something a little stronger
    to calm your nerves after watching what happens to your Indy bet 
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    Tom
     
    I will be in Indy smoking a cigar after Manning directs the best QB rating in AFC Championship history.
     
    Colts 34-17
     
    Revenge is a dish served best cold.
     
    Smoking is not permitted in the RCA Dome.
     
    You might want to think about smoking something a little stronger
    to calm your nerves after watching what happens to your Indy bet 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 2:33 PM ET #274

    Mr. I,
     
    does the following ring a bell?
     
    Baltimore -4
     
    This will not be a close game.  This will be an outright thumping.  I moved to Indy 4 months ago and have followed them this year.  Therefore, no bias here.  It is funny to listen to the locals.  Last week, they all thought KC would run all over Indy and win the game.  Now they think the Colts can win the Super Bowl.  Nobody gives Baltimore any credit.  Indy does not play well against two types of teams
     
    Teams with good defenses
    Teams that are physical
     
    They are going to get pounced today  
     
    Just having some fun      
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    Mr. I,
     
    does the following ring a bell?
     
    Baltimore -4
     
    This will not be a close game.  This will be an outright thumping.  I moved to Indy 4 months ago and have followed them this year.  Therefore, no bias here.  It is funny to listen to the locals.  Last week, they all thought KC would run all over Indy and win the game.  Now they think the Colts can win the Super Bowl.  Nobody gives Baltimore any credit.  Indy does not play well against two types of teams
     
    Teams with good defenses
    Teams that are physical
     
    They are going to get pounced today  
     
    Just having some fun      
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2007 - 2:50 PM ET #275

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    What's up in the Big-D? I've been in the big apple the last 2 weeks, have one more to go. Went 5-5 last weekend, the 4 dogs straight up and a 4 teamer, thought I died and gone to heaven. Taking Indy -3 and NO +2.5 this weekend, and placed an Indy to win the SB, per Mr. Bator.........good thinking. Tell the gang at Primos "hello", be back next weekend, that dreaded off week. I hate that weekend!
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    Texassportswire:
     
    What's up in the Big-D? I've been in the big apple the last 2 weeks, have one more to go. Went 5-5 last weekend, the 4 dogs straight up and a 4 teamer, thought I died and gone to heaven. Taking Indy -3 and NO +2.5 this weekend, and placed an Indy to win the SB, per Mr. Bator.........good thinking. Tell the gang at Primos "hello", be back next weekend, that dreaded off week. I hate that weekend!
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