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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2015 - 11:50 PM ET #2101

    College, I thought we had it up 7 with 6 left but then Baylor turned into the 2005 Suns. No sweat and we will kick butt tomorrow. Way to stay away and show you are earning your title of Pro!!!! That shows it was still a good night because you are learning.
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    College, I thought we had it up 7 with 6 left but then Baylor turned into the 2005 Suns. No sweat and we will kick butt tomorrow. Way to stay away and show you are earning your title of Pro!!!! That shows it was still a good night because you are learning.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 12:04 AM ET #2102

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    yea scal agreed.

    the thing that seperates people I think betting is just what you noted... can you as a bettor not think of it on a day to day basis and take ur lumps for a night? 

    that's where I feel I am evolving as a bettor because you can say to urself "well I kind of like this in the second half, or that and it's a 50/50 bet why not?"  

    but like u mentioned had I won the thought wouldn't even have came into my mind, but like u said I am proud I stayed away because it would def be a "forced job" as I call it meaning a forced play..

    If you are a 'traditional capper', that is, spending hours on one or two games and studying the full game line, and that appears what you are based on your comments, then second halves shouldn't even be a consideration, especially at these amounts.

    In very rare circumstances I play them if the Knicks are involved but I have all but completely eliminated from my betting for every other team and I am thankful I did.

    Of course Van and Rangerz will disagree and think a play is a play if it offers 'value', I just find second halves offer too much false value. I also find the lines are very sharp and seem to be within 1 or 2 points of the second half line (too close for comfort). 

    There's another disadvantage. You can't shop for lines. I mean, you could hit it up the second it is posted but even then the line could jump in seconds.

    Anyhow, I don't even see how you'd get the second half bet in if you were watching the Baylor game at home unless there is some Podunk casino that could be hit up 5 minutes away before the Strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    yea scal agreed.

    the thing that seperates people I think betting is just what you noted... can you as a bettor not think of it on a day to day basis and take ur lumps for a night? 

    that's where I feel I am evolving as a bettor because you can say to urself "well I kind of like this in the second half, or that and it's a 50/50 bet why not?"  

    but like u mentioned had I won the thought wouldn't even have came into my mind, but like u said I am proud I stayed away because it would def be a "forced job" as I call it meaning a forced play..

    If you are a 'traditional capper', that is, spending hours on one or two games and studying the full game line, and that appears what you are based on your comments, then second halves shouldn't even be a consideration, especially at these amounts.

    In very rare circumstances I play them if the Knicks are involved but I have all but completely eliminated from my betting for every other team and I am thankful I did.

    Of course Van and Rangerz will disagree and think a play is a play if it offers 'value', I just find second halves offer too much false value. I also find the lines are very sharp and seem to be within 1 or 2 points of the second half line (too close for comfort). 

    There's another disadvantage. You can't shop for lines. I mean, you could hit it up the second it is posted but even then the line could jump in seconds.

    Anyhow, I don't even see how you'd get the second half bet in if you were watching the Baylor game at home unless there is some Podunk casino that could be hit up 5 minutes away before the Strip.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 12:25 AM ET #2103

    College. 

    Don't ever forget the 3 6 13 theory. Google it if you don't know what it is 
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    Don't ever forget the 3 6 13 theory. Google it if you don't know what it is 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdog25:

    College. 

    Don't ever forget the 3 6 13 theory. Google it if you don't know what it is 

    Anyone who believes this nonsense must also believe in the easter bunny. Hope I didn't burst your bubble on that one. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdog25:

    College. 

    Don't ever forget the 3 6 13 theory. Google it if you don't know what it is 

    Anyone who believes this nonsense must also believe in the easter bunny. Hope I didn't burst your bubble on that one. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    If you are a 'traditional capper', that is, spending hours on one or two games and studying the full game line, and that appears what you are based on your comments, then second halves shouldn't even be a consideration, especially at these amounts.

    In very rare circumstances I play them if the Knicks are involved but I have all but completely eliminated from my betting for every other team and I am thankful I did.

    Of course Van and Rangerz will disagree and think a play is a play if it offers 'value', I just find second halves offer too much false value. I also find the lines are very sharp and seem to be within 1 or 2 points of the second half line (too close for comfort). 

    There's another disadvantage. You can't shop for lines. I mean, you could hit it up the second it is posted but even then the line could jump in seconds.

    Anyhow, I don't even see how you'd get the second half bet in if you were watching the Baylor game at home unless there is some Podunk casino that could be hit up 5 minutes away before the Strip.


    What I do vs what CG does is two completely different things. If I find an ingame line that I can exploit (whether it be buying/selling or middling) then I will take it whether I have 0 bets on the night or 20 bets on the night)

    I don't spend hours capping games. I don't spend a second capping games. I can't even remember the last time I made a pregame wager. So it's a completely different ball game. But I still think the same general theory should apply. Of COURSE, it's easy to force a play on a bad night. I'm sure as hell not going to argue that. But I firmly believe discipline doesn't just mean not forcing plays. 

    Discipline means you are going to make the exact same play whether you are 5-0 on the night or 0-5. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    If you are a 'traditional capper', that is, spending hours on one or two games and studying the full game line, and that appears what you are based on your comments, then second halves shouldn't even be a consideration, especially at these amounts.

    In very rare circumstances I play them if the Knicks are involved but I have all but completely eliminated from my betting for every other team and I am thankful I did.

    Of course Van and Rangerz will disagree and think a play is a play if it offers 'value', I just find second halves offer too much false value. I also find the lines are very sharp and seem to be within 1 or 2 points of the second half line (too close for comfort). 

    There's another disadvantage. You can't shop for lines. I mean, you could hit it up the second it is posted but even then the line could jump in seconds.

    Anyhow, I don't even see how you'd get the second half bet in if you were watching the Baylor game at home unless there is some Podunk casino that could be hit up 5 minutes away before the Strip.


    What I do vs what CG does is two completely different things. If I find an ingame line that I can exploit (whether it be buying/selling or middling) then I will take it whether I have 0 bets on the night or 20 bets on the night)

    I don't spend hours capping games. I don't spend a second capping games. I can't even remember the last time I made a pregame wager. So it's a completely different ball game. But I still think the same general theory should apply. Of COURSE, it's easy to force a play on a bad night. I'm sure as hell not going to argue that. But I firmly believe discipline doesn't just mean not forcing plays. 

    Discipline means you are going to make the exact same play whether you are 5-0 on the night or 0-5. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 1:22 AM ET #2106

    Tough loss. College Of course SCAL comes out Now your handshaking him because he didn't insult you Next you will be Handshaking Brady is Great . SCAL did bring up my. ? too. You said you don't do half times Which is Ok But you say your home instead of book , since you got Direct Tv .How can you get to the book if your 15 minutes away Thanks for letting me stay in your thread .Im glad you don't have to listen to all the knobs out there. I agree your picks. I never want you to do mine .Om ok I'm nba. Bad in college. If you like my pick I said throw. $50 on it for Steak dinner. Get them Thursday . Good news your still up big time . Hottest capper on here , better than a lot touts .If you or any other Covers bettors , want see good site It's called Sports Advisors I look at cappers. & decide what makes sense . I never pay , Iook free picks .I paid once Tout called Joey Demarco in New Jersey you might heard himLong story some other time .Out
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    Tough loss. College Of course SCAL comes out Now your handshaking him because he didn't insult you Next you will be Handshaking Brady is Great . SCAL did bring up my. ? too. You said you don't do half times Which is Ok But you say your home instead of book , since you got Direct Tv .How can you get to the book if your 15 minutes away Thanks for letting me stay in your thread .Im glad you don't have to listen to all the knobs out there. I agree your picks. I never want you to do mine .Om ok I'm nba. Bad in college. If you like my pick I said throw. $50 on it for Steak dinner. Get them Thursday . Good news your still up big time . Hottest capper on here , better than a lot touts .If you or any other Covers bettors , want see good site It's called Sports Advisors I look at cappers. & decide what makes sense . I never pay , Iook free picks .I paid once Tout called Joey Demarco in New Jersey you might heard himLong story some other time .Out
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 1:24 AM ET #2107

    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    Anyone who believes this nonsense must also believe in the easter bunny. Hope I didn't burst your bubble on that one. 

    You are the biggest idiot on this site...How do you call yourself a capper if you don't know this? YOU'RE AN IDIOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    Anyone who believes this nonsense must also believe in the easter bunny. Hope I didn't burst your bubble on that one. 

    You are the biggest idiot on this site...How do you call yourself a capper if you don't know this? YOU'RE AN IDIOT.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 1:26 AM ET #2108

    COLLEGE,

    FOR YOU NOT TO KNOW THE 3, 6, 13 RULE WAS SURPRISING TO ME...I HAVE NO IDEA HOW PEOPLE NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS.
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    COLLEGE,

    FOR YOU NOT TO KNOW THE 3, 6, 13 RULE WAS SURPRISING TO ME...I HAVE NO IDEA HOW PEOPLE NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 1:29 AM ET #2109

    Baronman- Scal made an intelligent post. If anyone makes an intelligent post I will give them props that's all.
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    Baronman- Scal made an intelligent post. If anyone makes an intelligent post I will give them props that's all.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 1:33 AM ET #2110

    I'm a two min drive from one of the books out here that's off the strip. That's how I had a chance to do a 2H bet if I wanted whenever.
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    I'm a two min drive from one of the books out here that's off the strip. That's how I had a chance to do a 2H bet if I wanted whenever.
     
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    scal, hawk, rangerz, all these guys have been here for centuries...Don't even converse with them, they will find a way to ban you.
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    scal, hawk, rangerz, all these guys have been here for centuries...Don't even converse with them, they will find a way to ban you.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 2:28 AM ET #2112

    Ok. College thought You were further away. How much that half point cost you I bought point on Houston /clippers to 216 Lost 215 Both teams combined 1-6 Last minute free throws . Small play Houston was biggest $55-50 Rest $20-30 Plays . Get them Thursday . Saw thread under Vegas about moving Vegas living dream I told them see College Gambler under General Discussions . Your up so far having nice run. Another covers guy said same thing. Out
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    Ok. College thought You were further away. How much that half point cost you I bought point on Houston /clippers to 216 Lost 215 Both teams combined 1-6 Last minute free throws . Small play Houston was biggest $55-50 Rest $20-30 Plays . Get them Thursday . Saw thread under Vegas about moving Vegas living dream I told them see College Gambler under General Discussions . Your up so far having nice run. Another covers guy said same thing. Out
     
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    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=843147
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    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=843147
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    What I do vs what CG does is two completely different things. If I find an ingame line that I can exploit (whether it be buying/selling or middling) then I will take it whether I have 0 bets on the night or 20 bets on the night)

    I don't spend hours capping games. I don't spend a second capping games. I can't even remember the last time I made a pregame wager. So it's a completely different ball game. But I still think the same general theory should apply. Of COURSE, it's easy to force a play on a bad night. I'm sure as hell not going to argue that. But I firmly believe discipline doesn't just mean not forcing plays. 

    Discipline means you are going to make the exact same play whether you are 5-0 on the night or 0-5. 

    My biggest success has been ingame/live betting

    Nothing like it in the world.
    multiple chance to create your own middles, You can protect yourself with big payouts and find virtually no way to lose if you are good at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    What I do vs what CG does is two completely different things. If I find an ingame line that I can exploit (whether it be buying/selling or middling) then I will take it whether I have 0 bets on the night or 20 bets on the night)

    I don't spend hours capping games. I don't spend a second capping games. I can't even remember the last time I made a pregame wager. So it's a completely different ball game. But I still think the same general theory should apply. Of COURSE, it's easy to force a play on a bad night. I'm sure as hell not going to argue that. But I firmly believe discipline doesn't just mean not forcing plays. 

    Discipline means you are going to make the exact same play whether you are 5-0 on the night or 0-5. 

    My biggest success has been ingame/live betting

    Nothing like it in the world.
    multiple chance to create your own middles, You can protect yourself with big payouts and find virtually no way to lose if you are good at it.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 5:55 AM ET #2115

    Quote Originally Posted by tdog25:

    COLLEGE,FOR YOU NOT TO KNOW THE 3, 6, 13 RULE WAS SURPRISING TO ME...I HAVE NO IDEA HOW PEOPLE NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS.

    Wtf is this rule you speak of? Google doesn't even know of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdog25:

    COLLEGE,FOR YOU NOT TO KNOW THE 3, 6, 13 RULE WAS SURPRISING TO ME...I HAVE NO IDEA HOW PEOPLE NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS.

    Wtf is this rule you speak of? Google doesn't even know of it.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 5:56 AM ET #2116

    CG I cannot wait for the Thursday 3k play. Bounce back!!!
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    CG I cannot wait for the Thursday 3k play. Bounce back!!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 7:08 AM ET #2117

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing
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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 7:10 AM ET #2118

    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing

    Dont miss the 'Staking comparison' sheet at the bottom for a nice diagram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing

    Dont miss the 'Staking comparison' sheet at the bottom for a nice diagram
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 7:11 AM ET #2119

    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing

    This is asuming your starting bankroll was 30K
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing

    This is asuming your starting bankroll was 30K
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 7:57 AM ET #2120

    Quote Originally Posted by tdog25:


    You are the biggest idiot on this site...How do you call yourself a capper if you don't know this? YOU'RE AN IDIOT.

    The guy who believes in a 3 6 13 theory is calling rangerz an idiot.

    OK. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdog25:


    You are the biggest idiot on this site...How do you call yourself a capper if you don't know this? YOU'RE AN IDIOT.

    The guy who believes in a 3 6 13 theory is calling rangerz an idiot.

    OK. 

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 8:02 AM ET #2121

    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing

    Nice chart Bermax.

    One thing though.  CGs "bankroll" is also his "livingroll".  So his running balance is decremented as his living expenses come in, and as MILFs need to eat.

    I point it out simply because there is a monthly goal that has to be hit in order for him not to make a lifestyle change (ie job).

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_BWDA28jmVQ0I02ZEfOJc_w-Bot-7OM_Tg0XzGLpJ_Q/edit?usp=sharing

    Nice chart Bermax.

    One thing though.  CGs "bankroll" is also his "livingroll".  So his running balance is decremented as his living expenses come in, and as MILFs need to eat.

    I point it out simply because there is a monthly goal that has to be hit in order for him not to make a lifestyle change (ie job).

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 8:25 AM ET #2122

    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    What I do vs what CG does is two completely different things. If I find an ingame line that I can exploit (whether it be buying/selling or middling) then I will take it whether I have 0 bets on the night or 20 bets on the night)

    I don't spend hours capping games. I don't spend a second capping games. I can't even remember the last time I made a pregame wager. So it's a completely different ball game. But I still think the same general theory should apply. Of COURSE, it's easy to force a play on a bad night. I'm sure as hell not going to argue that. But I firmly believe discipline doesn't just mean not forcing plays. 

    Discipline means you are going to make the exact same play whether you are 5-0 on the night or 0-5. 

    Let's say you play the Kings +8 over the Wizards. What if the Kings crap the bed right from the tip?

    You didn't cap it as you said, and you chose a game where you couldn't exploit it with a middle or a ML shift in game.

    This happens every night with bad teams.

    Not sure why that is so attractive. You must be capping a dog to some degree to know the game could go to +ML territory for the favorite.

    And I've seen in-game lines move. Dogs with pretty big leads early do not get the shifts in the ML and line to exploit. It's only late where they become solid lines. Too late for my comfort level. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    What I do vs what CG does is two completely different things. If I find an ingame line that I can exploit (whether it be buying/selling or middling) then I will take it whether I have 0 bets on the night or 20 bets on the night)

    I don't spend hours capping games. I don't spend a second capping games. I can't even remember the last time I made a pregame wager. So it's a completely different ball game. But I still think the same general theory should apply. Of COURSE, it's easy to force a play on a bad night. I'm sure as hell not going to argue that. But I firmly believe discipline doesn't just mean not forcing plays. 

    Discipline means you are going to make the exact same play whether you are 5-0 on the night or 0-5. 

    Let's say you play the Kings +8 over the Wizards. What if the Kings crap the bed right from the tip?

    You didn't cap it as you said, and you chose a game where you couldn't exploit it with a middle or a ML shift in game.

    This happens every night with bad teams.

    Not sure why that is so attractive. You must be capping a dog to some degree to know the game could go to +ML territory for the favorite.

    And I've seen in-game lines move. Dogs with pretty big leads early do not get the shifts in the ML and line to exploit. It's only late where they become solid lines. Too late for my comfort level. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 9:10 AM ET #2123

    Morning fellas ucla is 4-0 for me in pro career ATS and covered again. Wish I had taken them. Smh lol
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    Morning fellas ucla is 4-0 for me in pro career ATS and covered again. Wish I had taken them. Smh lol
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 9:18 AM ET #2124

    Quote Originally Posted by 3DTV:

    CG I cannot wait for the Thursday 3k play. Bounce back!!!

    Lol I will absolutely not do that. That would be pathetic money management. It's a marathon not a sprint brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3DTV:

    CG I cannot wait for the Thursday 3k play. Bounce back!!!

    Lol I will absolutely not do that. That would be pathetic money management. It's a marathon not a sprint brother
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2015 - 10:13 AM ET #2125

    How many plays you thinking today boss?
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