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    Laroja
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2015 - 11:53 AM ET #13176

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1JMJeQytXg

    New video. Claims that he is one of the best NFL cappers of all time. 
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1JMJeQytXg

    New video. Claims that he is one of the best NFL cappers of all time. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2015 - 2:14 PM ET #13177

    Taters shall tate but the Loooooot Crew shall stack the Fat and Nasty!

    Martha Stewart style!




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    Taters shall tate but the Loooooot Crew shall stack the Fat and Nasty!

    Martha Stewart style!




     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2015 - 5:55 PM ET #13178

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Wow!

    2-1!!!

    CG, you don't even need bankroll discipline to win this bet (your Achilles heel). If CG doesn't accept this bet, I don't want to hear about previous 60% hit-rate seasons! It's all on the table right here from Van to be verified with real money. This is an extraordinary offer.

    Nah....  The idea wasnt to throw down a typical covers challenge to CG and create a circus.

    I would just honestly like to be proven wrong here, and paying off a bet like this would be worth it.  I want to see the 60% longterm gut feel handicapper.  Thats my great white whale.

    The drama around this is probably not worth it and I re-read what I wrote above and regret it.  I wish CG nothing but the best, and hopes he continues doing what he wants.

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    Wow!

    2-1!!!

    CG, you don't even need bankroll discipline to win this bet (your Achilles heel). If CG doesn't accept this bet, I don't want to hear about previous 60% hit-rate seasons! It's all on the table right here from Van to be verified with real money. This is an extraordinary offer.

    Nah....  The idea wasnt to throw down a typical covers challenge to CG and create a circus.

    I would just honestly like to be proven wrong here, and paying off a bet like this would be worth it.  I want to see the 60% longterm gut feel handicapper.  Thats my great white whale.

    The drama around this is probably not worth it and I re-read what I wrote above and regret it.  I wish CG nothing but the best, and hopes he continues doing what he wants.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2015 - 6:03 PM ET #13179

    Man, as far as the video is concerned,Vanzack admitting he has had a subpar year has been used by everyone and anyone on this site to justify their struggles!
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    Man, as far as the video is concerned,Vanzack admitting he has had a subpar year has been used by everyone and anyone on this site to justify their struggles!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2015 - 6:45 PM ET #13180

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Nah....  The idea wasnt to throw down a typical covers challenge to CG and create a circus.

    I would just honestly like to be proven wrong here, and paying off a bet like this would be worth it.  I want to see the 60% longterm gut feel handicapper.  Thats my great white whale.

    The drama around this is probably not worth it and I re-read what I wrote above and regret it.  I wish CG nothing but the best, and hopes he continues doing what he wants.



    mmmm,i agree it mite be a touch risky...still think it extremely unlikely(for anyone,not just him) but i believe that 100 picks isnt quite a large enuff sample size to where you wud feel safe,especially laying 2 to 1 odds....hypothetically,it wud have to be all at -110(or-105)odds,rite??if the challenge was under-taken.




    oh,congratulations by the way vanzack!!!!


    for being one of the 2 greatest nfl handicappers that ever lived.....i heard it from a VERY reputable source...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Nah....  The idea wasnt to throw down a typical covers challenge to CG and create a circus.

    I would just honestly like to be proven wrong here, and paying off a bet like this would be worth it.  I want to see the 60% longterm gut feel handicapper.  Thats my great white whale.

    The drama around this is probably not worth it and I re-read what I wrote above and regret it.  I wish CG nothing but the best, and hopes he continues doing what he wants.



    mmmm,i agree it mite be a touch risky...still think it extremely unlikely(for anyone,not just him) but i believe that 100 picks isnt quite a large enuff sample size to where you wud feel safe,especially laying 2 to 1 odds....hypothetically,it wud have to be all at -110(or-105)odds,rite??if the challenge was under-taken.




    oh,congratulations by the way vanzack!!!!


    for being one of the 2 greatest nfl handicappers that ever lived.....i heard it from a VERY reputable source...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2015 - 7:18 PM ET #13181

    Just can't understand the "they gotta lose sometime" concept/reasoning for betting.  Be it ATS or SU.

    Another CG classic: "Carolina won't go 16-0..." so you take the other side.  I mean, how many times are you gonna fade a team like Cinci...while repeatedly using the words "they can't cover everytime"...before you either give them the respect or PHUCKING SKIP THE GAME?!?  Who cares about historical trends or records?  If those were guarantees to PROFIT, then why aren't you at that 60%...why not HIGHER?  "Because this year is ____"  EXACTLY bro, T-H-I-S  Y-E-A-R !  What sense does it make to C-H-A-S-E.  Because that's exactly what you do Nick.  

    You're like a degen at the track or a degen at the casino.  You take a chance, nobody can fault that.  But should you lose, you don't take it lightly -- you rant on and on like the world robbed you.  And when that's interrupted, it's by your next play.  Your units, errr "bombs" vary for no other real reason.  

    I'd kill for the chance you had: to phuck off from work, live in a party city, and have 24/7 action.  But Vegas is not the place for you...you need to stay behind a monitor where even YOU get tired of it, and walk away to LIVE LIFE, occasionally.

    Don't know why I waste my breath though...you know these things.  They've been said thousands and THOUSANDS of times -- RIGHT HERE IN THIS THREAD.  Looking like the same for RX one day.  Call us haters all you want, but I'm willing to bet everything I've got that at one time or another, every person that you say hates or roots for you to lose, had something positive to say to you.  Be it a play, a hope for you to turn it around, a betting strategy, etc.  Even an unpleasant remark, trying to open your damn eyes.  #Youreblind  #YouareNOTapro
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    Just can't understand the "they gotta lose sometime" concept/reasoning for betting.  Be it ATS or SU.

    Another CG classic: "Carolina won't go 16-0..." so you take the other side.  I mean, how many times are you gonna fade a team like Cinci...while repeatedly using the words "they can't cover everytime"...before you either give them the respect or PHUCKING SKIP THE GAME?!?  Who cares about historical trends or records?  If those were guarantees to PROFIT, then why aren't you at that 60%...why not HIGHER?  "Because this year is ____"  EXACTLY bro, T-H-I-S  Y-E-A-R !  What sense does it make to C-H-A-S-E.  Because that's exactly what you do Nick.  

    You're like a degen at the track or a degen at the casino.  You take a chance, nobody can fault that.  But should you lose, you don't take it lightly -- you rant on and on like the world robbed you.  And when that's interrupted, it's by your next play.  Your units, errr "bombs" vary for no other real reason.  

    I'd kill for the chance you had: to phuck off from work, live in a party city, and have 24/7 action.  But Vegas is not the place for you...you need to stay behind a monitor where even YOU get tired of it, and walk away to LIVE LIFE, occasionally.

    Don't know why I waste my breath though...you know these things.  They've been said thousands and THOUSANDS of times -- RIGHT HERE IN THIS THREAD.  Looking like the same for RX one day.  Call us haters all you want, but I'm willing to bet everything I've got that at one time or another, every person that you say hates or roots for you to lose, had something positive to say to you.  Be it a play, a hope for you to turn it around, a betting strategy, etc.  Even an unpleasant remark, trying to open your damn eyes.  #Youreblind  #YouareNOTapro
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2015 - 8:28 PM ET #13182

    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1JMJeQytXg

    New video. Claims that he is one of the best NFL cappers of all time. 

    Too funny. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1JMJeQytXg

    New video. Claims that he is one of the best NFL cappers of all time. 

    Too funny. 


     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 12:46 PM ET #13183

    I have a serious question how did he get his 401k to over $40,000.  What investments did he make and how much did he contribute
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    I have a serious question how did he get his 401k to over $40,000.  What investments did he make and how much did he contribute
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkjc:

    I have a serious question how did he get his 401k to over $40,000.  What investments did he make and how much did he contribute

    Tough to tell unless you know the company he worked at and how much the company contributes.  Typically for your contribution can be anywhere from 3%-6% and employer sometimes matches your contribution or matches half, etc.  Each employer is different.  

    Basically in 5+ years of work with a decent base and a good 401K match program its really not so unbelievable for CG (or anyone for that matter) to accumulate 40-50K in his 401K.
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    I have a serious question how did he get his 401k to over $40,000.  What investments did he make and how much did he contribute

    Tough to tell unless you know the company he worked at and how much the company contributes.  Typically for your contribution can be anywhere from 3%-6% and employer sometimes matches your contribution or matches half, etc.  Each employer is different.  

    Basically in 5+ years of work with a decent base and a good 401K match program its really not so unbelievable for CG (or anyone for that matter) to accumulate 40-50K in his 401K.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 4:23 PM ET #13185

    Taters shall tate but the Loooooot Crew shall stack the Fat and Nasty!

    Martha Stewart style!



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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 5:30 PM ET #13186

    Quote Originally Posted by jkjc:

    I have a serious question how did he get his 401k to over $40,000.  What investments did he make and how much did he contribute

    It's not hard to make 40k in your 401k at all. Just keep your contributions level at about 10% with an employer match and even in a moderately poor market, you'll be there in 4-5 years.

    The problem is you are taking a loan from yourself on pretax dollars and have to pay it back with post-tax salary.

    Default? The taxes and penalties are significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkjc:

    I have a serious question how did he get his 401k to over $40,000.  What investments did he make and how much did he contribute

    It's not hard to make 40k in your 401k at all. Just keep your contributions level at about 10% with an employer match and even in a moderately poor market, you'll be there in 4-5 years.

    The problem is you are taking a loan from yourself on pretax dollars and have to pay it back with post-tax salary.

    Default? The taxes and penalties are significant.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 5:59 PM ET #13187

    I guess my question is what investments he made.  To save $40,000 in a 401k in 5 years is very strong. I've worked 5 years contribute 10% and I'm there but my match is only 50%
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    I guess my question is what investments he made.  To save $40,000 in a 401k in 5 years is very strong. I've worked 5 years contribute 10% and I'm there but my match is only 50%
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 6:06 PM ET #13188

    I'm not there*, but I've just sat in cash.  If somebody just bought index funds I can see that as possible.  Just giving him credit for a job well done and seeing what he did
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    I'm not there*, but I've just sat in cash.  If somebody just bought index funds I can see that as possible.  Just giving him credit for a job well done and seeing what he did
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    It's not hard to make 40k in your 401k at all. Just keep your contributions level at about 10% with an employer match and even in a moderately poor market, you'll be there in 4-5 years.

    The problem is you are taking a loan from yourself on pretax dollars and have to pay it back with post-tax salary.

    Default? The taxes and penalties are significant.

    Oddly enough, a guy who is bleeding cash doesn't make one peep about the tax hit that he took in cashing this "401K" of his. He would have at least 10K in penalties. I stand by my belief that this was some sort of trust fund that didn't entail a huge tax hit when cashing out.

    Additionally, I don't know too many 27 year old gambling addicts who would have that much socked away. I distinctly remember this guy coming on to Covers about three or four years ago claiming that he was down on his luck and afraid that he was going to have to tell his parents that he was out of money. He hit a big parlay with the last of his funds, and then got hot. That is how he built his name on Covers. So the likelihood of the guy not touching a 401K at that point of desperation would have been incredibly slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    It's not hard to make 40k in your 401k at all. Just keep your contributions level at about 10% with an employer match and even in a moderately poor market, you'll be there in 4-5 years.

    The problem is you are taking a loan from yourself on pretax dollars and have to pay it back with post-tax salary.

    Default? The taxes and penalties are significant.

    Oddly enough, a guy who is bleeding cash doesn't make one peep about the tax hit that he took in cashing this "401K" of his. He would have at least 10K in penalties. I stand by my belief that this was some sort of trust fund that didn't entail a huge tax hit when cashing out.

    Additionally, I don't know too many 27 year old gambling addicts who would have that much socked away. I distinctly remember this guy coming on to Covers about three or four years ago claiming that he was down on his luck and afraid that he was going to have to tell his parents that he was out of money. He hit a big parlay with the last of his funds, and then got hot. That is how he built his name on Covers. So the likelihood of the guy not touching a 401K at that point of desperation would have been incredibly slim.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 9:50 PM ET #13190

    Packers -3 for $2K....    Once again, Mr. "I'm not a square" betting on a primetime game for the sake of betting on a primetime game.  
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    Packers -3 for $2K....    Once again, Mr. "I'm not a square" betting on a primetime game for the sake of betting on a primetime game.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 10:05 PM ET #13191

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Packers -3 for $2K....    Once again, Mr. "I'm not a square" betting on a primetime game for the sake of betting on a primetime game.  

    Don't laugh man, CG LOVES his person, BLIT and PRIMETIME GAMES. 
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    Packers -3 for $2K....    Once again, Mr. "I'm not a square" betting on a primetime game for the sake of betting on a primetime game.  

    Don't laugh man, CG LOVES his person, BLIT and PRIMETIME GAMES. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 10:18 PM ET #13192

    ...and he got a terrible line... -2 was widely available  

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    ...and he got a terrible line... -2 was widely available  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2015 - 11:50 PM ET #13193

    "A miracle for the ages. Will never ever complain again. Amazing. Watching with my boys from New York too at the book visiting. We all had the pack went insane"

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    "A miracle for the ages. Will never ever complain again. Amazing. Watching with my boys from New York too at the book visiting. We all had the pack went insane"

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    Green Bay Packers -3 (even) $2000/$2000. Play couldn't be more square but lose in nfl each week trying to be a tough guy and betting sharp. Both teams a ton of injuries if glover Quinn is out for Detroit and obviously Calvin Johnson are out for Detroit would be huge. Pack might have 3 offensive lineman out but Lacey didn't play in the first matchup and I doubt the pack get swept. People questioning Rodgers of late but he will prove tomm while he is the second best Qb in the league (behind Brady) and the pack will get a huge road win in DETROIT. Stock couldn't be higher for Detroit after there good play of late and thrashing of philly on national tv on turkey day. The pack with a huge revenge angle here and will avoid the Detroit sweep. Bol all not sure what the line will do but wanted to grab this one at even money while it was still offered




    My god....you cannot make it up. You cannot. To cover that game...not only to win...but to cover -3 (which was a bad line as he could have gotten -2)

    If he lost this game he would have been screaming the second to last play was obvious pass interference.


    What goes around comes around because last year he did have the Heat -1 in this link with a 16 pt lead late in the third. This packers game was far luckier though:

    https://youtu.be/yPHo2Esno9A

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    Green Bay Packers -3 (even) $2000/$2000. Play couldn't be more square but lose in nfl each week trying to be a tough guy and betting sharp. Both teams a ton of injuries if glover Quinn is out for Detroit and obviously Calvin Johnson are out for Detroit would be huge. Pack might have 3 offensive lineman out but Lacey didn't play in the first matchup and I doubt the pack get swept. People questioning Rodgers of late but he will prove tomm while he is the second best Qb in the league (behind Brady) and the pack will get a huge road win in DETROIT. Stock couldn't be higher for Detroit after there good play of late and thrashing of philly on national tv on turkey day. The pack with a huge revenge angle here and will avoid the Detroit sweep. Bol all not sure what the line will do but wanted to grab this one at even money while it was still offered




    My god....you cannot make it up. You cannot. To cover that game...not only to win...but to cover -3 (which was a bad line as he could have gotten -2)

    If he lost this game he would have been screaming the second to last play was obvious pass interference.


    What goes around comes around because last year he did have the Heat -1 in this link with a 16 pt lead late in the third. This packers game was far luckier though:

    https://youtu.be/yPHo2Esno9A

     
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    Scal, he has had a TON of incredible miracle wins over the past couple months that have been ridiculously luckier than that Bucks loss. The packer one tonight was obvious, but it's one of about 5 absolute miracles. 


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    Scal, he has had a TON of incredible miracle wins over the past couple months that have been ridiculously luckier than that Bucks loss. The packer one tonight was obvious, but it's one of about 5 absolute miracles. 


     
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    I'm ok that he has gotten those breaks in his favor, all part of the game. 

    The thing that is incredibly annoying is how even after all his miracles, he STILL complains the second something goes against him. Will be interesting to see how long it takes him to complain how unlucky he is. 

    I put the over/under at 1.5 days. 
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    I'm ok that he has gotten those breaks in his favor, all part of the game. 

    The thing that is incredibly annoying is how even after all his miracles, he STILL complains the second something goes against him. Will be interesting to see how long it takes him to complain how unlucky he is. 

    I put the over/under at 1.5 days. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:

    "A miracle for the ages. Will never ever complain again. Amazing. Watching with my boys from New York too at the book visiting. We all had the pack went insane"

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    uuuuummmmmm,im giving the over/under on this promise being broken 3 days MAXIMUM!!!!!!.....thats if he makes wagers within that period(as if theres any way he wont)
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    "A miracle for the ages. Will never ever complain again. Amazing. Watching with my boys from New York too at the book visiting. We all had the pack went insane"

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    uuuuummmmmm,im giving the over/under on this promise being broken 3 days MAXIMUM!!!!!!.....thats if he makes wagers within that period(as if theres any way he wont)
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:

    I'm ok that he has gotten those breaks in his favor, all part of the game. 

    The thing that is incredibly annoying is how even after all his miracles, he STILL complains the second something goes against him. Will be interesting to see how long it takes him to complain how unlucky he is. 

    I put the over/under at 1.5 days. 

    I dunno if anyones ever noticed or pointed this out......but i think this pattern has come about due largely to the fact that....HE'S A MORON!!!.with the memory retention and attention span of an ant.


    oh,just noticed your line now..probably much fairer than mine to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:

    I'm ok that he has gotten those breaks in his favor, all part of the game. 

    The thing that is incredibly annoying is how even after all his miracles, he STILL complains the second something goes against him. Will be interesting to see how long it takes him to complain how unlucky he is. 

    I put the over/under at 1.5 days. 

    I dunno if anyones ever noticed or pointed this out......but i think this pattern has come about due largely to the fact that....HE'S A MORON!!!.with the memory retention and attention span of an ant.


    oh,just noticed your line now..probably much fairer than mine to be honest.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Packers -3 for $2K....    Once again, Mr. "I'm not a square" betting on a primetime game for the sake of betting on a primetime game.  



    hold up,hold up,hold up...enuff of the ridiculous baseless criticism....today was a "square day" so no problem here....remember monday,wednesday,thursday are days when he decides to bet "square"....tuesday,friday and saturday are days to bet "sharp" and obviously sunday is determined by whether it is raining or not in the morning.


    and then it alternates with the changing of months of course.....perhaps you are not a professional so i can understand how you would have no clue about this...

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    Packers -3 for $2K....    Once again, Mr. "I'm not a square" betting on a primetime game for the sake of betting on a primetime game.  



    hold up,hold up,hold up...enuff of the ridiculous baseless criticism....today was a "square day" so no problem here....remember monday,wednesday,thursday are days when he decides to bet "square"....tuesday,friday and saturday are days to bet "sharp" and obviously sunday is determined by whether it is raining or not in the morning.


    and then it alternates with the changing of months of course.....perhaps you are not a professional so i can understand how you would have no clue about this...

     
     
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    uuuuummmmmm,im giving the over/under on this promise being broken 3 days MAXIMUM!!!!!!.....thats if he makes wagers within that period(as if theres any way he wont)

    Please put me down for a max wager on the under.  My "friend" also wants to get a max wager down too, and 7 other "friends".  

    Also put me down for a max wager that he plays the MAC Title Game tonight (since he's hot in college).  
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    uuuuummmmmm,im giving the over/under on this promise being broken 3 days MAXIMUM!!!!!!.....thats if he makes wagers within that period(as if theres any way he wont)

    Please put me down for a max wager on the under.  My "friend" also wants to get a max wager down too, and 7 other "friends".  

    Also put me down for a max wager that he plays the MAC Title Game tonight (since he's hot in college).  
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