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collegegambler

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:45 PM ET #9251

agree Vanzack but if they WIN it dosent matter...

just step up and win and then it's simply a winner

desperate times call for desperate measures... the extra $400 is def worth it when I am basically down to my life savings being on the line

vanzack

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:47 PM ET #9252

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

This is the problem.

You are accepting terrible odds on that extra 400 bucks you paid for this half point because of desperation. Not that it makes sense, not that it is good value - but you are paying over 2-1 for a 400 dollar wager that it will land on exactly MSU winning by 1. You do realize that you are doing that right?

When you buy a half point, you can think of it like you are making a separate wager that it will matter. In your case, you made a 400 dollar wager that MSU will win by exactly 1 point to win 4,400. You laid 11-1 that MSU will win by exactly a point. What are the true odds of this? I don't know, but not 11-1 - that is an absolutely horrific value bet.

All in the name of desperation.

Maybe someone here who actually knows college hoops can tell me what the odds of MSU winning by exactly 1 are tonight.

11-1 this guy took. Jeesh.

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scalabrine

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:48 PM ET #9253

Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

and then what Vanzack deal with there dumb payout fees and rules and wait two weeks for ur cash?

online is mickey mouse I am in the big leagues out here. paid on the damn spot... I want 88 crisp C NOTES When this one goes FINAL tonight

lets go SPARTy

Dumb payout fees? $40 for a check to your mailbox is a 'payout fee' with that kind of money? And it'll be FedExed. Won't be two weeks.

And who cares about 88 crisp C-Notes?

What are you planning to do with the money?

Roll around in it naked like you're Demi Moore in Indecent Proposal?

vanzack

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:49 PM ET #9254

Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

agree Vanzack but if they WIN it dosent matter...

just step up and win and then it's simply a winner

desperate times call for desperate measures... the extra $400 is def worth it when I am basically down to my life savings being on the line

I think you are missing the point here CG.

You have a 400 dollar wager to win 4,400 that MSU wins by exactly 1 point.

YOU LOSE THIS 400 DOLLARS IF THEY WIN BY ANY OTHER MARGIN.

I don't think you get this.

Try to understand. Just because it seems like you bought a half point - you really didn't. You made a separate wager that MSU would win by exactly 1 point. If they don't - even if they win by 2-40, YOU DONT WIN, you lose this wager.

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collegegambler

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:50 PM ET #9255

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Their "dumb" payout fees - whatever they are - are miniscule compared to the money you are blowing by paying extra vig. Wait 2 weeks? Take a WD by bitcoin, zero WD fees, have it in your hands in hours.

Be serious.

Online mickey mouse. That's funny. In your case, it really wouldn't matter - the extra money you would save by betting online would just mean you get an extra week or two of your bankroll. But face it - you didn't move to vegas to become a professional gambler - you went there for a vacation - and to tell everyone how you are living the dream - even if it is for just a couple of months.

You lived the dream!! For 2 months. Great.

not over yet brother.. don't count out the jersey cockroach just yet

what were the odds I lost my Heat beat up 79-65 in Milwaukee? what were the odds I lost SPURS ML against the cavs up 6 with 35 seconds... up 3 with 13 seconds shooting TWO FT's?

it's time to simply deliver tonight

FonziGAMETIME

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:50 PM ET #9256

CG I NEED YOU TO PLAY THIS SONG ALL DAMNNN DAYY AND YOULL GET THE WIN TODAY!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt_JGHYEO4

lovethedough

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:51 PM ET #9257

Everyone telling CG what to do, because everyone has the answers.

Everyone stopped posting all of their own picks on covers, because they were making people too much money.

CG - You should have listened to everyone here. They all would have won you big money with their own money management and picks. In fact, all these guys are making people a killing on covers. They made people on covers so much money posting their picks, they just stopped posting.

If you would have listened to guys like Brady and everyone else., you would have been up 15k by now. These guys just stopped posting their own picks everyday because they were making everyone too much money.

HutchEmAll

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:53 PM ET #9258

Two short months ago, you started your Vegas journey touting discipline and money management and were betting $550 a game.

Last night, you paid ALMOST HALF THAT amount to buy .5 point in a game with a 13.5 spread largely because you lost the Florida game when you were getting 16.5 points.

The transformation in 2 moths is beyond remarkable.

collegegambler

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:54 PM ET #9259

love the dough- get on sparty with me tonight. need a winner bad

zooyorkinc

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:55 PM ET #9260

Skip the dinner, watch the game.

BWS77

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 3:59 PM ET #9261

Is that a fart right at the end of the latest video or is the seat of your ride squeaking?

collegegambler

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:00 PM ET #9262

Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

Two short months ago, you started your Vegas journey touting discipline and money management and were betting $550 a game.

Last night, you paid ALMOST HALF THAT amount to buy .5 point in a game with a 13.5 spread largely because you lost the Florida game when you were getting 16.5 points.

The transformation in 2 moths is beyond remarkable.

people were begging the CG to raise his bets and I was so disciplined I only did a few K plays but 9/10 plays were $550/$500

up $6950 3.5 weeks in and my mother came and I went off the deep end

unreal

still time to turn it around but a win tonight is as close to a must win as u could possibly even imagine

tsw

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:02 PM ET #9263

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Oh you attended?

Thanks for coming. I was the featured (only) speaker.

The seminar went like this and consisted of two powerpoint slides:

Slide 1: How not to manage your money

Slide 2: Don't be like 'this guy' (accompanied by a picture of CG and his coked up MILF).

"Thank you all for coming" were the only words I spoke.

After a standing ovation, I was escorted out of the building by armed security to avoid the paparazzi as people screamed "You've changed my life!" and "I now know the secret!". Oprah left me a voicemail and I may get to it after watching tonight's MSU game.

rangerz2478

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:06 PM ET #9264

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Watch out for Oklahoma. Remember what I said about having an 'angle' to cap a game, outside of records/rankings/streaks/spreads/public support which is the standard capping quintet?

Oklahoma appears to be strongly riding this racist frat fiasco into the ground by playing with pride on the court and bringing respectability and positive press back to the University, while their fraternities bring them down.

Most people think this kind of thing is complete and utter bullsh** but I've been capping my entire life and these psychological motivators (i.e. That Okies are now playing with very intense school pride) are very, very powerful, especially among the younger generation of which college students are.

You will be fading such an angle to take MSU and Izzo for....what angle? None other than you like MSU and they've paid you in the past. That's not much to go with.

Be very very careful with this game CG.

Putting all the other "off the court"/money management nonsense aside lets be real scal....

He throws darts, plain and simple. There is no method to the madness, no formula to cap games, no plan. He is an elementary capper at best who had a good run over a semi-decent sample size. I could flip a coin 100 times, and it could land on heads 65 times. Does that make me a good coin flip predictor?

collegegambler

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:07 PM ET #9265

one thing u can see I def did this thing MY WAY

we aren't done babbby we got a GREAT, GREAT play tonight

im kind of pissed I didn't put the whole life savings on it.. but just under half is probably enough... the banks here think I am so sick.. guy today asked me what I do for work.. even tho I rotate between wells fargo's I go to the same ones enough they think I am a real sick fuckk

KennyWoo

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:10 PM ET #9266

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

And right now - on 5D - you can get the ML for -118.

CG buys MSU at -1 -120.

Could sit on couch and bet them PK for -118.

Professional. Really professional.

rangerz2478

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:12 PM ET #9267

Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

and then what Vanzack deal with there dumb payout fees and rules and wait two weeks for ur cash?

online is mickey mouse I am in the big leagues out here. paid on the damn spot... I want 88 crisp C NOTES When this one goes FINAL tonight

lets go SPARTy

WOW.

This could not be further from the truth. Vegas isn't the big leagues. Vegas is a career minor leaguer who is scratching and clawing to stay in single A ball.

rangerz2478

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:14 PM ET #9268

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Oh you attended?

Thanks for coming. I was the featured (only) speaker.

The seminar went like this and consisted of two powerpoint slides:

Slide 1: How not to manage your money

Slide 2: Don't be like 'this guy' (accompanied by a picture of CG and his coked up MILF).

"Thank you all for coming" were the only words I spoke.

collegegambler

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:18 PM ET #9269

crack ur jokes all u want... the LEGEND will deliver with the Spartans

fonzi about to go check out that song u posted

rangerz2478

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:18 PM ET #9270

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I think you are missing the point here CG.

You have a 400 dollar wager to win 4,400 that MSU wins by exactly 1 point.

YOU LOSE THIS 400 DOLLARS IF THEY WIN BY ANY OTHER MARGIN.

I don't think you get this.

It's like talking to a wall man. At least the wall won't say he "understands" then completely changes the subject to something else. The wall will at least sit there, and take it.

tsw

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:19 PM ET #9271

Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:

WOW.

This could not be further from the truth. Vegas isn't the big leagues. Vegas is a career minor leaguer who is scratching and clawing to stay in single A ball.

KennyWoo

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 4:22 PM ET #9272

Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

and then what Vanzack deal with there dumb payout fees and rules and wait two weeks for ur cash?

online is mickey mouse I am in the big leagues out here. paid on the damn spot... I want 88 crisp C NOTES When this one goes FINAL tonight

lets go SPARTy

I must admit I don't understand the allure of the "crisp C Notes." So far you are down 131 crisp C Notes. It doesn't matter if those funds are held in escrow by an online book or if you held them in "crisp" form before handing them over to Vegas. The way you have been running so far the form of your payout is the last thing you should be worrying about because you have no profits.

You are paying dearly for an education in sports gambling. You need to learn something from this or it will all be for naught. Lessons on the importance of juice, money management, not steam betting, not betting drunk, not taking the worst of a line, not make a line even worse by buying half-points, etc., etc., etc. You should be learning the lessons for which you are paying through your nose. Instead you are swirling the drain with more and more moves that push you to the brink of disaster.

You can still turn this around, but you need to get a job and wait it out until football season. Then flat bet at a responsible percentage of your bankroll. No "bomb" plays.

tonight.