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    Raiders22
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2014 - 1:15 AM ET #626

    In Sparty's defense many guys do come in here and are flash in the pan and tout wannabes.  I think after this many picks he should be more conciliatory is all. 
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2014 - 1:46 AM ET #627

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    In Sparty's defense many guys do come in here and are flash in the pan and tout wannabes.  I think after this many picks he should be more conciliatory is all.
    Yes Raiders I know, in past years I was victim to some myself. Only the passage of time will make MOST realize I dont need a penny for my picks. I actually make plenty from them.

    As I said before if I wanted to rake it in as a singles bettor. I would simply wait for two losses THEN start raising. Because the greatest strength of the Zone is and shall always be the rarity of long losing streaks. Ive given out over 160 picks now and never lost more than four in a row. And that was once.

    Funny how Sparty doesnt bring that stat forward. Negative people dont get anywhere in this life. And I avoid them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    In Sparty's defense many guys do come in here and are flash in the pan and tout wannabes.  I think after this many picks he should be more conciliatory is all.
    Yes Raiders I know, in past years I was victim to some myself. Only the passage of time will make MOST realize I dont need a penny for my picks. I actually make plenty from them.

    As I said before if I wanted to rake it in as a singles bettor. I would simply wait for two losses THEN start raising. Because the greatest strength of the Zone is and shall always be the rarity of long losing streaks. Ive given out over 160 picks now and never lost more than four in a row. And that was once.

    Funny how Sparty doesnt bring that stat forward. Negative people dont get anywhere in this life. And I avoid them...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2014 - 5:18 AM ET #628

    BANKROLL 1001.41

    NINGBO CHALLENGER

    Q.WANG@1.57--Stake 4

    RECORD 112--56
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    NINGBO CHALLENGER

    Q.WANG@1.57--Stake 4

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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2014 - 6:34 PM ET #629

    BANKROLL 1003.69 UNITS

    NINGBO CHALLENGER

    Q.WANG@1.53--Stake 4 units

    RECORD 113--56
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    Q.WANG@1.53--Stake 4 units

    RECORD 113--56
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2014 - 1:41 AM ET #630

    Quote Originally Posted by bet9units:


    As said earlier. If you can't make money using his picks with his win rate then you are a moron. Thanks for exposing yourself. Ignore his staking, create your own and profit.

    LOL @ exposing myself. I haven't played a single of his picks.
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    As said earlier. If you can't make money using his picks with his win rate then you are a moron. Thanks for exposing yourself. Ignore his staking, create your own and profit.

    LOL @ exposing myself. I haven't played a single of his picks.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2014 - 2:37 AM ET #631

    Quote Originally Posted by maikaal:

    Quote Originally Posted by bet9units:

    As said earlier. If you can't make money using his picks with his win rate then you are a moron. Thanks for exposing yourself. Ignore his staking, create your own and profit.
    LOL @ exposing myself. I haven't played a single of his picks.
    Maikaal thats fine, but you must have the WHOLE picture before you make a statement like you did a few days ago. Im a parlay player. And Im now only using this thread and this bankroll only for the purpose of laying the first leg of my parlay bets. I have no interest in trying to make real profit here.

    Go over to my Parlay thread and you will realize not only am I winning. But a year from now I will have changed alot of attitudes about parlay betting. Which is the easiest way to beat the bookmakers once you have a decent hit rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maikaal:

    Quote Originally Posted by bet9units:

    As said earlier. If you can't make money using his picks with his win rate then you are a moron. Thanks for exposing yourself. Ignore his staking, create your own and profit.
    LOL @ exposing myself. I haven't played a single of his picks.
    Maikaal thats fine, but you must have the WHOLE picture before you make a statement like you did a few days ago. Im a parlay player. And Im now only using this thread and this bankroll only for the purpose of laying the first leg of my parlay bets. I have no interest in trying to make real profit here.

    Go over to my Parlay thread and you will realize not only am I winning. But a year from now I will have changed alot of attitudes about parlay betting. Which is the easiest way to beat the bookmakers once you have a decent hit rate.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2014 - 4:59 AM ET #632

    BANKROLL 999.69

    ECKENTAL CHALLENGER

    R.BEMELMANS@1.62--Stake 5 units

    RECORD 113--57

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    R.BEMELMANS@1.62--Stake 5 units

    RECORD 113--57

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2014 - 10:10 AM ET #633

    BANKROLL 1002.79

    WTA SOFIA--BULGARIA

    F.PENNETTA@1.67--Stake 4 units

    RECORD 114--57

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    WTA SOFIA--BULGARIA

    F.PENNETTA@1.67--Stake 4 units

    RECORD 114--57

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2014 - 5:22 PM ET #634

    BANKROLL 998.79

    TRARALGON CHALLENGER

    B.KLAHN@1.73--Stake 6 units

    RECORD 114--58
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    TRARALGON CHALLENGER

    B.KLAHN@1.73--Stake 6 units

    RECORD 114--58
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 4:20 AM ET #635

    Nice strike rate but the odds you play and being down overall on the units seems about right given odds you lay. Do you not try and handicap underdogs for any reason in wta? A lot of straight up winners there as well as on the Games won options.
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    Nice strike rate but the odds you play and being down overall on the units seems about right given odds you lay. Do you not try and handicap underdogs for any reason in wta? A lot of straight up winners there as well as on the Games won options.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 6:02 AM ET #636

    Quote Originally Posted by gtmoney76:

    Nice strike rate but the odds you play and being down overall on the units seems about right given odds you lay. Do you not try and handicap underdogs for any reason in wta? A lot of straight up winners there as well as on the Games won options.
    Gt im not down. This thread isnt for profit only laying stage one of my parlays. The profit is on the other thread. If I want profit here the way I will play it is different to whay im doing now. Im only laying enough to stay around break even point.
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    Nice strike rate but the odds you play and being down overall on the units seems about right given odds you lay. Do you not try and handicap underdogs for any reason in wta? A lot of straight up winners there as well as on the Games won options.
    Gt im not down. This thread isnt for profit only laying stage one of my parlays. The profit is on the other thread. If I want profit here the way I will play it is different to whay im doing now. Im only laying enough to stay around break even point.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 8:53 AM ET #637

    anything today Sentinel?
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    anything today Sentinel?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 10:11 AM ET #638

    Quote Originally Posted by pep11:

    anything today Sentinel?
    Im waiting Pep11, will have one posted in the next 60 minutes.
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    anything today Sentinel?
    Im waiting Pep11, will have one posted in the next 60 minutes.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 12:08 PM ET #639

    BANKROLL 1003.17

    LIMOGES CHALLENGER

    O.DODIN@1.53--Stake 4 units

    RECORD 115--58
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    O.DODIN@1.53--Stake 4 units

    RECORD 115--58
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 4:09 PM ET #640

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:


    111-56. Who else does this at this price range?  If you just play these flat you do fine without parlays or adjusting units up or down. Thread is not a dud so far to me. Gotta give credit to the picks even if you don't like the wagering strategy. 

    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.
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    111-56. Who else does this at this price range?  If you just play these flat you do fine without parlays or adjusting units up or down. Thread is not a dud so far to me. Gotta give credit to the picks even if you don't like the wagering strategy. 

    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 5:10 PM ET #641

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTenWatto:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    111-56. Who else does this at this price range?  If you just play these flat you do fine without parlays or adjusting units up or down. Thread is not a dud so far to me. Gotta give credit to the picks even if you don't like the wagering strategy. 
    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.
    Bigtenwatto I am currently up 125 units. This thread ISNT for making profit. Its purpose is to lay the first part of my Parlay.

    The second part of the bet on my parlay thread is where the money is made. So you and everyone else need to take this onboard. Im a parlay player. Thats how I make my living in real life. And im now playing in that fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    111-56. Who else does this at this price range?  If you just play these flat you do fine without parlays or adjusting units up or down. Thread is not a dud so far to me. Gotta give credit to the picks even if you don't like the wagering strategy. 
    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.
    Bigtenwatto I am currently up 125 units. This thread ISNT for making profit. Its purpose is to lay the first part of my Parlay.

    The second part of the bet on my parlay thread is where the money is made. So you and everyone else need to take this onboard. Im a parlay player. Thats how I make my living in real life. And im now playing in that fashion.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 5:20 PM ET #642

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTenWatto:


    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.

    And another one shows his colors...Sentinel kills it, and I've been killing it tailing his plays. Open parlay the high juice, flat bet the others. It's not that difficult people.

    Do people even read the thread or notice his staking has been all over the place? He's stated a dozen times that he parlays yet fools keep coming in ignoring that fact.

    If you need someone to hold your hand and make all your decisions for you to profit, then you shouldnt be betting.
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    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.

    And another one shows his colors...Sentinel kills it, and I've been killing it tailing his plays. Open parlay the high juice, flat bet the others. It's not that difficult people.

    Do people even read the thread or notice his staking has been all over the place? He's stated a dozen times that he parlays yet fools keep coming in ignoring that fact.

    If you need someone to hold your hand and make all your decisions for you to profit, then you shouldnt be betting.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 5:21 PM ET #643

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTenWatto:


    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.
    Oh I get that point. I would for sure use the plays on a more consistent unit play if I were to play them on straight bets. I am sure no one else is hitting 66%. So you should be able to evenly and make 6-7% easily. The parlay thing is much better idea to me because of the win%. Yes when you raise and lower units and lose a big unit play it lowers ROI. But if the plan is to win steadily, this seems to work. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTenWatto:


    Raiders, I think you might be missing the point. His record is 115-58, which on the face of it, is 66%. Nice winning percentage. But, he is up 3 units. To make 173 bets to win 3 units is kind of crazy. That's insane risk. I'm not the greatest math/stats guy but, if his average wager is 3 units (I know its way higher than that but, for example) then he has wagered 517 units to win 3? Seems like a ton of risk and a ton of work for less than 1% ROI.
    Oh I get that point. I would for sure use the plays on a more consistent unit play if I were to play them on straight bets. I am sure no one else is hitting 66%. So you should be able to evenly and make 6-7% easily. The parlay thing is much better idea to me because of the win%. Yes when you raise and lower units and lose a big unit play it lowers ROI. But if the plan is to win steadily, this seems to work. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 5:22 PM ET #644

    I can see what im going to have to do is let this thread drop and record both stages of the parlay on the parlay threaf for this to register in peoples minds.
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    I can see what im going to have to do is let this thread drop and record both stages of the parlay on the parlay threaf for this to register in peoples minds.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 5:27 PM ET #645

    Its amazing I have two people on here who get how this.works. Bet9units and Raiders22...
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    Its amazing I have two people on here who get how this.works. Bet9units and Raiders22...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 6:14 PM ET #646

    As of now this thread a is defunct no more. From tomorrow Both stages of the parlay will be layed and recorded on the Rolling parlays for the Zone thread. So everyone can see where I currently stand. And where im going...
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    As of now this thread a is defunct no more. From tomorrow Both stages of the parlay will be layed and recorded on the Rolling parlays for the Zone thread. So everyone can see where I currently stand. And where im going...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 6:21 PM ET #647

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    As of now this thread a is defunct no more. From tomorrow Both stages of the parlay will be layed and recorded on the Rolling parlays for the Zone thread. So everyone can see where I currently stand. And where im going...

    When im in STAGE 1 of the parlay this will be made clear at the top of the post..and when im in STAGE 2. That will be noted also at the top of the post. Because I practice ROLLING PARLAYS. As long as I am winning I will continuously be in STAGE 2.

    I will only revert back to STAGE 1 once the winning streak is broken. So for example if I enjoy a winning streak of 4 in a row. That would represent 3 rolling parlay wins. See you all overthere from tomorrow, cheers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    As of now this thread a is defunct no more. From tomorrow Both stages of the parlay will be layed and recorded on the Rolling parlays for the Zone thread. So everyone can see where I currently stand. And where im going...

    When im in STAGE 1 of the parlay this will be made clear at the top of the post..and when im in STAGE 2. That will be noted also at the top of the post. Because I practice ROLLING PARLAYS. As long as I am winning I will continuously be in STAGE 2.

    I will only revert back to STAGE 1 once the winning streak is broken. So for example if I enjoy a winning streak of 4 in a row. That would represent 3 rolling parlay wins. See you all overthere from tomorrow, cheers...
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 10:43 AM ET #648

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    111-56. Who else does this at this price range?  If you just play these flat you do fine without parlays or adjusting units up or down. Thread is not a dud so far to me. Gotta give credit to the picks even if you don't like the wagering strategy.

    You can play this for years and I will tell you exactly where you will be most of the time: at around 1000 units.
    Your record reflects your average odds of 1.5 and the picks produce exactly the some results as any other random picks.

    Failure to realise this will surely not bring you in positive direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    111-56. Who else does this at this price range?  If you just play these flat you do fine without parlays or adjusting units up or down. Thread is not a dud so far to me. Gotta give credit to the picks even if you don't like the wagering strategy.

    You can play this for years and I will tell you exactly where you will be most of the time: at around 1000 units.
    Your record reflects your average odds of 1.5 and the picks produce exactly the some results as any other random picks.

    Failure to realise this will surely not bring you in positive direction.

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