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    My tennis strategy THE ZONE.

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 5:37 PM ET #276

    Quote Originally Posted by DogHouse:

    For using a local, i have many choices... more than the average States side. I hope the New Jersey legislation comes to pass as indicated. That would open up the flood gates right in my backyard... literally. I do have the Dongfeng, Shenzhen, and Malaysian opens.I also have just a very large football market in which to work. I understand its small in comparison, but I will take having all the majors.Thanks again gents!
    Dog im happy New Jersey are doing the right thing. If you have the right to bare arms in the States..You sure as hell should have the right to bet where and on what you like. Thats what stopped me moving to the States a few years ago. When I was told about your ridiculous gambling laws.

    If you had a free hand to truly follow all my picks, you would do very well in the coming years. Especially if you parlay the bets like I do. Thats where the real profit is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogHouse:

    For using a local, i have many choices... more than the average States side. I hope the New Jersey legislation comes to pass as indicated. That would open up the flood gates right in my backyard... literally. I do have the Dongfeng, Shenzhen, and Malaysian opens.I also have just a very large football market in which to work. I understand its small in comparison, but I will take having all the majors.Thanks again gents!
    Dog im happy New Jersey are doing the right thing. If you have the right to bare arms in the States..You sure as hell should have the right to bet where and on what you like. Thats what stopped me moving to the States a few years ago. When I was told about your ridiculous gambling laws.

    If you had a free hand to truly follow all my picks, you would do very well in the coming years. Especially if you parlay the bets like I do. Thats where the real profit is.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 6:14 PM ET #277

    I parlay most if not all my tennis plays. I wish i had open parlays... but alas.
    I do parlay most WTA matches since that is where i am most comfortable. I tend to stick to 2 to 4 matches in them... usually your picks are one of them.
    So at this point im using what i can. Not true to your zone strategy but slightly modified to what i have to work with. Thanks again and much success to us all
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    I parlay most if not all my tennis plays. I wish i had open parlays... but alas.
    I do parlay most WTA matches since that is where i am most comfortable. I tend to stick to 2 to 4 matches in them... usually your picks are one of them.
    So at this point im using what i can. Not true to your zone strategy but slightly modified to what i have to work with. Thanks again and much success to us all
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 6:28 PM ET #278

    Sentinel, forgive me but I have only seen you post 1 parly (yesterday), you mostly post single bets. Is there another location that you are posting the Parlays that we should be checking?
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    Sentinel, forgive me but I have only seen you post 1 parly (yesterday), you mostly post single bets. Is there another location that you are posting the Parlays that we should be checking?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2014 - 10:10 PM ET #279

    sentinel3, do you think you could post your pick earlier, some of them by the time you post them, the match has already started or start 5min after...so by the time I see your pick Its too late.

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    sentinel3, do you think you could post your pick earlier, some of them by the time you post them, the match has already started or start 5min after...so by the time I see your pick Its too late.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 12:17 AM ET #280

    Betting larger and larger after losses is chasing not money management. No reputable capper in existence would ever subscribe to this approach. Simple stats will show there is a 100% chance that you will go bankrupt eventually

    If you hit around 70% at around 1.4 odds then why not flat bet?
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    Betting larger and larger after losses is chasing not money management. No reputable capper in existence would ever subscribe to this approach. Simple stats will show there is a 100% chance that you will go bankrupt eventually

    If you hit around 70% at around 1.4 odds then why not flat bet?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 1:05 AM ET #281

    Quote Originally Posted by p1edp1pper:

    Sentinel, forgive me but I have only seen you post 1 parly (yesterday), you mostly post single bets. Is there another location that you are posting the Parlays that we should be checking?
    The parlays are done rolling fashsion normally piper. So all my picks on here are rolled over three times. Do you understand what I mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by p1edp1pper:

    Sentinel, forgive me but I have only seen you post 1 parly (yesterday), you mostly post single bets. Is there another location that you are posting the Parlays that we should be checking?
    The parlays are done rolling fashsion normally piper. So all my picks on here are rolled over three times. Do you understand what I mean?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 1:08 AM ET #282

    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:

    sentinel3, do you think you c ould post your pick earlier, some of them by the time you post them, the match has already started or start 5min after...so by the time I see your pick Its too late.
    I will try, sometimes im waiting for the results of another match before I place my next bet. Everything is considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:

    sentinel3, do you think you c ould post your pick earlier, some of them by the time you post them, the match has already started or start 5min after...so by the time I see your pick Its too late.
    I will try, sometimes im waiting for the results of another match before I place my next bet. Everything is considered.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 1:16 AM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Betting larger and larger after losses is chasing not money management. No reputable capper in existence would ever subscribe to this approach. Simple stats will show there is a 100% chance that you will go bankrupt eventuallyIf you hit around 70% at around 1.4 odds then why not flat bet?
    You can stake however you wish for the ZONE. The reason I use a slight marti is FASTER REFOVERY. And something only time will show. Losing streaks beyond 5 are very rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Betting larger and larger after losses is chasing not money management. No reputable capper in existence would ever subscribe to this approach. Simple stats will show there is a 100% chance that you will go bankrupt eventuallyIf you hit around 70% at around 1.4 odds then why not flat bet?
    You can stake however you wish for the ZONE. The reason I use a slight marti is FASTER REFOVERY. And something only time will show. Losing streaks beyond 5 are very rare.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 1:34 AM ET #284

    BANKROLL 1067.14 units

    KENITRA CHALLENGER

    Pick number 076-A.Ramos VS L.Pouille

    A.Ramos to win @1.44--Stake 3 units

    WIN/LOSS SUMMARY 57--18

    STRIKERATE 76%
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    BANKROLL 1067.14 units

    KENITRA CHALLENGER

    Pick number 076-A.Ramos VS L.Pouille

    A.Ramos to win @1.44--Stake 3 units

    WIN/LOSS SUMMARY 57--18

    STRIKERATE 76%
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 2:22 AM ET #285

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Betting larger and larger after losses is chasing not money management. No reputable capper in existence would ever subscribe to this approach. Simple stats will show there is a 100% chance that you will go bankrupt eventuallyIf you hit around 70% at around 1.4 odds then why not flat bet?
    There is no chance I will go bankrupt. And heres why. All the negatives on this forum think theyve seen it all. The problem is they havent. Sports cappers stateside are treated like gods if they can consistently hit a strikerate of around 57% which is 4.6% above break even point of 52.4% on the spread.

    I average 9% above break even point for the ZONE. And a consistent 70% plus is considered IMPOSSIBLE to maintain in the long run. But its the reality for this strategy. Another thing few people understand about money management, is BET SIZE in relation to your bankroll. All the negs cry but geez ur gonna go bankrupt if you dont flat bet.

    Those same people are prepared to risk upwards of 10% of their roll on a single wager. On a method they have no history with. Im starting at 0.5% of my bankroll. Do they even think about this. At my lowest level im risking 0.33% of my roll. Lets say I hit my most common LONG LOSING STREAK (THREE MATCHES). By the time I reach that fourth bet im risking 2% of my roll. These critiques are starting on 5% plus of their roll.

    Its a no brainer who will destroy their roll faster. Because they only need a losing streak of 9 or 10 and half their roll is gone.

    Im going to keep saying this, what makes THE ZONE one of the greatest is not the greatest strategies of alltime. IS THE RARITY OF LOSING STREAKS BEYOND ##FIVE##. No capper alive or dead can match the zone for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    Betting larger and larger after losses is chasing not money management. No reputable capper in existence would ever subscribe to this approach. Simple stats will show there is a 100% chance that you will go bankrupt eventuallyIf you hit around 70% at around 1.4 odds then why not flat bet?
    There is no chance I will go bankrupt. And heres why. All the negatives on this forum think theyve seen it all. The problem is they havent. Sports cappers stateside are treated like gods if they can consistently hit a strikerate of around 57% which is 4.6% above break even point of 52.4% on the spread.

    I average 9% above break even point for the ZONE. And a consistent 70% plus is considered IMPOSSIBLE to maintain in the long run. But its the reality for this strategy. Another thing few people understand about money management, is BET SIZE in relation to your bankroll. All the negs cry but geez ur gonna go bankrupt if you dont flat bet.

    Those same people are prepared to risk upwards of 10% of their roll on a single wager. On a method they have no history with. Im starting at 0.5% of my bankroll. Do they even think about this. At my lowest level im risking 0.33% of my roll. Lets say I hit my most common LONG LOSING STREAK (THREE MATCHES). By the time I reach that fourth bet im risking 2% of my roll. These critiques are starting on 5% plus of their roll.

    Its a no brainer who will destroy their roll faster. Because they only need a losing streak of 9 or 10 and half their roll is gone.

    Im going to keep saying this, what makes THE ZONE one of the greatest is not the greatest strategies of alltime. IS THE RARITY OF LOSING STREAKS BEYOND ##FIVE##. No capper alive or dead can match the zone for this.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 2:30 AM ET #286

    Hey do you have another pick for parlay? Thanks
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    Hey do you have another pick for parlay? Thanks
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 2:38 AM ET #287

    Quote Originally Posted by astari:

    Hey do you have another pick for parlay? Thanks

    Morning Astari, Ramos is my man for the first go today. Theres nothing I like in the main Asian tournaments. Its qtr finals where I dont like betting most of the time.

    So Ramos for now for the Kenitra challenger. And I will have another play later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astari:

    Hey do you have another pick for parlay? Thanks

    Morning Astari, Ramos is my man for the first go today. Theres nothing I like in the main Asian tournaments. Its qtr finals where I dont like betting most of the time.

    So Ramos for now for the Kenitra challenger. And I will have another play later.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 3:03 AM ET #288

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    There is no chance I will go bankrupt. And heres why. All the negatives on this forum think theyve seen it all. The problem is they havent. Sports cappers stateside are treated like gods if they can consistently hit a strikerate of around 57% which is 4.6% above break even point of 52.4% on the spread.

    I average 9% above break even point for the ZONE. And a consistent 70% plus is considered IMPOSSIBLE to maintain in the long run. But its the reality for this strategy. Another thing few people understand about money management, is BET SIZE in relation to your bankroll. All the negs cry but geez ur gonna go bankrupt if you dont flat bet.

    Those same people are prepared to risk upwards of 10% of their roll on a single wager. On a method they have no history with. Im starting at 0.5% of my bankroll. Do they even think about this. At my lowest level im risking 0.33% of my roll. Lets say I hit my most common LONG LOSING STREAK (THREE MATCHES). By the time I reach that fourth bet im risking 2% of my roll. These critiques are starting on 5% plus of their roll.

    Its a no brainer who will destroy their roll faster. Because they only need a losing streak of 9 or 10 and half their roll is gone.

    Im going to keep saying this, what makes THE ZONE one of the greatest is not the greatest strategies of alltime. IS THE RARITY OF LOSING STREAKS BEYOND ##FIVE##. No capper alive or dead can match the zone for this.

    Good writeup but other then your Critiquie I am not familiar with the Zone or any publication. That said Tennis has a hight juice lay and you have to be better then 9% above the break even pt to turn a profit when you are talking 7% on flat -110 spead. picking 52.7% is against the spread with flat juice not laying between 1.5-1.8 odds. That said I wish you the best of luck and we can agree tennis is fairly easy to win a high percentage. I wish you luck what is your ROE?? THe percentages of your roll don't seem to show a very large margin of profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    There is no chance I will go bankrupt. And heres why. All the negatives on this forum think theyve seen it all. The problem is they havent. Sports cappers stateside are treated like gods if they can consistently hit a strikerate of around 57% which is 4.6% above break even point of 52.4% on the spread.

    I average 9% above break even point for the ZONE. And a consistent 70% plus is considered IMPOSSIBLE to maintain in the long run. But its the reality for this strategy. Another thing few people understand about money management, is BET SIZE in relation to your bankroll. All the negs cry but geez ur gonna go bankrupt if you dont flat bet.

    Those same people are prepared to risk upwards of 10% of their roll on a single wager. On a method they have no history with. Im starting at 0.5% of my bankroll. Do they even think about this. At my lowest level im risking 0.33% of my roll. Lets say I hit my most common LONG LOSING STREAK (THREE MATCHES). By the time I reach that fourth bet im risking 2% of my roll. These critiques are starting on 5% plus of their roll.

    Its a no brainer who will destroy their roll faster. Because they only need a losing streak of 9 or 10 and half their roll is gone.

    Im going to keep saying this, what makes THE ZONE one of the greatest is not the greatest strategies of alltime. IS THE RARITY OF LOSING STREAKS BEYOND ##FIVE##. No capper alive or dead can match the zone for this.

    Good writeup but other then your Critiquie I am not familiar with the Zone or any publication. That said Tennis has a hight juice lay and you have to be better then 9% above the break even pt to turn a profit when you are talking 7% on flat -110 spead. picking 52.7% is against the spread with flat juice not laying between 1.5-1.8 odds. That said I wish you the best of luck and we can agree tennis is fairly easy to win a high percentage. I wish you luck what is your ROE?? THe percentages of your roll don't seem to show a very large margin of profit.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 3:04 AM ET #289

    Hey Sentinel, I hope you don't get dissuaded from posting because of naysayers and generally just negative people. Keep doing your thing and karma will reward you. 
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    Hey Sentinel, I hope you don't get dissuaded from posting because of naysayers and generally just negative people. Keep doing your thing and karma will reward you. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 3:05 AM ET #290

    ROE should be ROI my apologies. 

    FYI - not a hater. Its good to see someone else that likes to play challengers.
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    ROE should be ROI my apologies. 

    FYI - not a hater. Its good to see someone else that likes to play challengers.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 3:14 AM ET #291

    I'm not hating I'm presenting a stats view that contradicts your claim of money management. And your answer provides nothing quantitative to dispute it. BOL but it's not the right approach. If it was why are you the only one who does it even amongst established cappers?
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    I'm not hating I'm presenting a stats view that contradicts your claim of money management. And your answer provides nothing quantitative to dispute it. BOL but it's not the right approach. If it was why are you the only one who does it even amongst established cappers?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 3:30 AM ET #292

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    I will try, sometimes im waiting for the results of another match before I place my next bet. Everything is considered.

    Thanks, just the fact that you take the time to post your picks means a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    I will try, sometimes im waiting for the results of another match before I place my next bet. Everything is considered.

    Thanks, just the fact that you take the time to post your picks means a lot

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 3:32 AM ET #293

    By the way, what happened to -HIngis/Pennetta VS Pavlyuchenkova/Safarova ? my sports bet shows postponed for couple of days now...
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    By the way, what happened to -HIngis/Pennetta VS Pavlyuchenkova/Safarova ? my sports bet shows postponed for couple of days now...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 4:04 AM ET #294

    Quote Originally Posted by Enjoi:

    Hey Sentinel, I hope you don't get dissuaded from posting because of naysayers and generally just negative people. Keep doing your thing and karma will reward you.

    No chance Enjoi...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enjoi:

    Hey Sentinel, I hope you don't get dissuaded from posting because of naysayers and generally just negative people. Keep doing your thing and karma will reward you.

    No chance Enjoi...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 4:06 AM ET #295

    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    I will try, sometimes im waiting for the results of another match before I place my next bet. Everything is considered.

    Thanks, just the fact that you take the time to post your picks means a lot
    Its a pleasure, yes that Hingis/Pennetta match was a walkover so I voided it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:

    I will try, sometimes im waiting for the results of another match before I place my next bet. Everything is considered.

    Thanks, just the fact that you take the time to post your picks means a lot
    Its a pleasure, yes that Hingis/Pennetta match was a walkover so I voided it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 4:18 AM ET #296

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    I'm not hating I'm presenting a stats view that contradicts your claim of money management. And your answer provides nothing quantitative to dispute it. BOL but it's not the right approach. If it was why are you the only one who does it even amongst established cappers?
    Because im the only one who has a strategy STRONG ENOUGH to do it. How long this will take to register, I dont know. But the light bulb moment will come to most over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    I'm not hating I'm presenting a stats view that contradicts your claim of money management. And your answer provides nothing quantitative to dispute it. BOL but it's not the right approach. If it was why are you the only one who does it even amongst established cappers?
    Because im the only one who has a strategy STRONG ENOUGH to do it. How long this will take to register, I dont know. But the light bulb moment will come to most over time.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 7:38 AM ET #297

    How do you know what other people are betting? And that makes no difference to your play, or it shouldn't.

    And I've already seen you go from 3 unit bets to 60 unit bets in this thread alone. You didn't answer the question: what would your next bet have been if it had lost? You've already gone up a factor of twenty. If you don't believe that is a chase then I am not hating I am truly helping you. You offer not a single quantitative word in any of your arguments just undefined terms like rare.

    I'm not bashing your bets, just your proclaimed special system which is a sham. Good luck going forward
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    How do you know what other people are betting? And that makes no difference to your play, or it shouldn't.

    And I've already seen you go from 3 unit bets to 60 unit bets in this thread alone. You didn't answer the question: what would your next bet have been if it had lost? You've already gone up a factor of twenty. If you don't believe that is a chase then I am not hating I am truly helping you. You offer not a single quantitative word in any of your arguments just undefined terms like rare.

    I'm not bashing your bets, just your proclaimed special system which is a sham. Good luck going forward
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 8:12 AM ET #298

    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    How do you know what other people are betting? And that makes no difference to your play, or it shouldn't.And I've already seen you go from 3 unit bets to 60 unit bets in this thread alone. You didn't answer the question: what would your next bet have been if it had lost? You've already gone up a factor of twenty. If you don't believe that is a chase then I am not hating I am truly helping you. You offer not a single quantitative word in any of your arguments just undefined terms like rare.I'm not bashing your bets, just your proclaimed special system which is a sham. Good luck going forward
    Theres no sham about it, the staking level had issues at the beginning because I dont bet straights. Im strictly a parlay player. I came in too high and at the advice of a friend who bets straights adjusted myself down. If anybody wants to play on that to try and discredit me thats their business. These same people have nothing better to offer, so they dont even get on the grid.The bottom line is you CANNOT FAKE a 75% strikerate. You cant buy it either. Someone either has a strategy good enough to hit those numbers or they dont.

    THE ONLY REASON Im presenting it in straight form is for proofing purposes. This has to be digested by ALL.

    For the purpose of anwsering your question the marti isnt into oblivion. It has a ceiling limit of 40 units from where I start presently. So for example this would be how I would stake 6 bets from my lowest point.

    3-5-10-20-40-40. Do you understand? In the RARE EVENT Im pushed to a 5th consecutive loss. I would level out at 4% of my roll. The saving on the previous losses makes this ABSOLUTELY SUPERIOR money management to someone just flat betting 40 units across the board. In their case they would have lost 200 units compared to my 78. Plus not knowing where their streak might end they would start to get cold feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

    How do you know what other people are betting? And that makes no difference to your play, or it shouldn't.And I've already seen you go from 3 unit bets to 60 unit bets in this thread alone. You didn't answer the question: what would your next bet have been if it had lost? You've already gone up a factor of twenty. If you don't believe that is a chase then I am not hating I am truly helping you. You offer not a single quantitative word in any of your arguments just undefined terms like rare.I'm not bashing your bets, just your proclaimed special system which is a sham. Good luck going forward
    Theres no sham about it, the staking level had issues at the beginning because I dont bet straights. Im strictly a parlay player. I came in too high and at the advice of a friend who bets straights adjusted myself down. If anybody wants to play on that to try and discredit me thats their business. These same people have nothing better to offer, so they dont even get on the grid.The bottom line is you CANNOT FAKE a 75% strikerate. You cant buy it either. Someone either has a strategy good enough to hit those numbers or they dont.

    THE ONLY REASON Im presenting it in straight form is for proofing purposes. This has to be digested by ALL.

    For the purpose of anwsering your question the marti isnt into oblivion. It has a ceiling limit of 40 units from where I start presently. So for example this would be how I would stake 6 bets from my lowest point.

    3-5-10-20-40-40. Do you understand? In the RARE EVENT Im pushed to a 5th consecutive loss. I would level out at 4% of my roll. The saving on the previous losses makes this ABSOLUTELY SUPERIOR money management to someone just flat betting 40 units across the board. In their case they would have lost 200 units compared to my 78. Plus not knowing where their streak might end they would start to get cold feet.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2014 - 1:14 PM ET #299

    Man, I don't think he wants to win!
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    Man, I don't think he wants to win!
     
     
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    WOW, Sentinel, great selection, watching this match, I have no more diapers for my piss!  GREAT SELECTION!

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    WOW, Sentinel, great selection, watching this match, I have no more diapers for my piss!  GREAT SELECTION!

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