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    jtmoney87
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 2:01 PM ET #1

    Ok this is something that i have tried once before and i turned $100 into $404.41(not posted). If my math is correct, anyway it was around that figure.  I dont know if it happened to be beginners luck or if i stumbled upon something, but i am going to give it another shot. 

    Hopefully i can expain this where it will make sense

     

    Basically divide the starting $100 into ten $10 wagers

    now after the ten $10 wagers are made which ever wagers were won that $10 wager becomes a $10 + whatever the the payout for that wager was

    A $10 wager at -110 has a payout of $9.09 so the wager would now become $19.09

    A bet that result is a loss has no further action

    REMINDER

    All ten of the initial $10 wagers will be made before any of the next total amounts that will be wagered

    Same with the future rounds

    For Example:

    Lets say after the first round of $10 wagers our record is 6-4. 

    Basically now the whole strategy is started over with 6 wagers that are going to be the $10 wager plus whatever the payout was

    So now we would have six wagers of $19.09 (initial bet being -110) with a payout of $17.35

    then the next round of wagers at -110 would be $36.44 with a payout of $33.14

    The next round at -110 would be $69.57 with a payout of $63.25

    Pending on how much of a risk you are willing to take you can keep going and press your luck, or you can take your winnings and run and start this over

    Another side note

    All wagers will be a risk amount not a win amount so you will never exceed your initial $100

     

     

    I hope this makes sense

     

     

     

    Good Idea

    Bad Idea or

    A greasy dumpster fire

    Please if there are any questions ask and i will try to clearify, i will be starting this in a few days just wanted to hear what you guys think, or if there is anyway this can be tweaked let me know!!

     

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    Ok this is something that i have tried once before and i turned $100 into $404.41(not posted). If my math is correct, anyway it was around that figure.  I dont know if it happened to be beginners luck or if i stumbled upon something, but i am going to give it another shot. 

    Hopefully i can expain this where it will make sense

     

    Basically divide the starting $100 into ten $10 wagers

    now after the ten $10 wagers are made which ever wagers were won that $10 wager becomes a $10 + whatever the the payout for that wager was

    A $10 wager at -110 has a payout of $9.09 so the wager would now become $19.09

    A bet that result is a loss has no further action

    REMINDER

    All ten of the initial $10 wagers will be made before any of the next total amounts that will be wagered

    Same with the future rounds

    For Example:

    Lets say after the first round of $10 wagers our record is 6-4. 

    Basically now the whole strategy is started over with 6 wagers that are going to be the $10 wager plus whatever the payout was

    So now we would have six wagers of $19.09 (initial bet being -110) with a payout of $17.35

    then the next round of wagers at -110 would be $36.44 with a payout of $33.14

    The next round at -110 would be $69.57 with a payout of $63.25

    Pending on how much of a risk you are willing to take you can keep going and press your luck, or you can take your winnings and run and start this over

    Another side note

    All wagers will be a risk amount not a win amount so you will never exceed your initial $100

     

     

    I hope this makes sense

     

     

     

    Good Idea

    Bad Idea or

    A greasy dumpster fire

    Please if there are any questions ask and i will try to clearify, i will be starting this in a few days just wanted to hear what you guys think, or if there is anyway this can be tweaked let me know!!

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 2:41 PM ET #2

    Intriguing. A potential drawback might be finding 10 games of value everyday unless you can spread out the 10 bets over a couple of days if your book releases lines a day early. Might be easier to find 5 games a $10 per, or go 5 games at $20

    I think this experiment has merit and I would like to give it a whirl. Thanks for sharing this.
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    Intriguing. A potential drawback might be finding 10 games of value everyday unless you can spread out the 10 bets over a couple of days if your book releases lines a day early. Might be easier to find 5 games a $10 per, or go 5 games at $20

    I think this experiment has merit and I would like to give it a whirl. Thanks for sharing this.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 2:48 PM ET #3

    Sareesataka

    The wagers do not have to be on the same day. I think forcing action in this stategy wouldnt get us very far

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    Sareesataka

    The wagers do not have to be on the same day. I think forcing action in this stategy wouldnt get us very far

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 2:54 PM ET #4

    And of course you do not have to start with $100. And as you pointed out you dont have to use 10 wagers either
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    And of course you do not have to start with $100. And as you pointed out you dont have to use 10 wagers either
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 3:09 PM ET #5

    The first time I did this i had three wagers remaining

    $74.72

    $69.57

    $69.57

    So I figured that i would continue since if i lost one of the wagers that i would stop and i would still be up

    So i wagered the $74.72 and I won so that turned into $142.27 so hitting that one changed my thinking

    now if i lose both of my remaining wagers i would still be up so i bet the remaining two wagers i had I won one and lost one so now i had two wagers remaining

    $142.27

    $132.82

    so i said what the heck ill let this roll i wagered the $142.27 and won turning that into $271.59

    so i had $271.59 and $132.82 which is where i stopped but im ready to try my luck again

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    The first time I did this i had three wagers remaining

    $74.72

    $69.57

    $69.57

    So I figured that i would continue since if i lost one of the wagers that i would stop and i would still be up

    So i wagered the $74.72 and I won so that turned into $142.27 so hitting that one changed my thinking

    now if i lose both of my remaining wagers i would still be up so i bet the remaining two wagers i had I won one and lost one so now i had two wagers remaining

    $142.27

    $132.82

    so i said what the heck ill let this roll i wagered the $142.27 and won turning that into $271.59

    so i had $271.59 and $132.82 which is where i stopped but im ready to try my luck again

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 3:19 PM ET #6

    This is certainly interesting jt

    I would like to see an addition to this where you periodically take some of your profits. In your initial trial you turned $100 into $400.  Consider banking $200 (your initial stake and and 100% profit). You could continue the strategy with the other $200 until you hit $400 again and bank another $200.


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    This is certainly interesting jt

    I would like to see an addition to this where you periodically take some of your profits. In your initial trial you turned $100 into $400.  Consider banking $200 (your initial stake and and 100% profit). You could continue the strategy with the other $200 until you hit $400 again and bank another $200.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 4:18 PM ET #7

    It looks great when you hit 60% in the first round and beyond.  Say you hit 40% first round, not so good then....
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    It looks great when you hit 60% in the first round and beyond.  Say you hit 40% first round, not so good then....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2011 - 5:33 PM ET #8

    Interesting variation of "chipping up" when you are on a winning run,or more like parlaying after each win.   I like this approach you've come up with as long as you are picking say 57%+ winners, but I would be a little more conservative and take some winnings off the table maybe after round 2?  I don't know, but I agree with dufresne, so that if you have a bad run in round 3 or later, at least you don't crash and burn the whole enchilada.  Hope you will post here if you decide to go thru with it. BOL
                                                   
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    Interesting variation of "chipping up" when you are on a winning run,or more like parlaying after each win.   I like this approach you've come up with as long as you are picking say 57%+ winners, but I would be a little more conservative and take some winnings off the table maybe after round 2?  I don't know, but I agree with dufresne, so that if you have a bad run in round 3 or later, at least you don't crash and burn the whole enchilada.  Hope you will post here if you decide to go thru with it. BOL
                                                   
     
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    Thank You everyone for your input you have all made valid points.   Also as what happened in the first time that i had tried this one win or loss can completely change the whole strategy, so I think that as you are in the middle of a round of wagers adjustments will be made so you dont crash and burn

    Ill use these as examples (using whole numbers to make it easy)

    case 1

    only 3 bets remaining at round 3  $35 x 3 = $105 i think in this case it would be smart to just start over with the original ten $10 wagers

    case 2

    only 4 wagers remaining at round 3 $35 x 4 = $140

    say you win wager 1  now that $35 is $70 you now have 3 more $35 wagers but lose the next two wagers now you have $70 and $35. Once again i think that you would have to stop here and start over with the original $10 wagers

    IMPORTANT!!!

    I Think in the later rounds is crucial that you only have wagers on one game at a time. So if you do need to stop in the middle of a round you are not tied up

     

    I dont know Im ready to give this another shot though so maybe tomorrow i will get this started

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    Thank You everyone for your input you have all made valid points.   Also as what happened in the first time that i had tried this one win or loss can completely change the whole strategy, so I think that as you are in the middle of a round of wagers adjustments will be made so you dont crash and burn

    Ill use these as examples (using whole numbers to make it easy)

    case 1

    only 3 bets remaining at round 3  $35 x 3 = $105 i think in this case it would be smart to just start over with the original ten $10 wagers

    case 2

    only 4 wagers remaining at round 3 $35 x 4 = $140

    say you win wager 1  now that $35 is $70 you now have 3 more $35 wagers but lose the next two wagers now you have $70 and $35. Once again i think that you would have to stop here and start over with the original $10 wagers

    IMPORTANT!!!

    I Think in the later rounds is crucial that you only have wagers on one game at a time. So if you do need to stop in the middle of a round you are not tied up

     

    I dont know Im ready to give this another shot though so maybe tomorrow i will get this started

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2011 - 2:33 PM ET #10

    Round 1 - 10 Wagers Remaining

    Three Wagers today hope I get started with a winning day!!

    Ohio State Buckeyes -3  $10.00 to win $9.09

    Portland Trailblazers vs Dallas Mavericks Under 92 1st Half $10.00 to win $9.09

    Atlanta Hawks vs Sacramento Kings Under 190.5 $10.00 to win $9.09

     

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    Round 1 - 10 Wagers Remaining

    Three Wagers today hope I get started with a winning day!!

    Ohio State Buckeyes -3  $10.00 to win $9.09

    Portland Trailblazers vs Dallas Mavericks Under 92 1st Half $10.00 to win $9.09

    Atlanta Hawks vs Sacramento Kings Under 190.5 $10.00 to win $9.09

     

     
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    Im willing to give it a shot but i have to get a little more familiar with it first. Nice work.
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    Im willing to give it a shot but i have to get a little more familiar with it first. Nice work.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2011 - 2:02 PM ET #12

    I started my own series yesterday. Just hit 1 of 3...

    Today pick another 3:
    TB vs Pit Over 6
    SA (+2.5) vs Bos
    Tor (+2) vs Cle

    We will see how will go today...
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    I started my own series yesterday. Just hit 1 of 3...

    Today pick another 3:
    TB vs Pit Over 6
    SA (+2.5) vs Bos
    Tor (+2) vs Cle

    We will see how will go today...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2011 - 3:08 PM ET #13

    easties  Its a work in progress

    semaper Good Luck today youll turn it around

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    easties  Its a work in progress

    semaper Good Luck today youll turn it around

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2011 - 3:18 PM ET #14

    Round 1 - 7 Wagers Remaining

    10----19.09

    10---19.09

    10---X

    Had a good start to this yesterday going 2-1 lets keep it going today

     

    Denver Nuggets vs LA Clippers Over 210

    San Antonio Spurs vs Boston Celtics Over 95 1st Half

     

    Good Luck Today everyone lets make some cash

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    Round 1 - 7 Wagers Remaining

    10----19.09

    10---19.09

    10---X

    Had a good start to this yesterday going 2-1 lets keep it going today

     

    Denver Nuggets vs LA Clippers Over 210

    San Antonio Spurs vs Boston Celtics Over 95 1st Half

     

    Good Luck Today everyone lets make some cash

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2011 - 3:23 PM ET #15

    By the way if anyone is going to give this a try i find it very easy to keep track if u put it into a 10x10 table.. i just print mine then fill it out as i go
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    By the way if anyone is going to give this a try i find it very easy to keep track if u put it into a 10x10 table.. i just print mine then fill it out as i go
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 11:46 AM ET #16

    semaper  Great day yesterday 3-0

    I was 1-1 yesterday.. I forgot to mention that both of the wagers were -110 $10 to win $9.09

     

    Round 1 - 5 Wagers Remaining

    10----19.09

    10---19.09

    10---X

    10---19.09

    10---X

    I will be back in a few hours to post plays for today.. Best of luck to everyone

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    semaper  Great day yesterday 3-0

    I was 1-1 yesterday.. I forgot to mention that both of the wagers were -110 $10 to win $9.09

     

    Round 1 - 5 Wagers Remaining

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    10---19.09

    10---X

    10---19.09

    10---X

    I will be back in a few hours to post plays for today.. Best of luck to everyone

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 2:50 PM ET #17

    NCAAF Middle Tennessee State -2 $10 to win $9.09

    Sacramento Kings +4.5 $10 to win $9.09

    Oklahoma City Thunder vs Dallas Mavericks Over 192 $10 to win $9.09

    BOL Everyone

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    NCAAF Middle Tennessee State -2 $10 to win $9.09

    Sacramento Kings +4.5 $10 to win $9.09

    Oklahoma City Thunder vs Dallas Mavericks Over 192 $10 to win $9.09

    BOL Everyone

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 3:11 PM ET #18

    Thanks, JT!

    However, I did a mistake putting my SA bet and the pick -2 handicap so the bet was push. 

    So, the other 2 was good ones.

    Then, I have 5 Round 1 wagers remaining like you. I will go take all today since I have a lot of confidence in them:

    Edm over NYI
    Edm vs NYI under 5.5
    LAK over Nas
    SJ over Buf
    OC (-2) vs Dal

    Tomorrow I will try to do a summary of the my Round 1 wagers, including the profits of the winnings wagers, since that they will be the round 2 wagers amounts.


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    Thanks, JT!

    However, I did a mistake putting my SA bet and the pick -2 handicap so the bet was push. 

    So, the other 2 was good ones.

    Then, I have 5 Round 1 wagers remaining like you. I will go take all today since I have a lot of confidence in them:

    Edm over NYI
    Edm vs NYI under 5.5
    LAK over Nas
    SJ over Buf
    OC (-2) vs Dal

    Tomorrow I will try to do a summary of the my Round 1 wagers, including the profits of the winnings wagers, since that they will be the round 2 wagers amounts.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 11:51 AM ET #19

    Good Luck in Round 2 Semaper, looks like you will have 6 wagers to work with

    Yesterday went pretty well going 2-1, but today is going to be a HUGE day for me.  I need a big day!!  After today i will have either 5,6,or 7 wagers in round 2

    Lets nail these last 2!!

    Round 1 - 2 Wagers Remaining

    10----19.09

    10---19.09

    10---X

    10---19.09

    10---X

    10----19.09

    10---19.09

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    Good Luck in Round 2 Semaper, looks like you will have 6 wagers to work with

    Yesterday went pretty well going 2-1, but today is going to be a HUGE day for me.  I need a big day!!  After today i will have either 5,6,or 7 wagers in round 2

    Lets nail these last 2!!

    Round 1 - 2 Wagers Remaining

    10----19.09

    10---19.09

    10---X

    10---19.09

    10---X

    10----19.09

    10---19.09

    10---X

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 1:18 PM ET #20

    Thanks JT!

    What would be your recommendation about the assignments bets at round 2?.

    Let me explain: All your round 1 wagers had 1.909 line, so the amounts for all your round 2 wagers will be the same (19.09). So, in my case, the bets lines are differents, then my round 2 wagers mounts will be differents (between 17.09 - 20.4).

    So, what criteria I must to follow in order to choose my round 2 wager? The lowest line would have the biggest bet? Confidence in the pick? Randomly?

    What do you think about that? 

    Good luck in your remaining round 1 wagers!!

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    Thanks JT!

    What would be your recommendation about the assignments bets at round 2?.

    Let me explain: All your round 1 wagers had 1.909 line, so the amounts for all your round 2 wagers will be the same (19.09). So, in my case, the bets lines are differents, then my round 2 wagers mounts will be differents (between 17.09 - 20.4).

    So, what criteria I must to follow in order to choose my round 2 wager? The lowest line would have the biggest bet? Confidence in the pick? Randomly?

    What do you think about that? 

    Good luck in your remaining round 1 wagers!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 1:53 PM ET #21

    Thats a pretty good question.. haha

    I think in this case in round 2 i would make wagers based on confidence or even random... Future rounds I may have a little more strategy involved in placing wagers.

    We are kinda learning about  this on the fly

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    Thats a pretty good question.. haha

    I think in this case in round 2 i would make wagers based on confidence or even random... Future rounds I may have a little more strategy involved in placing wagers.

    We are kinda learning about  this on the fly

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 2:25 PM ET #22

    OK these are my final 2 plays for round 1

    Miami Heat vs Milwaukee Bucks Under 92.5 1st Half $10 to win $9.09

    LA Lakers vs New Orleans Hornets Under 96 1st Half $10 to win $9.09

    Need these last two

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    OK these are my final 2 plays for round 1

    Miami Heat vs Milwaukee Bucks Under 92.5 1st Half $10 to win $9.09

    LA Lakers vs New Orleans Hornets Under 96 1st Half $10 to win $9.09

    Need these last two

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 3:20 PM ET #23

    I will be out of town tomorow so i may not be able to post but i will try
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    I will be out of town tomorow so i may not be able to post but i will try
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:14 AM ET #24

    0-2 What a rough night

    The heat were totally different teams from the 1st half to the 2nd unfortunately i was on the wrong side in that first half

    In the Laker game 9 points in the final 49 seconds to send it over in the first half..

    Just one of those days, ill shake tonight off.. i will have Round 2 plays in the morning before i leave town

     

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    0-2 What a rough night

    The heat were totally different teams from the 1st half to the 2nd unfortunately i was on the wrong side in that first half

    In the Laker game 9 points in the final 49 seconds to send it over in the first half..

    Just one of those days, ill shake tonight off.. i will have Round 2 plays in the morning before i leave town

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2011 - 12:21 AM ET #25

    Round 1   5-5  

    Starting Roll: $100

    Roll after Round 1: $95.45

     

    Round 2 - 5 Wagers Remaining

    $19.09

    $19.09

    $19.09

    $19.09

    $19.09

     

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    Round 1   5-5  

    Starting Roll: $100

    Roll after Round 1: $95.45

     

    Round 2 - 5 Wagers Remaining

    $19.09

    $19.09

    $19.09

    $19.09

    $19.09

     

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