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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 11:10 PM ET #26

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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2010 - 2:36 PM ET #27

    I'll do a recap of the games so far and some additions.  Hasn't been going so well so far but last week was a pleasant surprise.  Hope we can grind out some profit.
     
    Recap:  These are all draw plays
    France - Nat - Amiens
                Austrailia - A - N Queenland
                Italy - Serie B - Padova
                Italy - Serie B - Empoli
               Spain Segunda - Huesca
               Spain Segunda - Cordoba
    Ouch - 1 Draw and 5 losses - so far we have - 2.91 Units.  Will tally everything at the end of the plays for Fri-Sun
     
    Additional plays: Sat/Sun -
        
                Austrailia -A - Wellington/Adelaide + 240
                Italy - Serie B - Torino/Siena + 197
     
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    I'll do a recap of the games so far and some additions.  Hasn't been going so well so far but last week was a pleasant surprise.  Hope we can grind out some profit.
     
    Recap:  These are all draw plays
    France - Nat - Amiens
                Austrailia - A - N Queenland
                Italy - Serie B - Padova
                Italy - Serie B - Empoli
               Spain Segunda - Huesca
               Spain Segunda - Cordoba
    Ouch - 1 Draw and 5 losses - so far we have - 2.91 Units.  Will tally everything at the end of the plays for Fri-Sun
     
    Additional plays: Sat/Sun -
        
                Austrailia -A - Wellington/Adelaide + 240
                Italy - Serie B - Torino/Siena + 197
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 3:23 PM ET #28

    Austrailia - A- Wellington  - game winning goal scored in 90th minute

    Italy - Serie B - Torino -

    Fri-Sun Recap:

    2 Wins (draws) - 6 Losses (Non-draws) - gives a total of -1.94 Units for this round of plays.

    Thread total now stands at 5.26 Units

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    Austrailia - A- Wellington  - game winning goal scored in 90th minute

    Italy - Serie B - Torino -

    Fri-Sun Recap:

    2 Wins (draws) - 6 Losses (Non-draws) - gives a total of -1.94 Units for this round of plays.

    Thread total now stands at 5.26 Units

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 12:10 AM ET #29

    I'm not sure if I missed any games this week that would have qualified to play or not - really busy with work.  There are a few games for Saturday that I see but not many to track or play.

    Spain- Segunda - Alcorcon/Elche +207

    Italy - Serie B - Modena/Varese +193

     

     

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    I'm not sure if I missed any games this week that would have qualified to play or not - really busy with work.  There are a few games for Saturday that I see but not many to track or play.

    Spain- Segunda - Alcorcon/Elche +207

    Italy - Serie B - Modena/Varese +193

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 3:38 PM ET #30

    Off to a bad start  - hopefully it will turn around.  The select plays just aren't coming in.  The other plays that I am tracking are at least making some money but I track 20 - 30 games from Fri-Sun.  That is a lot to play over a 2-3 day span.  Have a few more to post ( to draw):

    Spain - Segunda - Salamanca/Rayo Vallecano +218

    Spain - Segunda - Albacete/Barcelona-B +211

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    Off to a bad start  - hopefully it will turn around.  The select plays just aren't coming in.  The other plays that I am tracking are at least making some money but I track 20 - 30 games from Fri-Sun.  That is a lot to play over a 2-3 day span.  Have a few more to post ( to draw):

    Spain - Segunda - Salamanca/Rayo Vallecano +218

    Spain - Segunda - Albacete/Barcelona-B +211

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2010 - 10:51 PM ET #31

    Summary for the weekend

    1 W - Albacete/Barcelona- B for 2.11 Units

    3 L - Salamanca, Modena and Elche for -3 Units

    Weekend Total -0.89 Units

    Thread Total is  + 4.37 Units

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    Summary for the weekend

    1 W - Albacete/Barcelona- B for 2.11 Units

    3 L - Salamanca, Modena and Elche for -3 Units

    Weekend Total -0.89 Units

    Thread Total is  + 4.37 Units

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2010 - 12:42 AM ET #32

    I used to use a free sports betting site (advertisers put up $1 that you can bet with) for tracking purposes.  The owner of the site has the ability to see all the bets made and which ones are most and least profitable.  Anyways, he recently did a radio interview and said that bettors, on average, lost money on every single bet type except one--soccer draws, on which they broke-even.  So if a bunch of casual bettors can break-even, I'm confident someone tracking plays like yourself can squeeze out some profit.

    Regarding the selections, you previously mentioned that betting only certain draws would've netted you 100+ units so far.  Are those results specifically from the "profitable" leagues you've identified?
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    I used to use a free sports betting site (advertisers put up $1 that you can bet with) for tracking purposes.  The owner of the site has the ability to see all the bets made and which ones are most and least profitable.  Anyways, he recently did a radio interview and said that bettors, on average, lost money on every single bet type except one--soccer draws, on which they broke-even.  So if a bunch of casual bettors can break-even, I'm confident someone tracking plays like yourself can squeeze out some profit.

    Regarding the selections, you previously mentioned that betting only certain draws would've netted you 100+ units so far.  Are those results specifically from the "profitable" leagues you've identified?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2010 - 3:37 AM ET #33

    Interesting jimmy...
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2010 - 10:22 AM ET #34

    That is very interesting about soccer draws at least breaking even.  Would definately like to be on the positive side with taking the draw.  I am going to update my tracking when I get some time.  Even though the plays I have posted the last few weeks have been slowly losing.  My overall tracking is showing a slight gain.

    Yes the 100 Units I talked about was from a select few leagues.  One play for today: (for the draw) betting 1 Unit

    Austrailia - A - New Castle/Gold Coast +235

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    That is very interesting about soccer draws at least breaking even.  Would definately like to be on the positive side with taking the draw.  I am going to update my tracking when I get some time.  Even though the plays I have posted the last few weeks have been slowly losing.  My overall tracking is showing a slight gain.

    Yes the 100 Units I talked about was from a select few leagues.  One play for today: (for the draw) betting 1 Unit

    Austrailia - A - New Castle/Gold Coast +235

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 12:17 PM ET #35

    Another loss brings thread total to 3.37 Units.  Not many draws happening in the Ausrtailia A league right now.

    Have tracked games in the UEFA-Europa League with the noted criteria at the begining of the thread and they have not done well.  That is not to say draws don't happen in these soccer matches.

    2  games that I will be tracking are ( I am NOT playing these): 

    AEK Athens/Zenit St. Peter

    Debrecin/Sampdoria

    In the 3-4 weeks that I have posted some draws - all plays have done better than the select ones.  Gotta get an update soon.

    Wonder what Fri-Sun will bring this week - GL

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    Another loss brings thread total to 3.37 Units.  Not many draws happening in the Ausrtailia A league right now.

    Have tracked games in the UEFA-Europa League with the noted criteria at the begining of the thread and they have not done well.  That is not to say draws don't happen in these soccer matches.

    2  games that I will be tracking are ( I am NOT playing these): 

    AEK Athens/Zenit St. Peter

    Debrecin/Sampdoria

    In the 3-4 weeks that I have posted some draws - all plays have done better than the select ones.  Gotta get an update soon.

    Wonder what Fri-Sun will bring this week - GL

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2010 - 1:18 PM ET #36

    you have to stick with certain leagues and follow just them
    i 'm elabroating two systems in draws the last 3.5 months in
    Bundesliga,Ligue 1,Ligue 2,Primera,Serie A,Serie B,Premier League,Greek Superleague
    one of those systems is to bet on the draw when two teams which met have as most common result of the season--in terms of numbers--the draw
    i.e. Team A  5w-8d-3l vs Team B 4w-7d-5l , in this case I notice that these teams end their games more often in draws than any other result,so I ll bet the draw to come

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    you have to stick with certain leagues and follow just them
    i 'm elabroating two systems in draws the last 3.5 months in
    Bundesliga,Ligue 1,Ligue 2,Primera,Serie A,Serie B,Premier League,Greek Superleague
    one of those systems is to bet on the draw when two teams which met have as most common result of the season--in terms of numbers--the draw
    i.e. Team A  5w-8d-3l vs Team B 4w-7d-5l , in this case I notice that these teams end their games more often in draws than any other result,so I ll bet the draw to come

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomius:

    you have to stick with certain leagues and follow just them
    i 'm elabroating two systems in draws the last 3.5 months in
    Bundesliga,Ligue 1,Ligue 2,Primera,Serie A,Serie B,Premier League,Greek Superleague
    one of those systems is to bet on the draw when two teams which met have as most common result of the season--in terms of numbers--the draw
    i.e. Team A  5w-8d-3l vs Team B 4w-7d-5l , in this case I notice that these teams end their games more often in draws than any other result,so I ll bet the draw to come

    Like it - has it been profitable for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomius:

    you have to stick with certain leagues and follow just them
    i 'm elabroating two systems in draws the last 3.5 months in
    Bundesliga,Ligue 1,Ligue 2,Primera,Serie A,Serie B,Premier League,Greek Superleague
    one of those systems is to bet on the draw when two teams which met have as most common result of the season--in terms of numbers--the draw
    i.e. Team A  5w-8d-3l vs Team B 4w-7d-5l , in this case I notice that these teams end their games more often in draws than any other result,so I ll bet the draw to come

    Like it - has it been profitable for you?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2010 - 5:12 PM ET #38

    Couple plays to post for Saturday

    Spain - Segunda - Elche/Rayo Vallecano +211

    Spain - Segunda - Gimnastic/Huelva  +210

    For the draw - 1 Unit each

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    Couple plays to post for Saturday

    Spain - Segunda - Elche/Rayo Vallecano +211

    Spain - Segunda - Gimnastic/Huelva  +210

    For the draw - 1 Unit each

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2010 - 7:04 PM ET #39

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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 7:17 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by aerojackel:

    Like it - has it been profitable for you?



    Well,since October 29th when I started using this method the outcome is 16 won - 35 lost , but the last couple of weeks it went 1 won - 11 lost , so before it was profitable,now it's almost even.
    there was a week where the draws went 10 won - 1 lost,so counting out the best and the worst the numbers are 5 won - 23 lost which is not profitable at all.
    On the long run I ll see if it worths it or not
    The most common resutls were 6 times 0-0,9 times 1-1 and 1 time 2-2.
    now the 0-0 has odds like 8.50 and the 1-1 6.00/6.50,so maybe betting on the correct score is better.
    another thing is the following,these numbers 16w-35l I have so far are in games where there are teams which have the same frequency of draw and of any other result,i.e. 4-8d-8- vs 5-9d-6

    I calculated those games where the opponents have records like in the example I wrote the other day,which was 5-8d-3 vs 4-7d-5 , in this case from Oct 29th till Dic 16th the results are 11 won - 19 lost,going 1 won - 5 lost the last couple of weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerojackel:

    Like it - has it been profitable for you?



    Well,since October 29th when I started using this method the outcome is 16 won - 35 lost , but the last couple of weeks it went 1 won - 11 lost , so before it was profitable,now it's almost even.
    there was a week where the draws went 10 won - 1 lost,so counting out the best and the worst the numbers are 5 won - 23 lost which is not profitable at all.
    On the long run I ll see if it worths it or not
    The most common resutls were 6 times 0-0,9 times 1-1 and 1 time 2-2.
    now the 0-0 has odds like 8.50 and the 1-1 6.00/6.50,so maybe betting on the correct score is better.
    another thing is the following,these numbers 16w-35l I have so far are in games where there are teams which have the same frequency of draw and of any other result,i.e. 4-8d-8- vs 5-9d-6

    I calculated those games where the opponents have records like in the example I wrote the other day,which was 5-8d-3 vs 4-7d-5 , in this case from Oct 29th till Dic 16th the results are 11 won - 19 lost,going 1 won - 5 lost the last couple of weeks

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 7:21 AM ET #41

    the games for this weekend are
    ligue 2
    ajaccio lost
    reims lost
    nantes won
    ligue 1
    rennes pending
    premier league
    sunderland pending
    Greek Superleague
    Kavala pending
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    the games for this weekend are
    ligue 2
    ajaccio lost
    reims lost
    nantes won
    ligue 1
    rennes pending
    premier league
    sunderland pending
    Greek Superleague
    Kavala pending
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 11:10 AM ET #42

    Additional game

    Spain - Segunda - Huesca/Granada +208

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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 2:00 PM ET #43

    wow!!
    you got all the draws in segunda!!!
    i followed you on the last one
    Excellent!
    have you ever thought to combine draws from the same league?


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    wow!!
    you got all the draws in segunda!!!
    i followed you on the last one
    Excellent!
    have you ever thought to combine draws from the same league?


     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 2:40 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by tomius:

    wow!!
    you got all the draws in segunda!!!
    i followed you on the last one
    Excellent!
    have you ever thought to combine draws from the same league?


    It has been a good weekend so far. 

    I have not done any combos for draws but they could be quite profitable on days like today.  Maybe doing a rotation of 2 game combo would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomius:

    wow!!
    you got all the draws in segunda!!!
    i followed you on the last one
    Excellent!
    have you ever thought to combine draws from the same league?


    It has been a good weekend so far. 

    I have not done any combos for draws but they could be quite profitable on days like today.  Maybe doing a rotation of 2 game combo would work.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 2:48 PM ET #45

    Recap for Saturday:

    Spain -Segunda - Huescas/Granada & Gimnastic/Heuleva & Elche/Rayo  - all played separately -

    Plus 6.29 Units today

    Thread Total is:  3.37 (had an Austrailia loss on Tues) + 6.29 (todays) = 9.66 Units

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    Recap for Saturday:

    Spain -Segunda - Huescas/Granada & Gimnastic/Heuleva & Elche/Rayo  - all played separately -

    Plus 6.29 Units today

    Thread Total is:  3.37 (had an Austrailia loss on Tues) + 6.29 (todays) = 9.66 Units

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 1:25 PM ET #46

    Strange odds in Italy -Serie B game today.  It is between Albinoleffe and Piacenza and the odds are -235 for the draw.  A negative?  The books are that sure it will be a draw?  People betting are that sure it will be a draw?

    Normally Italy Serie B - games are a play with the right O/U and spread.  These odds are really strange - mistake?  Will not be playing this.  Could be some value on taking one side or the other though - Albinoleffe is +300 and Piacenza is +1030.

    Any thoughts?

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    Strange odds in Italy -Serie B game today.  It is between Albinoleffe and Piacenza and the odds are -235 for the draw.  A negative?  The books are that sure it will be a draw?  People betting are that sure it will be a draw?

    Normally Italy Serie B - games are a play with the right O/U and spread.  These odds are really strange - mistake?  Will not be playing this.  Could be some value on taking one side or the other though - Albinoleffe is +300 and Piacenza is +1030.

    Any thoughts?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 1:42 PM ET #47

    also here in Italy,I m Greek but I live in Italy,the local books did not accept bets on the draw in this game,not even in other results for the game
    something suspicious is going there
    but
    since they are almost 1.5 million euros on the draw,I suppose that the books will not wanna lose so much money if the game ends in a draw
    considering that the opening line for the draw was 3.00 the books are risking today to lose big in this one
    consider that Bwin a sportsbook which is the main sponsor for Serie B don't even have the game anymore in bets!!!
    personally i placed some money on the home win and less on the away win,having as main bet the over 2.5 goals

    p.s. as for draws I ll ride with the Ligue 2 match LeHavre-Nantes

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    also here in Italy,I m Greek but I live in Italy,the local books did not accept bets on the draw in this game,not even in other results for the game
    something suspicious is going there
    but
    since they are almost 1.5 million euros on the draw,I suppose that the books will not wanna lose so much money if the game ends in a draw
    considering that the opening line for the draw was 3.00 the books are risking today to lose big in this one
    consider that Bwin a sportsbook which is the main sponsor for Serie B don't even have the game anymore in bets!!!
    personally i placed some money on the home win and less on the away win,having as main bet the over 2.5 goals

    p.s. as for draws I ll ride with the Ligue 2 match LeHavre-Nantes

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 1:58 PM ET #48

    Definately something suspicious going in that match - was also thinking of putting some very small amounts on each side.

    Good Luck on the Ligue 2 game - does not qualify for a play for me but I will be tracking it.  I have to get my weekend totals for tracking but last time I checked all draws I tracked from Fri-Sun was a plus 11 Units (includes my 3 posted plays).  It was a good weekend for draws.  Here is hoping it continues for the game you are on. 

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    Definately something suspicious going in that match - was also thinking of putting some very small amounts on each side.

    Good Luck on the Ligue 2 game - does not qualify for a play for me but I will be tracking it.  I have to get my weekend totals for tracking but last time I checked all draws I tracked from Fri-Sun was a plus 11 Units (includes my 3 posted plays).  It was a good weekend for draws.  Here is hoping it continues for the game you are on. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 2:14 PM ET #49

    Looks like it is laundry day in Italy today 
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 12:11 AM ET #50

    International Friendlies - Kuwait/Korea DPR +238

    1 Unit on the draw

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