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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 1:06 AM ET #26

    I thought an exception to betting the favorite was not to bet a team on the run line if they have already won a game in current series by 2 or more which they did tonight.  Thoughts?
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    I thought an exception to betting the favorite was not to bet a team on the run line if they have already won a game in current series by 2 or more which they did tonight.  Thoughts?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 2:28 AM ET #27

    From what I've taken from thoroughly examining the 2009 pdf file...

    is that an exception to betting the favorite on the RL only occurs when that team has won by 2+ runs when they are favored between -105 and -140 in the same series.

    If a team won by 2+ when an underdog or a favorite greater than -190 in a particular series, you can still bet the RL the game they are between -105 and -190
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    From what I've taken from thoroughly examining the 2009 pdf file...

    is that an exception to betting the favorite on the RL only occurs when that team has won by 2+ runs when they are favored between -105 and -140 in the same series.

    If a team won by 2+ when an underdog or a favorite greater than -190 in a particular series, you can still bet the RL the game they are between -105 and -190
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 2:30 AM ET #28

    My question to you MLB, is when do you decide to eat a lil chalk and bet the ML on D bets. I noticed you did that last season but I couldn't understand when you decided to do that?

    I would also like to ask what makes you decide to lay off some D bets. I know it's when a bad team is on a D bet, but do you base it off certain numbers?

    And when you lay off the D bet, is the next bet for that team going to be an A bet?
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    My question to you MLB, is when do you decide to eat a lil chalk and bet the ML on D bets. I noticed you did that last season but I couldn't understand when you decided to do that?

    I would also like to ask what makes you decide to lay off some D bets. I know it's when a bad team is on a D bet, but do you base it off certain numbers?

    And when you lay off the D bet, is the next bet for that team going to be an A bet?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 2:39 AM ET #29

    ...and what sportsbook do you use the night before?
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    ...and what sportsbook do you use the night before?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 3:28 AM ET #30

    ...and how was Boston -1.5 a play? It opened at -150 and the Phillies were at +140ish?

    Isn't the rule, play fav RL when the ML is between -105 and -140
    and play underdog ML when they are between +135 and +195?
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    ...and how was Boston -1.5 a play? It opened at -150 and the Phillies were at +140ish?

    Isn't the rule, play fav RL when the ML is between -105 and -140
    and play underdog ML when they are between +135 and +195?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 4:22 AM ET #31

    Hey Mike I have an idea to increase the profits. Wouldn't it be be better to take only the home fave Run Line? I noticed that it's easier to win by 2 at home than away. And we can take the ML underdogs home and away as they only need to win by one!

    Any insights about this?

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    Hey Mike I have an idea to increase the profits. Wouldn't it be be better to take only the home fave Run Line? I noticed that it's easier to win by 2 at home than away. And we can take the ML underdogs home and away as they only need to win by one!

    Any insights about this?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 12:41 PM ET #32

    Mike,

    I bought your system from James Jones. As you know, he is providing the plays on a daily basis. My question is: are you directly involved in that, or to put it another way, are you 100% confident that Jones will follow you system 100% of the time?

    I am willing to pay you if there is a way to do that to get the proper plays. Of course this would only be required if you are not involved with Jones on a daily basis.

    I am a professional financial trader and handicapper, and I think your system is one of the few brilliant things I have seen over the past 30 years. This conclusion is based on your MLB track record for 2009 and so far in 2010, and although it is hard to verify it day by day, I very much like the logic of the method.
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    Mike,

    I bought your system from James Jones. As you know, he is providing the plays on a daily basis. My question is: are you directly involved in that, or to put it another way, are you 100% confident that Jones will follow you system 100% of the time?

    I am willing to pay you if there is a way to do that to get the proper plays. Of course this would only be required if you are not involved with Jones on a daily basis.

    I am a professional financial trader and handicapper, and I think your system is one of the few brilliant things I have seen over the past 30 years. This conclusion is based on your MLB track record for 2009 and so far in 2010, and although it is hard to verify it day by day, I very much like the logic of the method.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 3:16 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by LasVegasSystems:

    Mike,

    I bought your system from James Jones. As you know, he is providing the plays on a daily basis. My question is: are you directly involved in that, or to put it another way, are you 100% confident that Jones will follow you system 100% of the time?

    I am willing to pay you if there is a way to do that to get the proper plays. Of course this would only be required if you are not involved with Jones on a daily basis.

    I am a professional financial trader and handicapper, and I think your system is one of the few brilliant things I have seen over the past 30 years. This conclusion is based on your MLB track record for 2009 and so far in 2010, and although it is hard to verify it day by day, I very much like the logic of the method.

    i am in no way associated with him what so ever. i have a handful of guys that i send the games too everyday. i had nothing to do with the making of his pdf or his rules. so i dont know exactly what he is doing or how he is sending his plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by LasVegasSystems:

    Mike,

    I bought your system from James Jones. As you know, he is providing the plays on a daily basis. My question is: are you directly involved in that, or to put it another way, are you 100% confident that Jones will follow you system 100% of the time?

    I am willing to pay you if there is a way to do that to get the proper plays. Of course this would only be required if you are not involved with Jones on a daily basis.

    I am a professional financial trader and handicapper, and I think your system is one of the few brilliant things I have seen over the past 30 years. This conclusion is based on your MLB track record for 2009 and so far in 2010, and although it is hard to verify it day by day, I very much like the logic of the method.

    i am in no way associated with him what so ever. i have a handful of guys that i send the games too everyday. i had nothing to do with the making of his pdf or his rules. so i dont know exactly what he is doing or how he is sending his plays

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 3:20 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    My question to you MLB, is when do you decide to eat a lil chalk and bet the ML on D bets. I noticed you did that last season but I couldn't understand when you decided to do that?

    I would also like to ask what makes you decide to lay off some D bets. I know it's when a bad team is on a D bet, but do you base it off certain numbers?

    And when you lay off the D bet, is the next bet for that team going to be an A bet?

    ya i will never lay more then -140 on the ML, so on D plays i figure if we can get the win and not get the +odds its worth it on shitty teams to get some of the $ back that we lost the prior 3 games. it really makes sense later in the year when the bets are much bigger

    on a side note this season there have been alot of 1 run games which sucks, but it will work its way out in long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    My question to you MLB, is when do you decide to eat a lil chalk and bet the ML on D bets. I noticed you did that last season but I couldn't understand when you decided to do that?

    I would also like to ask what makes you decide to lay off some D bets. I know it's when a bad team is on a D bet, but do you base it off certain numbers?

    And when you lay off the D bet, is the next bet for that team going to be an A bet?

    ya i will never lay more then -140 on the ML, so on D plays i figure if we can get the win and not get the +odds its worth it on shitty teams to get some of the $ back that we lost the prior 3 games. it really makes sense later in the year when the bets are much bigger

    on a side note this season there have been alot of 1 run games which sucks, but it will work its way out in long run

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 3:21 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    ...and what sportsbook do you use the night before?

    DSI and Bookmaker only books worth a shit IMO. and they are only ones who pay me every month no matter how much i win. DSI is better for favs and BM better for dogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    ...and what sportsbook do you use the night before?

    DSI and Bookmaker only books worth a shit IMO. and they are only ones who pay me every month no matter how much i win. DSI is better for favs and BM better for dogs

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2010 - 3:28 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by mlb1234:

    i am in no way associated with him what so ever. i have a handful of guys that i send the games too everyday. i had nothing to do with the making of his pdf or his rules. so i dont know exactly what he is doing or how he is sending his plays

    to take it alittle further, i tried to sell this idea myself but wasnt able to get the rules on paper that would make sense to someone who didnt know much about betting. so i just told him verbally what i do and he came up with what he is selling. to be completely honest i havent even seen his rules  so im not 100% sure on what hes doing, but it should be pretty close i would think

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlb1234:

    i am in no way associated with him what so ever. i have a handful of guys that i send the games too everyday. i had nothing to do with the making of his pdf or his rules. so i dont know exactly what he is doing or how he is sending his plays

    to take it alittle further, i tried to sell this idea myself but wasnt able to get the rules on paper that would make sense to someone who didnt know much about betting. so i just told him verbally what i do and he came up with what he is selling. to be completely honest i havent even seen his rules  so im not 100% sure on what hes doing, but it should be pretty close i would think

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 3:09 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by mlb1234:

    i am in no way associated with him what so ever. i have a handful of guys that i send the games too everyday. i had nothing to do with the making of his pdf or his rules. so i dont know exactly what he is doing or how he is sending his plays



    If you go to his site and his blog, he claims he is working with you. You are saying that is not true? I would call your lawyer.

    If not being able to make the rules clear, you should have found a good technical writer that could simplify it for a novice bettor. I would have written it for you.

    Unfortunately, the system relies on winning by two runs, and a string of 1 run victories by favorites can destroy your bankroll. Also, betting on dogs in a series is not as successful long term as many claim, because betting on bad teams presupposes that the plus money line results will offset low winning percentages.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mlb1234:

    i am in no way associated with him what so ever. i have a handful of guys that i send the games too everyday. i had nothing to do with the making of his pdf or his rules. so i dont know exactly what he is doing or how he is sending his plays



    If you go to his site and his blog, he claims he is working with you. You are saying that is not true? I would call your lawyer.

    If not being able to make the rules clear, you should have found a good technical writer that could simplify it for a novice bettor. I would have written it for you.

    Unfortunately, the system relies on winning by two runs, and a string of 1 run victories by favorites can destroy your bankroll. Also, betting on dogs in a series is not as successful long term as many claim, because betting on bad teams presupposes that the plus money line results will offset low winning percentages.




     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 12:07 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by LasVegasSystems:



    If you go to his site and his blog, he claims he is working with you. You are saying that is not true? I would call your lawyer.

    If not being able to make the rules clear, you should have found a good technical writer that could simplify it for a novice bettor. I would have written it for you.

    Unfortunately, the system relies on winning by two runs, and a string of 1 run victories by favorites can destroy your bankroll. Also, betting on dogs in a series is not as successful long term as many claim, because betting on bad teams presupposes that the plus money line results will offset low winning percentages.




    yes i will look more into the site becuase like i said, i have nothing to do with that.

    as far as as your thinking on the favs having to win by 2 and dogs having to win at a "low percentage" i will tell you this, 70% of all games are won by 2 runs or more and underdogs win 43% of the time. even the worst teams in baseball win 60 games per year. if you are looking to win every single day it wont happen not even close, there will be moring losing days then winning days in terms of W & L but over the course of a season you will make 1000x more money then you can imagine.

    with that being said, wheather you play the sytem or not, it dont matter to me im not trying to sell anything to anyone, I make a great living following this system and have for many years. are there times it frustrating and do loosing streaks happen? of course, but thru the course of a season it will always turn a great return. Im just here to help people do it right the best I can. if you have anymore questions feel free to ask and i will do my best to answer them

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    If you go to his site and his blog, he claims he is working with you. You are saying that is not true? I would call your lawyer.

    If not being able to make the rules clear, you should have found a good technical writer that could simplify it for a novice bettor. I would have written it for you.

    Unfortunately, the system relies on winning by two runs, and a string of 1 run victories by favorites can destroy your bankroll. Also, betting on dogs in a series is not as successful long term as many claim, because betting on bad teams presupposes that the plus money line results will offset low winning percentages.




    yes i will look more into the site becuase like i said, i have nothing to do with that.

    as far as as your thinking on the favs having to win by 2 and dogs having to win at a "low percentage" i will tell you this, 70% of all games are won by 2 runs or more and underdogs win 43% of the time. even the worst teams in baseball win 60 games per year. if you are looking to win every single day it wont happen not even close, there will be moring losing days then winning days in terms of W & L but over the course of a season you will make 1000x more money then you can imagine.

    with that being said, wheather you play the sytem or not, it dont matter to me im not trying to sell anything to anyone, I make a great living following this system and have for many years. are there times it frustrating and do loosing streaks happen? of course, but thru the course of a season it will always turn a great return. Im just here to help people do it right the best I can. if you have anymore questions feel free to ask and i will do my best to answer them

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 1:00 PM ET #39

    I believe mlb1234 when he says he can make a nice profit with this system but I think there have to be some tweeks in it You can't bet on almost 15 games each and every day and when you have 7 D bets going on you have to bet 7 X 6% = 42% of your bankroll on those 7 games alone... So I think it's a good system but there have to be some more rules..
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    I believe mlb1234 when he says he can make a nice profit with this system but I think there have to be some tweeks in it You can't bet on almost 15 games each and every day and when you have 7 D bets going on you have to bet 7 X 6% = 42% of your bankroll on those 7 games alone... So I think it's a good system but there have to be some more rules..
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 1:29 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    I believe mlb1234 when he says he can make a nice profit with this system but I think there have to be some tweeks in it You can't bet on almost 15 games each and every day and when you have 7 D bets going on you have to bet 7 X 6% = 42% of your bankroll on those 7 games alone... So I think it's a good system but there have to be some more rules..


    That is correct- too much of bankroll at risk most of the time on a method that does not have a high winning %.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    I believe mlb1234 when he says he can make a nice profit with this system but I think there have to be some tweeks in it You can't bet on almost 15 games each and every day and when you have 7 D bets going on you have to bet 7 X 6% = 42% of your bankroll on those 7 games alone... So I think it's a good system but there have to be some more rules..


    That is correct- too much of bankroll at risk most of the time on a method that does not have a high winning %.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 1:48 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    I believe mlb1234 when he says he can make a nice profit with this system but I think there have to be some tweeks in it You can't bet on almost 15 games each and every day and when you have 7 D bets going on you have to bet 7 X 6% = 42% of your bankroll on those 7 games alone... So I think it's a good system but there have to be some more rules..

    sport.

    yes that would be a bad scenario, in past 5 seasons there hasnt been a day with that many D bets ever, but i guess its possible. the average day should be about 30% of BR in play. you wont win every game or lose every game. you can tweek it however you feel most comfortable, but when you start picking and chosing what games to play you will get into trouble. thats where handicapping comes into play and not a "system"

    whatever you choose to do good luck and stick to it. maybe lower the odds range on dogs or increase it on favorites so your not playing as many games, but the #'s i used do work. hope everything works out well for you bro

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    I believe mlb1234 when he says he can make a nice profit with this system but I think there have to be some tweeks in it You can't bet on almost 15 games each and every day and when you have 7 D bets going on you have to bet 7 X 6% = 42% of your bankroll on those 7 games alone... So I think it's a good system but there have to be some more rules..

    sport.

    yes that would be a bad scenario, in past 5 seasons there hasnt been a day with that many D bets ever, but i guess its possible. the average day should be about 30% of BR in play. you wont win every game or lose every game. you can tweek it however you feel most comfortable, but when you start picking and chosing what games to play you will get into trouble. thats where handicapping comes into play and not a "system"

    whatever you choose to do good luck and stick to it. maybe lower the odds range on dogs or increase it on favorites so your not playing as many games, but the #'s i used do work. hope everything works out well for you bro

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 1:52 PM ET #42

    just curious what games he sent you guys today 6/13 ?

    i sent out 6 games to my guys 1A 3B 2C

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    just curious what games he sent you guys today 6/13 ?

    i sent out 6 games to my guys 1A 3B 2C

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 4:14 PM ET #43

    I don't receive plays, but based on "the rules" laid out.....

    Dbacks
    Indians
    Pirates
    Red Sox -1.5
    Mets -1.5
    Twins -1.5
    Brewers -1.5
    Blue Jays
    A's
    Padres -1.5
    Dodgers -1.5

    Which plays don't correlate with yours and why?
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    I don't receive plays, but based on "the rules" laid out.....

    Dbacks
    Indians
    Pirates
    Red Sox -1.5
    Mets -1.5
    Twins -1.5
    Brewers -1.5
    Blue Jays
    A's
    Padres -1.5
    Dodgers -1.5

    Which plays don't correlate with yours and why?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 4:54 PM ET #44

    Here are your Plus Money System picks for Sunday, June 13, 2010

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    Phillies -1.5 a

    Phillies b
    Florida Marlins b
    Altanta B
    Milwaukee Brewers b
    Toronto C
    Oakland C
    dodgers -1.5d

     

    thisd is from the email

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    Here are your Plus Money System picks for Sunday, June 13, 2010

    Interleague :

    Phillies -1.5 a

    Phillies b
    Florida Marlins b
    Altanta B
    Milwaukee Brewers b
    Toronto C
    Oakland C
    dodgers -1.5d

     

    thisd is from the email

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 4:54 PM ET #45

    but he sended the mail at 6.58 so you wouldn't had enough time to bet the 7am games
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    but he sended the mail at 6.58 so you wouldn't had enough time to bet the 7am games
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 4:55 PM ET #46

    7pm games...
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 4:55 PM ET #47

    so their will be another D loss
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    so their will be another D loss
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 6:32 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    so their will be another D loss


    I have received plays for five days (today's were late) and you have lost 4 of 5 days with 4 straight losing days. Based on a $2000 bankroll and following James Jones' recommended % of bankroll money management (a=1.5% b=3% c=4.5% d=6%) you are down $1261.00 as of Sunday's results (I am assuming Dodgers and Oakland lose as those games are not over).

    Being down $1261 is 63.05% of your bankroll, and you need a large % return on a smaller balance to get back to even. Although claims have been made of great profitability, it appears like all chases, you need very deep pockets to have any chance of success, and a string of losing days will wipe you out.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    so their will be another D loss


    I have received plays for five days (today's were late) and you have lost 4 of 5 days with 4 straight losing days. Based on a $2000 bankroll and following James Jones' recommended % of bankroll money management (a=1.5% b=3% c=4.5% d=6%) you are down $1261.00 as of Sunday's results (I am assuming Dodgers and Oakland lose as those games are not over).

    Being down $1261 is 63.05% of your bankroll, and you need a large % return on a smaller balance to get back to even. Although claims have been made of great profitability, it appears like all chases, you need very deep pockets to have any chance of success, and a string of losing days will wipe you out.


     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 6:38 PM ET #49

    i didn't bet this system if I see CHASE i stay away from it :) Betting 6% of my bankroll on an underdog? no way :p
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    i didn't bet this system if I see CHASE i stay away from it :) Betting 6% of my bankroll on an underdog? no way :p
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 10:44 AM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    i didn't bet this system if I see CHASE i stay away from it :) Betting 6% of my bankroll on an underdog? no way :p


    100% correct. And while it may be true that MLB dogs cover 40%+ of the time over all, not all dogs are created equal. Teams with very poor w/l percentages are also losers on money line and run line bets. The "system" takes many of these as plays, so when you are risking 6% of your bankroll on a team like Baltimore that has a winning % of .270, or Pittsburgh at .365, or Seattle at .381, or Houston at .391 - you are asking them to take your money from you- and they will. The system need filters which no one has provided- at least in this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    i didn't bet this system if I see CHASE i stay away from it :) Betting 6% of my bankroll on an underdog? no way :p


    100% correct. And while it may be true that MLB dogs cover 40%+ of the time over all, not all dogs are created equal. Teams with very poor w/l percentages are also losers on money line and run line bets. The "system" takes many of these as plays, so when you are risking 6% of your bankroll on a team like Baltimore that has a winning % of .270, or Pittsburgh at .365, or Seattle at .381, or Houston at .391 - you are asking them to take your money from you- and they will. The system need filters which no one has provided- at least in this forum.
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