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    Danrules24
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    Posted: May. 13, 2013 - 4:41 PM ET #76

    BigTen, you are right about the rl - just win baby. I didn't say I bet the rl, just that I couldn't blame others that do.
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    BigTen, you are right about the rl - just win baby. I didn't say I bet the rl, just that I couldn't blame others that do.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2013 - 4:48 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by hansivonmueller:

    Shame about B2W not being around, but as with most things in life you need to move on. I will try to add my two bits worth if there appears to be an error.  This is early days, so there may be errors, but as the season progresses I think things will fall into place.  If the posting becomes too tedious and you need a break Dan, just let the people know.

    I may ask for a little help coming up. I have to travel from Vegas to California for my daughter's college graduation. Not sure if I'll be able to track things for the series that start on Thursday May 23 and Friday May 24 through that weekend. Anyone want to volunteer now for these days?

    Looking ahead the series that start on Monday May 27 are all 2 game series as are the following series on Wednesday May 29. That'll be interesting. teams will need to qualify for both for a play. Chance for some double dips though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansivonmueller:

    Shame about B2W not being around, but as with most things in life you need to move on. I will try to add my two bits worth if there appears to be an error.  This is early days, so there may be errors, but as the season progresses I think things will fall into place.  If the posting becomes too tedious and you need a break Dan, just let the people know.

    I may ask for a little help coming up. I have to travel from Vegas to California for my daughter's college graduation. Not sure if I'll be able to track things for the series that start on Thursday May 23 and Friday May 24 through that weekend. Anyone want to volunteer now for these days?

    Looking ahead the series that start on Monday May 27 are all 2 game series as are the following series on Wednesday May 29. That'll be interesting. teams will need to qualify for both for a play. Chance for some double dips though.

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2013 - 7:55 PM ET #78

    Dan are we going to follow all of b2w rules in this thread.example of the one that states to avoid series where the two potential teams are going in opposite directions.the better team might be on a three game slide where as the team under .500 might be on a 3 game win streak? I just remember him mentioning that, and it might help later in the year when teams start to rest players

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    Dan are we going to follow all of b2w rules in this thread.example of the one that states to avoid series where the two potential teams are going in opposite directions.the better team might be on a three game slide where as the team under .500 might be on a 3 game win streak? I just remember him mentioning that, and it might help later in the year when teams start to rest players

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jattdoit:

    Dan are we going to follow all of b2w rules in this thread.example of the one that states to avoid series where the two potential teams are going in opposite directions.the better team might be on a three game slide where as the team under .500 might be on a 3 game win streak? I just remember him mentioning that, and it might help later in the year when teams start to rest players


    So I found B2W's rules from last year

    MLB RPI SYSTEM 2012

     

    MLB RPI system in a nutshell. The RPI tends to tighten as the season progresses, so post all star game I use different numbers.

    1. This is a series chase. I DO NOT chase after a 3rd straight loss in a 4 game series. IDK why, but I don't. You can if you like.

    2. How to pick series. Pre all star game: check the upcoming series. Check the ESPN RPI rankings.

    If any team is the visiting team and has an RPI of over 50 points or more over the home team they are playing, take the visiting team for a series chase.

    If any team is the home team and they have an RPI of 42 points or more than the visiting team, take the home team for a series chase. In 2011 if we used 40 points as a home team we would have had an extra loss with the NYY at the Beg. of the season. 

    Filters:

    1. If the lower RPI has been playing significantly better baseball over the last week or so, do not play the series.

    2. Losing streaks. Big losing streaks by better RPI team, dont play series.

    3. Teams going in obvious opposite directions in the W/L column, I will take the series even if off a Point or max 2 on the rpi.

    4. Injuries. Watch how the teams play for a few days then decide to take a series if a good player has been hurt. The Angels lost Kendry Morales and went on a 10 game winning streak two (2) years ago. Go figure, so watch.

    5. Another note, in a 4 game series, if, and ONLY if the team you bet on for the series wins the FIRST game of a four game series, start the series over the next day as a new series. Basically, wwe would be banking they will win one of the next 3 as well.

    6. New rule implemented last year: Do NOT take a team that is .500% or below no matter how far off the RPI is.  If we had used this rule last year we would have went undefeated. 

    7. If team with higher RPI is playing BACK TO BACK TWO (2) game series, take the chase as if playing a 4 game series versus a lesser opponent.  Both teams MUST meet the RPI qualifications before the first game of the first 2 game series.

    8. POST All STAR GAME RPI DIFFERENCE NEEDED IS: 35 Home and 42 for Visitor

    Now here is the thing - the way we determined if 1) Opp is playing better baseball 2) RPI team is on a losing streak OR 3) Teams going in opposite directions in W/L column was to look at last 10 and and total wins

    This is how we did it last year - Last year we set last 10 to >4 and >3 wins than opponent

    I just looked at the 2013 sheet - and we have the filters set too low - we have it set to last 10>=3 and  win edge >=3

    Maybe that's why we have been getting so many plays - well I can just tell you what was set up last year - you guys decide what you want to set the filters to.

    Not sure where we got 4 and 3 from last year - I think B2W sent me a PM with what we should use - i'll see if I can dig it out.

    Now let the swirl begin - i'm sure there will be many opinions on what thresholds to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jattdoit:

    Dan are we going to follow all of b2w rules in this thread.example of the one that states to avoid series where the two potential teams are going in opposite directions.the better team might be on a three game slide where as the team under .500 might be on a 3 game win streak? I just remember him mentioning that, and it might help later in the year when teams start to rest players


    So I found B2W's rules from last year

    MLB RPI SYSTEM 2012

     

    MLB RPI system in a nutshell. The RPI tends to tighten as the season progresses, so post all star game I use different numbers.

    1. This is a series chase. I DO NOT chase after a 3rd straight loss in a 4 game series. IDK why, but I don't. You can if you like.

    2. How to pick series. Pre all star game: check the upcoming series. Check the ESPN RPI rankings.

    If any team is the visiting team and has an RPI of over 50 points or more over the home team they are playing, take the visiting team for a series chase.

    If any team is the home team and they have an RPI of 42 points or more than the visiting team, take the home team for a series chase. In 2011 if we used 40 points as a home team we would have had an extra loss with the NYY at the Beg. of the season. 

    Filters:

    1. If the lower RPI has been playing significantly better baseball over the last week or so, do not play the series.

    2. Losing streaks. Big losing streaks by better RPI team, dont play series.

    3. Teams going in obvious opposite directions in the W/L column, I will take the series even if off a Point or max 2 on the rpi.

    4. Injuries. Watch how the teams play for a few days then decide to take a series if a good player has been hurt. The Angels lost Kendry Morales and went on a 10 game winning streak two (2) years ago. Go figure, so watch.

    5. Another note, in a 4 game series, if, and ONLY if the team you bet on for the series wins the FIRST game of a four game series, start the series over the next day as a new series. Basically, wwe would be banking they will win one of the next 3 as well.

    6. New rule implemented last year: Do NOT take a team that is .500% or below no matter how far off the RPI is.  If we had used this rule last year we would have went undefeated. 

    7. If team with higher RPI is playing BACK TO BACK TWO (2) game series, take the chase as if playing a 4 game series versus a lesser opponent.  Both teams MUST meet the RPI qualifications before the first game of the first 2 game series.

    8. POST All STAR GAME RPI DIFFERENCE NEEDED IS: 35 Home and 42 for Visitor

    Now here is the thing - the way we determined if 1) Opp is playing better baseball 2) RPI team is on a losing streak OR 3) Teams going in opposite directions in W/L column was to look at last 10 and and total wins

    This is how we did it last year - Last year we set last 10 to >4 and >3 wins than opponent

    I just looked at the 2013 sheet - and we have the filters set too low - we have it set to last 10>=3 and  win edge >=3

    Maybe that's why we have been getting so many plays - well I can just tell you what was set up last year - you guys decide what you want to set the filters to.

    Not sure where we got 4 and 3 from last year - I think B2W sent me a PM with what we should use - i'll see if I can dig it out.

    Now let the swirl begin - i'm sure there will be many opinions on what thresholds to use.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:57 AM ET #80

    Monday system results

    3-1

    Detroit WIN

    KC WIN

    Colorado Loss, B game Tuesday

    STL WIN. Another A game Tuesday since it's a 4 game series

    Record: 18-1

    A: 13-7

    B: 4-2  (Colo pending)

    C: 1-1

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    Monday system results

    3-1

    Detroit WIN

    KC WIN

    Colorado Loss, B game Tuesday

    STL WIN. Another A game Tuesday since it's a 4 game series

    Record: 18-1

    A: 13-7

    B: 4-2  (Colo pending)

    C: 1-1

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 6:30 AM ET #81

    I believe we have the Yanks and Reds as official plays as well but correct me if I'm wrong.
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    I believe we have the Yanks and Reds as official plays as well but correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 6:48 AM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by BookieCrusher88:

    I believe we have the Yanks and Reds as official plays as well but correct me if I'm wrong.

    true! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BookieCrusher88:

    I believe we have the Yanks and Reds as official plays as well but correct me if I'm wrong.

    true! 
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 12:02 PM ET #83

    Question didnt the rockies only have a difference of 37 on the rpi vs. the cubs? or am i doing it wrong? if i did the math right then that series shouldnt have been a play?
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    Question didnt the rockies only have a difference of 37 on the rpi vs. the cubs? or am i doing it wrong? if i did the math right then that series shouldnt have been a play?
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 12:20 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by Jattdoit:

    Question didnt the rockies only have a difference of 37 on the rpi vs. the cubs? or am i doing it wrong? if i did the math right then that series shouldnt have been a play?

    The rpi difference yesterday for the start of the series was 50, making them a play.

    For today:

    Colo B game

    NYY A game

    Cincy A game

    STL   A game

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jattdoit:

    Question didnt the rockies only have a difference of 37 on the rpi vs. the cubs? or am i doing it wrong? if i did the math right then that series shouldnt have been a play?

    The rpi difference yesterday for the start of the series was 50, making them a play.

    For today:

    Colo B game

    NYY A game

    Cincy A game

    STL   A game

     

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 12:23 PM ET #85

    Degen, there is an error in the spreadsheet. The numbers for L10 are wrong. Take Cincy for example, the sheet shows 4-6 while they are actually 7-3. The Streak is wrong too.
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    Degen, there is an error in the spreadsheet. The numbers for L10 are wrong. Take Cincy for example, the sheet shows 4-6 while they are actually 7-3. The Streak is wrong too.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 12:24 PM ET #86

    baltimore a game also
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    baltimore a game also
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 12:39 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by bennysparky13:

    baltimore a game also

    Baltimore is NOT a play. They only have a 2 game series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennysparky13:

    baltimore a game also

    Baltimore is NOT a play. They only have a 2 game series.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 12:40 PM ET #88

    Thanks Dan. i must be looking at todays number. GL!
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    Thanks Dan. i must be looking at todays number. GL!
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:25 PM ET #89

    Question: does 'filter #1' remove COL from an official play?
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    Question: does 'filter #1' remove COL from an official play?
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 1:54 PM ET #90

    Both teams were 4-6 in L10 coming into the series. Cubs had a 2 game win streak, Colo a 1 game win streak.
     
    Cubs were not playing significantly better coming into the series.
    Cubs were 4-3 in last  7 while Colo was 2-5 last 7. Judgement call if you want to play it or not, but I don't see Filter 1 being a factor here.
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    Both teams were 4-6 in L10 coming into the series. Cubs had a 2 game win streak, Colo a 1 game win streak.
     
    Cubs were not playing significantly better coming into the series.
    Cubs were 4-3 in last  7 while Colo was 2-5 last 7. Judgement call if you want to play it or not, but I don't see Filter 1 being a factor here.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 6:49 PM ET #91

    Much thanks and appreciation to Danrules24 for posting the plays and DegenGamble for devising the excel spreadsheet.  In spite of B2W's absence,  you guys have managed to carry on the system and I for one am thankful.  Appreciation to B2W of course for creating the system.  

    Let's keep it going!!
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    Much thanks and appreciation to Danrules24 for posting the plays and DegenGamble for devising the excel spreadsheet.  In spite of B2W's absence,  you guys have managed to carry on the system and I for one am thankful.  Appreciation to B2W of course for creating the system.  

    Let's keep it going!!
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 9:48 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Degen, there is an error in the spreadsheet. The numbers for L10 are wrong. Take Cincy for example, the sheet shows 4-6 while they are actually 7-3. The Streak is wrong too.

    You rock DanRules - you always find my bugs in all my spreadsheets - keen eye my man.  I was not sorting the MLB history so all the oldest data was on top and it was grabbing that instead of the newest.

    Anyway - uploaded V3 - same link

    Make sure you copy any RPI history you may have to the new version - as I have not been updating it everyday - that's of course if you want the RPI history for the season.

    DG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Degen, there is an error in the spreadsheet. The numbers for L10 are wrong. Take Cincy for example, the sheet shows 4-6 while they are actually 7-3. The Streak is wrong too.

    You rock DanRules - you always find my bugs in all my spreadsheets - keen eye my man.  I was not sorting the MLB history so all the oldest data was on top and it was grabbing that instead of the newest.

    Anyway - uploaded V3 - same link

    Make sure you copy any RPI history you may have to the new version - as I have not been updating it everyday - that's of course if you want the RPI history for the season.

    DG
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 11:00 PM ET #93

    Tuesday results:

    Sweep!!

    Colo wins on the B game

    NYY wins on the A game

    STL wins on the A game

    Cincy wins on the A game

    Record: 22-1

    A: 16-7

    B: 5-2

    C: 1-1

    No games for Wednesday, which is just fine.

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Tuesday results:

    Sweep!!

    Colo wins on the B game

    NYY wins on the A game

    STL wins on the A game

    Cincy wins on the A game

    Record: 22-1

    A: 16-7

    B: 5-2

    C: 1-1

    No games for Wednesday, which is just fine.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2013 - 11:15 PM ET #94

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    Posted: May. 15, 2013 - 10:34 AM ET #95

    What's going on guys?  Glad to see a new thread was ressurected for this year.  I've been checking in every now and then to see if it would pop up.  If you need any help posting or tracking let me know.  I'm doing it anyways so it's no problem on my end.  Let's keep the good times rolling.
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    What's going on guys?  Glad to see a new thread was ressurected for this year.  I've been checking in every now and then to see if it would pop up.  If you need any help posting or tracking let me know.  I'm doing it anyways so it's no problem on my end.  Let's keep the good times rolling.
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2013 - 12:19 PM ET #96

    No games for Thursday. 4 new series start today but no qualifiers.

    For Friday there are 11 new series, so we will get some plays (Pitt, Stl?, AZ, ATL, )

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    No games for Thursday. 4 new series start today but no qualifiers.

    For Friday there are 11 new series, so we will get some plays (Pitt, Stl?, AZ, ATL, )

     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2013 - 12:05 PM ET #97

    Friday 5/17 system plays:

    All A games

    Pitts

    AZ

    ATL

    STL

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Friday 5/17 system plays:

    All A games

    Pitts

    AZ

    ATL

    STL

     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2013 - 1:42 PM ET #98

    Hi guys this is my first post and I started this late last year with good results, I appreciate all your posts and picks. Correct me if I am wrong but both Atlanta and LA Dodgers are both 4-6 in their last 10 games while Atlanta has lost 4 of their last 5, and LAD have won 4 of last 5. Does this still qualify as a play? Hopefully I have the correct info. Thanks
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    Hi guys this is my first post and I started this late last year with good results, I appreciate all your posts and picks. Correct me if I am wrong but both Atlanta and LA Dodgers are both 4-6 in their last 10 games while Atlanta has lost 4 of their last 5, and LAD have won 4 of last 5. Does this still qualify as a play? Hopefully I have the correct info. Thanks
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2013 - 2:05 PM ET #99

    Quote Originally Posted by superocean2013:

    Hi guys this is my first post and I started this late last year with good results, I appreciate all your posts and picks. Correct me if I am wrong but both Atlanta and LA Dodgers are both 4-6 in their last 10 games while Atlanta has lost 4 of their last 5, and LAD have won 4 of last 5. Does this still qualify as a play? Hopefully I have the correct info. Thanks

    Welcome. Both are 4-6 in their last 10. Yes the Dodgers have won 4 out last 5, but they were at home against a Harperless Wash (2-1 series record) and Miami (2-1 series record). Before those 5 they lost 8 in a row including getting swept at home by AZ.

    Atlanta went 4-6 on a road trip to Cincy, SF and AZ - 3 good teams. Atlanta is back home now where their are 9-5 while LAD are 6-9 on the road. Also, no Kershaw for this series for LA. Atlanta has the better team and clear pittching advantage.

    Bottom line is it does qualify for an official play. Your call if you want to play it or not. Sometimes when I feel iffy on a play I'll lay off or bet 1/2 of what I usually do.

    Good observation on the recent streaks.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by superocean2013:

    Hi guys this is my first post and I started this late last year with good results, I appreciate all your posts and picks. Correct me if I am wrong but both Atlanta and LA Dodgers are both 4-6 in their last 10 games while Atlanta has lost 4 of their last 5, and LAD have won 4 of last 5. Does this still qualify as a play? Hopefully I have the correct info. Thanks

    Welcome. Both are 4-6 in their last 10. Yes the Dodgers have won 4 out last 5, but they were at home against a Harperless Wash (2-1 series record) and Miami (2-1 series record). Before those 5 they lost 8 in a row including getting swept at home by AZ.

    Atlanta went 4-6 on a road trip to Cincy, SF and AZ - 3 good teams. Atlanta is back home now where their are 9-5 while LAD are 6-9 on the road. Also, no Kershaw for this series for LA. Atlanta has the better team and clear pittching advantage.

    Bottom line is it does qualify for an official play. Your call if you want to play it or not. Sometimes when I feel iffy on a play I'll lay off or bet 1/2 of what I usually do.

    Good observation on the recent streaks.

     

     
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2013 - 2:09 PM ET #100

    Thanks so much and Ill take your advice, good luck everyone, cheers!
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