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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2017 - 1:56 PM ET #1

    5-0 with this one so far this year, so thought I'd post it. I play the UNDER when the visitor has just played on the road the previous night. Hawks, Habs, Flyers, Blues, and Knights have all played B2B games and the second game of their respective trips have been well under. I do not chase this scenario, just SU wagers. Will discontinue if it falls ten units.

    Thurs 10/12 play:

    pens/bolts UNDER 6  +108   1U

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    5-0 with this one so far this year, so thought I'd post it. I play the UNDER when the visitor has just played on the road the previous night. Hawks, Habs, Flyers, Blues, and Knights have all played B2B games and the second game of their respective trips have been well under. I do not chase this scenario, just SU wagers. Will discontinue if it falls ten units.

    Thurs 10/12 play:

    pens/bolts UNDER 6  +108   1U

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2017 - 7:07 PM ET #2

    Thanks for sharing chaser.

    Anyone know how to run a SDQL for this?
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    Thanks for sharing chaser.

    Anyone know how to run a SDQL for this?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2017 - 9:51 AM ET #3

    rivermonsterz

    Would very much like to see the SDQL results for this!


    Thurs 10/12 result:

    pens/bolts UNDER 6  +108    loss -1U


    YTD: -1U



    Friday 10/13 play:

    wings/knights UNDER 5  +132   .76U to win 1U

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    rivermonsterz

    Would very much like to see the SDQL results for this!


    Thurs 10/12 result:

    pens/bolts UNDER 6  +108    loss -1U


    YTD: -1U



    Friday 10/13 play:

    wings/knights UNDER 5  +132   .76U to win 1U

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2017 - 11:07 AM ET #4

    Ha, second consecutive night my "under" pic had the most goals scored! Posting on covers seems to be this system's "cooler". Onward

    Friday10/13 result:

    Wings/knights    under 5  loss -.76U

    YTD: -1.76U


    Saturday 10/14 plays:

    Caps/flyers  under 5.5 +107   risk 1U
    Sens/oilers   under 5.5 +100   risk 1U
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    Ha, second consecutive night my "under" pic had the most goals scored! Posting on covers seems to be this system's "cooler". Onward

    Friday10/13 result:

    Wings/knights    under 5  loss -.76U

    YTD: -1.76U


    Saturday 10/14 plays:

    Caps/flyers  under 5.5 +107   risk 1U
    Sens/oilers   under 5.5 +100   risk 1U
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2017 - 11:40 PM ET #5

    Caps/flyers 10 goals .  Again, the highest total of the day 
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    Caps/flyers 10 goals .  Again, the highest total of the day 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2017 - 2:27 PM ET #6

    Saturday 10/14 results: laughable 

    Caps under loss -1U
    Sens under loss -1U

    YTD: -3.76U

    Sunday 10/15 plays:

    Bruins  under 5.5 -102  risk     1U
    Sabres under 5   +128  risk  .78U
    Isles     under 5.5 -125  risk1.25U

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    Saturday 10/14 results: laughable 

    Caps under loss -1U
    Sens under loss -1U

    YTD: -3.76U

    Sunday 10/15 plays:

    Bruins  under 5.5 -102  risk     1U
    Sabres under 5   +128  risk  .78U
    Isles     under 5.5 -125  risk1.25U

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2017 - 11:52 AM ET #7

    Sunday 10/15 results: +3units

    Bruins  under 5.5 -102  risk     1U winner
    Sabres under 5   +128  risk  .78U winner
    Isles     under 5.5 -125  risk1.25U winner

    YTD: -0.76 U


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    Sunday 10/15 results: +3units

    Bruins  under 5.5 -102  risk     1U winner
    Sabres under 5   +128  risk  .78U winner
    Isles     under 5.5 -125  risk1.25U winner

    YTD: -0.76 U


     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2017 - 12:30 PM ET #8

    No plays today; Next play 10/17 Bolts@Devils
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    No plays today; Next play 10/17 Bolts@Devils
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2017 - 6:36 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

    Thanks for sharing chaser.

    Anyone know how to run a SDQL for this?

    p:A and A and rest=0 and season=2016?show_games=300

    there you go..

    not bad.. though. hit's around 55-60% 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

    Thanks for sharing chaser.

    Anyone know how to run a SDQL for this?

    p:A and A and rest=0 and season=2016?show_games=300

    there you go..

    not bad.. though. hit's around 55-60% 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2017 - 8:47 PM ET #10

     Extremist...appreciate it!
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     Extremist...appreciate it!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2017 - 9:23 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by chaser15:

     Extremist...appreciate it!

    Good find bro. You got 10 more games left for the season. With a Chase you can clean house bro..here's a link for the games this season remaining for this trend:

    https://killersports.com/nhl/query?sdql=p%3AA+and+A+and+rest%3D0+and+season%3D2017%3Fshow_games%3D300&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaser15:

     Extremist...appreciate it!

    Good find bro. You got 10 more games left for the season. With a Chase you can clean house bro..here's a link for the games this season remaining for this trend:

    https://killersports.com/nhl/query?sdql=p%3AA+and+A+and+rest%3D0+and+season%3D2017%3Fshow_games%3D300&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2017 - 9:26 PM ET #12

    sorry didn't mean for the season , I meant for the month of October. the rest of the games have not been entered in the sdql yet.
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    sorry didn't mean for the season , I meant for the month of October. the rest of the games have not been entered in the sdql yet.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2017 - 2:11 PM ET #13

    Extremist - nice work my friend, much appreciated.

    Chaser - great find, I will be joining you this season, playing on a labby line.  Best of luck brother, lets make some ca$h

    puckan_cheers

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    Extremist - nice work my friend, much appreciated.

    Chaser - great find, I will be joining you this season, playing on a labby line.  Best of luck brother, lets make some ca$h

    puckan_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2017 - 6:52 PM ET #14

    Tuesday 10/17 play:

    Bolts/Devils Under 5.5 +101 risking 1U
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    Tuesday 10/17 play:

    Bolts/Devils Under 5.5 +101 risking 1U
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 12:41 AM ET #15

    have you thought about playing the under TT for the team on back-to-back road games no rest? Intuitively would seem to make more sense. based on the SDQL results and assuming every TT is 2.5 it would be 6-6
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    have you thought about playing the under TT for the team on back-to-back road games no rest? Intuitively would seem to make more sense. based on the SDQL results and assuming every TT is 2.5 it would be 6-6
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 12:42 AM ET #16

    tough to tell the exact record if some TT were 3 or 3.5 though
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    tough to tell the exact record if some TT were 3 or 3.5 though
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 2:37 AM ET #17

    I'll keep track of the TT under going forward just to see how it compares
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    I'll keep track of the TT under going forward just to see how it compares
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 12:04 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by smurph_daddy:

    have you thought about playing the under TT for the team on back-to-back road games no rest? Intuitively would seem to make more sense. based on the SDQL results and assuming every TT is 2.5 it would be 6-6


    You are absolutely correct! The percentages are higher if you play goals under 2.5 vs playing the Under. When I looked at the Under I didn't see the amount of pushes, I just looked at over/unders but when you consider the pushes the % is actually under 50% for every year. Here's the query that compares both systems vs eachother: TT under is the better choice. Click on the below link or use the query below that:


    https://killersports.com/nhl/query?sdql=A%28goals%3C2.5%29+as+%27%25+of+TT+under+2.5%27%2CA%28U%29+as+%27%25+of+Under%27%40+A+and+p%3AA+and+rest%3D0+and+season%3D2016%2C2015%2C2014%2C2013+&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++


    A(goals<2.5) as '% of TT under 2.5',A(U) as '% of Under'@ A and p:A and rest=0 and season=2016,2015,2014,2013 


    Let me know what you guys think 

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurph_daddy:

    have you thought about playing the under TT for the team on back-to-back road games no rest? Intuitively would seem to make more sense. based on the SDQL results and assuming every TT is 2.5 it would be 6-6


    You are absolutely correct! The percentages are higher if you play goals under 2.5 vs playing the Under. When I looked at the Under I didn't see the amount of pushes, I just looked at over/unders but when you consider the pushes the % is actually under 50% for every year. Here's the query that compares both systems vs eachother: TT under is the better choice. Click on the below link or use the query below that:


    https://killersports.com/nhl/query?sdql=A%28goals%3C2.5%29+as+%27%25+of+TT+under+2.5%27%2CA%28U%29+as+%27%25+of+Under%27%40+A+and+p%3AA+and+rest%3D0+and+season%3D2016%2C2015%2C2014%2C2013+&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++


    A(goals<2.5) as '% of TT under 2.5',A(U) as '% of Under'@ A and p:A and rest=0 and season=2016,2015,2014,2013 


    Let me know what you guys think 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 12:08 PM ET #19

    sorry the thread got cut off when I posted the link. here it is again.

    When considering the pushes the % is under 50% when 1st looked at the results I just looked at over/under but once you get the pushed you actually drop the % before 50% so TT under is the better choice averaging around 55% for the past 4 years.

    don't use the link because it's cut off. Go to killersports.com and choose NHL , then SDQL query page and then past the query I put on there to compare the stats.

    A(goals<2.5) as '% of TT under 2.5',A(U) as '% of Under'@ A and p:A and rest=0 and season=2016,2015,2014,2013 


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    sorry the thread got cut off when I posted the link. here it is again.

    When considering the pushes the % is under 50% when 1st looked at the results I just looked at over/under but once you get the pushed you actually drop the % before 50% so TT under is the better choice averaging around 55% for the past 4 years.

    don't use the link because it's cut off. Go to killersports.com and choose NHL , then SDQL query page and then past the query I put on there to compare the stats.

    A(goals<2.5) as '% of TT under 2.5',A(U) as '% of Under'@ A and p:A and rest=0 and season=2016,2015,2014,2013 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 12:12 PM ET #20

    I did notice that so far this year the Unders would've been better choice because over 2.5 has been hitting at a high rate but that will drop down to below 50% in the next couple of weeks. if you comparing trends from year to year I would say go with the TT, it has worked for the past 4 years
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    I did notice that so far this year the Unders would've been better choice because over 2.5 has been hitting at a high rate but that will drop down to below 50% in the next couple of weeks. if you comparing trends from year to year I would say go with the TT, it has worked for the past 4 years
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 12:54 PM ET #21

    Good input and observations men. While the percentages do appear stronger for the TT play, the juice is concerning as it seems to be priced in the -115 to -120 range. The "under" play so far (including today's) is priced much more favorably...average price through 9 games is +108. Given this, I think either play yields a fairly small profit, if any profit at all by straight wagering. Chasing the way to go here ya think?
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    Good input and observations men. While the percentages do appear stronger for the TT play, the juice is concerning as it seems to be priced in the -115 to -120 range. The "under" play so far (including today's) is priced much more favorably...average price through 9 games is +108. Given this, I think either play yields a fairly small profit, if any profit at all by straight wagering. Chasing the way to go here ya think?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 3:08 PM ET #22

    Extremist - is it possible to bring in the odds for those TT unders and see if the 54-57% is actually profitable?
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    Extremist - is it possible to bring in the odds for those TT unders and see if the 54-57% is actually profitable?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2017 - 7:53 PM ET #23

    Wednesday 10/18 play:


    Habs/Kings under 5 +125  risking 1U

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    Wednesday 10/18 play:


    Habs/Kings under 5 +125  risking 1U

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2017 - 9:37 AM ET #24

    No, SDQL doesnt' have the odds for the Under 2.5. 

    However I looked further and what even hits at higher percentage is fading the away team. it hits around 52-56% playing on the home team. Playing under the whole game is just not going to cut it. to each his own. good luck
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    No, SDQL doesnt' have the odds for the Under 2.5. 

    However I looked further and what even hits at higher percentage is fading the away team. it hits around 52-56% playing on the home team. Playing under the whole game is just not going to cut it. to each his own. good luck
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2017 - 12:48 PM ET #25

    Habs under 2.5 (-135) hit

    Under 2.5:
    1-0 +1u 74.07%

    Fade hit also but im not gonna track that. odds were Kings -175 last night

    Next is Canucks on Friday
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    Habs under 2.5 (-135) hit

    Under 2.5:
    1-0 +1u 74.07%

    Fade hit also but im not gonna track that. odds were Kings -175 last night

    Next is Canucks on Friday
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