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    therizz
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2011 - 6:26 PM ET #351

    Quote Originally Posted by Coverlicious:

     

    sabres are game 2 tonight.

    i cant wrap my head around this agressive labby thingy..

    sabres lost around -165 the other night, so do you bet to win that 165 back as well as 100 for the overall prophet of 100? (based on if you are betting 100 per game)

    thanks

    what you are describing is martingale.  Labouchere spreads out the burden to all levels of the chase.  In your example, trying to win 100 per series in a 3 game chase, I would set up 3 lines representing all the Game 1, 2, and 3 bets.

    G1 :    50-50

    G2 :    50-50

    G3 :    50-50

    Always cross off your wins first, then bring in your losses.  In our example.  We would cross off our two wins and then bring back in our base bet ($100).  I take half of a Game 1 loss and place it at the end of line 1 and half at the end of line 2.

    50-133     (the 50 plus 83 which is half our loss)

    50-133

    50-50

    So for game 2 you would play to win 50+133 = $183.

    This is "aggressive" because we are adding the loss to the last number in that line as opposed to adding another number like

    50-50-83

    All in all this is just a good way to keep track of your money.  A win crosses off two numbers and makes money at a lower percentage win rate.  If my lines get too big I become less"aggressive" and split the last number in my line.  I usually do this if a play gets above 5% of my bankroll.  This helps to to ride out losing streaks and avoid busting.  The other advantage is you will recoup a series loss much more quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coverlicious:

     

    sabres are game 2 tonight.

    i cant wrap my head around this agressive labby thingy..

    sabres lost around -165 the other night, so do you bet to win that 165 back as well as 100 for the overall prophet of 100? (based on if you are betting 100 per game)

    thanks

    what you are describing is martingale.  Labouchere spreads out the burden to all levels of the chase.  In your example, trying to win 100 per series in a 3 game chase, I would set up 3 lines representing all the Game 1, 2, and 3 bets.

    G1 :    50-50

    G2 :    50-50

    G3 :    50-50

    Always cross off your wins first, then bring in your losses.  In our example.  We would cross off our two wins and then bring back in our base bet ($100).  I take half of a Game 1 loss and place it at the end of line 1 and half at the end of line 2.

    50-133     (the 50 plus 83 which is half our loss)

    50-133

    50-50

    So for game 2 you would play to win 50+133 = $183.

    This is "aggressive" because we are adding the loss to the last number in that line as opposed to adding another number like

    50-50-83

    All in all this is just a good way to keep track of your money.  A win crosses off two numbers and makes money at a lower percentage win rate.  If my lines get too big I become less"aggressive" and split the last number in my line.  I usually do this if a play gets above 5% of my bankroll.  This helps to to ride out losing streaks and avoid busting.  The other advantage is you will recoup a series loss much more quickly.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 10:53 AM ET #352

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    I will do my best!  My work life is very unpredictable.  Hopefully we will get a core group of posters that understand the system and how to keep the lines that can step in and post if I am unable to do so.

    I followed it last year. Very productive (except for that Baltimore vs Texas series right before all-star break-OUCH). I will be more than happy to chip in if you're unavailable.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    I will do my best!  My work life is very unpredictable.  Hopefully we will get a core group of posters that understand the system and how to keep the lines that can step in and post if I am unable to do so.

    I followed it last year. Very productive (except for that Baltimore vs Texas series right before all-star break-OUCH). I will be more than happy to chip in if you're unavailable.

    thanks

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2011 - 8:19 PM ET #353

    Does anybody know what the up coming games are... tough loss on Buffalo
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    Does anybody know what the up coming games are... tough loss on Buffalo
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 2:22 PM ET #354

    la kings tonight
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2011 - 6:22 PM ET #355

    Overall Series Record 44-2

    Game 1 : 31-15, 67%

    Game 2 : 8-7, 57%

    Game 3 : 5-2, 83%

    Losses: 2

    Winning series that covered ML but not PL = 2

    Lost with BUF, Game 1 win with LAK

    Tonight SJ -253

    I will play this on -1.5 to knock down some juice (even)

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    Overall Series Record 44-2

    Game 1 : 31-15, 67%

    Game 2 : 8-7, 57%

    Game 3 : 5-2, 83%

    Losses: 2

    Winning series that covered ML but not PL = 2

    Lost with BUF, Game 1 win with LAK

    Tonight SJ -253

    I will play this on -1.5 to knock down some juice (even)

     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2011 - 9:28 AM ET #356

    I did the same thing Rizz, on SJ....didn't want to pay -270 on the ML so I played the PL instead, and got shafted. Go figure.
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    I did the same thing Rizz, on SJ....didn't want to pay -270 on the ML so I played the PL instead, and got shafted. Go figure.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2011 - 6:55 PM ET #357

    Anyone else remember this system from last year?  I thought it was one the best NHL systems I've seen and the one I started following the later part of last year.  It's therizz's system but it doesn't look like he's running a thread for it this year so I guess I'll try keeping track of it for a while.  Tonight shoud be Pittsburgh opening a 3 game stand at first game -150.  I haven't been following if there were already plays earlier that were missed, starting with this one.

    Pitt -150 A

     

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    Anyone else remember this system from last year?  I thought it was one the best NHL systems I've seen and the one I started following the later part of last year.  It's therizz's system but it doesn't look like he's running a thread for it this year so I guess I'll try keeping track of it for a while.  Tonight shoud be Pittsburgh opening a 3 game stand at first game -150.  I haven't been following if there were already plays earlier that were missed, starting with this one.

    Pitt -150 A

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2011 - 9:43 PM ET #358

    Quote Originally Posted by spoutbec:

    Anyone else remember this system from last year?  I thought it was one the best NHL systems I've seen and the one I started following the later part of last year.  It's therizz's system but it doesn't look like he's running a thread for it this year so I guess I'll try keeping track of it for a while.  Tonight shoud be Pittsburgh opening a 3 game stand at first game -150.  I haven't been following if there were already plays earlier that were missed, starting with this one.

    Pitt -150 A

     




    Thx for bring this up, I forgot about this system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by spoutbec:

    Anyone else remember this system from last year?  I thought it was one the best NHL systems I've seen and the one I started following the later part of last year.  It's therizz's system but it doesn't look like he's running a thread for it this year so I guess I'll try keeping track of it for a while.  Tonight shoud be Pittsburgh opening a 3 game stand at first game -150.  I haven't been following if there were already plays earlier that were missed, starting with this one.

    Pitt -150 A

     




    Thx for bring this up, I forgot about this system.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 10:20 AM ET #359

    I remember it and rode it for a while. Potential plays coming up for October 13th could be the Wild and the Canadians. Lines aren't up but they are starting 3 game homestands and could open up at higher then -145.
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    I remember it and rode it for a while. Potential plays coming up for October 13th could be the Wild and the Canadians. Lines aren't up but they are starting 3 game homestands and could open up at higher then -145.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 3:30 PM ET #360

    Thanks 46989.

    Pitt -150 A

    2011/12 record so far:

    1-0-0

    A game = 1

    B game =

    C game =

    losses =

     

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    Thanks 46989.

    Pitt -150 A

    2011/12 record so far:

    1-0-0

    A game = 1

    B game =

    C game =

    losses =

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 4:33 PM ET #361

    thanks for bringing this back. Will without a doubt be checking back in to see how it performs this year.
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    thanks for bringing this back. Will without a doubt be checking back in to see how it performs this year.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 8:10 PM ET #362

    Does anybody know the total amount of units this system made last year?

    I remember the Caps. losing and then stop following...any comments?
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    Does anybody know the total amount of units this system made last year?

    I remember the Caps. losing and then stop following...any comments?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 8:21 PM ET #363

    Does anybody know the total amount of units this system made last year?

    I remember the Caps. losing and then stop following...any comments?
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    Does anybody know the total amount of units this system made last year?

    I remember the Caps. losing and then stop following...any comments?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 12:24 PM ET #364

    Today there's one game:

    Min -160 A

    gentruchi, I think the number of units would depend on how you did money management.  Even among people who use Labrouchere lines, it seems like there are an almost unlimited number of variations.  I'm not going to even try to keep track of that, just system results.  If I want to know if it's making money or losing money for me I'll check how my balance is doing.  Last year did have 2 losses so martingale should definitely be out.  There were a good percentage of 1st game winners though so labrouchere lines shouldn't take too long to make back losses.

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    Today there's one game:

    Min -160 A

    gentruchi, I think the number of units would depend on how you did money management.  Even among people who use Labrouchere lines, it seems like there are an almost unlimited number of variations.  I'm not going to even try to keep track of that, just system results.  If I want to know if it's making money or losing money for me I'll check how my balance is doing.  Last year did have 2 losses so martingale should definitely be out.  There were a good percentage of 1st game winners though so labrouchere lines shouldn't take too long to make back losses.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 12:41 PM ET #365

    Just a note.  I'll keep track of this series since it fits the official system criteria, but I'm not going to put money on it.  I like Min's chances in game 1 against Edmonton, but in case they lose I don't like the chase, Detroit and Pittsburgh next.
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    Just a note.  I'll keep track of this series since it fits the official system criteria, but I'm not going to put money on it.  I like Min's chances in game 1 against Edmonton, but in case they lose I don't like the chase, Detroit and Pittsburgh next.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 12:58 PM ET #366

    Wild are the play. Im going to try to do this different this season.


    Wild -105 in reg time. Lets get the $$$
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    Wild are the play. Im going to try to do this different this season.


    Wild -105 in reg time. Lets get the $$$
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 7:04 PM ET #367

    I will do the same, I'll play regulation only, will get a couple of more losses but avoid the high juice...did someone track the series playing on regulation only? I think I saw there where 2 more losses playing but in PL...

    any comments?

    I'm in. MIN - 105 Reg.

    Good luck everyone!




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    I will do the same, I'll play regulation only, will get a couple of more losses but avoid the high juice...did someone track the series playing on regulation only? I think I saw there where 2 more losses playing but in PL...

    any comments?

    I'm in. MIN - 105 Reg.

    Good luck everyone!




     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 10:46 PM ET #368

    F**k I guess taking the regulation wasn't a good idea, I guess the system is now 2-0 for the season. Seems the next probable qualifying series will be on Oct . 15.


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    F**k I guess taking the regulation wasn't a good idea, I guess the system is now 2-0 for the season. Seems the next probable qualifying series will be on Oct . 15.


     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by gentruchi] F**k I guess taking the regulation wasn't a good idea, I guess the system is now 2-0 for the season. Seems the next probable qualifying series will be on Oct . 15.



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    [Quote: Originally Posted by gentruchi] F**k I guess taking the regulation wasn't a good idea, I guess the system is now 2-0 for the season. Seems the next probable qualifying series will be on Oct . 15.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 10:52 PM ET #370

    something is just not right

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    something is just not right

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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 11:18 PM ET #371

    That sucks you guys, hopefully it was a small bet.  Well, it was a win for tracking purposes.  Also, I found at least one play this season that I missed.  Chicago on Oct. 8 opened a 3 game homestand against Dallas at -180 and won 5-2 for an A game win.  System so far this year:

    3-0-0

    A game = 3

    B game =

    C game =

    losses =

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    That sucks you guys, hopefully it was a small bet.  Well, it was a win for tracking purposes.  Also, I found at least one play this season that I missed.  Chicago on Oct. 8 opened a 3 game homestand against Dallas at -180 and won 5-2 for an A game win.  System so far this year:

    3-0-0

    A game = 3

    B game =

    C game =

    losses =

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 7:44 PM ET #372

    WOULDNT BUFF BE A PLAY FOR TODAY??
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 9:50 PM ET #373

    Quote Originally Posted by cappernyc:

    WOULDNT BUFF BE A PLAY FOR TODAY??

    Capper,

    The team has to be favored and starting a 3 or more game homestand, which buffalo is not.

    Good luck guys.  I only have time to sporadically check in due to my work schedule.  Hopefully, it is a good season.  I use aggressive labby with this.  Unlike baseball, the juice tends to be higher but generally there are very few plays at any time which allows you to be able to put a little more on the line...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappernyc:

    WOULDNT BUFF BE A PLAY FOR TODAY??

    Capper,

    The team has to be favored and starting a 3 or more game homestand, which buffalo is not.

    Good luck guys.  I only have time to sporadically check in due to my work schedule.  Hopefully, it is a good season.  I use aggressive labby with this.  Unlike baseball, the juice tends to be higher but generally there are very few plays at any time which allows you to be able to put a little more on the line...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2011 - 10:44 PM ET #374

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    Capper,

    The team has to be favored and starting a 3 or more game homestand, which buffalo is not.

    Good luck guys.  I only have time to sporadically check in due to my work schedule.  Hopefully, it is a good season.  I use aggressive labby with this.  Unlike baseball, the juice tends to be higher but generally there are very few plays at any time which allows you to be able to put a little more on the line...


    thanks rizz
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    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    Capper,

    The team has to be favored and starting a 3 or more game homestand, which buffalo is not.

    Good luck guys.  I only have time to sporadically check in due to my work schedule.  Hopefully, it is a good season.  I use aggressive labby with this.  Unlike baseball, the juice tends to be higher but generally there are very few plays at any time which allows you to be able to put a little more on the line...


    thanks rizz
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 2:06 PM ET #375

    Looks like the play tonight is:

    Pho -150 A

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    Looks like the play tonight is:

    Pho -150 A

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