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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 1:56 PM ET #1

    Week 14 (0-6) What a great week..With that, it brings my system to Best Bets (12-3) and Regular Bets (31-13-1)

    Best Bets
    NO -3
    NE -7
    BAL -1

    Regular Bets
    SD -6
    WAS -7
    NYG+3

    Please check the lines before the game times.
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    Week 14 (0-6) What a great week..With that, it brings my system to Best Bets (12-3) and Regular Bets (31-13-1)

    Best Bets
    NO -3
    NE -7
    BAL -1

    Regular Bets
    SD -6
    WAS -7
    NYG+3

    Please check the lines before the game times.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 12:19 PM ET #2

    What is your system?
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 1:02 PM ET #3

    The system looks at offense/defense, turnover, and time of possession. Week 3-13 is really easy to win...Week 14-17 is very diffcult to play because it is getting closer to playoff.

    1. "Must Win" - Those who need the game, Las Vegas usually gives higher odds for "must win" teams. These teams usually win, but not cover..

    NO, NE, WAS, BAL are fall in this situation.

    2. "Rest" for playoff. These teams have clinched playoff and rest their players..

    NYG....

    Therefore, from week 14-17, my picks are not perfect.


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    The system looks at offense/defense, turnover, and time of possession. Week 3-13 is really easy to win...Week 14-17 is very diffcult to play because it is getting closer to playoff.

    1. "Must Win" - Those who need the game, Las Vegas usually gives higher odds for "must win" teams. These teams usually win, but not cover..

    NO, NE, WAS, BAL are fall in this situation.

    2. "Rest" for playoff. These teams have clinched playoff and rest their players..

    NYG....

    Therefore, from week 14-17, my picks are not perfect.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 10:12 AM ET #4

    Best Bets
    NO +3 (PUSH)
    NE -7
    BAL -1

    Regular Bets
    SD -6
    WAS -7
    NYG+3
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    Best Bets
    NO +3 (PUSH)
    NE -7
    BAL -1

    Regular Bets
    SD -6
    WAS -7
    NYG+3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:44 PM ET #5

    I've been using a system since week 8 that I got from a website.  what you do is You take the last 6 scores of a team's points for and points against.  Scratch off the lowest score and the highest score, so you have only 4 scores for each offense and defense.  You add them all together and divide by 4 to get the average for each points for and points against. 
     
    Once you have all these numbers you can match up two teams by using this method:  Add teams A's offense by team B's defense and subtract 20.5, this will give the predicted score for team A in the game.   Do the same for Team B.   And that's how you create power ratings.
     
    Take the scores of your power ratings matchups and compare them to the spreads at your favorite sportsbook.   Pick out the games where there are 3 or more point differences.  For example team A is +7 and your power ratings show them at +2  then you want to keep that game.  If Team A was +7 and your ratings had them at +6 you want to throw that game away.  you only want a 3 or more point difference to move to the next step.
     
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    I've been using a system since week 8 that I got from a website.  what you do is You take the last 6 scores of a team's points for and points against.  Scratch off the lowest score and the highest score, so you have only 4 scores for each offense and defense.  You add them all together and divide by 4 to get the average for each points for and points against. 
     
    Once you have all these numbers you can match up two teams by using this method:  Add teams A's offense by team B's defense and subtract 20.5, this will give the predicted score for team A in the game.   Do the same for Team B.   And that's how you create power ratings.
     
    Take the scores of your power ratings matchups and compare them to the spreads at your favorite sportsbook.   Pick out the games where there are 3 or more point differences.  For example team A is +7 and your power ratings show them at +2  then you want to keep that game.  If Team A was +7 and your ratings had them at +6 you want to throw that game away.  you only want a 3 or more point difference to move to the next step.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:51 PM ET #6

    I took this system one step further and checked out the stats for certain situations since week 8... here's what I came up with:
     
    System trends (Against the Spread) when a team is actually favored by 5 points or less…
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or less:  Record = 9 Wins 7 Losses 56%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 8 Wins 3 Losses 72%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 12 Wins 6 Losses 67%
     
    & the system has them favored by 10 or greater:  Record = 4 Wins 3 Losses 57%
     
    & the system has them favored by any amount:  Record = 20 Wins 12 Losses 62%
     
     
     
     
     
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    I took this system one step further and checked out the stats for certain situations since week 8... here's what I came up with:
     
    System trends (Against the Spread) when a team is actually favored by 5 points or less…
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or less:  Record = 9 Wins 7 Losses 56%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 8 Wins 3 Losses 72%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 12 Wins 6 Losses 67%
     
    & the system has them favored by 10 or greater:  Record = 4 Wins 3 Losses 57%
     
    & the system has them favored by any amount:  Record = 20 Wins 12 Losses 62%
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:52 PM ET #7

    System trends (Against the Spread) when a team is actually favored by 5 - 9.5 points…
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or less:  Record = 4 Wins 5 Losses 44%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 3 Wins 2 Losses 60%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 12 Wins 15 Losses 44%
     
    & the system has them Favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 9 Wins 11 Losses 45%
     
    & the system has them favored by any amount:  Record = 16 Wins 19 Losses 46%
     
     
     
     
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    System trends (Against the Spread) when a team is actually favored by 5 - 9.5 points…
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or less:  Record = 4 Wins 5 Losses 44%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 3 Wins 2 Losses 60%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 12 Wins 15 Losses 44%
     
    & the system has them Favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 9 Wins 11 Losses 45%
     
    & the system has them favored by any amount:  Record = 16 Wins 19 Losses 46%
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:54 PM ET #8

    System trends (Against the Spread) when a team is actually favored by 10 points or greater…
     
    & the system has them favored by less than 10 points:  Record = 1 Win 0 Losses 100%
     
    & the system has them favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 5 Wins 7 Losses 42%
     
     
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    System trends (Against the Spread) when a team is actually favored by 10 points or greater…
     
    & the system has them favored by less than 10 points:  Record = 1 Win 0 Losses 100%
     
    & the system has them favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 5 Wins 7 Losses 42%
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:55 PM ET #9

    System trends (against the Spread) when a team is an actual underdog...
     
    & the system has them favored by any amount:  Record = 13 Wins 13 Losses 50%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or less:  Record = 10 Wins 10 Losses 50%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 4 Wins 2 Losses 67%
     
    & the system has them favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 1 Win 3 Losses 25%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 5 Wins 4 Losses 55%
     
     
     
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    System trends (against the Spread) when a team is an actual underdog...
     
    & the system has them favored by any amount:  Record = 13 Wins 13 Losses 50%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or less:  Record = 10 Wins 10 Losses 50%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 4 Wins 2 Losses 67%
     
    & the system has them favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 1 Win 3 Losses 25%
     
    & the system has them favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 5 Wins 4 Losses 55%
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:57 PM ET #10

    Misc. system trends (Against the Spread)
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 5 - 9.5 Points:  Recored = 15 Wins 9 Losses 63%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 0.5 - 5 Points:  Record = 22 Wins 22 Losses 50%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 33 Wins 33 Losses 50%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 19 Wins 24 Losses 44%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 10 - 20 points:  Record = 16 Wins 19 Losses 46%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 20 - 30 Points:  Record = 3 Win 5 Losses 38%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 20 points or greater:  Record 4 Wins 5 Losses 44%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 30 points or greater:  Record 1 Win 0 Losses 100%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 10 - 15 points:  Record 7 Wins 11 Losses 39%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 15 - 20 points:  Record 10 Wins 9 Losses 53%
     
     
     
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    Misc. system trends (Against the Spread)
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 5 - 9.5 Points:  Recored = 15 Wins 9 Losses 63%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 0.5 - 5 Points:  Record = 22 Wins 22 Losses 50%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 5 points or greater:  Record = 33 Wins 33 Losses 50%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 10 points or greater:  Record = 19 Wins 24 Losses 44%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 10 - 20 points:  Record = 16 Wins 19 Losses 46%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 20 - 30 Points:  Record = 3 Win 5 Losses 38%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 20 points or greater:  Record 4 Wins 5 Losses 44%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 30 points or greater:  Record 1 Win 0 Losses 100%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 10 - 15 points:  Record 7 Wins 11 Losses 39%
     
    Any team that the system has favored by 15 - 20 points:  Record 10 Wins 9 Losses 53%
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 1:01 PM ET #11

    So by looking at these trends it looks like when teams are favored by the system by 5 - 9.5 points it is most successful.  This week those teams are:
     
    SD - System has them favored by 7
     
    MIA - System has them favored by 7
     
    BAL - System has them favored by 7
     
    NE - System has them favored by 6
     
    Just thought you might like to know, I hope this was helpful
     
     
     
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    So by looking at these trends it looks like when teams are favored by the system by 5 - 9.5 points it is most successful.  This week those teams are:
     
    SD - System has them favored by 7
     
    MIA - System has them favored by 7
     
    BAL - System has them favored by 7
     
    NE - System has them favored by 6
     
    Just thought you might like to know, I hope this was helpful
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 1:57 PM ET #12

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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 4:20 PM ET #13

    what are your plays this week?
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 11:21 AM ET #14

    Well, I was doing some more research and since week 8 road dogs have been averaging 6 wins per week.  I'm going to pick 3 road dogs this week and they are:
     
    TB +3.5
    SF +6.5
    DEN +8.5
     
    There are 9 road dogs this week and I'm willing to bet atleast 6 are going to cover.  I've also noticed that the double digit favs have been hitting at a higher rate lately but I don't like to bet them regardless.
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    Well, I was doing some more research and since week 8 road dogs have been averaging 6 wins per week.  I'm going to pick 3 road dogs this week and they are:
     
    TB +3.5
    SF +6.5
    DEN +8.5
     
    There are 9 road dogs this week and I'm willing to bet atleast 6 are going to cover.  I've also noticed that the double digit favs have been hitting at a higher rate lately but I don't like to bet them regardless.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 8:06 PM ET #15

    2-1 on the day isn't bad.  I took that in a 3 team parlay and lost but it was only $5 so no biggie.
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    2-1 on the day isn't bad.  I took that in a 3 team parlay and lost but it was only $5 so no biggie.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2008 - 8:08 PM ET #16

    So far 5 road dogs have beat the spread so I'm looking for either the Giants or the Browns to cover in one of these 2 games to keep the 6 road dog average.  I just wish I was on the winning end of this trend.  Oh well...there's always next week.
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    So far 5 road dogs have beat the spread so I'm looking for either the Giants or the Browns to cover in one of these 2 games to keep the 6 road dog average.  I just wish I was on the winning end of this trend.  Oh well...there's always next week.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 9:52 AM ET #17

    Best Bets
    NO +3 (PUSH)
    NE -7 W
    BAL -1 L

    Regular Bets
    SD -6 L
    WAS -7 L
    NYG+3 L

    As I expected them....From week 14-17...You can play against all these games and you can win.

    At 1pm, I played
    SF W
    DET W
    HOU W
    NYJ Loser
    WAS Loser (my system play)...I figured it not gonna work from week 14 -17

    4pm
    PITT W
    CAR W

    8pm
    DAL W

    I do not think my system will work since it started to fail from week 14. Therefore, this week, I played the games by using the line movement. It works out well.

    MNF..

    So far, I like PHILA...it's still too early to tell.

    (Sorry, I do not post picks on SUNDAY).

    As I've said....week 14-17..those who needed the game, they usually not cover...Just keep that in mind and you can win...

    PHILA tonight is another example. They need this game badly...The spread is very high. Look at the past history,

    08/10/06 CLE 7 - PHI 20 PHI -3.5 U 33.5
    179 47 132 287 104 183
    10/24/04 PHI 34 - CLE 31 x CLE 7.5 O 41
    394 165 229 488 121 367
    12/10/00 PHI 35 - CLE 24 CLE 14 O 34
    418 101 317 391 41 350
    07/30/00 PHI 22 - CLE 33 CLE -2.5 O 35
    0 0 0 0 0 0
    09/02/99 CLE 17 - PHI 30 PHI -4 O 36.5
    0 0 0 0 0 0


    PHILA never covered more than 2 TD against CLE...
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    Best Bets
    NO +3 (PUSH)
    NE -7 W
    BAL -1 L

    Regular Bets
    SD -6 L
    WAS -7 L
    NYG+3 L

    As I expected them....From week 14-17...You can play against all these games and you can win.

    At 1pm, I played
    SF W
    DET W
    HOU W
    NYJ Loser
    WAS Loser (my system play)...I figured it not gonna work from week 14 -17

    4pm
    PITT W
    CAR W

    8pm
    DAL W

    I do not think my system will work since it started to fail from week 14. Therefore, this week, I played the games by using the line movement. It works out well.

    MNF..

    So far, I like PHILA...it's still too early to tell.

    (Sorry, I do not post picks on SUNDAY).

    As I've said....week 14-17..those who needed the game, they usually not cover...Just keep that in mind and you can win...

    PHILA tonight is another example. They need this game badly...The spread is very high. Look at the past history,

    08/10/06 CLE 7 - PHI 20 PHI -3.5 U 33.5
    179 47 132 287 104 183
    10/24/04 PHI 34 - CLE 31 x CLE 7.5 O 41
    394 165 229 488 121 367
    12/10/00 PHI 35 - CLE 24 CLE 14 O 34
    418 101 317 391 41 350
    07/30/00 PHI 22 - CLE 33 CLE -2.5 O 35
    0 0 0 0 0 0
    09/02/99 CLE 17 - PHI 30 PHI -4 O 36.5
    0 0 0 0 0 0


    PHILA never covered more than 2 TD against CLE...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 10:00 AM ET #18

    I'm going to go with the Browns on this one because 5 road dogs covered so far this week and the average is 6 since week 8.  I'm thinking the Browns will be #6 this week.  You should have told me you were on Carolina and I would have won my parlay so I blame you for the loss... just kidding!
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    I'm going to go with the Browns on this one because 5 road dogs covered so far this week and the average is 6 since week 8.  I'm thinking the Browns will be #6 this week.  You should have told me you were on Carolina and I would have won my parlay so I blame you for the loss... just kidding!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 10:29 AM ET #19

    Spectre01, I wouldn't count on the Brown yet...I am not placing any bets until 15 minutes before the game. That way, I can get the accurate line....


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    Spectre01, I wouldn't count on the Brown yet...I am not placing any bets until 15 minutes before the game. That way, I can get the accurate line....


     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 10:32 AM ET #20

    oh by the way, the reason I went to CAR on Sunday is because at 1pm, NYJ was -9 and they lost...So, 4pm, CAR was also -9. If 1pm game lose, 4pm will cover....

    Same thing apply for any other lines.

    The reason I didn't play SD is because the line was at 5.5. This is the dead line. 90% of the time, dog covered when you have 5.5.
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    oh by the way, the reason I went to CAR on Sunday is because at 1pm, NYJ was -9 and they lost...So, 4pm, CAR was also -9. If 1pm game lose, 4pm will cover....

    Same thing apply for any other lines.

    The reason I didn't play SD is because the line was at 5.5. This is the dead line. 90% of the time, dog covered when you have 5.5.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 3:30 PM ET #21

    Based on the line movement, so far, I like Eagles -17 and Under 39.5...
    I wouldn't bet it until 8:15


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    Based on the line movement, so far, I like Eagles -17 and Under 39.5...
    I wouldn't bet it until 8:15


     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2008 - 8:15 PM ET #22

    Final Pick
    CLE +16
    Under 39.5
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    Final Pick
    CLE +16
    Under 39.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2008 - 12:58 PM ET #23

    Looks like Philly proved us both wrong.  I have been looking ahead to week 16 and there are hardly any road dogs to choose from.  I'm going to have to make picks based on the system I'm using in this case.
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    Looks like Philly proved us both wrong.  I have been looking ahead to week 16 and there are hardly any road dogs to choose from.  I'm going to have to make picks based on the system I'm using in this case.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2008 - 1:09 PM ET #24

    yup...lucky that I had 40 on my under..it was a PUSH on the UNDER...

    Just one game..no big deal...Let's make money next week
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    yup...lucky that I had 40 on my under..it was a PUSH on the UNDER...

    Just one game..no big deal...Let's make money next week
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 9:27 AM ET #25

    I'm going to stick to betting road dogs this week 16.  Here are my picks for this Sunday:
     
    ARI @ NE -8.5  Pick: Cardinals
     
    CIN @ CLE -3.5  Pick: Bungles
     
    SD @ TB -4.5  Pick: Chargers
     
    One last pick that I would like to make needs an explanation so here goes....I'm going to take the Vikings -4.5 over the Falcons.  The Vikings are favored by -4.5 and the system that is mentioned above has them as a 9 point favorite.  When a team is actually favored by 5 points or less & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 8 Wins 3 Losses 72%.  This is the trend that has one of the best winning percentages with this system. 
     
     
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    I'm going to stick to betting road dogs this week 16.  Here are my picks for this Sunday:
     
    ARI @ NE -8.5  Pick: Cardinals
     
    CIN @ CLE -3.5  Pick: Bungles
     
    SD @ TB -4.5  Pick: Chargers
     
    One last pick that I would like to make needs an explanation so here goes....I'm going to take the Vikings -4.5 over the Falcons.  The Vikings are favored by -4.5 and the system that is mentioned above has them as a 9 point favorite.  When a team is actually favored by 5 points or less & the system has them favored by 5 - 9.5 points:  Record = 8 Wins 3 Losses 72%.  This is the trend that has one of the best winning percentages with this system. 
     
     
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