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    SWEAP !!!
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 6:24 PM ET #277

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Chapter13]
    I think we're all like little kids the night before Christmas, wondering if this is the year Santa doesn't come - as we wait to see if any SN releases come. 

    Oh yes, Santa did come.  Great work, SN.  Had to incur my wife's wrath as the family stands ready to head to church (that we're late for) as I hover over my computer, but it was worth it.

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Chapter13]
    I think we're all like little kids the night before Christmas, wondering if this is the year Santa doesn't come - as we wait to see if any SN releases come. 

    Oh yes, Santa did come.  Great work, SN.  Had to incur my wife's wrath as the family stands ready to head to church (that we're late for) as I hover over my computer, but it was worth it.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 8:22 AM ET #279

    Hi What is the payoff for a 4 team 13 point teaser play at a sports book Thanks
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    Hi What is the payoff for a 4 team 13 point teaser play at a sports book Thanks
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network]
    NFL  09'  strategic wagering Matchup_Performance formula Sunday. October 11th.  2009
    Week 5  
     
    4team 13pt handicapp
     
    Vikings+2.5 110...win
    Eagles-2  110...win
    Steelers+2.5 110...win
    Giants-1.5 110...win
     
    risk:5units
    to win:4.5.......won+4.5units
     
    NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units...win
     
    MINN / ML  5units...win
     
    CAR / ML   5units...win
     
     
    SN
     
    FINAL RESULTS:
    7-0
    units:+19.5
     
     
    NFL 09' thru week 5
    units: +38.5 sN
     
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network]
    NFL  09'  strategic wagering Matchup_Performance formula Sunday. October 11th.  2009
    Week 5  
     
    4team 13pt handicapp
     
    Vikings+2.5 110...win
    Eagles-2  110...win
    Steelers+2.5 110...win
    Giants-1.5 110...win
     
    risk:5units
    to win:4.5.......won+4.5units
     
    NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units...win
     
    MINN / ML  5units...win
     
    CAR / ML   5units...win
     
     
    SN
     
    FINAL RESULTS:
    7-0
    units:+19.5
     
     
    NFL 09' thru week 5
    units: +38.5 sN
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:28 AM ET #282

    Nice work SN. Anyone! What online offers 13 pt TZRs?
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    Nice work SN. Anyone! What online offers 13 pt TZRs?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 12:10 PM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL  09'  strategic wagering Matchup_Performanc formula Sunday. October 11th.  2009
    Week 5  
     
    4team 13pt handicapp
     
    Vikings+2.5 110
    Eagles-2  110
    Steelers+2.5 110
    Giants-1.5 110
     
    risk:5units
    to win:4.5
     
    NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units
     
    MINN / ML  5units
     
    CAR / ML   5units
     
     
    SN
     

    is there anyway to post this on say friday? to get earlier lines etc. thanks appreciated.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL  09'  strategic wagering Matchup_Performanc formula Sunday. October 11th.  2009
    Week 5  
     
    4team 13pt handicapp
     
    Vikings+2.5 110
    Eagles-2  110
    Steelers+2.5 110
    Giants-1.5 110
     
    risk:5units
    to win:4.5
     
    NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units
     
    MINN / ML  5units
     
    CAR / ML   5units
     
     
    SN
     

    is there anyway to post this on say friday? to get earlier lines etc. thanks appreciated.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 12:20 PM ET #284

    Oh ok so now its not about risked units on those ML , its the amount you wanna win ... cause that was not the case in the past few weeks .... just a little change ....
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    Oh ok so now its not about risked units on those ML , its the amount you wanna win ... cause that was not the case in the past few weeks .... just a little change ....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 2:31 PM ET #285

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL  09'  strategic wagering Matchup_Performance formula Sunday. October 11th.  2009
    Week 5  
     
    4team 13pt handicapp
     
    Vikings+2.5 110...win
    Eagles-2  110...win
    Steelers+2.5 110...win
    Giants-1.5 110...win
     
    risk:5units
    to win:4.5.......won+4.5units
     
    NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units...win
     
    MINN / ML  5units...win
     
    CAR / ML   5units...win
     
     
    SN
     
    FINAL RESULTS:
    7-0
    units:+19.5
     
     
    NFL 09' thru week 5
    units: +38.5 sN
     
     

    Well done SN.  Anyone would be proud with a 4-0 week.

    I do want to point out however that in all of your previous posts you have been stating ML favorites in terms of the amount of units to risk, however this week on your MLs you are claiming +15 units on three wagers of 5 units.  To be consistent with your previous 4 weeks you should be claiming far less than +15 units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL  09'  strategic wagering Matchup_Performance formula Sunday. October 11th.  2009
    Week 5  
     
    4team 13pt handicapp
     
    Vikings+2.5 110...win
    Eagles-2  110...win
    Steelers+2.5 110...win
    Giants-1.5 110...win
     
    risk:5units
    to win:4.5.......won+4.5units
     
    NYG&PHI / twin ML   5units...win
     
    MINN / ML  5units...win
     
    CAR / ML   5units...win
     
     
    SN
     
    FINAL RESULTS:
    7-0
    units:+19.5
     
     
    NFL 09' thru week 5
    units: +38.5 sN
     
     

    Well done SN.  Anyone would be proud with a 4-0 week.

    I do want to point out however that in all of your previous posts you have been stating ML favorites in terms of the amount of units to risk, however this week on your MLs you are claiming +15 units on three wagers of 5 units.  To be consistent with your previous 4 weeks you should be claiming far less than +15 units.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 3:15 PM ET #286

    I'm a little confused on this too.. previously it was always 'units risked'..

    The Giants/Eagles parley pick didn't make any sense to me either.. the combined odds on that 2-teamer would have had to risk like 50 Units to win 5.. or risk 5 to win .5

    Either way, it was a good day. It was yet another easy week picking NFL games.. you gotta think a correction is going to come over the next 2 weeks. Favorites are hitting at an insane clip.
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    I'm a little confused on this too.. previously it was always 'units risked'..

    The Giants/Eagles parley pick didn't make any sense to me either.. the combined odds on that 2-teamer would have had to risk like 50 Units to win 5.. or risk 5 to win .5

    Either way, it was a good day. It was yet another easy week picking NFL games.. you gotta think a correction is going to come over the next 2 weeks. Favorites are hitting at an insane clip.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:

    I'm a little confused on this too.. previously it was always 'units risked'..

    The Giants/Eagles parley pick didn't make any sense to me either.. the combined odds on that 2-teamer would have had to risk like 50 Units to win 5.. or risk 5 to win .5

    Either way, it was a good day. It was yet another easy week picking NFL games.. you gotta think a correction is going to come over the next 2 weeks. Favorites are hitting at an insane clip.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:

    I'm a little confused on this too.. previously it was always 'units risked'..

    The Giants/Eagles parley pick didn't make any sense to me either.. the combined odds on that 2-teamer would have had to risk like 50 Units to win 5.. or risk 5 to win .5

    Either way, it was a good day. It was yet another easy week picking NFL games.. you gotta think a correction is going to come over the next 2 weeks. Favorites are hitting at an insane clip.


    you're right, i missed that...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 6:59 PM ET #288

    please tell me you hadnt really missed this "anomoly" in book keeping. nice picks, but dont believe the #s. those early ml loses were calculated as units wagered equalling units lost, now this??
     
    oh well no sketchier than aig, bookeeping and they dont pick any winners
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    please tell me you hadnt really missed this "anomoly" in book keeping. nice picks, but dont believe the #s. those early ml loses were calculated as units wagered equalling units lost, now this??
     
    oh well no sketchier than aig, bookeeping and they dont pick any winners
     
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    all of you questioning SN need to remember that when he was listing the "amount risked" it was always to win an even number of units like 3.4 to win 2 or 5.8 to win 1.

    i do agree that he changed it up a little bit, but the pattern is not there to show that he initially meant amount risked and then when the games won he changed them to amount to win.

    needless to say, you guys need to shut the bleep up because this guy has been free money since baseball season and I'd hate for him to stop posting because you guys wanted to argue over such small details.

    he won the games didn't he??
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    all of you questioning SN need to remember that when he was listing the "amount risked" it was always to win an even number of units like 3.4 to win 2 or 5.8 to win 1.

    i do agree that he changed it up a little bit, but the pattern is not there to show that he initially meant amount risked and then when the games won he changed them to amount to win.

    needless to say, you guys need to shut the bleep up because this guy has been free money since baseball season and I'd hate for him to stop posting because you guys wanted to argue over such small details.

    he won the games didn't he??
     
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    I would agree with hoop121.  I think most of us are capable of taking SN's unit amounts which would indicate his strength of the game, and putting our our own money mgmt to it.  If your season totals differ somewhat, fine.  We all know no one is forced to track or follow anyone on this website.  As I think perhaps SN has stated, if he wanted to get deep into money management he'd start a different thread about that and I imagine many of us would read that as well.  If anyone else is like me, money management and discipline isn't the problem, it is having the skill and time-committment necessary to be on the right side at a high enough percentage.  That's why I'm here. Incorporating film study into NFL handicapping is a fascinating thing. 
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    I would agree with hoop121.  I think most of us are capable of taking SN's unit amounts which would indicate his strength of the game, and putting our our own money mgmt to it.  If your season totals differ somewhat, fine.  We all know no one is forced to track or follow anyone on this website.  As I think perhaps SN has stated, if he wanted to get deep into money management he'd start a different thread about that and I imagine many of us would read that as well.  If anyone else is like me, money management and discipline isn't the problem, it is having the skill and time-committment necessary to be on the right side at a high enough percentage.  That's why I'm here. Incorporating film study into NFL handicapping is a fascinating thing. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter13:

    I would agree with hoop121.  I think most of us are capable of taking SN's unit amounts which would indicate his strength of the game, and putting our our own money mgmt to it.  If your season totals differ somewhat, fine.  We all know no one is forced to track or follow anyone on this website.  As I think perhaps SN has stated, if he wanted to get deep into money management he'd start a different thread about that and I imagine many of us would read that as well.  If anyone else is like me, money management and discipline isn't the problem, it is having the skill and time-committment necessary to be on the right side at a high enough percentage.  That's why I'm here. Incorporating film study into NFL handicapping is a fascinating thing. 


    Your damn right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter13:

    I would agree with hoop121.  I think most of us are capable of taking SN's unit amounts which would indicate his strength of the game, and putting our our own money mgmt to it.  If your season totals differ somewhat, fine.  We all know no one is forced to track or follow anyone on this website.  As I think perhaps SN has stated, if he wanted to get deep into money management he'd start a different thread about that and I imagine many of us would read that as well.  If anyone else is like me, money management and discipline isn't the problem, it is having the skill and time-committment necessary to be on the right side at a high enough percentage.  That's why I'm here. Incorporating film study into NFL handicapping is a fascinating thing. 


    Your damn right!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 1:33 AM ET #292

    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:

    I'm a little confused on this too.. previously it was always 'units risked'..

    The Giants/Eagles parley pick didn't make any sense to me either.. the combined odds on that 2-teamer would have had to risk like 50 Units to win 5.. or risk 5 to win .5

    Either way, it was a good day. It was yet another easy week picking NFL games.. you gotta think a correction is going to come over the next 2 weeks. Favorites are hitting at an insane clip.


    I wasn't 'hatin', I have high respect for SN and have always defended him in the past. I've even been accused of defending him too much.

    I was more asking about the Giants/Eagles Parley, if he was really risking around 50 Units to win 5. Just wanted a clarification of that play. It was about as solid of a lock as they come.
    I parleyed the Giants/Eagles/Steelers myself. The odds sucked, but it was pretty easy money.


    Keep up the solid work SN, looking forward to a tougher Week 6! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:

    I'm a little confused on this too.. previously it was always 'units risked'..

    The Giants/Eagles parley pick didn't make any sense to me either.. the combined odds on that 2-teamer would have had to risk like 50 Units to win 5.. or risk 5 to win .5

    Either way, it was a good day. It was yet another easy week picking NFL games.. you gotta think a correction is going to come over the next 2 weeks. Favorites are hitting at an insane clip.


    I wasn't 'hatin', I have high respect for SN and have always defended him in the past. I've even been accused of defending him too much.

    I was more asking about the Giants/Eagles Parley, if he was really risking around 50 Units to win 5. Just wanted a clarification of that play. It was about as solid of a lock as they come.
    I parleyed the Giants/Eagles/Steelers myself. The odds sucked, but it was pretty easy money.


    Keep up the solid work SN, looking forward to a tougher Week 6! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 6:58 AM ET #293

    Quote Originally Posted by UsaSurfer:

    Well done SN.  Anyone would be proud with a 4-0 week.

    I do want to point out however that in all of your previous posts you have been stating ML favorites in terms of the amount of units to risk, however this week on your MLs you are claiming +15 units on three wagers of 5 units.  To be consistent with your previous 4 weeks you should be claiming far less than +15 units.

    Their is nothing 'consistent' in my plays; in any sport I CHOOSE TO CAPP..your commentary comes from your imagination, and the transparent description you attach to your envious issues regarding handicapping the NFL..I RECOMMEND to you, and other "pure novices" / in-experienced cappers with no developed form, a) learn to 'read' a release sheet(final results included)     b) understand the objective of this thread is documentation, not impression, accept it, don't even try to challenge success, you will only embarass your screen name in your un-successful attempt.(as you clearly indicated; I went 4-0 instead of the correct 7-0) of course I UNDERSTAND the calculated reply(as stated above, there obvious) being frustrated, and having no MM application skills; does not warrant this type of commentary, simply because it's documented in advance, and your statements have NO foundation to stand on, other than to attract attention to yourself...

    This is not only directed at you Surfer, but at those who fall into the same irritating category of mis-conception, and pure downright ignorance. ask yourself, What is the label of a person who degrades DOCUMENTED success? are they "mentally impaired"...or simply Idiots? or..are they followers of  the "Martha Stewart" approach to NFL handicapping.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by UsaSurfer:

    Well done SN.  Anyone would be proud with a 4-0 week.

    I do want to point out however that in all of your previous posts you have been stating ML favorites in terms of the amount of units to risk, however this week on your MLs you are claiming +15 units on three wagers of 5 units.  To be consistent with your previous 4 weeks you should be claiming far less than +15 units.

    Their is nothing 'consistent' in my plays; in any sport I CHOOSE TO CAPP..your commentary comes from your imagination, and the transparent description you attach to your envious issues regarding handicapping the NFL..I RECOMMEND to you, and other "pure novices" / in-experienced cappers with no developed form, a) learn to 'read' a release sheet(final results included)     b) understand the objective of this thread is documentation, not impression, accept it, don't even try to challenge success, you will only embarass your screen name in your un-successful attempt.(as you clearly indicated; I went 4-0 instead of the correct 7-0) of course I UNDERSTAND the calculated reply(as stated above, there obvious) being frustrated, and having no MM application skills; does not warrant this type of commentary, simply because it's documented in advance, and your statements have NO foundation to stand on, other than to attract attention to yourself...

    This is not only directed at you Surfer, but at those who fall into the same irritating category of mis-conception, and pure downright ignorance. ask yourself, What is the label of a person who degrades DOCUMENTED success? are they "mentally impaired"...or simply Idiots? or..are they followers of  the "Martha Stewart" approach to NFL handicapping.......

    SN

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter13:

    I would agree with hoop121.  I think most of us are capable of taking SN's unit amounts which would indicate his strength of the game, and putting our our own money mgmt to it.  If your season totals differ somewhat, fine.  We all know no one is forced to track or follow anyone on this website.  As I think perhaps SN has stated, if he wanted to get deep into money management he'd start a different thread about that and I imagine many of us would read that as well.  If anyone else is like me, money management and discipline isn't the problem, it is having the skill and time-committment necessary to be on the right side at a high enough percentage.  That's why I'm here. Incorporating film study into NFL handicapping is a fascinating thing. 

    YES! incorporating film with Matchup_Performance is not only advantagious, but exciting, and brings new horizon's to advanced form..may you prosper always

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    I would agree with hoop121.  I think most of us are capable of taking SN's unit amounts which would indicate his strength of the game, and putting our our own money mgmt to it.  If your season totals differ somewhat, fine.  We all know no one is forced to track or follow anyone on this website.  As I think perhaps SN has stated, if he wanted to get deep into money management he'd start a different thread about that and I imagine many of us would read that as well.  If anyone else is like me, money management and discipline isn't the problem, it is having the skill and time-committment necessary to be on the right side at a high enough percentage.  That's why I'm here. Incorporating film study into NFL handicapping is a fascinating thing. 

    YES! incorporating film with Matchup_Performance is not only advantagious, but exciting, and brings new horizon's to advanced form..may you prosper always

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 7:20 AM ET #295

    Quote Originally Posted by 53percent:

    please tell me you hadnt really missed this "anomoly" in book keeping. nice picks, but dont believe the #s. those early ml loses were calculated as units wagered equalling units lost, now this??
     
    oh well no sketchier than aig, bookeeping and they dont pick any winners

    little do you understand, as in all previous threads(NHL NBA MLB) I also document my "wager tickets" connected to the 'book'  in which they were made... sketchier? the only thing "sketchy" is your whim to be heard.........

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    please tell me you hadnt really missed this "anomoly" in book keeping. nice picks, but dont believe the #s. those early ml loses were calculated as units wagered equalling units lost, now this??
     
    oh well no sketchier than aig, bookeeping and they dont pick any winners

    little do you understand, as in all previous threads(NHL NBA MLB) I also document my "wager tickets" connected to the 'book'  in which they were made... sketchier? the only thing "sketchy" is your whim to be heard.........

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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2009 - 7:31 AM ET #298

    Quote Originally Posted by sheriff:

    Hi What is the payoff for a 4 team 13 point teaser play at a sports book Thanks

    As indicated on the Release Sheet, wager 5.00 win 4.50 (this will vary slightly by individual 'book')

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    Hi What is the payoff for a 4 team 13 point teaser play at a sports book Thanks

    As indicated on the Release Sheet, wager 5.00 win 4.50 (this will vary slightly by individual 'book')

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBob:

    Nice work SN. Anyone! What online offers 13 pt TZRs?

    Broadway, all Books who offer NFL wagering, offer 13pt capps, if not, look for a 'real' book.....

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    Nice work SN. Anyone! What online offers 13 pt TZRs?

    Broadway, all Books who offer NFL wagering, offer 13pt capps, if not, look for a 'real' book.....

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