Posted:
#126
Does anyone have the numbers on how many B and C bets come up in a
complete season for all JM's system plays for NHL, NBA, MLB and NFL?
Just an approx. Number?
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Modified Morrison NHL System
Posted:
#127
Ok guys........... Can't wait til the pucks drop - how bout ya'll..............
The books are gonna get hit hard and they don't know it.........
Hahahaha................
A variation of what we got going on here is this
What do you all think????????
To give credit where its do I copied and pasted it by Mcbain at SBR
I posted about this possible NHL system in the NBA thread where we have been following the Morrison NBA system and I suggested it might work for hockey.
Good and bad news so far after going through this season's data in the NHL, looking for a possible any 3-game road trip A-B-C series betting system.
This season so far if one was to bet every visiting team heading out on a 3 game road trip (and split 6-game trip into two bets) on a straight moneyline bet record would be:
76 A wins
43 B wins
17 C wins
for 136 total wins which sounds nice.
However, you would encounter, if you bet moneyline with no filters:
27 losses
Your record is 136-27 and with series betting you are down for the season.
So with those numbers we have no system.
HOWEVER, if we bet the +1.5 line on all our road teams (when available and looking at the games only one team would have been favored on the road, DET), we would see
22 of those losses turn to wins
as there was at least one game in the series where our team lost by 1 goal.
Further, if we eliminated playing teams in the second 3 of a 6-game roadie, we could eiminate another
3 losses (and one of those was DET)
So we are down to 2 outright losses
The last filter that we could apply would be to elminate betting on the teams with the 5 worst road records (or 4 or 3, something like that).
That would eliminate another loss as OTT would not have been a play.
That would leave us with ONE outright loss, Carolina series starting on Jan. 8 of this year.
So applying a +1.5 betting strategy, skip the second 3 games of the long trips, don't bet on the absolute worst road teams, you could come up with a record of
145-1
(the original 136 wins plus the 22 gained by betting +1.5, take off 13 wins by skipping second set of 3 on 6-game trips and taking off the losses that simply would not have been bet.)
Is that clear to everyone? I'm sure not.
Anyway, that's all I've got. If this would work for previous seasons I am not sure yet but I invite anyone to take a look.
So there it is........
Again I am down for what's in the wings and much appriciative for Kong Bringing this to light........
Just figure I'd throw this on the wall and see if it sticks............
Let's rock guys..... See ya on the other side
The books are gonna get hit hard and they don't know it.........
Hahahaha................
A variation of what we got going on here is this
What do you all think????????
To give credit where its do I copied and pasted it by Mcbain at SBR
I posted about this possible NHL system in the NBA thread where we have been following the Morrison NBA system and I suggested it might work for hockey.
Good and bad news so far after going through this season's data in the NHL, looking for a possible any 3-game road trip A-B-C series betting system.
This season so far if one was to bet every visiting team heading out on a 3 game road trip (and split 6-game trip into two bets) on a straight moneyline bet record would be:
76 A wins
43 B wins
17 C wins
for 136 total wins which sounds nice.
However, you would encounter, if you bet moneyline with no filters:
27 losses
Your record is 136-27 and with series betting you are down for the season.
So with those numbers we have no system.
HOWEVER, if we bet the +1.5 line on all our road teams (when available and looking at the games only one team would have been favored on the road, DET), we would see
22 of those losses turn to wins
as there was at least one game in the series where our team lost by 1 goal.
Further, if we eliminated playing teams in the second 3 of a 6-game roadie, we could eiminate another
3 losses (and one of those was DET)
So we are down to 2 outright losses
The last filter that we could apply would be to elminate betting on the teams with the 5 worst road records (or 4 or 3, something like that).
That would eliminate another loss as OTT would not have been a play.
That would leave us with ONE outright loss, Carolina series starting on Jan. 8 of this year.
So applying a +1.5 betting strategy, skip the second 3 games of the long trips, don't bet on the absolute worst road teams, you could come up with a record of
145-1
(the original 136 wins plus the 22 gained by betting +1.5, take off 13 wins by skipping second set of 3 on 6-game trips and taking off the losses that simply would not have been bet.)
Is that clear to everyone? I'm sure not.
Anyway, that's all I've got. If this would work for previous seasons I am not sure yet but I invite anyone to take a look.
So there it is........
Again I am down for what's in the wings and much appriciative for Kong Bringing this to light........
Just figure I'd throw this on the wall and see if it sticks............
Let's rock guys..... See ya on the other side
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Posted:
#128
MCBAIN NHL SYSTEM RULES:
(the 1st post of this thread tells you everything you need to know)
It is very simple. We bet NHL road teams when they go on road trips of at least 3 games. When the team is the favorite, bet moneyline. When the team is the underdog, bet puckline +1.5.
Make A bet, if it loses bet B so you still profit, if it loses bet C so you still profit on the entire series.
Using these filters should work for 09-10:
1. don't play first series of season or last for any team
2. don't play second series of 3 on any road trip
3. play +1.5 whenever available
4. eliminate teams with losing road records once at least 25 games have been played. (At start of year, could use road records from last season but that is iffy).
possible 5. do not play against top 2-3 RPI teams when they are at home
Again......... More copying and stuff
If this might help us........... Cool
If not.......... I understand - no need to reinvent the wheel
Thanks Kong..............
(the 1st post of this thread tells you everything you need to know)
It is very simple. We bet NHL road teams when they go on road trips of at least 3 games. When the team is the favorite, bet moneyline. When the team is the underdog, bet puckline +1.5.
Make A bet, if it loses bet B so you still profit, if it loses bet C so you still profit on the entire series.
Using these filters should work for 09-10:
1. don't play first series of season or last for any team
2. don't play second series of 3 on any road trip
3. play +1.5 whenever available
4. eliminate teams with losing road records once at least 25 games have been played. (At start of year, could use road records from last season but that is iffy).
possible 5. do not play against top 2-3 RPI teams when they are at home
Again......... More copying and stuff
If this might help us........... Cool
If not.......... I understand - no need to reinvent the wheel
Thanks Kong..............
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Posted:
#129
NJ - NOV 16, MAR 2
NYR - NOV 3, JAN 30
NYI - JAN 6, MAR 16
PHI - NOV 18, FEB 1, MAR 14
PIT - NOV3, JAN 9
BOS - JAN 13
BUF - NONE
MON - MAR 2
OTW - NOV 28, MAR 9
TOR - OCT 24, DEC 27
ATL - FEB 10
CAR - FEB 1
FLA - MAR 9
TB - NOV 16, DEC 11
WAS - DEC 12
CHI - NONE
CLB - JAN 19
DET - NONE
NAS - OCT 17, FEB 9
STL - JAN 18
CAL - NOV 10, FEB 5, MAR 25
COL - NOV 30, JAN 8
EDM - NOV 8, MAR 11
MIN - NOV 10
VAN - DEC 2, JAN30
ANH - OCT 6
DAL - JAN 10, MAR 6
LAK - OCT 10, NOV 9
PHO - OCT 3, MAR 13
SJ - OCT 15
NYR - NOV 3, JAN 30
NYI - JAN 6, MAR 16
PHI - NOV 18, FEB 1, MAR 14
PIT - NOV3, JAN 9
BOS - JAN 13
BUF - NONE
MON - MAR 2
OTW - NOV 28, MAR 9
TOR - OCT 24, DEC 27
ATL - FEB 10
CAR - FEB 1
FLA - MAR 9
TB - NOV 16, DEC 11
WAS - DEC 12
CHI - NONE
CLB - JAN 19
DET - NONE
NAS - OCT 17, FEB 9
STL - JAN 18
CAL - NOV 10, FEB 5, MAR 25
COL - NOV 30, JAN 8
EDM - NOV 8, MAR 11
MIN - NOV 10
VAN - DEC 2, JAN30
ANH - OCT 6
DAL - JAN 10, MAR 6
LAK - OCT 10, NOV 9
PHO - OCT 3, MAR 13
SJ - OCT 15
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Posted:
#132
Hanjoon, what JM says is for you to buy his system because you are too dumb or impatient to READ A THREAD FROM THE BEGINNING AND TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE READING to figure out how the systems work and when the 1st wagers are.
You are like the guy in college who never came to class all semester, then shows up to the final exam and asks people if you can borrow a #2 pencil and their calculator.
Buy the damn systems so you have the instructions and JM will email you the picks as they come up.
Even then, I still don't think you will understand what to do.
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Posted:
#133
Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:
nolemanasses take it easy on him, after reading his posts I came to the conclusion that he has no fuckin clue what to do and he's probably just a kid, to prove it I went ahead and used my webcam to get a picture of him and this is what I got- Hanjoon, what JM says is for you to buy his system because you are too dumb or impatient to READ A THREAD FROM THE BEGINNING AND TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE READING to figure out how the systems work and when the 1st wagers are.
You are like the guy in college who never came to class all semester, then shows up to the final exam and asks people if you can borrow a #2 pencil and their calculator.
Buy the damn systems so you have the instructions and JM will email you the picks as they come up.
Even then, I still don't think you will understand what to do.
. I rest my case!...lol
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Posted:
#134
Quote Originally Posted by glen30:
nolemanasses take it easy on him, after reading his posts I came to the conclusion that he has no fuckin clue what to do and he's probably just a kid, to prove it I went ahead and used my webcam to get a picture of him and this is what I got-. I rest my case!...lol
yea, that guy is going to get buried, if he would just read a little bit before he asks stupid questions. Im sure after you tell him who to bet, he'll probably ask you where and how do you make bets. I've been reading different forum for a few years and this guy is really fucked up. Hey, when I bored and want a laugh I'll look for his posts. gl
nolemanasses take it easy on him, after reading his posts I came to the conclusion that he has no fuckin clue what to do and he's probably just a kid, to prove it I went ahead and used my webcam to get a picture of him and this is what I got-
. I rest my case!...lol 0
Posted:
#135
Sorry Glen, here's some more hanjoonisms:
You are like the guy that calls customer service for the new computer he bought because he can't find the 'ANY' key after the screen prompted him to press 'ANY' key to continue.
You are like the ticket sales lady in Tommy Boy that offers a ticket coming back from chicago next week, when they are trying to go to chicago today. Then says "I don't think so?" when asked by Richard "Hi, I'm Earth, have we met?"
Please stop posting in the strategies forums. You are driving people crazy.
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Posted:
#136
Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:
nice, he's the guy out in left field and the game didnt start, put me in coach im ready to play, Sorry Glen, here's some more hanjoonisms:
You are like the guy that calls customer service for the new computer he bought because he can't find the 'ANY' key after the screen prompted him to press 'ANY' key to continue.
You are like the ticket sales lady in Tommy Boy that offers a ticket coming back from chicago next week, when they are trying to go to chicago today. Then says "I don't think so?" when asked by Richard "Hi, I'm Earth, have we met?"
Please stop posting in the strategies forums. You are driving people crazy.
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Posted:
#138
So I have a question about this if someone can clarify. It is our goal to win 1 unit off of each 3 game away series in either the A or B game? So if we were to win our unit on the A game we stop and move to the next play and dont touch the B game correct? If we were to lose the A game we will chase to the B game. If we lose the B game we are done w/ that particular series but we move our increased unit size to the next play? Thanks
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Posted:
#139
Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:
Sorry Glen, here's some more hanjoonisms:
You are like the guy that calls customer service for the new computer he bought because he can't find the 'ANY' key after the screen prompted him to press 'ANY' key to continue.
You are like the ticket sales lady in Tommy Boy that offers a ticket coming back from chicago next week, when they are trying to go to chicago today. Then says "I don't think so?"
when asked by Richard "Hi, I'm Earth, have we met?"
when asked by Richard "Hi, I'm Earth, have we met?"
Please stop posting in the strategies forums. You are driving people crazy.
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Posted:
#140
Quote Originally Posted by cdmop:
So I have a question about this if someone can clarify. It is our goal to win 1 unit off of each 3 game away series in either the A or B game? So if we were to win our unit on the A game we stop and move to the next play and dont touch the B game correct? If we were to lose the A game we will chase to the B game. If we lose the B game we are done w/ that particular series but we move our increased unit size to the next play? Thanks
So I have a question about this if someone can clarify. It is our goal to win 1 unit off of each 3 game away series in either the A or B game? So if we were to win our unit on the A game we stop and move to the next play and dont touch the B game correct? If we were to lose the A game we will chase to the B game. If we lose the B game we are done w/ that particular series but we move our increased unit size to the next play? Thanks
i have the same question. im guessing we move it over to the next A bet. Can somebody clarify?
Also, im new to labouchere. can somebody post a scenario of how the lines would look after an A loss and also after a B loss?
it would really be appreciated.
ps lines are up now and pinny has MON PL +1.5 @ -255 and SJ ML @ -172.
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Posted:
#142
CD, you have it right kinda. You don't want to chase with game B, because it will really put you behind if B loses b/c the lines are SO HIGH with hockey.
So, let's say you bet 170 to win 100 on the A game. If it loses, and B game is the same at -170, you now have to lay 459 to win 270 (the 170 you lost on A game plus the 100 you're trying to win).
If B loses, you're now down 629!
So, it is probably wiser to bet 170 to win 100 on A game. If it loses you bet 170 to win 100 on B game. If B loses, you are down 340 instead if 629. So you have now added a loss to the A line and B line for your hockey betting.
Now you wait for your next series. For sake of easy math, lets assume the lines are again -170 to win 100. You have to decide how much you want to try and win above your original 100 profit goal, in order to recover your loss from your previous series.
I guess the conservative thing to do would be trying to win back your 170 from your previous A loss, so you need to lay 289 to win 170. If it wins, you are now back to even on your A game line. Your previous B loss is still out there though. You could make it up on the next A bet, or make it up on the next B bet you make. I personally would devote my next A game to making up that previous B loss. Would love input on others on there MM thoughts here.
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Posted:
#146
do5000, the lines from an A loss @ -170 to win 100 would look like this:
85-50-50-50-50-85. Or could look like this 50-50-50-50-170
So, the A line with the loss of 170, for conservative recovery, puts 85 on either end yielding a 170.
OR, it has 50 on one end and 170 on the other for a more aggressive recovery, which yields 220.
The confusion comes on betting to win amounts versus amounts you are betting. To me, the numbers represent the amount I am trying to win, b/c with a starting 50-50-50-50 line, the outside numbers equal 100, so I laid 170 to win that 100. This could be wrong though. maybe it should be lay 100, which would win about 60.
Clarification needed here guys. How do you do it?
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