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    lowkee00
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 11:17 AM ET #551

    Bob McCune used to make a line and say, if it's -140, i'll take the favorite, if it's +150, I will take the dog. If we knew an approximate win rate, we can further deduce when a line is more powerful than the right side.

    It could help us eliminate serious chases at high juice. thus eliminating a monster game C loss.

    Many thanks bettor2win, just trying to offer something to the table here, albeit late to the party.

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    Bob McCune used to make a line and say, if it's -140, i'll take the favorite, if it's +150, I will take the dog. If we knew an approximate win rate, we can further deduce when a line is more powerful than the right side.

    It could help us eliminate serious chases at high juice. thus eliminating a monster game C loss.

    Many thanks bettor2win, just trying to offer something to the table here, albeit late to the party.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 12:49 PM ET #552

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    98% of bettors lose, only 2% win every week in Vegas stats show. I'm sure it's not the same people either.  Well, if we are not in that loser category, we're better than most others.

    I don't tell people how much they should bet. Garbage. I don't have their bankroll and neither do they mine.

    I'm up more that 17U btw. I don't bet the same on every play/series or even game.

    I don't make spreadsheets. That's for IT guys. I know how but I got a family. Too much time.  Look back at the first post and you figure out the plays and create a spreadsheet then post it here. Only loss was w/ KC (vs MIN) this year and it had relatively low juice btw.  

    Every year I start with $100 in baseball  (I don't think gambling is a great investment. So I came up with this system). Before the DOJ took over BetEd I was up $119. I then started over @ BETDSI with another $100Play it slow and let it grow. Im now in the positive of $345. ALL FROM THIS SYSTEM. I break down the plays. Yeah, there is a high juice factor at times like there will be in PHI this weekend....But use some common sense! Don't bet a lot because the juice will KILL you if lose.

    You want a pie chart? Spreadsheet? Make one. The plays this year are all documented for you in this thread. 

    Goodluck.

    Love this post btw.

     

    Continued success my man.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    98% of bettors lose, only 2% win every week in Vegas stats show. I'm sure it's not the same people either.  Well, if we are not in that loser category, we're better than most others.

    I don't tell people how much they should bet. Garbage. I don't have their bankroll and neither do they mine.

    I'm up more that 17U btw. I don't bet the same on every play/series or even game.

    I don't make spreadsheets. That's for IT guys. I know how but I got a family. Too much time.  Look back at the first post and you figure out the plays and create a spreadsheet then post it here. Only loss was w/ KC (vs MIN) this year and it had relatively low juice btw.  

    Every year I start with $100 in baseball  (I don't think gambling is a great investment. So I came up with this system). Before the DOJ took over BetEd I was up $119. I then started over @ BETDSI with another $100Play it slow and let it grow. Im now in the positive of $345. ALL FROM THIS SYSTEM. I break down the plays. Yeah, there is a high juice factor at times like there will be in PHI this weekend....But use some common sense! Don't bet a lot because the juice will KILL you if lose.

    You want a pie chart? Spreadsheet? Make one. The plays this year are all documented for you in this thread. 

    Goodluck.

    Love this post btw.

     

    Continued success my man.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 2:34 PM ET #553

    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    Love this post btw.

     

    Continued success my man.

    I don't know why you love his post. I was trying to get some info on the system for refinement and all I get is "i don't tell people how much they should bet. Garbage." wtf does that mean?

    why even say 98% of bettors lose? i don't understand the post. I ask some simple pertinent questions and get hit back by an assinine post. that's garbage.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jw11:

    Love this post btw.

     

    Continued success my man.

    I don't know why you love his post. I was trying to get some info on the system for refinement and all I get is "i don't tell people how much they should bet. Garbage." wtf does that mean?

    why even say 98% of bettors lose? i don't understand the post. I ask some simple pertinent questions and get hit back by an assinine post. that's garbage.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 5:37 PM ET #554

    Well, I think it would be a lot of work, but if you really want to...

    All the picks for this season can be found in this thread.  As for the lines for each game, you can look that up at vegasinsider.com. 

    I can't really see it being worth such an investment of time and effort though.  It's not like you can know for any particular series whether it's more likely to win on the A game, B game or C game, just that it's extremely likely to win on at least one of those games.  (49-1 = 98% so far this season).  When you win, juice doesn't matter.  Now, in spite of bettor2win's warning about high juice, it's actually seemed to me this season that, with the exception of a few series here and there (for instance, the Phillies series that just completed) the juice hasn't really been that bad.  If high juice bothers you, I think you could have avoided anything over say -170 for instance (I'm not bothering to look up every series to make sure) and probably still had the vast majority of the series available to play.

    By all means though, if you think you can come up with something that would help everybody make more money off of this system, I'd say go ahead and post it.  I for one wouldn't criticize, instead I'd appreciate the effort, even if I didn't end up using it.

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    Well, I think it would be a lot of work, but if you really want to...

    All the picks for this season can be found in this thread.  As for the lines for each game, you can look that up at vegasinsider.com. 

    I can't really see it being worth such an investment of time and effort though.  It's not like you can know for any particular series whether it's more likely to win on the A game, B game or C game, just that it's extremely likely to win on at least one of those games.  (49-1 = 98% so far this season).  When you win, juice doesn't matter.  Now, in spite of bettor2win's warning about high juice, it's actually seemed to me this season that, with the exception of a few series here and there (for instance, the Phillies series that just completed) the juice hasn't really been that bad.  If high juice bothers you, I think you could have avoided anything over say -170 for instance (I'm not bothering to look up every series to make sure) and probably still had the vast majority of the series available to play.

    By all means though, if you think you can come up with something that would help everybody make more money off of this system, I'd say go ahead and post it.  I for one wouldn't criticize, instead I'd appreciate the effort, even if I didn't end up using it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 8:19 PM ET #555

    Quote Originally Posted by lowkee00:

    I am trying to understand this system. If I am correct here, you say there is "heavy juice." What is the average line that you will be laying? I see it so far as you have 31/50 game A plays for a 62% win rate or about -161 line, B plays are 12/18 or -150 and C plays are 4/6 for -150.

    I have never used martingale or labby line and will do some research to understand them both better. However, I would like to know/see a chart with somebody's actual result betting these games. At an average of -175 and trying to win 1 unit per each "final conclusion," I see about 8 units of profit total on 74 plays, some very large dollar plays.

    At -150 avg line, I see about 17 units of profit. Again some very large "C" bets.

    I guess what I am thinking is if the average line is about -180, then this system can never be profitable and your risk of ruin could be very high.

    Anybody have a spreadsheet with every play detailed, so we can see actual results, unit and overall roi%?


    Ok, ok. everyone just take it easy. 

    I will answer all ur questions here, in order.

    IDK what the ave juice is for this years plays. One thing is almost a guarantee tho, this weekend will by FAR have the most juice.

    I dont just play for one Unit. Prob. not even this weekend because 1 or 2 wins "normally" come in game "1/A".

    The risk is "very high" if you straight martingale (double up ur bet) after 2 straight losses. 

    These teams have much better records than the teams we play against because of whatever reason: skills, management or injuries. Whatever.

    Is there a better system? Probably. But only God can calculate those odd because there are SO many variables to a system/team winning its next game. Weather, a couple players slightly ill we will NEVER hear about, moms in surgery, dad has cancer. These things add up. You ever see a team pretty good one year then the next they suck? Then the next year they are back above .500?? We all have. Im willing to bet, no  pun intended, that the players on that team had off field distractions we will never see...or could ever see. 

    So, I don't know how to make a better system @ this point.  If I could erraticate the juice I would. But one thing I know for sure, is that the good teams beat the bad teams more often than the bad teams beat the good ones.. 

    Also, I dont post Units. I just dont think its my place. The system shows u a certain team will/should win. Diff. times I bet MORE. Its up to you to decide.

    Amen brother. No hard feelings. I know theres a better system. Just can't find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowkee00:

    I am trying to understand this system. If I am correct here, you say there is "heavy juice." What is the average line that you will be laying? I see it so far as you have 31/50 game A plays for a 62% win rate or about -161 line, B plays are 12/18 or -150 and C plays are 4/6 for -150.

    I have never used martingale or labby line and will do some research to understand them both better. However, I would like to know/see a chart with somebody's actual result betting these games. At an average of -175 and trying to win 1 unit per each "final conclusion," I see about 8 units of profit total on 74 plays, some very large dollar plays.

    At -150 avg line, I see about 17 units of profit. Again some very large "C" bets.

    I guess what I am thinking is if the average line is about -180, then this system can never be profitable and your risk of ruin could be very high.

    Anybody have a spreadsheet with every play detailed, so we can see actual results, unit and overall roi%?


    Ok, ok. everyone just take it easy. 

    I will answer all ur questions here, in order.

    IDK what the ave juice is for this years plays. One thing is almost a guarantee tho, this weekend will by FAR have the most juice.

    I dont just play for one Unit. Prob. not even this weekend because 1 or 2 wins "normally" come in game "1/A".

    The risk is "very high" if you straight martingale (double up ur bet) after 2 straight losses. 

    These teams have much better records than the teams we play against because of whatever reason: skills, management or injuries. Whatever.

    Is there a better system? Probably. But only God can calculate those odd because there are SO many variables to a system/team winning its next game. Weather, a couple players slightly ill we will NEVER hear about, moms in surgery, dad has cancer. These things add up. You ever see a team pretty good one year then the next they suck? Then the next year they are back above .500?? We all have. Im willing to bet, no  pun intended, that the players on that team had off field distractions we will never see...or could ever see. 

    So, I don't know how to make a better system @ this point.  If I could erraticate the juice I would. But one thing I know for sure, is that the good teams beat the bad teams more often than the bad teams beat the good ones.. 

    Also, I dont post Units. I just dont think its my place. The system shows u a certain team will/should win. Diff. times I bet MORE. Its up to you to decide.

    Amen brother. No hard feelings. I know theres a better system. Just can't find it.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 8:52 PM ET #556

    Good news and bad news!

    Good news first. Juice isn't that bad.::::
    NYY -165
    PHI -185
    BOS -135
    TB -103 (if its a play. up 2-0 on NYY in 6th).

    Bad news!!! Starting pitchers for all four teams have not been on fire lately. Dont let that discourage you though. Pitching is what makes the juice high in the 1st place imo. Its overated. Just play the system.

    PHI has a 4 game series vs sd so hopefully PHI can win the 1st game so we can chase sd la madres again.
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    Good news and bad news!

    Good news first. Juice isn't that bad.::::
    NYY -165
    PHI -185
    BOS -135
    TB -103 (if its a play. up 2-0 on NYY in 6th).

    Bad news!!! Starting pitchers for all four teams have not been on fire lately. Dont let that discourage you though. Pitching is what makes the juice high in the 1st place imo. Its overated. Just play the system.

    PHI has a 4 game series vs sd so hopefully PHI can win the 1st game so we can chase sd la madres again.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 8:57 PM ET #557

    Quote Originally Posted by spoutbec:

    Well, I think it would be a lot of work, but if you really want to...

    All the picks for this season can be found in this thread.  As for the lines for each game, you can look that up at vegasinsider.com. 

    I can't really see it being worth such an investment of time and effort though.  It's not like you can know for any particular series whether it's more likely to win on the A game, B game or C game, just that it's extremely likely to win on at least one of those games.  (49-1 = 98% so far this season).  When you win, juice doesn't matter.  Now, in spite of bettor2win's warning about high juice, it's actually seemed to me this season that, with the exception of a few series here and there (for instance, the Phillies series that just completed) the juice hasn't really been that bad.  If high juice bothers you, I think you could have avoided anything over say -170 for instance (I'm not bothering to look up every series to make sure) and probably still had the vast majority of the series available to play.

    By all means though, if you think you can come up with something that would help everybody make more money off of this system, I'd say go ahead and post it.  I for one wouldn't criticize, instead I'd appreciate the effort, even if I didn't end up using it.

    It's not 49-1 though, you are losing 2 out of 5 in A games and 2 out of 5 in B games. So if you are doubling up, you are losing more than 1 unit on B games and a s**tload more on C games. so it's really not 49-1, it's 60%.

    At 60% winning rate, that line is exactly -150 to break even. If  you want to be more specific, I believe the odds of losing a 60% event twice is .60x.60 = 36%. so there is a 64% chance you are going to win a unit after the 2nd or B game.

    I will look back to try to put something together with line history. However, if Bettor has a list of teams on what days, that might be much faster. if not, i'll head to vegas insider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoutbec:

    Well, I think it would be a lot of work, but if you really want to...

    All the picks for this season can be found in this thread.  As for the lines for each game, you can look that up at vegasinsider.com. 

    I can't really see it being worth such an investment of time and effort though.  It's not like you can know for any particular series whether it's more likely to win on the A game, B game or C game, just that it's extremely likely to win on at least one of those games.  (49-1 = 98% so far this season).  When you win, juice doesn't matter.  Now, in spite of bettor2win's warning about high juice, it's actually seemed to me this season that, with the exception of a few series here and there (for instance, the Phillies series that just completed) the juice hasn't really been that bad.  If high juice bothers you, I think you could have avoided anything over say -170 for instance (I'm not bothering to look up every series to make sure) and probably still had the vast majority of the series available to play.

    By all means though, if you think you can come up with something that would help everybody make more money off of this system, I'd say go ahead and post it.  I for one wouldn't criticize, instead I'd appreciate the effort, even if I didn't end up using it.

    It's not 49-1 though, you are losing 2 out of 5 in A games and 2 out of 5 in B games. So if you are doubling up, you are losing more than 1 unit on B games and a s**tload more on C games. so it's really not 49-1, it's 60%.

    At 60% winning rate, that line is exactly -150 to break even. If  you want to be more specific, I believe the odds of losing a 60% event twice is .60x.60 = 36%. so there is a 64% chance you are going to win a unit after the 2nd or B game.

    I will look back to try to put something together with line history. However, if Bettor has a list of teams on what days, that might be much faster. if not, i'll head to vegas insider.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 9:03 PM ET #558

    but in reality, 45 of 50 games have won by the 2nd game, which is 90% that the team will have cashed for you before the 3rd game hits. I am not sure what that really means.

    I am not sure how to bet these games, but if you Martingale through the C games loss, that C loss could be 20 units, which is massive. Looking forward to tomorrow's plays, I'll be up late doing some research.

    Did somebody say this works for NBA?

     

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    but in reality, 45 of 50 games have won by the 2nd game, which is 90% that the team will have cashed for you before the 3rd game hits. I am not sure what that really means.

    I am not sure how to bet these games, but if you Martingale through the C games loss, that C loss could be 20 units, which is massive. Looking forward to tomorrow's plays, I'll be up late doing some research.

    Did somebody say this works for NBA?

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 9:29 PM ET #559

    bettor, you say the system was 74-1 in 2010. did you play all these games or were they just back tested?
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    bettor, you say the system was 74-1 in 2010. did you play all these games or were they just back tested?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowkee00:

    bettor, you say the system was 74-1 in 2010. did you play all these games or were they just back tested?

    Played them. Ur wrong lowkee00.  and if you are wrong and cannot understand how to double up a bet and win, by adding a few extra $$$ to the play to be in the +++ u are obviously not paying attn to basic mathmatics.

    Im done with this. Email me instead. this is sucking up junk in this post.  this is a system here, not a controvensial talk. 

    Thank you. BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowkee00:

    bettor, you say the system was 74-1 in 2010. did you play all these games or were they just back tested?

    Played them. Ur wrong lowkee00.  and if you are wrong and cannot understand how to double up a bet and win, by adding a few extra $$$ to the play to be in the +++ u are obviously not paying attn to basic mathmatics.

    Im done with this. Email me instead. this is sucking up junk in this post.  this is a system here, not a controvensial talk. 

    Thank you. BTW
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 9:50 PM ET #561

    I sent u a friend request lowkee00
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 10:08 PM ET #562

    New rule. no martingale aftr 2nd straight loss. lowekee00 has a great point.
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    New rule. no martingale aftr 2nd straight loss. lowekee00 has a great point.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 10:29 PM ET #563

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:


    Good news first. Juice isn't that bad.::::
    NYY -165
    PHI -185
    BOS -135
    TB -103 (if its a play. up 2-0 on NYY in 6th).
     

    Can I ask where you are getting the lines for the series? My book doesn't have them yet.

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    Good news first. Juice isn't that bad.::::
    NYY -165
    PHI -185
    BOS -135
    TB -103 (if its a play. up 2-0 on NYY in 6th).
     

    Can I ask where you are getting the lines for the series? My book doesn't have them yet.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebonzman:

    Can I ask where you are getting the lines for the series? My book doesn't have them yet.


    The lines god. 
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    Can I ask where you are getting the lines for the series? My book doesn't have them yet.


    The lines god. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 11:17 PM ET #566

    actually, i got the lines from covers,com. who knows if they are legit.
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    actually, i got the lines from covers,com. who knows if they are legit.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2011 - 11:35 PM ET #567

    lines are legit. just placed my bets. Take:

    PHI
    BOS
    NYY 
    TB

    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.
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    lines are legit. just placed my bets. Take:

    PHI
    BOS
    NYY 
    TB

    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.
     
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    I'm up 12 units since starting Bettor2Win's system; started July 15th with the Pittsburgh Pirates.
    Keep up the good work, and just ignore the negative posts.
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    I'm up 12 units since starting Bettor2Win's system; started July 15th with the Pittsburgh Pirates.
    Keep up the good work, and just ignore the negative posts.
     
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    Bettor, I have a question.

    You say this year you're record is 49 - 1 - 0. During our last conversation you said the Philly A game loss didn't count as a loss because Philly won both the B and C games, yet your WINS are being counted on an individual basis. Your not comparing Apples to Apples here.

    Can you explain that?

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    Bettor, I have a question.

    You say this year you're record is 49 - 1 - 0. During our last conversation you said the Philly A game loss didn't count as a loss because Philly won both the B and C games, yet your WINS are being counted on an individual basis. Your not comparing Apples to Apples here.

    Can you explain that?

     
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    It's a loss if the chase stops after 3 rounds. Philly lost "A game." You compensated for the loss+unit compensation for "B game". After they won you got your "A game loss" back and unit compensation. Thats a win. Am I following this correctly? Am I over simplifying it?
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    It's a loss if the chase stops after 3 rounds. Philly lost "A game." You compensated for the loss+unit compensation for "B game". After they won you got your "A game loss" back and unit compensation. Thats a win. Am I following this correctly? Am I over simplifying it?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:


    98% of bettors lose, only 2% win every week in Vegas stats show. I'm sure it's not the same people either.  Well, if we are not in that loser category, we're better than most others.


    Where are you getting this statistic?


    https://www.guide-to-baseball-betting.com/support-files/free_baseball_report_may_15_2011.pdf
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    98% of bettors lose, only 2% win every week in Vegas stats show. I'm sure it's not the same people either.  Well, if we are not in that loser category, we're better than most others.


    Where are you getting this statistic?


    https://www.guide-to-baseball-betting.com/support-files/free_baseball_report_may_15_2011.pdf
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 25Cent:

    It's a loss if the chase stops after 3 rounds. Philly lost "A game." You compensated for the loss+unit compensation for "B game". After they won you got your "A game loss" back and unit compensation. Thats a win. Am I following this correctly? Am I over simplifying it?


    Wait I get it. Each of those games was an individual series in which he did win all 3 series. Last week 3 series, 3 wins.

    OK, scratch that question. Glaringly obvious when I think about it!
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    It's a loss if the chase stops after 3 rounds. Philly lost "A game." You compensated for the loss+unit compensation for "B game". After they won you got your "A game loss" back and unit compensation. Thats a win. Am I following this correctly? Am I over simplifying it?


    Wait I get it. Each of those games was an individual series in which he did win all 3 series. Last week 3 series, 3 wins.

    OK, scratch that question. Glaringly obvious when I think about it!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2011 - 1:27 AM ET #573

    I'm down for 2 dimes on Boston -134.

    I can't play all 3 games and Philly's juice (-190) scares me. If Philly loses, I will double up on them the next game. I've seen Pads score big, but they travel across country and bats have been heavy in Philly. The most impressive thing about Philly is there home record of 34-15, where Pads are just below 50% on the road. Seems too easy, pitching favors Philly, even though Hamels hasn't been lighting it up.

    Philly scoring 24 points in the last 5 games while Pads have scored 37. Something seems off in this series.
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    I'm down for 2 dimes on Boston -134.

    I can't play all 3 games and Philly's juice (-190) scares me. If Philly loses, I will double up on them the next game. I've seen Pads score big, but they travel across country and bats have been heavy in Philly. The most impressive thing about Philly is there home record of 34-15, where Pads are just below 50% on the road. Seems too easy, pitching favors Philly, even though Hamels hasn't been lighting it up.

    Philly scoring 24 points in the last 5 games while Pads have scored 37. Something seems off in this series.
     
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    I've got 2 units on Philly tomorrow.  When Cole pitches, run support is big.
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    I've got 2 units on Philly tomorrow.  When Cole pitches, run support is big.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2011 - 8:12 AM ET #575

    Plays today are:

    PHI
    BOS
    NYY
    TB

    PHI has a 4 game series vs sd.
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    Plays today are:

    PHI
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    PHI has a 4 game series vs sd.
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