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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 12:10 PM ET #251

    Simply an outstanding couple of weeks, highlighted by yesterday's plays.  Well done.  As I've said before, the write-ups and notes in the spreadsheets are a huge help when I compare your picks to mine.  I appreciate the sharing.  Thanks.
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    Simply an outstanding couple of weeks, highlighted by yesterday's plays.  Well done.  As I've said before, the write-ups and notes in the spreadsheets are a huge help when I compare your picks to mine.  I appreciate the sharing.  Thanks.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 1:10 PM ET #252

    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:



    Huge RunLine Favorites went on a 32-2 run which ended about 2 weeks ago. These were not just 1 game a day, but all huge favs on all days. It was quite a tear. It only makes sense that this number would come back down to earth at some point, and a couple losing streaks of 5 or 6 games would be inevitable.
    This, I believe, is just another example of why amateurs go broke so often. They don't recognize these trends and expect to continue batting 90% throughout the season. That's just extremely unrealistic, and lazy.
    I see Philadelphia is the big Game6 tonight. Altho this is clearly not the best match-up on the board today, the odds are simply that high because of the name J.A. Happ and the team name, Philadelphia Phillies vs. New York Mets. Mike Pelfrey has dominated Philly over his career, the only team he actual has any success against.
    That being said, I have Philly on my list today, as I can't believe Philly will lose 2 in a row in New York, but I may have fallen into that trap as well.. guess we'll see.


    As far as your Unit management, that is really up to you on how you want to wager it. The RunLine plays have been very good to me tho, and should be an integral part of any successful handicapper's plays. Be careful if you increase units on the Top5, since you will almost always be paying more juice than any runline plays. I got into big trouble doing this in July. My troubles are all documented in the commentary on the spreadsheet, going back and reading the month of July may provide greater insight.

    Pre-season Chasing is tough. I think Spot Playing certain match-ups are a better option for Pre-season. I have not had any extra time whatsoever to do research for this year's NFL pre-season so I haven't played too much. I would have went 3-0 last night, but decided not to wager it since I hadn't done any research on them.
    Full card tonight, and sadly, I doubt I will be playing anything.



    Best of Luck and continued success 




    Great stuff you got going kreature.............
    My opinion even though I do agree with what you said is that the lines starting around 2 weeks ago or so this time of year get very juicy even on teams that don't deserve it or public favs off the bat therefore dictating wager behavior. What happens? A win by 1 run or a loss. So blindly taking the biggest ML fav on the RL I feel is more riskier this time to the end. And I hate how some teams Like CHW get the nod for the largest ML fav of the day some times. Just my opinion I feel strong about is playing a system just off 1 parameter will collaspe sooner or later eating up or losing units. Filters do work but this system wich I do respect maybe ccan be tweeked with however, how - don't know, can be less riskier going on losing streaks therefore keeping won units on the year. Anyway though I used it earlier but not now because of this. Good luck to all who are still on the train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:



    Huge RunLine Favorites went on a 32-2 run which ended about 2 weeks ago. These were not just 1 game a day, but all huge favs on all days. It was quite a tear. It only makes sense that this number would come back down to earth at some point, and a couple losing streaks of 5 or 6 games would be inevitable.
    This, I believe, is just another example of why amateurs go broke so often. They don't recognize these trends and expect to continue batting 90% throughout the season. That's just extremely unrealistic, and lazy.
    I see Philadelphia is the big Game6 tonight. Altho this is clearly not the best match-up on the board today, the odds are simply that high because of the name J.A. Happ and the team name, Philadelphia Phillies vs. New York Mets. Mike Pelfrey has dominated Philly over his career, the only team he actual has any success against.
    That being said, I have Philly on my list today, as I can't believe Philly will lose 2 in a row in New York, but I may have fallen into that trap as well.. guess we'll see.


    As far as your Unit management, that is really up to you on how you want to wager it. The RunLine plays have been very good to me tho, and should be an integral part of any successful handicapper's plays. Be careful if you increase units on the Top5, since you will almost always be paying more juice than any runline plays. I got into big trouble doing this in July. My troubles are all documented in the commentary on the spreadsheet, going back and reading the month of July may provide greater insight.

    Pre-season Chasing is tough. I think Spot Playing certain match-ups are a better option for Pre-season. I have not had any extra time whatsoever to do research for this year's NFL pre-season so I haven't played too much. I would have went 3-0 last night, but decided not to wager it since I hadn't done any research on them.
    Full card tonight, and sadly, I doubt I will be playing anything.



    Best of Luck and continued success 




    Great stuff you got going kreature.............
    My opinion even though I do agree with what you said is that the lines starting around 2 weeks ago or so this time of year get very juicy even on teams that don't deserve it or public favs off the bat therefore dictating wager behavior. What happens? A win by 1 run or a loss. So blindly taking the biggest ML fav on the RL I feel is more riskier this time to the end. And I hate how some teams Like CHW get the nod for the largest ML fav of the day some times. Just my opinion I feel strong about is playing a system just off 1 parameter will collaspe sooner or later eating up or losing units. Filters do work but this system wich I do respect maybe ccan be tweeked with however, how - don't know, can be less riskier going on losing streaks therefore keeping won units on the year. Anyway though I used it earlier but not now because of this. Good luck to all who are still on the train.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 3:37 PM ET #253

    MontanaMax raises a valid point here, and after reading your notes on your spreadsheet, I offer this opinion for what it's worth:  You're up 60 units on the RL Blitz in 3-1/2 months playing "conservatively" in your words.  It's supposed to be conservative.  Think investment, not rollercoaster thrill ride.  I worry when a guy on a great roll decides to up the dollars per unit.  But, on the other hand, your bankroll has increased to the point where it probably is time to take a look at the doolars per unit.  It will be interesting to see how you play it.  Good luck.
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    MontanaMax raises a valid point here, and after reading your notes on your spreadsheet, I offer this opinion for what it's worth:  You're up 60 units on the RL Blitz in 3-1/2 months playing "conservatively" in your words.  It's supposed to be conservative.  Think investment, not rollercoaster thrill ride.  I worry when a guy on a great roll decides to up the dollars per unit.  But, on the other hand, your bankroll has increased to the point where it probably is time to take a look at the doolars per unit.  It will be interesting to see how you play it.  Good luck.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 3:39 PM ET #254

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    "...doolars per unit."  Hmmmm, some new currency, no doubt.
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    "...doolars per unit."  Hmmmm, some new currency, no doubt.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 4:37 PM ET #255

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:





    Great stuff you got going kreature.............
    My opinion even though I do agree with what you said is that the lines starting around 2 weeks ago or so this time of year get very juicy even on teams that don't deserve it or public favs off the bat therefore dictating wager behavior. What happens? A win by 1 run or a loss. So blindly taking the biggest ML fav on the RL I feel is more riskier this time to the end. And I hate how some teams Like CHW get the nod for the largest ML fav of the day some times. Just my opinion I feel strong about is playing a system just off 1 parameter will collaspe sooner or later eating up or losing units. Filters do work but this system wich I do respect maybe ccan be tweeked with however, how - don't know, can be less riskier going on losing streaks therefore keeping won units on the year. Anyway though I used it earlier but not now because of this. Good luck to all who are still on the train.


    I completely agree, it seems that the biggest favs now have less to do with match-ups and more to do with the higher record teams playing a low record team.
    Another example today, with the White Sox. Mark Buehrle has not been very good lately and the Orioles matched up pretty well against him. There's no way that game should have been at that high of a line.
    I agree, playing the biggest fav on the board may not be the wisest thing down the stretch, I wonder if prof8t has any numbers from past Septembers? I guess it wouldn't take that long to look, maybe I will do that later.

    For myself tho, I will continue to play it the way I have been, cappin' games 1 by 1 and finding strong plays and good value.

    Cheers 
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    Great stuff you got going kreature.............
    My opinion even though I do agree with what you said is that the lines starting around 2 weeks ago or so this time of year get very juicy even on teams that don't deserve it or public favs off the bat therefore dictating wager behavior. What happens? A win by 1 run or a loss. So blindly taking the biggest ML fav on the RL I feel is more riskier this time to the end. And I hate how some teams Like CHW get the nod for the largest ML fav of the day some times. Just my opinion I feel strong about is playing a system just off 1 parameter will collaspe sooner or later eating up or losing units. Filters do work but this system wich I do respect maybe ccan be tweeked with however, how - don't know, can be less riskier going on losing streaks therefore keeping won units on the year. Anyway though I used it earlier but not now because of this. Good luck to all who are still on the train.


    I completely agree, it seems that the biggest favs now have less to do with match-ups and more to do with the higher record teams playing a low record team.
    Another example today, with the White Sox. Mark Buehrle has not been very good lately and the Orioles matched up pretty well against him. There's no way that game should have been at that high of a line.
    I agree, playing the biggest fav on the board may not be the wisest thing down the stretch, I wonder if prof8t has any numbers from past Septembers? I guess it wouldn't take that long to look, maybe I will do that later.

    For myself tho, I will continue to play it the way I have been, cappin' games 1 by 1 and finding strong plays and good value.

    Cheers 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 4:56 PM ET #256

    Quote Originally Posted by Budman717:

    MontanaMax raises a valid point here, and after reading your notes on your spreadsheet, I offer this opinion for what it's worth:  You're up 60 units on the RL Blitz in 3-1/2 months playing "conservatively" in your words.  It's supposed to be conservative.  Think investment, not rollercoaster thrill ride.  I worry when a guy on a great roll decides to up the dollars per unit.  But, on the other hand, your bankroll has increased to the point where it probably is time to take a look at the doolars per unit.  It will be interesting to see how you play it.  Good luck.


    Yes, absolutely. Going on a strong run gets one into a different frame of mind and often they "go nuts" with their pattern.

    I assure you, this is not happening to me this time. The reason I wrote that is because I am thinking of changing my game plan. Yes, the game plan has worked well to this point, but I should always be on the lookout for ways to improve the plan.
    If I continue playing the Chase style, then there definitely will not be an increase in Unit size for the time being, as right now I am at just over 1% (1.073) of my bankroll.
    If I do change things up and go with an approach like I did on Saturday, by playing single games with no intention on chasing the losses (much like the way sports_Networks does his games), then things would look like they did that day. Meaning, the strong value plays could be played to win more than just the $35 Unit. I had 4 games where I played to win $50, because the value presented itself to me. I went 3-1 on those games which certainly helped the overall final tally for the day.

    Now all that being said, I did not find many games I liked for today, so only played the one. So not all days will look like Saturday, where I had 9 plays on the board. Saturday just happened to be one of those days where there was a lot of value out there to be won.
    I wish I had played the other 3 games I felt were strong today. It would have been a nice 4-0 day as Toronto, Texas, and Cleveland all won!

    So, yes, it will be interesting to see how I decide to play it. The value which the board presents on a daily basis will most likely decide this for me.

    Thanks for the comments, always enjoy reading others opinions when they offer value to the thread.

    Cheers 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman717:

    MontanaMax raises a valid point here, and after reading your notes on your spreadsheet, I offer this opinion for what it's worth:  You're up 60 units on the RL Blitz in 3-1/2 months playing "conservatively" in your words.  It's supposed to be conservative.  Think investment, not rollercoaster thrill ride.  I worry when a guy on a great roll decides to up the dollars per unit.  But, on the other hand, your bankroll has increased to the point where it probably is time to take a look at the doolars per unit.  It will be interesting to see how you play it.  Good luck.


    Yes, absolutely. Going on a strong run gets one into a different frame of mind and often they "go nuts" with their pattern.

    I assure you, this is not happening to me this time. The reason I wrote that is because I am thinking of changing my game plan. Yes, the game plan has worked well to this point, but I should always be on the lookout for ways to improve the plan.
    If I continue playing the Chase style, then there definitely will not be an increase in Unit size for the time being, as right now I am at just over 1% (1.073) of my bankroll.
    If I do change things up and go with an approach like I did on Saturday, by playing single games with no intention on chasing the losses (much like the way sports_Networks does his games), then things would look like they did that day. Meaning, the strong value plays could be played to win more than just the $35 Unit. I had 4 games where I played to win $50, because the value presented itself to me. I went 3-1 on those games which certainly helped the overall final tally for the day.

    Now all that being said, I did not find many games I liked for today, so only played the one. So not all days will look like Saturday, where I had 9 plays on the board. Saturday just happened to be one of those days where there was a lot of value out there to be won.
    I wish I had played the other 3 games I felt were strong today. It would have been a nice 4-0 day as Toronto, Texas, and Cleveland all won!

    So, yes, it will be interesting to see how I decide to play it. The value which the board presents on a daily basis will most likely decide this for me.

    Thanks for the comments, always enjoy reading others opinions when they offer value to the thread.

    Cheers 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 6:45 PM ET #257

    kreatture thanks for the great picks!! What I was wondering is if you ever thought about chasing the biggest dog of the day at plus 1.5 since it seems the highest favorite has not been doing that well?
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    kreatture thanks for the great picks!! What I was wondering is if you ever thought about chasing the biggest dog of the day at plus 1.5 since it seems the highest favorite has not been doing that well?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 8:22 PM ET #258

    Analyzing each individual game & betting the game IF there is value in actual bet is the best way to make money on a  long term basis. Chasing games can kill you if there isn't any value in the bet of the game that you're chasing. Looking for individual game edges & betting them is long term way to make money.
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    Analyzing each individual game & betting the game IF there is value in actual bet is the best way to make money on a  long term basis. Chasing games can kill you if there isn't any value in the bet of the game that you're chasing. Looking for individual game edges & betting them is long term way to make money.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 1:22 AM ET #259

    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:



    I completely agree, it seems that the biggest favs now have less to do with match-ups and more to do with the higher record teams playing a low record team.
    Another example today, with the White Sox. Mark Buehrle has not been very good lately and the Orioles matched up pretty well against him. There's no way that game should have been at that high of a line.
    I agree, playing the biggest fav on the board may not be the wisest thing down the stretch, I wonder if prof8t has any numbers from past Septembers? I guess it wouldn't take that long to look, maybe I will do that later.

    For myself tho, I will continue to play it the way I have been, cappin' games 1 by 1 and finding strong plays and good value.

    Cheers 


    Howdy there......... Thanks........   Maybe what we can come out of this bad stretch from prof8t's system is to find out if more losing streaks occured from here on out til the end in  past seasons. After all its not really the best team or match up getting the biggest ML line therefore bating people to hedge their losses on the RL. Result being to stop the system sometime earlier then season's end saving lost units.
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    I completely agree, it seems that the biggest favs now have less to do with match-ups and more to do with the higher record teams playing a low record team.
    Another example today, with the White Sox. Mark Buehrle has not been very good lately and the Orioles matched up pretty well against him. There's no way that game should have been at that high of a line.
    I agree, playing the biggest fav on the board may not be the wisest thing down the stretch, I wonder if prof8t has any numbers from past Septembers? I guess it wouldn't take that long to look, maybe I will do that later.

    For myself tho, I will continue to play it the way I have been, cappin' games 1 by 1 and finding strong plays and good value.

    Cheers 


    Howdy there......... Thanks........   Maybe what we can come out of this bad stretch from prof8t's system is to find out if more losing streaks occured from here on out til the end in  past seasons. After all its not really the best team or match up getting the biggest ML line therefore bating people to hedge their losses on the RL. Result being to stop the system sometime earlier then season's end saving lost units.
     
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    Click on the Red Title to access each spreadsheet. From there, there are tabs at the Top Left of the screen which you can click on to access the Master Files, as well as each individual month.
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    Last week finished up strong, final tally of +18.26 which brings the Monthly total to +26.84 Units. Very encouraging after a horrific first week. Now sitting up +105.05 for the baseball system season, and +118.69 overall since the 1st of May. Hopefully things will continue to improve this week. A few big plays early on here, could set the week up nicely with some big wins tonight.



    KREATTURE'S PLAYBOOK - AUGUST 24TH, 2009


    RUNLINE BLITZ

    BALTIMORE ORIOLES   +1.5   -120   game2
    LA ANGELS   +165  


    HFOUDL

    LA ANGELS   (game1 of 3)   2 Unit Play

    passing on the kc royals this series, the worst team in the league. putting money on a 3-18 home record team since the break isn't really the smartest thing in my opinion.. putting that extra unit down on the angels series instead, a much safer option


    TOP 5 HOME TEAM

    BOSTON RED SOX  -110   (game1 of 4)   2 Unit Play
         -200 juice qualifier, play rl -1.5
         top5 home team vs. bot5 2nd half team 2 unit qualifier


    SPOT PLAY

    BALTIMORE RAVENS   -3   -115
    BALTIMORE RAVENS   -2.5   1ST HALF   -105
    NEW YORK JETS   TEAM TOTAL UNDER 15.5





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    Last week finished up strong, final tally of +18.26 which brings the Monthly total to +26.84 Units. Very encouraging after a horrific first week. Now sitting up +105.05 for the baseball system season, and +118.69 overall since the 1st of May. Hopefully things will continue to improve this week. A few big plays early on here, could set the week up nicely with some big wins tonight.



    KREATTURE'S PLAYBOOK - AUGUST 24TH, 2009


    RUNLINE BLITZ

    BALTIMORE ORIOLES   +1.5   -120   game2
    LA ANGELS   +165  


    HFOUDL

    LA ANGELS   (game1 of 3)   2 Unit Play

    passing on the kc royals this series, the worst team in the league. putting money on a 3-18 home record team since the break isn't really the smartest thing in my opinion.. putting that extra unit down on the angels series instead, a much safer option


    TOP 5 HOME TEAM

    BOSTON RED SOX  -110   (game1 of 4)   2 Unit Play
         -200 juice qualifier, play rl -1.5
         top5 home team vs. bot5 2nd half team 2 unit qualifier


    SPOT PLAY

    BALTIMORE RAVENS   -3   -115
    BALTIMORE RAVENS   -2.5   1ST HALF   -105
    NEW YORK JETS   TEAM TOTAL UNDER 15.5





    Best Of Luck 2 Everyone, and Continued Success 
     
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    No play on the Angels runline.. never got the wager in in time

    Leading everywhere else, hopefully can hang on. 
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    No play on the Angels runline.. never got the wager in in time

    Leading everywhere else, hopefully can hang on. 
     
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    Great job by Boston to clear that chase on Game1 and the Baltimore Orioles prized prospect Chris Tillman, holding the fort there for the RunLine win. Not surprised by the Angels loss, am expecting them to get the job done tonight tho.
    Well after a fairly low list of plays last week, get ready to hold onto your hat tonight, as FIVE new Top5 Home Team plays are on the schedule, and 2 new HFOUDL plays, making a total of 3 in play there (4 if you're actually chasing the Royals too).
    If anyone is following the filters I have laid out for the Top5 then you will want to pay extra attention today to the notes, as there is a double unit play as well as some high juice games which will be played on the RL instead.
    I'm skipping the movies tonight to enjoy some scoreboard watching and Madden NFL2010 on the PS3 with the roommates. Thankfully we have lotsa beer!! The Inglourious Basterds will wait til Thursday night!



    KREATTURE'S PLAYBOOK - AUGUST 25TH, 2009


    RUNLINE BLITZ

    NO PLAYS

    due to the irregular number of plays in the other two systems tonight, including some to all ready be played on the runline, there will be no plays here tonight.


    HFOUDL

    LA ANGELS   (game2 of 3)   2 Unit Play
    FLORIDA MARLINS   (game1 of 3)
    SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS   (game1 of 3)


    TOP 5 HOME TEAM

    NY YANKEES   (game1 of 3)  
         -200 juice qualifier, play rl -1.5
    SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS   (game1 of 3)
    CHICAGO CUBS   (game1 of 3)   2 Unit Play
         -200 juice qualifier, play rl -1.5
         top5 home team vs. bot5 2nd half team 2 unit qualifier
    ST. LOUIS CARDINALS   (game1 of 3)
    ATLANTA BRAVES   (game1 of 3)


    see spreadsheet for full details






    Best Of Luck 2 Everyone, and Continued Success 
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    Great job by Boston to clear that chase on Game1 and the Baltimore Orioles prized prospect Chris Tillman, holding the fort there for the RunLine win. Not surprised by the Angels loss, am expecting them to get the job done tonight tho.
    Well after a fairly low list of plays last week, get ready to hold onto your hat tonight, as FIVE new Top5 Home Team plays are on the schedule, and 2 new HFOUDL plays, making a total of 3 in play there (4 if you're actually chasing the Royals too).
    If anyone is following the filters I have laid out for the Top5 then you will want to pay extra attention today to the notes, as there is a double unit play as well as some high juice games which will be played on the RL instead.
    I'm skipping the movies tonight to enjoy some scoreboard watching and Madden NFL2010 on the PS3 with the roommates. Thankfully we have lotsa beer!! The Inglourious Basterds will wait til Thursday night!



    KREATTURE'S PLAYBOOK - AUGUST 25TH, 2009


    RUNLINE BLITZ

    NO PLAYS

    due to the irregular number of plays in the other two systems tonight, including some to all ready be played on the runline, there will be no plays here tonight.


    HFOUDL

    LA ANGELS   (game2 of 3)   2 Unit Play
    FLORIDA MARLINS   (game1 of 3)
    SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS   (game1 of 3)


    TOP 5 HOME TEAM

    NY YANKEES   (game1 of 3)  
         -200 juice qualifier, play rl -1.5
    SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS   (game1 of 3)
    CHICAGO CUBS   (game1 of 3)   2 Unit Play
         -200 juice qualifier, play rl -1.5
         top5 home team vs. bot5 2nd half team 2 unit qualifier
    ST. LOUIS CARDINALS   (game1 of 3)
    ATLANTA BRAVES   (game1 of 3)


    see spreadsheet for full details






    Best Of Luck 2 Everyone, and Continued Success 
     
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    I understand your decision to not "officially" play any runlines tonight, but I have a question on the Det/Laa game.  I'm leaning toward playing the RL in this game.  I see more value here than laying the juice on the ML.  Although it's not over -200, would you play the RL tonight if you only had 2 or 3 plays?  Another option might be to parlay it on the ML with the Cubs.  Again, your thoughts (along with anyone else) are appreciated.
     
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    I understand your decision to not "officially" play any runlines tonight, but I have a question on the Det/Laa game.  I'm leaning toward playing the RL in this game.  I see more value here than laying the juice on the ML.  Although it's not over -200, would you play the RL tonight if you only had 2 or 3 plays?  Another option might be to parlay it on the ML with the Cubs.  Again, your thoughts (along with anyone else) are appreciated.
     
    Good luck tonight.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman717:

    I understand your decision to not "officially" play any runlines tonight, but I have a question on the Det/Laa game.  I'm leaning toward playing the RL in this game.  I see more value here than laying the juice on the ML.  Although it's not over -200, would you play the RL tonight if you only had 2 or 3 plays?  Another option might be to parlay it on the ML with the Cubs.  Again, your thoughts (along with anyone else) are appreciated.
     
    Good luck tonight.


    Angels RunLine is a strong play tonight. If I was picking any RunLine games tonight it would definitely be on my list. In fact, there seems to be a lot of strong RL games tonight.. maybe I am missing the boat here tonight..?? I am going to re-examine the games and see what I think.

    No, if I only had 2 or 3 games tonight, it would not alter my decision to play the Angels on the RL instead of the ML. The Hfoudl System does not meet the -200 juice criteria like the Top5 Home Team does. The Hfoudl System will remain strictly on the ML for the remainder of the season.

    There definitely will not be any parleying of System plays. I have found this is not good money management and should not be done. Altho the chances of both teams winning is high, what happens if you split? Besides feeling like crap, it's tougher to figure out how to proceed the next day. Been there, done that, not wanting to experience again.

    Parleying, for me, is strictly for Spot Plays only.


    Best of Luck tonight, hopefully we come out the other side smelling like roses!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman717:

    I understand your decision to not "officially" play any runlines tonight, but I have a question on the Det/Laa game.  I'm leaning toward playing the RL in this game.  I see more value here than laying the juice on the ML.  Although it's not over -200, would you play the RL tonight if you only had 2 or 3 plays?  Another option might be to parlay it on the ML with the Cubs.  Again, your thoughts (along with anyone else) are appreciated.
     
    Good luck tonight.


    Angels RunLine is a strong play tonight. If I was picking any RunLine games tonight it would definitely be on my list. In fact, there seems to be a lot of strong RL games tonight.. maybe I am missing the boat here tonight..?? I am going to re-examine the games and see what I think.

    No, if I only had 2 or 3 games tonight, it would not alter my decision to play the Angels on the RL instead of the ML. The Hfoudl System does not meet the -200 juice criteria like the Top5 Home Team does. The Hfoudl System will remain strictly on the ML for the remainder of the season.

    There definitely will not be any parleying of System plays. I have found this is not good money management and should not be done. Altho the chances of both teams winning is high, what happens if you split? Besides feeling like crap, it's tougher to figure out how to proceed the next day. Been there, done that, not wanting to experience again.

    Parleying, for me, is strictly for Spot Plays only.


    Best of Luck tonight, hopefully we come out the other side smelling like roses!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 5:54 PM ET #265

    BOL tonight Kreatture!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD232:

    BOL tonight Kreatture!


    Thanks JD232 

    You as well, if you're wagering anything!
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    BOL tonight Kreatture!


    Thanks JD232 

    You as well, if you're wagering anything!
     
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    BOL tonight Kreatture

    I was taking a look at your top 5 home team system.  I really like it and think in the long run that is a system that will definitely pay off.  I looked at your spreadsheet and saw July wasn't too good of a month and your write up said it was more due to poor money management.  Anything else contribute to that?  Those are some pretty big swings from June to July and then from July to August

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    BOL tonight Kreatture

    I was taking a look at your top 5 home team system.  I really like it and think in the long run that is a system that will definitely pay off.  I looked at your spreadsheet and saw July wasn't too good of a month and your write up said it was more due to poor money management.  Anything else contribute to that?  Those are some pretty big swings from June to July and then from July to August

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankees247:

    BOL tonight Kreatture

    I was taking a look at your top 5 home team system.  I really like it and think in the long run that is a system that will definitely pay off.  I looked at your spreadsheet and saw July wasn't too good of a month and your write up said it was more due to poor money management.  Anything else contribute to that?  Those are some pretty big swings from June to July and then from July to August



    July was definitely a learning experience for myself. I got on a roll and had a +52 Unit week, a very impressive 7 day run, and got carried away with myself and ended up in over my head. I ended up increasing my Unit size from $25 to $50, $75, $100 chases which my bankroll was not equip to handle that fast. Most of this was on the Red Sox as I was really on their bandwagon and they just weren't playing that well back then. I lost most of it on them, and the rest on a couple of Tampa Bay games I thought were good plays, even tho they had all ready won the chase in game 1. Lost a few hundred of that month's loss just on 2 games there. I also screwed up by trying to parley a CFL team, BC Lions, ML with a Red Sox and Giants game to help lower the juice, since the BC game was pretty much a lock for the win I thought. It wasn't, lol.
    So that was the end of trying to parley huge favorites together as well. Good lesson to learn, altho a costly one.

    The System itself was perfect, so no, I would say there was nothing else which contributed to the $$ loss, other than my own recklessness. It went 16-0 hitting 70% on all games (16-7) for July. Pretty hard to loss your shirt with a record like that, but I managed to do so, haha. Fortunately, I still had my pants!

    I straightened myself out and finished the month strong, and haven't looked back since. August has been the most productive month yet, 17-0 for +21 Units and a per game clip of 65% (17-9). It was at 71% before going 2-3 last night.

    Overall, it has been nothing but a moneymaker if played as I have it outlined. It has outperformed the HFOUDL System overall, both on the Chase, and Individual Games Record, altho both have been very solid which is why I also play that one.

    It is something I will use next year as well, and because I have such detailed notes, I am hoping to be able to examine in depth over the off-season and make any necessary adjustments.
    I will also be using this type of System for NHL as well, and possibly the NBA.


    Thanks for taking the time to look at what I have done, I put a lot of effort into trying to make this work for myself. If others find some benefit out of this then that's a bonus. Giving back to the community here anyway I can is the least I can do, since if it wasn't for this site, I wouldn't be going down this beautiful path.


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    BOL tonight Kreatture

    I was taking a look at your top 5 home team system.  I really like it and think in the long run that is a system that will definitely pay off.  I looked at your spreadsheet and saw July wasn't too good of a month and your write up said it was more due to poor money management.  Anything else contribute to that?  Those are some pretty big swings from June to July and then from July to August



    July was definitely a learning experience for myself. I got on a roll and had a +52 Unit week, a very impressive 7 day run, and got carried away with myself and ended up in over my head. I ended up increasing my Unit size from $25 to $50, $75, $100 chases which my bankroll was not equip to handle that fast. Most of this was on the Red Sox as I was really on their bandwagon and they just weren't playing that well back then. I lost most of it on them, and the rest on a couple of Tampa Bay games I thought were good plays, even tho they had all ready won the chase in game 1. Lost a few hundred of that month's loss just on 2 games there. I also screwed up by trying to parley a CFL team, BC Lions, ML with a Red Sox and Giants game to help lower the juice, since the BC game was pretty much a lock for the win I thought. It wasn't, lol.
    So that was the end of trying to parley huge favorites together as well. Good lesson to learn, altho a costly one.

    The System itself was perfect, so no, I would say there was nothing else which contributed to the $$ loss, other than my own recklessness. It went 16-0 hitting 70% on all games (16-7) for July. Pretty hard to loss your shirt with a record like that, but I managed to do so, haha. Fortunately, I still had my pants!

    I straightened myself out and finished the month strong, and haven't looked back since. August has been the most productive month yet, 17-0 for +21 Units and a per game clip of 65% (17-9). It was at 71% before going 2-3 last night.

    Overall, it has been nothing but a moneymaker if played as I have it outlined. It has outperformed the HFOUDL System overall, both on the Chase, and Individual Games Record, altho both have been very solid which is why I also play that one.

    It is something I will use next year as well, and because I have such detailed notes, I am hoping to be able to examine in depth over the off-season and make any necessary adjustments.
    I will also be using this type of System for NHL as well, and possibly the NBA.


    Thanks for taking the time to look at what I have done, I put a lot of effort into trying to make this work for myself. If others find some benefit out of this then that's a bonus. Giving back to the community here anyway I can is the least I can do, since if it wasn't for this site, I wouldn't be going down this beautiful path.


    Cheers 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2009 - 6:08 AM ET #269

    For anyone who put in an overnight wager on the Chicago Cubs for tonight, please note the pitching change for Washington.

    "The Nationals signed Hernandez to a Major League contract on Tuesday night, six days after the Mets gave the veteran his unconditional release. Hernandez will be in the rotation and serve as a mentor for Washington's young starting pitchers. In fact, he will start against the Cubs on Wednesday night, while right-hander J.D. Martin and left-hander John Lannan will be pushed back a day and pitch on Thursday and Friday respectively."

    I haven't found a book with an updated line yet, but I would imagine it will be lower than the -280 originally posted for Harden vs. Martin.

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    For anyone who put in an overnight wager on the Chicago Cubs for tonight, please note the pitching change for Washington.

    "The Nationals signed Hernandez to a Major League contract on Tuesday night, six days after the Mets gave the veteran his unconditional release. Hernandez will be in the rotation and serve as a mentor for Washington's young starting pitchers. In fact, he will start against the Cubs on Wednesday night, while right-hander J.D. Martin and left-hander John Lannan will be pushed back a day and pitch on Thursday and Friday respectively."

    I haven't found a book with an updated line yet, but I would imagine it will be lower than the -280 originally posted for Harden vs. Martin.

     
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    Good luck on that Cubs series. I hate them. They are a heartless team. SO glad I skipped that series.
     
    Hit the Cards and Giants last night. Good luck on the braves tonight.I missed the game 1 loss, so i might pick them up tonight.
    Love the top 5 home team chase. It's the only one I've been doing for 3 weeks now. I do eliminate some series (like the Cubs) if I am uncomfortable. In fact, i am thinking about fading to lose 1 game for all their remaining series in chase format. May do the same for Toronto too.
    GL.
     
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    Good luck on that Cubs series. I hate them. They are a heartless team. SO glad I skipped that series.
     
    Hit the Cards and Giants last night. Good luck on the braves tonight.I missed the game 1 loss, so i might pick them up tonight.
    Love the top 5 home team chase. It's the only one I've been doing for 3 weeks now. I do eliminate some series (like the Cubs) if I am uncomfortable. In fact, i am thinking about fading to lose 1 game for all their remaining series in chase format. May do the same for Toronto too.
    GL.
     
     
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    I think it's a great system and I really do appreciate the spreadsheet.  It's very clear on what is going on.  I hope you keep doing it for at least the NHL as there is no doubt I will follow it.
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    I think it's a great system and I really do appreciate the spreadsheet.  It's very clear on what is going on.  I hope you keep doing it for at least the NHL as there is no doubt I will follow it.
     
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    Less than an hour before game time on the Angels.. Been tossin an turnin all mornin an afternoon, not sure how to wager this..

    It doesn't look like a great match-up on paper, but that is paper and that is why they play the games. Jackson has been pitching worse and worse as the season goes on and giving up more and more home runs. He still has a low ERA tho because he's been very lucky to avoid the big inning and has been getting out of a lot of trouble spots every game lately. You have to think that his "luck" is going to run out sooner than later, and an afternoon game in Anaheim could be the place.

    Central team playing at 1pm on the West coast.. 11am their time. I don't think the record of those teams fares too good.
    Joe Saunders was brilliant last season, but clearly not right this year. Will the 2 weeks off on the DL right his ship? I dunno..

    Gonna check the line-up card and then decide.. 1st 5? Full 9? RL? Half the bet? Full bet?   Sheesh.. I don't enjoy these days. 
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    Less than an hour before game time on the Angels.. Been tossin an turnin all mornin an afternoon, not sure how to wager this..

    It doesn't look like a great match-up on paper, but that is paper and that is why they play the games. Jackson has been pitching worse and worse as the season goes on and giving up more and more home runs. He still has a low ERA tho because he's been very lucky to avoid the big inning and has been getting out of a lot of trouble spots every game lately. You have to think that his "luck" is going to run out sooner than later, and an afternoon game in Anaheim could be the place.

    Central team playing at 1pm on the West coast.. 11am their time. I don't think the record of those teams fares too good.
    Joe Saunders was brilliant last season, but clearly not right this year. Will the 2 weeks off on the DL right his ship? I dunno..

    Gonna check the line-up card and then decide.. 1st 5? Full 9? RL? Half the bet? Full bet?   Sheesh.. I don't enjoy these days. 
     
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    I've broken this game down the best I can. I honestly believe the stats, lineups, and weather today all favor LA. Detroit has stacked the lineup with righties instead of their 5 lefties, but the wind is blowing out for left-handed hitters, which favors LA.
    Saunders is a ground ball pitcher as well, while Jackson has more flyball outs than groundouts this season. He may still have the 3rd best era in the AL, but it's over 4 in August, and he hasn't got past the 6th inning in 4 of his last 5 starts.
    Gary Matthews, 6-10 career vs. Jackson, inserted into #9 slot today, key cog. Jackson's not great holding runners % favors the strong Angels running game and Chone Figgins career 7-13 vs. Jackson. I expect Matthews and Figgins to set the table for Hunter and Vlad.
    Probably lots of runs scored today, thought about the over 10.. hopefully reads are right and Angels come out on top.

    Playing LA ANGELS for Max Recovery 
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    I've broken this game down the best I can. I honestly believe the stats, lineups, and weather today all favor LA. Detroit has stacked the lineup with righties instead of their 5 lefties, but the wind is blowing out for left-handed hitters, which favors LA.
    Saunders is a ground ball pitcher as well, while Jackson has more flyball outs than groundouts this season. He may still have the 3rd best era in the AL, but it's over 4 in August, and he hasn't got past the 6th inning in 4 of his last 5 starts.
    Gary Matthews, 6-10 career vs. Jackson, inserted into #9 slot today, key cog. Jackson's not great holding runners % favors the strong Angels running game and Chone Figgins career 7-13 vs. Jackson. I expect Matthews and Figgins to set the table for Hunter and Vlad.
    Probably lots of runs scored today, thought about the over 10.. hopefully reads are right and Angels come out on top.

    Playing LA ANGELS for Max Recovery 
     
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    Ok as I find it hard to make the right MLB picks I'm going to use the Covers Expert Free Plays.
     
    I will have a seprate bank for each expert.
     
    Each pick will be for 1 unit which is £25.
     
    There are 16 Experts, they don't always have a free play everyday.
     
    https://experts.covers.com/sportshandicappers.aspx
     
    But I need some help on how to recover from a losing game. What chasing system I use.
     
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    Currently the following free picks are listed.
     

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    Matt Fargo

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    Lee Kostroski

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    Doc's Sports

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    Marc Lawrence

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    These experts will give free picks hitting around 40%... with a good chasing system you must be able to make a postive bank....
     
    What do you think guys....
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    Ok as I find it hard to make the right MLB picks I'm going to use the Covers Expert Free Plays.
     
    I will have a seprate bank for each expert.
     
    Each pick will be for 1 unit which is £25.
     
    There are 16 Experts, they don't always have a free play everyday.
     
    https://experts.covers.com/sportshandicappers.aspx
     
    But I need some help on how to recover from a losing game. What chasing system I use.
     
    LABOURCHERE
     
    Currently the following free picks are listed.
     

    Scott Rickenbach’s

    GAME:  Houston Astros @ St. Louis Cardinals Aug 26, 2009 8:15PM

    ?ce=29179

     

    Larry Ness'

    GAME:  Los Angeles Dodgers @ Colorado Rockies Aug 26, 2009 8:40PM

    ?ce=7482

     

    Matt Fargo

    GAME:  Cincinnati Reds @ Milwaukee Brewers Aug 26, 2009 8:05PM

    ?ce=20298

     

    Lee Kostroski

    GAME:  Los Angeles Dodgers @ Colorado Rockies Aug 26, 2009 8:40PM

    ?ce=264161

     

    Doc's Sports

    GAME:  Phillies (RL) @ Pirates (RL) Aug 26, 2009 7:05PM

    ?ce=10293

     

    Marc Lawrence

    GAME:  Tampa Bay Rays @ Toronto Blue Jays Aug 26, 2009 7:07PM

    ?ce=7479

     

    Alex Smart

    GAME:  Los Angeles Dodgers @ Colorado Rockies Aug 26, 2009 8:40PM

    ?ce=337385

     
    These experts will give free picks hitting around 40%... with a good chasing system you must be able to make a postive bank....
     
    What do you think guys....
     
     
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    Why don't you start your own thread on this in the sytems and strategies forum?
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