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I am just a little bit curious about the actual record following the Morrison system if you straight wagered only his posted [B] bets. I see on his site that he is 59-0 and heard he just recently made his first and only [C] bet which tells me that whatever his [B] bet record is, it would only have a single loss this season based on his POSTED picks.
 
Can someone tell me how the [B] bet record for this season and maybe last season?
 
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Instead of me explaning the Morrison deal I will "copy and paste" some of the other posts from other forums for you.
By the way, his record is not 59-0!
 
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Here's one that GETMERESULTS wrote;
 
Another guy answered your question on another thread about the east/west system, etc. It's not Morrison's system either, I did some research on it and it seems to me that it was around long before Morrison came into the picture.  He makes alot of claims that aren't true, like his record, everyone knows that Sac-Town lost that first series and he continues to lie about his record!
 
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Here's another one that WARPATH wrote;
 

Fellas,
I dug through the PSIC archives and retrieved his modified Labourchere money management system and will attach it below.. For those who blindly play Morrison NBA via a Martingale chase progression, then the "pucker factor" has obviously now set in as you head to tomorrow's dreaded "C" bet with Toronto... If the raptors lose this one, you will be wiped out of somewhere between 12 to 15 wins..

If you wagered using PSICs method, then you would simply be down 2 units right now and only risking 1 more unit on this series, so if it loses, you've only lost 3 total units and will adjust your risk some for the next upcoming series... Do yourselves a big favor and print the system and stick to it... BOL.


https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddx45786_53c89dkjc9

 
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I am not a progression person, not now or ever. I am just the least bit intreagued of the system records per game as opposed to per series.
 
To find out what I mean by this check out the system records on only the [B] games that he has POSTED. It has not been alot this season but has a single loss I think. Something like 18-1.
 
For someone like myself who is a straight wager bettor that is interpretted into 18*$100=$1800  -$170*1=-$170     $1800-$170= +$1,630
 
Don't get me wrong I do not support any of these progression system no matter what kind of system it is. The thing I like is the game selections.
 
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Ok I have been wagering with this system from the beginning of the season, but I would never double up the way he says to, because if you buy 3 points at -170 and double up as per the system, you would have wagered $1240 on the Raptors in Minnesota last week to net a $100 profit on the series (that was his first C bet since losing the first series of the year with Sacramento, which he just forgot all about.....talked about how the bad teams should not be played in his system after the fact, even though he sent all 3 games out as a play......then a few weeks later, he's 10-0 or whatever....just conveniently forgot all about it....pretty toutish but whatever)....anyway even though the Raptors put on a furious rally in the 4th and won that game, had they lost, that 1 serier loss would have amounted to a total of $1900 lost or 19 units....so last year I think he finished something like 80-3, which does sound impressive, but is really more like 80-57 in terms of units.....still good but a far cry from 80-3.....

Anyway, I have been straight betting every game that fits his system and it's been very profitable and I only had $100 on the Raptors LOL.....and even with the buying points, I usually split the bet up, and put half on the regular line, and with half I'll buy 2 points (I just can't bring myself to pay more than -150)....this way if the extra points come into play at least I`ll split the 2 bets and come out even.....

His record to this point is 59-1 which breaks down as follows:
Game 1: 41-19
Game 2: 17-2
Game 3: 1-1

If you flat bet every game as I do, you end up at 59-22, which is pretty amazing at almost 73%

The point is, that you could only bet the B games, and I think everyone can agree that 17-2 is ridiculous....but do you really have the discipline to only have made 19 NBA wagers to this point in the season? Plus, the A wagers are pretty damn good themselves, hitting at over 68%, so why miss out on those?

The funny part is that if you did play it as he suggests, with the 1 loss you would be at 59-19, which is really not much different than 59-22 flat betting, except you have far less stress and are never forced to wager a stupid amount just to profit $100.....

All in all I would say that the system definitely works, and it makes sense.....when a team is about to go on a prolonged road trip, especially to the other coast....they are away from the comforts and distractions of home and are able to focus more....so that all but 2 times all year they have covered the spread in the first 2 games....

BOL the rest of the way.....
 
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RussellK is right, whether is be Morrison or PSIC, they both win and you can bet their games straight.  I do the same thing, with a little twist, it goes like this and I think it's right down your alley with your straight bet mentality.
PSIC calls this the 10% Money Management.
Since the picks will hit over 60% flat anyway instead of chasing or even using the Labourchere you can play like this.

"Determine a safe starting wager.  This is usually between 2% and 4% and never more than 5% of your bankroll.  For larger bankrolls if you can be satisfied with 1 or 2 % that is idea.

Next, you will play every game that day for the same amount.  On your daily email it doesn't matter if this team is game 2 or that one is game 1...the systems are ONLY A VEHICLE to create the selections.  Play them all the same.

Each day that you have a winning day, raise your bet by 10-15%.  Each day that is a losing day, lower your bet by 15% unless you are at your base wager.

Very simple...this method allows you to be raising your bet into hot streaks and lowering your wagers if things go cold.  You can play a more conservative version by playing every game for the entire week the same amount and then after each winning week raise your wager and after each losing week lower your wager.  He recommends the daily method.
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In the NBA last night
 
Morrison 1-0
 
PSIC 2-0
 
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Just an update.....the system lost both game 1's on Tuesday, but came back to win both game 2's....Atlanta on Wednesday and San Antonio last night.....

Updated record:
game 1: 41-21
game 2: 19-2
game 3: 1-1

System: 61-1 (61-19 units)
Flat Betting: 61-24 (71.8%)

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RussellK, are you saying that Morrison is 61-24 with just playing the vegas line without buying any points?
 
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The Hawks needed the point to cover a couple days ago on game 2.
 
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Who is psic ?????
 
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I just did some research and discovered that buying the 3 points actually only helped in 7 games all season. I think it helped 4 A games and 3 B games. May be more advantagous to drop the 3 points.
 
so 54-31 (63.5%) flatbetting
 
 
 
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PSIC is a tout he comes on here every once in a while. He does seem helpful and he is .. Don't pay for his picks. I purchased a couple months from him and he did terribly and then at the end of terrible football season he tries to sell us ebooks that reaked of john morrison scamdicapping.. Don't buy picks ! However, some of psic's threads are useful if you can find them.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by RussellK:

Ok I have been wagering with this system from the beginning of the season, but I would never double up the way he says to, because if you buy 3 points at -170 and double up as per the system, you would have wagered $1240 on the Raptors in Minnesota last week to net a $100 profit on the series (that was his first C bet since losing the first series of the year with Sacramento, which he just forgot all about.....talked about how the bad teams should not be played in his system after the fact, even though he sent all 3 games out as a play......then a few weeks later, he's 10-0 or whatever....just conveniently forgot all about it....pretty toutish but whatever)....anyway even though the Raptors put on a furious rally in the 4th and won that game, had they lost, that 1 serier loss would have amounted to a total of $1900 lost or 19 units....so last year I think he finished something like 80-3, which does sound impressive, but is really more like 80-57 in terms of units.....still good but a far cry from 80-3.....

Anyway, I have been straight betting every game that fits his system and it's been very profitable and I only had $100 on the Raptors LOL.....and even with the buying points, I usually split the bet up, and put half on the regular line, and with half I'll buy 2 points (I just can't bring myself to pay more than -150)....this way if the extra points come into play at least I`ll split the 2 bets and come out even.....

His record to this point is 59-1 which breaks down as follows:
Game 1: 41-19
Game 2: 17-2
Game 3: 1-1

If you flat bet every game as I do, you end up at 59-22, which is pretty amazing at almost 73%

The point is, that you could only bet the B games, and I think everyone can agree that 17-2 is ridiculous....but do you really have the discipline to only have made 19 NBA wagers to this point in the season? Plus, the A wagers are pretty damn good themselves, hitting at over 68%, so why miss out on those?

The funny part is that if you did play it as he suggests, with the 1 loss you would be at 59-19, which is really not much different than 59-22 flat betting, except you have far less stress and are never forced to wager a stupid amount just to profit $100.....

All in all I would say that the system definitely works, and it makes sense.....when a team is about to go on a prolonged road trip, especially to the other coast....they are away from the comforts and distractions of home and are able to focus more....so that all but 2 times all year they have covered the spread in the first 2 games....

BOL the rest of the way.....
You sound like a smart person is there anyway that you could pm your picks to me I dowb alot and need help from someone who sounds like they know there stuff. please consider it.
 
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He doesn't play all the teams that fit the system, there was two occassions where he didn't play Boston, when they played Lakers, then Golden state and then Sac. and they only covered on the C wager if played against Sac.
 
The other time was OKC I forget who they played but they covered either b or c wager.
he stated he doesn't play the Best team because of inflated lines or the worse because the likely hood of them covering isn't good.
 
sometimes he plays a 2nd set of games on the road for instance if the trip is 6 games or longer you play games 1-3 and games 4-6.
 
He just played the Spurs last week on their 2nd set, but he failed to play the Hawks who are playing game 5 monday, 2/23. THEY DIDN'T cover game 4 so this should be a play. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigkeith:

Who is psic ?????

BIG KEITH

Let me shed some light on the subject, instead of listening to some BANDWAGONER that doesn't even currently have the service he's bashing.  I do currently have PSIC and Morrison, both of which are doing very well!  PSIC is a well respected handicapper here on these forums and other forums alike. (The RX forums, etc.) Before I signed up with him I did my research.  Well respected guys on these forums never had anything bad to say about the guy, and after reading all the archives it was a pretty easy purchase for me to make, and trust me, so far it was the best $500 I've spent since I've been gambling.  Do yourself a favor and do a little on PSIC and you will see what he is all about. 

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I appreciate the insights bluejay but actually one of the reasons I eventually decided to go with PSIC's picks was that when I emailed asking how he did on each sport he openly admitted having his worst NCAA football season in years.   You don't usually get honest answers from  people when you ask...not cappers anyway.  I'm sorry you had a bad run but I can only go by my experience over the past 5 or six weeks has been nothing but good and everyone I've talked too has said the same things going back to the start of basketball.  I will be sure to temper my bets at the start of football though but I'm going to have to say you probably jumped the gun blue jay
 
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Well, well, well if it isn't California Pizza Kitchen, where have you been?  Has PSIC given you any hockey lately?  If you can believe this, the other day I called PSIC for a question about his book and when we were done talking he gave me 5 tennis matches and I went 4-1, NO BULL-SHIT, I couldn't believe it myself.  Can you believe this guy, he has TENNIS.  I can't believe I bet tennis!!!???
Well, I guess if it wins, then it wins!  Your boy B.J. up there is missing out, that's pretty typical for a HAITER though!  Alright CPK, hey by the way, I've been going a little bigger on PSIC's college totals, they've been doing pretty good, I don't even use RAS's service anymore, $700 down the drain.
Later.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by racinivan:

I just did some research and discovered that buying the 3 points actually only helped in 7 games all season. I think it helped 4 A games and 3 B games. May be more advantagous to drop the 3 points.
 
so 54-31 (63.5%) flatbetting
 
 


This is correct...the points do occasionally make a difference, but at the same time, I just can't buy 3 points for -170....I just can't do it - it's just too much juice....

So instead what I do is cut my bet in half, and put half on the vegas line, and half buying 2 points for -150. This way I average -130 in juice, and if the extra points come into play, then I will split the bets and break even......
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Eastwood7:

You sound like a smart person is there anyway that you could pm your picks to me I dowb alot and need help from someone who sounds like they know there stuff. please consider it.


I sent you a friend request, if you accept I will pm you. I don't post on here because I don't want to be obligated to post every day and really just too much drama on here with even the best cappers getting slammed every time they have a losing day. However, I do win more than I lose.

Top 2 plays for me tonight are Creighton -6 in college and Charlotte +7  in NBA (this is a Morrison Game 2).
 
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Hey Russ how are I'm new to covers and was reading what you wrote is it possible to me with your picks.
I sent you a friend request. thanks alot
 
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sorry Russ I don't know how to send a friend request
 
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Where are you?  I got 2 more tennis winners from PSIC yesterday!
And as you know he went 2-0 in baskets last night as well.
That bankroll just keeps getting bigger and bigger.  Later.
 
 
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MarlonB,
Thanks for all your helpfull advice, I have seen alot of your post on different threads & you seem to always give out great advice to fellow members on the covers forum. Very Commendable.
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