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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 12:34 PM ET #1

    The System: Play every team on the money line when they’re the dog

    How its organized: 7 game chase on each team individually (should never have to chase this deep, see comments on poop!)

    How to wager: initial wager is a risk of 1U, then 2U, then 4U.  If first three games lose,  all subsequent bets are “to win” previous loss amounts  + 1U. (will drop initial wager to .25U-.5U after 30U gain)

    How to Filter: +150 or less only.  Also, do NOT play any dog that is on a three game (or longer) skid.

    What you’ll need: BR 100U(minimum)

    This is an example of what it would look like if we chased the Reds (as dog only) to win 1U and they lost their first 4 games(as a dog), but eventually won the 5th. Remember, we filter out 3 game skids…this example ONLY demonstrates the chase/wager sequence amounts :

    Game1:   Reds+125   wager 1U to win 1.25U         Reds lose, bettor loses 1U (let’s call this “L1”)

    Game2:   Reds+140   wager 2U to win 2.8U           Reds lose again, bettor loses 2U   (L2)

    Game3:   Reds+105   wager 4U to win 4.2U           Reds lose again, bettor loses 4U   (L3)

    Game4:   Reds+115   wager 8U to win 9.2U           Reds lose again, bettor loses 8U   (L4)

    Game5:   Reds+130   wager “to win” 16U (previous losses L1 thru L4= 15 + the 1U you are trying to gain). Risk would be 12.3U in this case.  Reds win, you bag your unit and start the chase on the Reds again!

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    The System: Play every team on the money line when they’re the dog

    How its organized: 7 game chase on each team individually (should never have to chase this deep, see comments on poop!)

    How to wager: initial wager is a risk of 1U, then 2U, then 4U.  If first three games lose,  all subsequent bets are “to win” previous loss amounts  + 1U. (will drop initial wager to .25U-.5U after 30U gain)

    How to Filter: +150 or less only.  Also, do NOT play any dog that is on a three game (or longer) skid.

    What you’ll need: BR 100U(minimum)

    This is an example of what it would look like if we chased the Reds (as dog only) to win 1U and they lost their first 4 games(as a dog), but eventually won the 5th. Remember, we filter out 3 game skids…this example ONLY demonstrates the chase/wager sequence amounts :

    Game1:   Reds+125   wager 1U to win 1.25U         Reds lose, bettor loses 1U (let’s call this “L1”)

    Game2:   Reds+140   wager 2U to win 2.8U           Reds lose again, bettor loses 2U   (L2)

    Game3:   Reds+105   wager 4U to win 4.2U           Reds lose again, bettor loses 4U   (L3)

    Game4:   Reds+115   wager 8U to win 9.2U           Reds lose again, bettor loses 8U   (L4)

    Game5:   Reds+130   wager “to win” 16U (previous losses L1 thru L4= 15 + the 1U you are trying to gain). Risk would be 12.3U in this case.  Reds win, you bag your unit and start the chase on the Reds again!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 12:35 PM ET #2

    Now for a little word on poop!  Remember, you’re playing with dogs…and dogs poop, it’s a fact. If you don’t clean up the poop, it stinks up the yard (your “risk position”, in this case).  What I consider to be poop in this system is a game4 (or worse).  So, to keep your yard from getting to messy, I advise you to clean it up when you have the opportunity(specifically, a positive BR gain).  What I mean here is that if your bank roll is in the positive, re-set your “game4”s(or 5’s, or 6’s) to a game1…clean up the poop!

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    Now for a little word on poop!  Remember, you’re playing with dogs…and dogs poop, it’s a fact. If you don’t clean up the poop, it stinks up the yard (your “risk position”, in this case).  What I consider to be poop in this system is a game4 (or worse).  So, to keep your yard from getting to messy, I advise you to clean it up when you have the opportunity(specifically, a positive BR gain).  What I mean here is that if your bank roll is in the positive, re-set your “game4”s(or 5’s, or 6’s) to a game1…clean up the poop!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 12:41 PM ET #3

    4/3 results:

    Cards +110   loss 1

    Rays   -103    loss 1.03

    Royals+102   win 1.02

    YTD: -1.01

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    4/3 results:

    Cards +110   loss 1

    Rays   -103    loss 1.03

    Royals+102   win 1.02

    YTD: -1.01

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2016 - 12:47 PM ET #4

    4/4 plays:

    Phillies   +148   risk1U

    Twins     +117   risk1U

    Mariners +114  risk1U

    Indians    -105   risk1.05U

    Jays         -101  risk1U

    A's           +115  risk1U

    Angels     +127  risk1U

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    4/4 plays:

    Phillies   +148   risk1U

    Twins     +117   risk1U

    Mariners +114  risk1U

    Indians    -105   risk1.05U

    Jays         -101  risk1U

    A's           +115  risk1U

    Angels     +127  risk1U

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 6:36 AM ET #5

    4/4 results:  (-3U)

    Phillies   +148   risk1U  loss

    Twins     +117   risk1U  loss

    Mariners +114  risk1U  loss

    Indians    -105   risk1.05U  ppd

    Jays         -101  risk1U  won

    A's           +115  risk1U  scr

    Angels     +127  risk1U  loss

    YTD: -4.01U
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    4/4 results:  (-3U)

    Phillies   +148   risk1U  loss

    Twins     +117   risk1U  loss

    Mariners +114  risk1U  loss

    Indians    -105   risk1.05U  ppd

    Jays         -101  risk1U  won

    A's           +115  risk1U  scr

    Angels     +127  risk1U  loss

    YTD: -4.01U
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 9:44 AM ET #6

    Am I seeing it right for today... would every game qualify as playing on the underdog today????
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    Am I seeing it right for today... would every game qualify as playing on the underdog today????
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 9:50 AM ET #7

    chaser16, quick question...

    So for example, if you're chasing the Angles and Game1 they are +130 and they lose, then the next day the Angles are -130, you DO NOT play on that as Game2, right??  You would wait till they are dogs of up to +150 again, right??

    Just want to make sure I'm following this system correctly

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    chaser16, quick question...

    So for example, if you're chasing the Angles and Game1 they are +130 and they lose, then the next day the Angles are -130, you DO NOT play on that as Game2, right??  You would wait till they are dogs of up to +150 again, right??

    Just want to make sure I'm following this system correctly

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 10:16 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    chaser16, quick question...

    So for example, if you're chasing the Angles and Game1 they are +130 and they lose, then the next day the Angles are -130, you DO NOT play on that as Game2, right??  You would wait till they are dogs of up to +150 again, right??

    Just want to make sure I'm following this system correctly

    That's correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    chaser16, quick question...

    So for example, if you're chasing the Angles and Game1 they are +130 and they lose, then the next day the Angles are -130, you DO NOT play on that as Game2, right??  You would wait till they are dogs of up to +150 again, right??

    Just want to make sure I'm following this system correctly

    That's correct

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 11:16 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    Am I seeing it right for today... would every game qualify as playing on the underdog today????

    Dave, still waiting for a clear dog to emerge in Cards/Bucs and Sox/Tribe games at my books (Cantor and Boyd for this system)...if one does not emerge, I will most likely pass on those games.  If you have a clear dog at "even' or plus $, I'd lock the play in. Otherwise, I should be posting my plays around noon EST. GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    Am I seeing it right for today... would every game qualify as playing on the underdog today????

    Dave, still waiting for a clear dog to emerge in Cards/Bucs and Sox/Tribe games at my books (Cantor and Boyd for this system)...if one does not emerge, I will most likely pass on those games.  If you have a clear dog at "even' or plus $, I'd lock the play in. Otherwise, I should be posting my plays around noon EST. GL

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 12:54 PM ET #10

    4/5 Plays:

    Play     Price     risk amt

    Pirates   EV    1U

    Brewers+123  1U

    Rockies+125   1U

    Padres +111   1U

    Marlins +113   1U

    Jays     EV      1U

    Mariners-102  2U

    Royals  +107  1U

    Angels  +122  2U

    Yanks   +122  1U

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    4/5 Plays:

    Play     Price     risk amt

    Pirates   EV    1U

    Brewers+123  1U

    Rockies+125   1U

    Padres +111   1U

    Marlins +113   1U

    Jays     EV      1U

    Mariners-102  2U

    Royals  +107  1U

    Angels  +122  2U

    Yanks   +122  1U

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 4:13 PM ET #11

    Hey chaser,

    Is this system backtested with proven results from previous years?

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    Hey chaser,

    Is this system backtested with proven results from previous years?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2016 - 8:23 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    Hey chaser,

    Is this system backtested with proven results from previous years?

    I've used this system in other sports with success for the past few years and translated it to MLB last season...hit my 30 unit goal in three weeks, and cleared 118 units for the season. That doesn't sound like a lot, but my units are fairly large so it was a decent BR increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    Hey chaser,

    Is this system backtested with proven results from previous years?

    I've used this system in other sports with success for the past few years and translated it to MLB last season...hit my 30 unit goal in three weeks, and cleared 118 units for the season. That doesn't sound like a lot, but my units are fairly large so it was a decent BR increase.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 1:13 AM ET #13

    4/5 Results:

    Pirates   EV    1U   Won

    Brewers+123  1U   Loss

    Rockies+125   1U   Loss

    Padres +111   1U   Loss

    Marlins +113   1U   Loss

    Jays     EV      1U   Loss

    Mariners-102  2U   Won

    Royals  +107  1U   Loss

    Angels  +122  2U   Loss

    Yanks   +122  1U   Loss

    YTD: -9.01 U

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    4/5 Results:

    Pirates   EV    1U   Won

    Brewers+123  1U   Loss

    Rockies+125   1U   Loss

    Padres +111   1U   Loss

    Marlins +113   1U   Loss

    Jays     EV      1U   Loss

    Mariners-102  2U   Won

    Royals  +107  1U   Loss

    Angels  +122  2U   Loss

    Yanks   +122  1U   Loss

    YTD: -9.01 U

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 8:37 AM ET #14

    Hi again Chaser,

    One more question just to clarify...

    So if you're currently playing on a team and they lose their 3rd straight as a dog of EVEN to +150, you avoid them their next game because of the filter of 3+ game skid then, right?? 

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    Hi again Chaser,

    One more question just to clarify...

    So if you're currently playing on a team and they lose their 3rd straight as a dog of EVEN to +150, you avoid them their next game because of the filter of 3+ game skid then, right?? 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 10:52 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    Hi again Chaser,

    One more question just to clarify...

    So if you're currently playing on a team and they lose their 3rd straight as a dog of EVEN to +150, you avoid them their next game because of the filter of 3+ game skid then, right?? 

    3 consecutive losses disqualifies a team regardless of "dog" or "fave" status in those past three games...simply put, if our dog is within our parameters of EVEN-to-+150, make sure that they have won at least one game out of their last three. This filter is meant to avoid "slumping" teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    Hi again Chaser,

    One more question just to clarify...

    So if you're currently playing on a team and they lose their 3rd straight as a dog of EVEN to +150, you avoid them their next game because of the filter of 3+ game skid then, right?? 

    3 consecutive losses disqualifies a team regardless of "dog" or "fave" status in those past three games...simply put, if our dog is within our parameters of EVEN-to-+150, make sure that they have won at least one game out of their last three. This filter is meant to avoid "slumping" teams

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 11:19 AM ET #16

    ***CORRECTION***

    YTD: -10.01

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    YTD: -10.01

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 12:30 PM ET #17

    4/6 Plays:

    Play          Price     risk amt

    Cards         +102     2U

    Brewers     +131     2U

    Rockies     +146     2U

    Phillies      +127     2U

    Padres      +124     2U

    Tigers       +140     1U

    Rays          +114    2U

    Rangers      EV      1U

    Red Sox    +121    1U

    Twins        +122     2U

    Astros       +107     1U

    CWS         +123     1U

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    4/6 Plays:

    Play          Price     risk amt

    Cards         +102     2U

    Brewers     +131     2U

    Rockies     +146     2U

    Phillies      +127     2U

    Padres      +124     2U

    Tigers       +140     1U

    Rays          +114    2U

    Rangers      EV      1U

    Red Sox    +121    1U

    Twins        +122     2U

    Astros       +107     1U

    CWS         +123     1U

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2016 - 9:20 PM ET #18

    Hey chaser i have a question.  What happens if a team goes 0-3 during the chase. Do you wait for them to win again to continue the chase? Or should you start the chase over for that team?
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    Hey chaser i have a question.  What happens if a team goes 0-3 during the chase. Do you wait for them to win again to continue the chase? Or should you start the chase over for that team?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyama66:

    Hey chaser i have a question.  What happens if a team goes 0-3 during the chase. Do you wait for them to win again to continue the chase? Or should you start the chase over for that team?

    I resume the chase after a win

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyama66:

    Hey chaser i have a question.  What happens if a team goes 0-3 during the chase. Do you wait for them to win again to continue the chase? Or should you start the chase over for that team?

    I resume the chase after a win

     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 9:57 AM ET #20

    4/6 Results: 

    Cards         +102     2U  loss

    Brewers     +131     2U  won

    Rockies     +146     2U  won

    Phillies      +127     2U  loss

    Padres      +124     2U  loss

    Tigers       +140     1U  won

    Rays          +114    2U  won

    Rangers      EV      1U  loss

    Red Sox    +121    1U  loss

    Twins        +122     2U  loss

    Astros       +107     1U  loss

    CWS         +123     1U  loss

    4/7:    -2.78U

    YTD: -12.79U

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    4/6 Results: 

    Cards         +102     2U  loss

    Brewers     +131     2U  won

    Rockies     +146     2U  won

    Phillies      +127     2U  loss

    Padres      +124     2U  loss

    Tigers       +140     1U  won

    Rays          +114    2U  won

    Rangers      EV      1U  loss

    Red Sox    +121    1U  loss

    Twins        +122     2U  loss

    Astros       +107     1U  loss

    CWS         +123     1U  loss

    4/7:    -2.78U

    YTD: -12.79U

     
    chaser15
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 1:02 PM ET #21

    4/7 Plays:

    Play          Price     risk amt

    Phillies     +122      4

    Marlins     +117      2

    Dodgers   +107      1

    Dbax        +138      1

    CWS        +103      2

    Astros*     -103*     2*

    Red Sox  +122      2

    Twins       +125     4

    Rangers   +106     2

    * I don't usually make minus-money plays, but its early in the chase and I like this match-up

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    4/7 Plays:

    Play          Price     risk amt

    Phillies     +122      4

    Marlins     +117      2

    Dodgers   +107      1

    Dbax        +138      1

    CWS        +103      2

    Astros*     -103*     2*

    Red Sox  +122      2

    Twins       +125     4

    Rangers   +106     2

    * I don't usually make minus-money plays, but its early in the chase and I like this match-up

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 5:29 AM ET #22

    4/7 Results:

    Phillies     +122      4 loss

    Marlins     +117      2 win

    Phillies     +122      4 loss

    Dodgers   +107      1 loss

    Dbax        +138      1 loss

    CWS        +103      2 win

    Astros*     -103*     2 loss

    Red Sox  +122      2  ppd

    Twins       +125     4 loss

    Rangers   +106     2 loss

    4/7:  -9.66

    YTD: -22.45

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    4/7 Results:

    Phillies     +122      4 loss

    Marlins     +117      2 win

    Phillies     +122      4 loss

    Dodgers   +107      1 loss

    Dbax        +138      1 loss

    CWS        +103      2 win

    Astros*     -103*     2 loss

    Red Sox  +122      2  ppd

    Twins       +125     4 loss

    Rangers   +106     2 loss

    4/7:  -9.66

    YTD: -22.45

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 12:51 PM ET #23

    So because Twins and Padres have both lost 3 straight, we avoid them until they win a game, and then resume the chase as Game4 when they fit the EVEN to +150 criteria... correct??
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    So because Twins and Padres have both lost 3 straight, we avoid them until they win a game, and then resume the chase as Game4 when they fit the EVEN to +150 criteria... correct??
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 2:38 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    So because Twins and Padres have both lost 3 straight, we avoid them until they win a game, and then resume the chase as Game4 when they fit the EVEN to +150 criteria... correct??

    Correct. Rangers are out as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemw23:

    So because Twins and Padres have both lost 3 straight, we avoid them until they win a game, and then resume the chase as Game4 when they fit the EVEN to +150 criteria... correct??

    Correct. Rangers are out as well

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 2:44 PM ET #25

    4/8 Plays:

    Play          Price     risk amt

    Reds        +144      1u

    Braves     +145      4u

    Dbax        +122      2u

    Dodgers   +105      2u

    Brewers    +112     1u

    Yanks       EV         2u

    CWS        +126      1u

    Orioles     +121      1u

    Red Sox  +145       2u

     

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    4/8 Plays:

    Play          Price     risk amt

    Reds        +144      1u

    Braves     +145      4u

    Dbax        +122      2u

    Dodgers   +105      2u

    Brewers    +112     1u

    Yanks       EV         2u

    CWS        +126      1u

    Orioles     +121      1u

    Red Sox  +145       2u

     

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