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i too usually on take even money or better odds, but in some cases when i go on a run of wins using this betting patter i factor in 15 percent of start up broll for vig purposes.  but usually the odds from the plus money wins takes this vig  percentaged down so usually after about 20 consequtive wins, the extra odds makes up for the start up vig i set aside.
 
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I see what you mean.interesting..
 
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I never said the divide by 7 rule was perfect, but it's pretty fucking close. Also, you're assuming I'm getting 10 cents of juice which is horrendous, especially during baseball season where 5 cent lines are the norm.

Here's how the bets would go if you strictly stuck to the divide by 7... obviously the last couple of plays are no good in regards to the system but if you're at the 7th level, losing 40 bucks instead of your whole bankroll is acceptable. 

$1172.50 to win $2289.19 - (2326.71) = -37.52
$586.25 to win $1144.59 - (1154.21) = -9.62
$293.13 to win $572.31 - (567.96) = 4.35
$146.55 to win $286.12 - (274.83) = 11.29
$73.30 to win $143.11 - (128.28) = 14.83
$36.65  to win $71.56 - (54.98) = 16.58
$18.33 to win $35.79 - (18.33) = 17.46

If you really want to make positive money in the last stages of the series, before you start, you can guess an average percentage of juice (say 5%) and take out 5% of your bankroll before you divide by 7.. and then use that 5% in the later rounds of betting to cover the juice... like a vig fund or something. Example:

Bankroll - 5% = New bankroll
$2345 - $117.25 = $2227.75

$2227.75

$1113.86
$556.94
$278.47
$139.23
$69.62
$34.81
$17.40

These would be your wager amounts without the added bankroll. Now to include the extra bankroll, once again there is an optimum value for each but to keep it simple. Just throw 70/25/5 percent on the higher bets respectively, so the 7th bet would get 70 percent of your 'juice fund', the 6th would get 25 percent and the 5th would get 5. This now works out to:

$1113.86 + 82.08 to win 2334.95 - ( 2327.58) = 7.37
$556.94 + 29.31 to win 1144.59 - (1131.64) = 12.95
$278.47 + 5.86 to win 555.13 - (545.39) = 9.74
$139.23 to win 271.83 - (261.06) = 10.77
$69.62 to win 135.93 - (121.83) = 14.10
$34.81 to win 67.96 - (52.21) - 15.75
$17.40 to win 33.97 - (17.40) =16.57

Voila
 
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This is a crazy question, but I wonder how this would work on a 2 line Labby?  Right now I am hitting 46%.  All you need is 42%.
 
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Well you only need to hit at a 15% clip for a 7 game martingale to profit... so whats so much better about lab if you need to hit so high?
 
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where can i find info on a labby?  i have read some things but all have left me confused, can anyone give me an example?  im not a big dollar player so say my bank is 250 to start, what do i need to do?
 
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You are absolutely right DJ, I lost my head for a second.  Im gonna stick with what I am doing.

 
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Milkman, there are several modifications to the labby.  It is an excellent money mgt tool.  Its a bit complicated and definately not for the impatient. It takes practice to get it mastered.  Questions will come up along the way as you go.  It is a way to grow bank using a slow methodical approach.  A lot of times its 3 steps forward 2.5 back.  Does this sound like something that fits the way you like to play?  You mentioned a $250 bankroll.  The maximum unit that you would want to use should be no more than 5%.  I use 1% to 2% per unit.  I find that with anything more 2% things can get uncomfortable if you hit a bad run, and you will.  I am conservative though.  If I lose my roll I dont have anymore to put in.  But thats just me.  If you are still interested PM me and I will try to show you the basics.
 
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Labby can be simple or complicated... here is the simple version:

1 2 3 4 5 6

^^ these are your wager amounts and every 'series' starts off like this, though it could be any amount or combination of numbers but that's how it starts to get complicated so just stick with this ^^

For your first bet, you add the first number to the last (1+6) for a bet of $7. If you win, your next bet is the subsequent numbers going inwards (2+5) for a bet of $7 again. If you win, you continue doing the same (3+4 for $7 again). Once you've reached the middle, you're done; the series over and you can start again.

Now, if you lose, you add your wager amount to the end of the series. So let's say you lost your first bet (1+6)... well then you keep all the original numbers there and add 7 (the wager amount) to the end so that your series looks like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Now your first bet will be 1+7...

Let's say you win it (and therefore cross off 1 and 7), the next bet would be 2+6. But lets assume you lose, well then you add 8 to the end and your series looks like this:

2 3 4 5 6 8

Your next bet would be $10 (2+8)...

and so on and so forth.

Hope that was simple enough.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer:

Labby can be simple or complicated... here is the simple version:

1 2 3 4 5 6

^^ these are your wager amounts and every 'series' starts off like this, though it could be any amount or combination of numbers but that's how it starts to get complicated so just stick with this ^^

For your first bet, you add the first number to the last (1+6) for a bet of $7. If you win, your next bet is the subsequent numbers going inwards (2+5) for a bet of $7 again. If you win, you continue doing the same (3+4 for $7 again). Once you've reached the middle, you're done; the series over and you can start again.

Now, if you lose, you add your wager amount to the end of the series. So let's say you lost your first bet (1+6)... well then you keep all the original numbers there and add 7 (the wager amount) to the end so that your series looks like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Now your first bet will be 1+7...

Let's say you win it (and therefore cross off 1 and 7), the next bet would be 2+6. But lets assume you lose, well then you add 8 to the end and your series looks like this:

2 3 4 5 6 8

Your next bet would be $10 (2+8)...

and so on and so forth.

Hope that was simple enough.



thanks DJ your broke it down to the simplest form...thanks man i do have a better idea
 
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Posted: #217
Milkman, while this is in the simplest form, this is just the tip of the iceberg and not really even close to how I use it.  
 
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Posted: #218

if your gonna do a martingale, the point is to not lose so many straight games, and if that is your main point then utilizing a grand martingale optimizes your potential profits based on the levels u reach, instead of just tryin to get that 1 unit after a win.  Just what i think anyhow, bc honestly supereagle for as many wins as u have doin it traditional, i havent backtested your record but if most of your wins came inthe 2-4 levels i would say u would be up at least double ur startup broll or even triple, so backtest it so u know

 
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Im gonna change to your method after the next win jp.  I'm not even gonna backtest, just gonna front test.

 
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SCRATCH THAT LAA PLAY!!!!!! That was was my 2nd choice.

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Time for you to get a profile picture supereagle... may I suggest this bad boy?

Good luck with the lab
 
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I like it! How can I get that in my spot?
 
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First, you need to save the picture on your hard drive. So just right-click on the image and select "Save Image As..." and save it where you can find it easily.

Second, go up to the top right corner of this page and click 'My Account'. From there, look on the right navigational tab and click 'Update Image and Profile'. Scroll down and click on 'Choose File' and go locate the file on your hard drive and voila! 
 
 
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This lil guy is pretty cool too.. https://www.ride385.com/eagle_flames.jpg

But yes, definitely get a pic!

You need to right click on the image and choose 'Save As' or 'Save Image As' on your computer (Remember the folder where you save it!) Then go to your Covers 'My Space' Page and then click the Tab in the upper right that says Customize.. then in the section where you currently see your blue guy photo, click 'Edit'.

Then just go to the bottom where you see the photo part and click Browse.. then choose the folder where you saved the pic you want to use.

Bad break changing your pick there tonight. You'll get it back tomorrow.
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