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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2013 - 10:49 PM ET #51

    btw if you have an 'a' 'b' 'c' etc. breakdown for this season would you mind posting? thanks!
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    btw if you have an 'a' 'b' 'c' etc. breakdown for this season would you mind posting? thanks!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2013 - 11:51 PM ET #52

    My record at the All-Star break is 87-1.  I am up +82.4 units because of my betting structure and also because I did not bet the D game in the only loss.
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    My record at the All-Star break is 87-1.  I am up +82.4 units because of my betting structure and also because I did not bet the D game in the only loss.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2013 - 11:03 PM ET #53

    great 1st half man...congrats. question - if you are on the a or b game etc. and the team you are chasing loses by 5 runs or more do you skip 2 games before you continue on? 
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    great 1st half man...congrats. question - if you are on the a or b game etc. and the team you are chasing loses by 5 runs or more do you skip 2 games before you continue on? 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2013 - 6:53 AM ET #54

    No...I continue that chase, but also start a new one.
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    No...I continue that chase, but also start a new one.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2013 - 2:03 PM ET #55

    Cool thanks! Do you happen to have an.a b c d breakdown for first half of the season?
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    Cool thanks! Do you happen to have an.a b c d breakdown for first half of the season?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2013 - 4:12 AM ET #56

    I have been following Cisco for a few years and like what you have done here. It looks secure---Good luck
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    I have been following Cisco for a few years and like what you have done here. It looks secure---Good luck
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2013 - 8:49 AM ET #57

    do you post the pics or have a spreadsheet?
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    do you post the pics or have a spreadsheet?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2013 - 9:53 PM ET #58

    flwareagle - Bal lost gm1 by 5 runs. we continue with them tomorrow right?

    For anyone following I am tracking the games here
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkIdkXC0UBUbdGtjdnlxVmlVeEpaOXF4Vkk4djFwTFE#gid=2

    Missing a few so if you can, flwareagle double check it please. i would appreciate it.
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    flwareagle - Bal lost gm1 by 5 runs. we continue with them tomorrow right?

    For anyone following I am tracking the games here
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkIdkXC0UBUbdGtjdnlxVmlVeEpaOXF4Vkk4djFwTFE#gid=2

    Missing a few so if you can, flwareagle double check it please. i would appreciate it.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2013 - 10:36 PM ET #59

    air - i can help here. since the chase already started he does NOT skip 2 game now (like Cisco does) ...he continues on and begins another chase as well since Balt lost today by 5+ runs. so we have gm 2 on tuesday (off tomorrow) on the original chase and another balt chase begins on the 31st.  note - he does skip another two games if they lose by 5+ runs in either 'skip 1' or 'skip 2' gms... if that makes sense lol!
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    air - i can help here. since the chase already started he does NOT skip 2 game now (like Cisco does) ...he continues on and begins another chase as well since Balt lost today by 5+ runs. so we have gm 2 on tuesday (off tomorrow) on the original chase and another balt chase begins on the 31st.  note - he does skip another two games if they lose by 5+ runs in either 'skip 1' or 'skip 2' gms... if that makes sense lol!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2013 - 3:42 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    air - i can help here. since the chase already started he does NOT skip 2 game now (like Cisco does) ...he continues on and begins another chase as well since Balt lost today by 5+ runs. so we have gm 2 on tuesday (off tomorrow) on the original chase and another balt chase begins on the 31st.  note - he does skip another two games if they lose by 5+ runs in either 'skip 1' or 'skip 2' gms... if that makes sense lol!

    That is correct.  I treat it as a completely independent chase.  The reason I still skip (even though I am playing them in the first chase) is because I don't want to lose two chases with the same team if I can avoid it.  If I lose the first because the qualifying team is playing bad or whatever, then maybe the two skipped games will give them time to "ride out their slump" and I won't lose the second.  Has worked so far, but losses are inevitable.  I always EXPECT a couple of losses from any system...even undefeated ones.  That is why I try to manage my money in a way that those losses don't destroy the BR.  And I don't always bet the D bet....didn't in the CLE loss, but have also missed a couple of wins.  Even if I do bet the D, it is still usually for a series loss even with a win.

    My record to date is currently 91-1 with the following open:

    BOS (A)
    BAL (B) off tonight

    with these pending:

    TEX (skip 7/29, 7/30...start 7-31)
    BAL (skip 7/30, 7/31...start 8-1)


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    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    air - i can help here. since the chase already started he does NOT skip 2 game now (like Cisco does) ...he continues on and begins another chase as well since Balt lost today by 5+ runs. so we have gm 2 on tuesday (off tomorrow) on the original chase and another balt chase begins on the 31st.  note - he does skip another two games if they lose by 5+ runs in either 'skip 1' or 'skip 2' gms... if that makes sense lol!

    That is correct.  I treat it as a completely independent chase.  The reason I still skip (even though I am playing them in the first chase) is because I don't want to lose two chases with the same team if I can avoid it.  If I lose the first because the qualifying team is playing bad or whatever, then maybe the two skipped games will give them time to "ride out their slump" and I won't lose the second.  Has worked so far, but losses are inevitable.  I always EXPECT a couple of losses from any system...even undefeated ones.  That is why I try to manage my money in a way that those losses don't destroy the BR.  And I don't always bet the D bet....didn't in the CLE loss, but have also missed a couple of wins.  Even if I do bet the D, it is still usually for a series loss even with a win.

    My record to date is currently 91-1 with the following open:

    BOS (A)
    BAL (B) off tonight

    with these pending:

    TEX (skip 7/29, 7/30...start 7-31)
    BAL (skip 7/30, 7/31...start 8-1)


     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2013 - 3:47 PM ET #61

    My preseason prediction for the season was that it would go 117-3.  I don't think I posted that, but I have a partner in betting these systems and that was what I projected.  Someone mentioned earlier that I missed a loss....don't know if that is true or not (haven't seen proof).  If I did, then I got pretty lucky because it would have been an oversight.
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    My preseason prediction for the season was that it would go 117-3.  I don't think I posted that, but I have a partner in betting these systems and that was what I projected.  Someone mentioned earlier that I missed a loss....don't know if that is true or not (haven't seen proof).  If I did, then I got pretty lucky because it would have been an oversight.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2013 - 3:51 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by djknoell:

    do you post the pics or have a spreadsheet?

    Sorry I haven't responded to this question earlier by others.  Unfortunately, I don't have the time to post it everyday or else I would.  My original plan is to shut down 8/15 (don't start anymore chases AFTER this date).
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    Quote Originally Posted by djknoell:

    do you post the pics or have a spreadsheet?

    Sorry I haven't responded to this question earlier by others.  Unfortunately, I don't have the time to post it everyday or else I would.  My original plan is to shut down 8/15 (don't start anymore chases AFTER this date).
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2013 - 11:50 PM ET #63

    Current Season Record:  97-1
    Open Chases:  1 (BAL-C...off Mon, C bet is on Tue)

    PLAYS FOR MON, AUG 5

    CLE (A)

    PENDING CHASES

    OAK (Play Tue)
    STL (Skip Mon, Play Tue)
    CIN (Skip Tue, Wed, Play Thur)
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    Current Season Record:  97-1
    Open Chases:  1 (BAL-C...off Mon, C bet is on Tue)

    PLAYS FOR MON, AUG 5

    CLE (A)

    PENDING CHASES

    OAK (Play Tue)
    STL (Skip Mon, Play Tue)
    CIN (Skip Tue, Wed, Play Thur)
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 12:03 AM ET #64

    Well, survived a D bet with TB (didn't play though).

    System shuts down Aug 15 (last day to qualify for a new chase).

    Current Season Record:  106-1
    Open Chases:  None

    NEW CHASE

    TB (A bet on Thursday)
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    Well, survived a D bet with TB (didn't play though).

    System shuts down Aug 15 (last day to qualify for a new chase).

    Current Season Record:  106-1
    Open Chases:  None

    NEW CHASE

    TB (A bet on Thursday)
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 10:22 AM ET #65

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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2013 - 11:07 AM ET #66

    R there any plays for today?
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2013 - 1:22 PM ET #67

    What about the CLE chase in post #63?

    They lost 6 in a row.
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    What about the CLE chase in post #63?

    They lost 6 in a row.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2013 - 2:27 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by Syracuse44:

    What about the CLE chase in post #63?

    They lost 6 in a row.

    They were a DOG on Aug 7 vs DET which was a C bet.  Therefore, we took them on the RL +1.5.  They lost 6-5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syracuse44:

    What about the CLE chase in post #63?

    They lost 6 in a row.

    They were a DOG on Aug 7 vs DET which was a C bet.  Therefore, we took them on the RL +1.5.  They lost 6-5.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2013 - 2:38 PM ET #69

    Well, TB won on Thursday to close the final chase.  Here is the final tally:

    Final Season Record:  107-1
    Total Units:  +103.4

    The reason I won 103.4 units is because of the betting structure I outlined in an earlier post.  Also, I avoided betting a couple of D bets all-together (the CLE loss being one of them).  Most of the wins were A or B which returned an average of +1.2 units per win, including series losses (when I didn't bet a D game that ended up winning).

    Also, I didn't start my betting structure until sometime in early May, so my Units stat was adjusted for the chases where I didn't use the current structure.  My ACTUAL total units from this system was +84.3.
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    Well, TB won on Thursday to close the final chase.  Here is the final tally:

    Final Season Record:  107-1
    Total Units:  +103.4

    The reason I won 103.4 units is because of the betting structure I outlined in an earlier post.  Also, I avoided betting a couple of D bets all-together (the CLE loss being one of them).  Most of the wins were A or B which returned an average of +1.2 units per win, including series losses (when I didn't bet a D game that ended up winning).

    Also, I didn't start my betting structure until sometime in early May, so my Units stat was adjusted for the chases where I didn't use the current structure.  My ACTUAL total units from this system was +84.3.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2013 - 3:17 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:


    They were a DOG on Aug 7 vs DET which was a C bet.  Therefore, we took them on the RL +1.5.  They lost 6-5.


    OK - Thanks for the clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:


    They were a DOG on Aug 7 vs DET which was a C bet.  Therefore, we took them on the RL +1.5.  They lost 6-5.


    OK - Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2013 - 4:32 PM ET #71

    BAL defeated COL yesterday to close the final chase in my version of Cisco's 5 Run (Loss) Chase.  Here is the final tally on both 5 Run Chases that I played this year:

    Final 5 Run Win Chase Results:  107-1
    Final 5 Run Loss Chase Results:  102-1
    Total 5 Run Chases Results:  209-2

    Final 5 Run Win Chase Units:  +103.4
    Final 5 Run Loss Chase Units:  +97.4
    Total 5 Run Chases Units:  +200.8
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    BAL defeated COL yesterday to close the final chase in my version of Cisco's 5 Run (Loss) Chase.  Here is the final tally on both 5 Run Chases that I played this year:

    Final 5 Run Win Chase Results:  107-1
    Final 5 Run Loss Chase Results:  102-1
    Total 5 Run Chases Results:  209-2

    Final 5 Run Win Chase Units:  +103.4
    Final 5 Run Loss Chase Units:  +97.4
    Total 5 Run Chases Units:  +200.8
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2013 - 4:40 PM ET #72

    flwareagle:

    May I ask how it is that you play Cisco's system differently?  I have followed his systems the past few years and credit him with teaching me most all that I know about system wagering.  

    Thank you Sir, and congratulations on a great season!  
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    May I ask how it is that you play Cisco's system differently?  I have followed his systems the past few years and credit him with teaching me most all that I know about system wagering.  

    Thank you Sir, and congratulations on a great season!  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2013 - 4:55 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetDickWormy:

    flwareagle:

    May I ask how it is that you play Cisco's system differently?  I have followed his systems the past few years and credit him with teaching me most all that I know about system wagering.  

    Thank you Sir, and congratulations on a great season!  

    Yes I can tell you and I agree that many of my ideas were also inspired by Cisco.

    As far as my version of the 5 Run Chase, I basically just use his original system (I'm assuming this was how he originally had it).  I only play teams with a winning pct less than .471.  I skip 2 games, then place my A bet.  If one of the 2 skipped games is a win of 5+ runs, then I restart.  I do not have any other filters.  If a current chase team wins by 5+ during the chase, I just start a completely new chase while continuing on with the original chase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetDickWormy:

    flwareagle:

    May I ask how it is that you play Cisco's system differently?  I have followed his systems the past few years and credit him with teaching me most all that I know about system wagering.  

    Thank you Sir, and congratulations on a great season!  

    Yes I can tell you and I agree that many of my ideas were also inspired by Cisco.

    As far as my version of the 5 Run Chase, I basically just use his original system (I'm assuming this was how he originally had it).  I only play teams with a winning pct less than .471.  I skip 2 games, then place my A bet.  If one of the 2 skipped games is a win of 5+ runs, then I restart.  I do not have any other filters.  If a current chase team wins by 5+ during the chase, I just start a completely new chase while continuing on with the original chase.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2013 - 8:47 PM ET #74

    Hey eagle congrats on a great season...so to clarify you only fade teams that have.a win perc lower than .470 on ciscos system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    Hey eagle congrats on a great season...so to clarify you only fade teams that have.a win perc lower than .470 on ciscos system?

    Thanks.  Actually under .471 (play .470 and lower).  This must be their winning pct when they win by 5+....doesn't matter after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:

    Hey eagle congrats on a great season...so to clarify you only fade teams that have.a win perc lower than .470 on ciscos system?

    Thanks.  Actually under .471 (play .470 and lower).  This must be their winning pct when they win by 5+....doesn't matter after that.
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