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    World Cup Preview and First Round Game picks thread.....

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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 6:08 AM ET #751

    Quote Originally Posted by JimTressel:


    van ya ur missing value by betting no draw @ that line....DRAW is -225 so no draw +120 seems like not fair @ all...way better to take one side +350 for 1 unit and 1 side +400

    still risking 2 units but u net 2.5 profit minimum this way and 3 if uruguay wins!  keep it up man :) youre doin sick 

    i think your lookin at the 1st half line, or maybe the wrong game. unless your bookie is screwing you on the draw line
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimTressel:


    van ya ur missing value by betting no draw @ that line....DRAW is -225 so no draw +120 seems like not fair @ all...way better to take one side +350 for 1 unit and 1 side +400

    still risking 2 units but u net 2.5 profit minimum this way and 3 if uruguay wins!  keep it up man :) youre doin sick 

    i think your lookin at the 1st half line, or maybe the wrong game. unless your bookie is screwing you on the draw line
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 8:38 AM ET #752

    the highest altitude have witnessed the higher goals/game avg...
    to 1499 metres.. = 1.809/game (21 games)
    1500 plus metres = 2.636/game (11 games)

    Obviously Portugal's thumping of a pathetic totalitarian team at sea level, and Spain's failure to do the same at altitude despite having as many, if not more, scoring chances as what Portugal had, has slightly skewed the relationship between these 2 averages.

    6/22 Mexico v. Uruguay is at 1500 metres.

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    the highest altitude have witnessed the higher goals/game avg...
    to 1499 metres.. = 1.809/game (21 games)
    1500 plus metres = 2.636/game (11 games)

    Obviously Portugal's thumping of a pathetic totalitarian team at sea level, and Spain's failure to do the same at altitude despite having as many, if not more, scoring chances as what Portugal had, has slightly skewed the relationship between these 2 averages.

    6/22 Mexico v. Uruguay is at 1500 metres.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 10:56 AM ET #753

    HT - These scores are PERFECT not only for my game bets, but future bets.....

    No goals in the second half.....

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    HT - These scores are PERFECT not only for my game bets, but future bets.....

    No goals in the second half.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 11:04 AM ET #754

    Well done sir. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

    It's kindof uncanny how accurately you've predicted the tournament thus far.

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    Well done sir. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

    It's kindof uncanny how accurately you've predicted the tournament thus far.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 11:30 AM ET #755

    Great job so far, Van. Very impressive

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    Great job so far, Van. Very impressive

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #756

    I really wish I could take Nia to win today to make my prediction of Tina 1st and them 2nd, but I don't like the odds. But it will fail, just like my Xico 1st and Uru 2nd play. Fully agree that So.Kor pk is the way to go

    keep up the great work man
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    I really wish I could take Nia to win today to make my prediction of Tina 1st and them 2nd, but I don't like the odds. But it will fail, just like my Xico 1st and Uru 2nd play. Fully agree that So.Kor pk is the way to go

    keep up the great work man
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 11:58 AM ET #758

    Current Record 17-8
    Up 36.34 units, Down 12 units
    TOTAL - Up +24.34 units

    Previous games...

    1.  SA / Mex over 2 -122 (1.5 units) -  PUSH
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units) - WIN
    3.  SK / Greec under 2 -103 (2 units) and 0-0 at +600 (.5 unit) - PUSH (lose .5 unit)
    4.  Argentina -200 (2 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    5.  USA / Eng over 2.5 +105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6.  SLV / ALG - no bet
    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units) - LOSS
    8.  Australia +1 +106 (1 unit) - LOSS
    9.  Netherlands -180 (1 unit) - WIN
    10.  Cameroon +112 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    11.  Paraguay +.5 (2.5 units) - WIN
    12.  Slovakia -.5 -200 (risked 1 unit) - LOSS
    13.  Ivory Coast / PTGL - no bet
    14.  Bzl / NK - no bet
    15.  Chile (2 units) - WIN
    16.  Switz +1.5 (.5 unit) - WIN
    17.  Uruguay PK -140 (5 units) - WIN
    18.  Arg / SK over +108 (1 unit) - WIN
    19.  Greece +.5 (2 units) - WIN
    20.  France +138 (3 units) - LOSS
    21.  Serbia +.5 +140 (1 unit) - WIN
    22.  Slovenia +.5 -116 (1unit) - WIN
    23.  Eng / Alg over 2.5 +108 (1 unit) - LOSS
    24.  Netherlands -200 (2 units) - WIN
    25.  Australia +.5 -112 (3 units) - WIN
    26.  Denmark PK -122 (3 units) - WIN
    27.  Paraguay -.5 +112 (3 units) - WIN
    28.  Italy/NZ - No Bet
    29.  CIV +.5 +130 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    30.  Portugal / NK - No bet
    31.  Switz / Chile - No bet
    32.  Spain / Honduras - No bet

    Futures...  GROUP A FUTURES ARE WINNERS!!!

    1.  Uruguay to advance +110 (2 units) - WIN 
    2.  Uruguay to win group A +400 (.5 unit) - WIN 
    3.  Argentina to win group B -220 (2 units)
    4.  Nigeria NOT to advance -118 (2 units)
    5.  England to win group C -320 (2 units)
    6.  USA NOT to advance +112 (3 units)
    7.  Serbia to win group D +330 (.5 unit)
    8.  Germany NOT to advance +387 (.5 unit)
    9.  Netherlands to win group E -145 (4 units)
    10.  Denmark to advance +105 (1 unit)
    11.  Japan zero points +360 (1 unit) - LOSS
    12.  Paraguay win group F +340 (1.5 units)
    13.  NZ no poings +100 (1 unit) - SICK LOSS
    14.  Portugal to advane -110 (1.5 units)
    15.  NK zero points -140 (2 units)
    16.  Switz to advance +160 (1 unit)
    17.  Argentina to win tournament +725 (6 units risked)
    18.  Argentina / Neth final +3300 (.5 unit)
    19.  No african team to advance +1200 (1 unit)
    20.  No african team qtr finals +165 (2 units)

    Tuesday June 22

    33.  South Africa / France - South Africa PK +135 (2 units) - If you are looking for something insightful on why I am taking SA, sorry, you wont get it here.  Im taking them for every obvious reason possible.  Its an easy equation for me:  the France situation + SA home game + SA at plus odds = an autobet.  How could anyone bet on France here?  Of course they can win, and of course they are more talented - and if you told me at the beginning of the tournament that I would be betting SA in this game I would have told you that you were crazy - but I cant NOT bet SA here.  Predicted final score SA 2 France 1.  

    34.  Mexico / Uruguay - No draw +130 (2 units) - Alright, so the obvious result here is a draw right?  So this exact situation has only happened once in the last 20 years of World Cups and Euro tournaments - it was 1996 Euro in group A - England and the Netherlands were on 4 points each and playing each other, and Scotland and Switz were on 1 point each and playing each other.  A draw would put England and the Netherlands through - but England won 4-1.  There are 3 other examples where 2 teams were on 4 points, one on 2 and one on 0 and the two top teams played each other.  In these cases -  2 times there was a draw - and 1 time no draw.  The most famous of these was at the 2004 Euro when fellow Scandinavians Denmark and Sweden played to a famous 2-2 draw that was later investigated. 

    Add all of this to the fact that if there is a draw here - Mexico plays Argentina while Uruguay gets Korea, Nigeria, or Greece.  Do you really think Mexico doesnt know this and wont be trying to win?  Final score prediction - Uruguay 2 Mexico 1.  

    35.  Argentina / Greece - No Bet -  It is taking all of my will power not to bet Argentina -160 here.  Maradona has said that he will start Messi and Veron, and that they are playing to win and taking it like a normal game.  Greece played a horrendous, disgusting, and putrid 115 minutes of soccer before getting a Nigerian red card which turned it on a dime for them - but I cant forget what I saw.  I have no belief that they will be able to do anything, especially in a situaiton where they must win - and play a style that they are uncomfortable with and not very good at.  But I cant ignore that 160 is a lot to pay for a team that has little motivation, against a team that is playing for their lives.  My heart tells me this one ends up 3-0 for Argentina, but my head tells me not to bet it and my money remains in my pocket.  Final predicted score - Argentina 3 Greece 0.

    36.  South Korea / Nigeria - South Korea PK -123 (2 units) - If Nigeria win, and Greece lose, Nigeria goes through.  Nigeria knows this - but of course the S Koreans do too.  Nigeria has injuries and a suspension - Taiwo might play but is hobbled and was substituted for in the last game - and Kaita is out serving a red card suspension.  I have been impressed by the Koreans play - even in the 4-1 loss to Argentina they always looked poised and playing well - up until the final two late goals.  They looked great against Greece - and I think this is the type of disciplined team that will not panic and will counterattack against a desperate Nigerian team.  Nigeria + desperation = lapses; and I wouldnt be surprised to see Korea take advantage of tons of space on the counterattack and turnovers in the midfield.  If Nigeria get an early goal, it will play to their strength and against Koreas - but the longer it is scoreless the better chance I see of Korea scoring (if that makes sense).  Predicted final score South Korea 1 Nigeria 0.

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    Current Record 17-8
    Up 36.34 units, Down 12 units
    TOTAL - Up +24.34 units

    Previous games...

    1.  SA / Mex over 2 -122 (1.5 units) -  PUSH
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units) - WIN
    3.  SK / Greec under 2 -103 (2 units) and 0-0 at +600 (.5 unit) - PUSH (lose .5 unit)
    4.  Argentina -200 (2 units to win 1 unit) - WIN
    5.  USA / Eng over 2.5 +105 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6.  SLV / ALG - no bet
    7.  Serbia +116 (2 units) - LOSS
    8.  Australia +1 +106 (1 unit) - LOSS
    9.  Netherlands -180 (1 unit) - WIN
    10.  Cameroon +112 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    11.  Paraguay +.5 (2.5 units) - WIN
    12.  Slovakia -.5 -200 (risked 1 unit) - LOSS
    13.  Ivory Coast / PTGL - no bet
    14.  Bzl / NK - no bet
    15.  Chile (2 units) - WIN
    16.  Switz +1.5 (.5 unit) - WIN
    17.  Uruguay PK -140 (5 units) - WIN
    18.  Arg / SK over +108 (1 unit) - WIN
    19.  Greece +.5 (2 units) - WIN
    20.  France +138 (3 units) - LOSS
    21.  Serbia +.5 +140 (1 unit) - WIN
    22.  Slovenia +.5 -116 (1unit) - WIN
    23.  Eng / Alg over 2.5 +108 (1 unit) - LOSS
    24.  Netherlands -200 (2 units) - WIN
    25.  Australia +.5 -112 (3 units) - WIN
    26.  Denmark PK -122 (3 units) - WIN
    27.  Paraguay -.5 +112 (3 units) - WIN
    28.  Italy/NZ - No Bet
    29.  CIV +.5 +130 (.5 unit) - LOSS
    30.  Portugal / NK - No bet
    31.  Switz / Chile - No bet
    32.  Spain / Honduras - No bet

    Futures...  GROUP A FUTURES ARE WINNERS!!!

    1.  Uruguay to advance +110 (2 units) - WIN 
    2.  Uruguay to win group A +400 (.5 unit) - WIN 
    3.  Argentina to win group B -220 (2 units)
    4.  Nigeria NOT to advance -118 (2 units)
    5.  England to win group C -320 (2 units)
    6.  USA NOT to advance +112 (3 units)
    7.  Serbia to win group D +330 (.5 unit)
    8.  Germany NOT to advance +387 (.5 unit)
    9.  Netherlands to win group E -145 (4 units)
    10.  Denmark to advance +105 (1 unit)
    11.  Japan zero points +360 (1 unit) - LOSS
    12.  Paraguay win group F +340 (1.5 units)
    13.  NZ no poings +100 (1 unit) - SICK LOSS
    14.  Portugal to advane -110 (1.5 units)
    15.  NK zero points -140 (2 units)
    16.  Switz to advance +160 (1 unit)
    17.  Argentina to win tournament +725 (6 units risked)
    18.  Argentina / Neth final +3300 (.5 unit)
    19.  No african team to advance +1200 (1 unit)
    20.  No african team qtr finals +165 (2 units)

    Tuesday June 22

    33.  South Africa / France - South Africa PK +135 (2 units) - If you are looking for something insightful on why I am taking SA, sorry, you wont get it here.  Im taking them for every obvious reason possible.  Its an easy equation for me:  the France situation + SA home game + SA at plus odds = an autobet.  How could anyone bet on France here?  Of course they can win, and of course they are more talented - and if you told me at the beginning of the tournament that I would be betting SA in this game I would have told you that you were crazy - but I cant NOT bet SA here.  Predicted final score SA 2 France 1.  

    34.  Mexico / Uruguay - No draw +130 (2 units) - Alright, so the obvious result here is a draw right?  So this exact situation has only happened once in the last 20 years of World Cups and Euro tournaments - it was 1996 Euro in group A - England and the Netherlands were on 4 points each and playing each other, and Scotland and Switz were on 1 point each and playing each other.  A draw would put England and the Netherlands through - but England won 4-1.  There are 3 other examples where 2 teams were on 4 points, one on 2 and one on 0 and the two top teams played each other.  In these cases -  2 times there was a draw - and 1 time no draw.  The most famous of these was at the 2004 Euro when fellow Scandinavians Denmark and Sweden played to a famous 2-2 draw that was later investigated. 

    Add all of this to the fact that if there is a draw here - Mexico plays Argentina while Uruguay gets Korea, Nigeria, or Greece.  Do you really think Mexico doesnt know this and wont be trying to win?  Final score prediction - Uruguay 2 Mexico 1.  

    35.  Argentina / Greece - No Bet -  It is taking all of my will power not to bet Argentina -160 here.  Maradona has said that he will start Messi and Veron, and that they are playing to win and taking it like a normal game.  Greece played a horrendous, disgusting, and putrid 115 minutes of soccer before getting a Nigerian red card which turned it on a dime for them - but I cant forget what I saw.  I have no belief that they will be able to do anything, especially in a situaiton where they must win - and play a style that they are uncomfortable with and not very good at.  But I cant ignore that 160 is a lot to pay for a team that has little motivation, against a team that is playing for their lives.  My heart tells me this one ends up 3-0 for Argentina, but my head tells me not to bet it and my money remains in my pocket.  Final predicted score - Argentina 3 Greece 0.

    36.  South Korea / Nigeria - South Korea PK -123 (2 units) - If Nigeria win, and Greece lose, Nigeria goes through.  Nigeria knows this - but of course the S Koreans do too.  Nigeria has injuries and a suspension - Taiwo might play but is hobbled and was substituted for in the last game - and Kaita is out serving a red card suspension.  I have been impressed by the Koreans play - even in the 4-1 loss to Argentina they always looked poised and playing well - up until the final two late goals.  They looked great against Greece - and I think this is the type of disciplined team that will not panic and will counterattack against a desperate Nigerian team.  Nigeria + desperation = lapses; and I wouldnt be surprised to see Korea take advantage of tons of space on the counterattack and turnovers in the midfield.  If Nigeria get an early goal, it will play to their strength and against Koreas - but the longer it is scoreless the better chance I see of Korea scoring (if that makes sense).  Predicted final score South Korea 1 Nigeria 0.

    GL ALL!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:00 PM ET #760

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I am on Germany large and it will be larger by gametime.

    I started buying at -170, and am giving a goal too.  Will probably end up being one of my biggest bets of the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I am on Germany large and it will be larger by gametime.

    I started buying at -170, and am giving a goal too.  Will probably end up being one of my biggest bets of the tournament.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:00 PM ET #761

    Amazing........

    GREAT WORK VAN!

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    Amazing........

    GREAT WORK VAN!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:06 PM ET #762

    Great start to the day Van
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    Great start to the day Van
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:14 PM ET #763

    Van, you are the soccer god! Waiting for the SKOR game, i tailed on that one. Can't wait for your preview for tomorrow's matches.
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    Van, you are the soccer god! Waiting for the SKOR game, i tailed on that one. Can't wait for your preview for tomorrow's matches.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:14 PM ET #764

    France playing for pride

    France 1 goal at the whole World Cup

    This ridiculous run I am on

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    France playing for pride

    France 1 goal at the whole World Cup

    This ridiculous run I am on

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:21 PM ET #765

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    France playing for pride

    France 1 goal at the whole World Cup

    This ridiculous run I am on



    please dont jinx urself...u have a lot of tailers, including me
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    France playing for pride

    France 1 goal at the whole World Cup

    This ridiculous run I am on



    please dont jinx urself...u have a lot of tailers, including me
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:24 PM ET #766

    Great pick again   Vanzack
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    Great pick again   Vanzack
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:24 PM ET #767

    VZACK....i know NOTHING about world cup soccer,but tailed you because you kicked ass for me 2 years ago in cbb ov/unders,and here you prove again you are a genius  Thanks and GL on your 2:30 games
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    VZACK....i know NOTHING about world cup soccer,but tailed you because you kicked ass for me 2 years ago in cbb ov/unders,and here you prove again you are a genius  Thanks and GL on your 2:30 games
     
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    Another solid start Van! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcook:



    please dont jinx urself...u have a lot of tailers, including me

    Jinx

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    please dont jinx urself...u have a lot of tailers, including me

    Jinx

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:36 PM ET #771

    Thanks a lot guys....

    Very nice.

    Im just on a lucky run.

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    Thanks a lot guys....

    Very nice.

    Im just on a lucky run.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:42 PM ET #772

    Van -- thank you so much for your plays. I look like I have a great chance of going 4-4 on my futures based on your thoughts and analysis (to win their groups: Netherlands, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Argentina).


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    Van -- thank you so much for your plays. I look like I have a great chance of going 4-4 on my futures based on your thoughts and analysis (to win their groups: Netherlands, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Argentina).


     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:44 PM ET #773

    You're the man Van, I wasn't even going to bet the World Cup and I decided to tail you after reading your initial write-ups.  Cheers!
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    You're the man Van, I wasn't even going to bet the World Cup and I decided to tail you after reading your initial write-ups.  Cheers!
     
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    great run van!

    to follow up on betcrimes elevation of stadiums post: Nigeria and South Korea are playing at 0m altitude

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    great run van!

    to follow up on betcrimes elevation of stadiums post: Nigeria and South Korea are playing at 0m altitude

    under...

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 12:55 PM ET #775

    great work van

    you're the new phenomenon . dont let them run you out of town .

    and if they do , you got a yacht , so you'll be okay , just go sailing.

    cheers playa . fuck the haterzzzz

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    great work van

    you're the new phenomenon . dont let them run you out of town .

    and if they do , you got a yacht , so you'll be okay , just go sailing.

    cheers playa . fuck the haterzzzz

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