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    Knockout Rounds thread - only 15 games to go......

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    vanzack
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:19 AM ET #251

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdpig:

    Spain's win  sure cleared up my thoughts.  4 teams from SA, 3 from Europe, and one from Africa. Predictions: Using past world cup and Euro 2008 scores.

    Brazil 1 Holland 0

    Germany 3 Argentina 2

    Spain 2 Paraguay 0

    Uruguay 2 Ghana 1

    Im still putting my thoughts together on these games - I think they get tougher and tougher - but I do know that I will be on Argentina.

    The rest have yet to be decided...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdpig:

    Spain's win  sure cleared up my thoughts.  4 teams from SA, 3 from Europe, and one from Africa. Predictions: Using past world cup and Euro 2008 scores.

    Brazil 1 Holland 0

    Germany 3 Argentina 2

    Spain 2 Paraguay 0

    Uruguay 2 Ghana 1

    Im still putting my thoughts together on these games - I think they get tougher and tougher - but I do know that I will be on Argentina.

    The rest have yet to be decided...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:22 AM ET #252

    If you want a free $100 at BetJamaica (I received the covers giveaway, I will pass it on to winner), guess the correct score of the Brazil Netherlands match.  First posted correct score wins.

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    If you want a free $100 at BetJamaica (I received the covers giveaway, I will pass it on to winner), guess the correct score of the Brazil Netherlands match.  First posted correct score wins.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:42 AM ET #253

    Very generous of you Van.

    I'll go with 1-1 through 90 minutes. Brazil wins 2-1 in extra time.

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    Very generous of you Van.

    I'll go with 1-1 through 90 minutes. Brazil wins 2-1 in extra time.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:42 AM ET #254

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    If you want a free $100 at BetJamaica (I received the covers giveaway, I will pass it on to winner), guess the correct score of the Brazil Netherlands match.  First posted correct score wins.



    2-1 Netherland wins
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    If you want a free $100 at BetJamaica (I received the covers giveaway, I will pass it on to winner), guess the correct score of the Brazil Netherlands match.  First posted correct score wins.



    2-1 Netherland wins
     
    vanzack
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:44 AM ET #255

    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Very generous of you Van.

    I'll go with 1-1 through 90 minutes. Brazil wins 2-1 in extra time.

    SORRY - DIDNT SPECIFY IN MY ORIGINAL POST - ONLY 90 MINUTES TO MAKE IT EASY....

    WInner will be correct score after 90 mins....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Very generous of you Van.

    I'll go with 1-1 through 90 minutes. Brazil wins 2-1 in extra time.

    SORRY - DIDNT SPECIFY IN MY ORIGINAL POST - ONLY 90 MINUTES TO MAKE IT EASY....

    WInner will be correct score after 90 mins....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:46 AM ET #256

    Alright, I'll go with 1-1 then.....thanks again Van!
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    Alright, I'll go with 1-1 then.....thanks again Van!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:49 AM ET #257

    damn, Livan33 is going to win with 1-1. I'll take 0-0
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    damn, Livan33 is going to win with 1-1. I'll take 0-0
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:52 AM ET #258

    The funny thing is that we'll have a pretty good idea of who is going to win this little competition as soon as Van posts his prediction.
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    The funny thing is that we'll have a pretty good idea of who is going to win this little competition as soon as Van posts his prediction.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:55 AM ET #259

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    If you want a free $100 at BetJamaica (I received the covers giveaway, I will pass it on to winner), guess the correct score of the Brazil Netherlands match.  First posted correct score wins.


    brazil wins 3-1 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    If you want a free $100 at BetJamaica (I received the covers giveaway, I will pass it on to winner), guess the correct score of the Brazil Netherlands match.  First posted correct score wins.


    brazil wins 3-1 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:55 AM ET #260

    1-0 Brazil
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    1-0 Brazil
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 11:13 AM ET #261

    BRA 2, NED 1 after 90 minutes.
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    BRA 2, NED 1 after 90 minutes.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 11:16 AM ET #262

    Brazil 3

    Holland 2

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    Brazil 3

    Holland 2

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #263

    2-0 Brazil
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    2-0 Brazil
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:15 PM ET #264

    1-0 Holland

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    1-0 Holland

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:15 PM ET #265

    I'm thinking of putting a few units on this one:

    Holland - Brazil   ***   Over 2 goals
    Uruguay - Ghana   ***   Uruguay ML
    Argentina - Germany   ***   Germany to qualify
    Paraguay - Spain   ***   Spain -1

    @ 1450


    What do you think?  
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    I'm thinking of putting a few units on this one:

    Holland - Brazil   ***   Over 2 goals
    Uruguay - Ghana   ***   Uruguay ML
    Argentina - Germany   ***   Germany to qualify
    Paraguay - Spain   ***   Spain -1

    @ 1450


    What do you think?  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:19 PM ET #266

    Quote Originally Posted by peri:

    I'm thinking of putting a few units on this one:

    Holland - Brazil   ***   Over 2 goals
    Uruguay - Ghana   ***   Uruguay ML
    Argentina - Germany   ***   Germany to qualify
    Paraguay - Spain   ***   Spain -1

    @ 1450


    What do you think?  

    I think Argentina wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peri:

    I'm thinking of putting a few units on this one:

    Holland - Brazil   ***   Over 2 goals
    Uruguay - Ghana   ***   Uruguay ML
    Argentina - Germany   ***   Germany to qualify
    Paraguay - Spain   ***   Spain -1

    @ 1450


    What do you think?  

    I think Argentina wins.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:23 PM ET #267

    1-1 brazil 5-4 in PKS
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    1-1 brazil 5-4 in PKS
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:26 PM ET #268

    Quote Originally Posted by betshark101:

    1-1 brazil 5-4 in PKS

    Already have a 1-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betshark101:

    1-1 brazil 5-4 in PKS

    Already have a 1-1.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:30 PM ET #269

    3-1 brazil ... thanks ...
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    3-1 brazil ... thanks ...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:31 PM ET #270

    Van... Do you see any value in playing Netherlands +1 with heavy juice in a parlay with: Uruguay ML, Argentina ML and Spain ML? 

    Or... should I just leave them out of the equation? 

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    Van... Do you see any value in playing Netherlands +1 with heavy juice in a parlay with: Uruguay ML, Argentina ML and Spain ML? 

    Or... should I just leave them out of the equation? 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:32 PM ET #271

    Very nice of you Van...looks I'll have to go with a 2-2 tie through 90 minutes
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    Very nice of you Van...looks I'll have to go with a 2-2 tie through 90 minutes
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:37 PM ET #272

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Van... Do you see any value in playing Netherlands +1 with heavy juice in a parlay with: Uruguay ML, Argentina ML and Spain ML? 

    Or... should I just leave them out of the equation? 

    Let me start by asking a simple question....

    Why are you betting a parlay when none of the games start at the same time?  Why not just roll the money over and choose which ones you like most and wager accordingly?

    In a parlay, you have an equal weight to all games.  If you are struggling on one of them, why not simply bet less on that game, and keep rolling over the money?

    Not bashing at all - just questioning the idea of betting a parlay when you can effectively do the same thing but better by tailoring it to your needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Van... Do you see any value in playing Netherlands +1 with heavy juice in a parlay with: Uruguay ML, Argentina ML and Spain ML? 

    Or... should I just leave them out of the equation? 

    Let me start by asking a simple question....

    Why are you betting a parlay when none of the games start at the same time?  Why not just roll the money over and choose which ones you like most and wager accordingly?

    In a parlay, you have an equal weight to all games.  If you are struggling on one of them, why not simply bet less on that game, and keep rolling over the money?

    Not bashing at all - just questioning the idea of betting a parlay when you can effectively do the same thing but better by tailoring it to your needs.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:53 PM ET #273

    buy $BTC
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 1:20 PM ET #274

    Game Picks

    Current Record 26-13
    Up 54.76 units, Down 24.73 units
    TOTAL - Up +30.03 units

    Futures... 

    Current Record  8-10
    Up 20.8 Units, Down 17.4 units
    Total Up +3.4 units

    PENDING FUTURES:
    17.  Argentina to win tournament +725 (6 units risked)
    18.  Argentina / Neth final +3300 (.5 unit)

    Friday July 2

    57.  Netherlands / Brazil - Netherlands +.5 +100 (1 unit), Netherlands to advance +195 (1 unit) - I tried, but I just cant get off of this one.  The line is making me bet the Dutch, I cant say no.  Apparantly, people betting the World Cup have very short memories as every line seems to reflect a teams latest performance - including all QF games and most before it.

    Hollands defense has looked great until Slovakia.  If Slovakia could finish (specifically Vittek), they coulda shoulda won or at least been in the hunt.  They had some point blank opportunities where they had an unmarked guy standing in front of goal with the ball, only to do nothing with it.  The goal at the end was actually not the worst of the Dutch defending - just an unlucky bounce of a deflected shot that went to the only person it could have to make an offensive move.  So this scares me - but it goes against what the Dutch did in their first 3 games - and have been concentrating on in the leadup to the WC - which is strength and organization at the back.  Their defense should be solid - and if so - their midfield can hang with anybody bar none.  Robben is obviously the X factor - when he is out there the moves go through him and he seems to take control - and I think he is close to 100% at this point.  I wish they would start Eljero Elia - he has been coming in late to games - but has control and speed that especially against Brazil might serve the Dutch very well.

    Brazil comes in without Elano who is hurt, and maybe Felipe Melo too.  Not that that is a huge problem for them.  Im not going to attempt to make a case that Brazil is not great in almost every facet of the game - I just dont believe they are unbeatable.  In 2006 at the WC, in the quarterfinals Brazil also looked unbeatable, and lost to France who had not looked great and were a bigger favorite than they are against the Dutch.  Brazil will probably try to defend and counterattack - which might serve the Dutch well - if they can hold possession and stay organized and disciplined.  Constant Brazilian breaks will eventually pay off - so the Dutch must use the possession efficiently and make their chances pay off.

    I think this is a very even contest, and because they are paying me to do so - my money is on the Netherlands.  Final predicted score Brazil 1 Netherlands 1 (after 90) and it goes to PK's.

    58.  Ghana / Uruguay - Uruguay -.5 +113 (90 minutes) (1 unit), Uruguay to advance -185 (1 unit) - At first glance, my thoughts were to bet Ghana at +170ish to advance.  I just had the opinion that this was a much closer game than that, and that perhaps we have reached the point where Uruguay was getting a little too much love from the betting public.  But what took me off of them is the injuries and suspensions. 

    Ghana loses for me, possibly their 3 best performers so far in the WC - Jonathan Mensah (just Jonathan on his shirt) who has clearly been their best defender (plays center back) - Ayew who has been their best danger up front - and Kevin Prince Boateng (who might still play, has a thigh injury that he was subbed for against US) who has been the man in charge and a physical presence all over the field.  I cant get past that loss.  Gyan is the other striker - and he has consistently failed to finish until the US game.  He had tons of opportunities against Germany and squandered it time after time - add to that that he picked up a twisted ankle in practice yesterday and left with an ice pack early.  Ghana only scored 2 goals in their first three games before the US game - both on penalties - and I dont see how that finishing gets better with their best 2 strikers in limbo.

    Uruguay has looked great, until lots of the S Korea game.  When they were tied (for 20 minutes total) they looked awesome, and when they were winning (for the other 70 minutes) they looked very beatable.   Im not sure what that means, except maybe they dont have that killer instinct to finish off games professionally.  Suarez is getting lots of love but I see the empty half of the glass too - he has missed tons of chances and loses possession a lot.  I feel a little for Forlan as he has taken a backseat as he has become the playmaker up there - feeding the gluttoness Suarez.  But there is little to criticize overall on Uruguay - their defense has been solid - goalkeeping solid - and up front they look dangerous.  I do worry about their mindset if they get a lead with this kind of pressure, but not any more than I worry about Ghanas mindset if they get a goal down to panic.

    I go against my initial lean and bet Uruguay here and pay what I feel is too much on the wager.  Predicted final score Uruguay 2 Ghana 0

    GL all

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    57.  Netherlands / Brazil - Netherlands +.5 +100 (1 unit), Netherlands to advance +195 (1 unit) - I tried, but I just cant get off of this one.  The line is making me bet the Dutch, I cant say no.  Apparantly, people betting the World Cup have very short memories as every line seems to reflect a teams latest performance - including all QF games and most before it.

    Hollands defense has looked great until Slovakia.  If Slovakia could finish (specifically Vittek), they coulda shoulda won or at least been in the hunt.  They had some point blank opportunities where they had an unmarked guy standing in front of goal with the ball, only to do nothing with it.  The goal at the end was actually not the worst of the Dutch defending - just an unlucky bounce of a deflected shot that went to the only person it could have to make an offensive move.  So this scares me - but it goes against what the Dutch did in their first 3 games - and have been concentrating on in the leadup to the WC - which is strength and organization at the back.  Their defense should be solid - and if so - their midfield can hang with anybody bar none.  Robben is obviously the X factor - when he is out there the moves go through him and he seems to take control - and I think he is close to 100% at this point.  I wish they would start Eljero Elia - he has been coming in late to games - but has control and speed that especially against Brazil might serve the Dutch very well.

    Brazil comes in without Elano who is hurt, and maybe Felipe Melo too.  Not that that is a huge problem for them.  Im not going to attempt to make a case that Brazil is not great in almost every facet of the game - I just dont believe they are unbeatable.  In 2006 at the WC, in the quarterfinals Brazil also looked unbeatable, and lost to France who had not looked great and were a bigger favorite than they are against the Dutch.  Brazil will probably try to defend and counterattack - which might serve the Dutch well - if they can hold possession and stay organized and disciplined.  Constant Brazilian breaks will eventually pay off - so the Dutch must use the possession efficiently and make their chances pay off.

    I think this is a very even contest, and because they are paying me to do so - my money is on the Netherlands.  Final predicted score Brazil 1 Netherlands 1 (after 90) and it goes to PK's.

    58.  Ghana / Uruguay - Uruguay -.5 +113 (90 minutes) (1 unit), Uruguay to advance -185 (1 unit) - At first glance, my thoughts were to bet Ghana at +170ish to advance.  I just had the opinion that this was a much closer game than that, and that perhaps we have reached the point where Uruguay was getting a little too much love from the betting public.  But what took me off of them is the injuries and suspensions. 

    Ghana loses for me, possibly their 3 best performers so far in the WC - Jonathan Mensah (just Jonathan on his shirt) who has clearly been their best defender (plays center back) - Ayew who has been their best danger up front - and Kevin Prince Boateng (who might still play, has a thigh injury that he was subbed for against US) who has been the man in charge and a physical presence all over the field.  I cant get past that loss.  Gyan is the other striker - and he has consistently failed to finish until the US game.  He had tons of opportunities against Germany and squandered it time after time - add to that that he picked up a twisted ankle in practice yesterday and left with an ice pack early.  Ghana only scored 2 goals in their first three games before the US game - both on penalties - and I dont see how that finishing gets better with their best 2 strikers in limbo.

    Uruguay has looked great, until lots of the S Korea game.  When they were tied (for 20 minutes total) they looked awesome, and when they were winning (for the other 70 minutes) they looked very beatable.   Im not sure what that means, except maybe they dont have that killer instinct to finish off games professionally.  Suarez is getting lots of love but I see the empty half of the glass too - he has missed tons of chances and loses possession a lot.  I feel a little for Forlan as he has taken a backseat as he has become the playmaker up there - feeding the gluttoness Suarez.  But there is little to criticize overall on Uruguay - their defense has been solid - goalkeeping solid - and up front they look dangerous.  I do worry about their mindset if they get a lead with this kind of pressure, but not any more than I worry about Ghanas mindset if they get a goal down to panic.

    I go against my initial lean and bet Uruguay here and pay what I feel is too much on the wager.  Predicted final score Uruguay 2 Ghana 0

    GL all

     
     
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