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    gamblingallday
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:01 PM ET #226

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Tough way to go out for Japan -

    maybe they should consider stopping the slaughter of dolphins and whales for better karma.



    lol I learned about The Cove from your previous avatar. After reading about it, I couldnt watch it because I didnt think I could stomach it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Tough way to go out for Japan -

    maybe they should consider stopping the slaughter of dolphins and whales for better karma.



    lol I learned about The Cove from your previous avatar. After reading about it, I couldnt watch it because I didnt think I could stomach it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:03 PM ET #227

    Great job again Van... tailed you on the draw pick, shoulda listened better on the 0-0.....thanks again for your efforts, good luck this afternoon buddy 

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    Great job again Van... tailed you on the draw pick, shoulda listened better on the 0-0.....thanks again for your efforts, good luck this afternoon buddy 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:03 PM ET #228

    Great job again Van... tailed you on the draw pick, shoulda listened better on the 0-0.....thanks again for your efforts, good luck this afternoon buddy 

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    Great job again Van... tailed you on the draw pick, shoulda listened better on the 0-0.....thanks again for your efforts, good luck this afternoon buddy 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:16 PM ET #229

    buy $BTC
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:21 PM ET #230

    liking Portugal as well

    GL

    Bet 5 Play Over Parlays and get rich
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    liking Portugal as well

    GL

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:23 PM ET #231

    Vanzack can you add any input to my thread "More Hedge advice"

    Thanks

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    Vanzack can you add any input to my thread "More Hedge advice"

    Thanks

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:48 PM ET #232

    Nicely done, Van. I love looking at your plays late at night, playing the early soccer game, then waking up to a winner. You just won me 12 units on 0-0 draw. Thanks, and keep it coming! You've got a tail for the rest of the tourny....
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    Nicely done, Van. I love looking at your plays late at night, playing the early soccer game, then waking up to a winner. You just won me 12 units on 0-0 draw. Thanks, and keep it coming! You've got a tail for the rest of the tourny....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 1:53 PM ET #233

    hey Van....what do you think about Port. to score first +130?
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    hey Van....what do you think about Port. to score first +130?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 2:36 PM ET #234

    Van,we played Port+1/2 but you think its going to OT,did I miss it and you said to bet the draw also? Or just go with the 1/2 as you think they could win in reg.?

     this game is hard to bet,lol

    Congrats again and GL on sec game.

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    Van,we played Port+1/2 but you think its going to OT,did I miss it and you said to bet the draw also? Or just go with the 1/2 as you think they could win in reg.?

     this game is hard to bet,lol

    Congrats again and GL on sec game.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 3:07 PM ET #235

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Thats fucking beautiful.

      Superb stuff vanzack

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Thats fucking beautiful.

      Superb stuff vanzack

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 3:08 PM ET #236

    Van,

    I have always read your threads and you are a very astute gambler. Wagering on sports isn't always about finding the best bets but in finding the lines that are vulnerable and betting them when it is right and then selling when it is right also to maximize your profits, similar to the stock market. While I wish I had the position to do these things, your insight and knowledge has great to read and while I can't speak for others here I know that it has helped me. I associate sports wagering to real life in that although you think you know it all, you should try to learn something new every day as you will be better for it.

     

    Enough about that, my question to you is since you have exposed soccer to the national Covers limelight and although it is time consuming, will you ever post your picks for friendlies and international leagues that you wager on as I think everyone here would be very happy that you did so. Either way because it is so time consuming I understand but you are an asset here at Covers in a forum that sometimes is corrupted by stupidity.

     

     

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    Van,

    I have always read your threads and you are a very astute gambler. Wagering on sports isn't always about finding the best bets but in finding the lines that are vulnerable and betting them when it is right and then selling when it is right also to maximize your profits, similar to the stock market. While I wish I had the position to do these things, your insight and knowledge has great to read and while I can't speak for others here I know that it has helped me. I associate sports wagering to real life in that although you think you know it all, you should try to learn something new every day as you will be better for it.

     

    Enough about that, my question to you is since you have exposed soccer to the national Covers limelight and although it is time consuming, will you ever post your picks for friendlies and international leagues that you wager on as I think everyone here would be very happy that you did so. Either way because it is so time consuming I understand but you are an asset here at Covers in a forum that sometimes is corrupted by stupidity.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 3:13 PM ET #237

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscarxena:

    Enough about that, my question to you is since you have exposed soccer to the national Covers limelight and although it is time consuming, will you ever post your picks for friendlies and international leagues that you wager on as I think everyone here would be very happy that you did so. Either way because it is so time consuming I understand but you are an asset here at Covers in a forum that sometimes is corrupted by stupidity.

    Well said, it has been a pleasure to read his analysis every day. It would be wonderful if he would hang around the Soccer forum for the rest of the year.

    Based on what he said earlier in the tournament though, I don't know that there is much of a chance of this happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscarxena:

    Enough about that, my question to you is since you have exposed soccer to the national Covers limelight and although it is time consuming, will you ever post your picks for friendlies and international leagues that you wager on as I think everyone here would be very happy that you did so. Either way because it is so time consuming I understand but you are an asset here at Covers in a forum that sometimes is corrupted by stupidity.

    Well said, it has been a pleasure to read his analysis every day. It would be wonderful if he would hang around the Soccer forum for the rest of the year.

    Based on what he said earlier in the tournament though, I don't know that there is much of a chance of this happening.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 3:16 PM ET #238

    wow
    Torres is just useless for Spain
    solid first half for Portugal
    half way there
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    wow
    Torres is just useless for Spain
    solid first half for Portugal
    half way there
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 4:31 PM ET #239

    buy $BTC
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 4:49 PM ET #240

    great job vanzack
    from Argentina, we salute u

    even though i want all south american teams in the semis...i thnk spain is a lock against paraguay

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    great job vanzack
    from Argentina, we salute u

    even though i want all south american teams in the semis...i thnk spain is a lock against paraguay

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 7:40 PM ET #241

    Van, agree with the comments on Japan's karma, its tough to feel bad for them.  GL
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    Van, agree with the comments on Japan's karma, its tough to feel bad for them.  GL
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 8:44 PM ET #242

    Van... let's put our heads together and come up with a value parlay for the 4 games.  I have another thread dedicated to this.  Please chime in. 
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    Van... let's put our heads together and come up with a value parlay for the 4 games.  I have another thread dedicated to this.  Please chime in. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 11:25 PM ET #243

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Van... let's put our heads together and come up with a value parlay for the 4 games.  I have another thread dedicated to this.  Please chime in. 

    "value parlay"..... sounds like an oxymoron to me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Van... let's put our heads together and come up with a value parlay for the 4 games.  I have another thread dedicated to this.  Please chime in. 

    "value parlay"..... sounds like an oxymoron to me....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 11:29 PM ET #244

    Spain's win  sure cleared up my thoughts.  4 teams from SA, 3 from Europe, and one from Africa. Predictions: Using past world cup and Euro 2008 scores.

    Brazil 1 Holland 0

    Germany 3 Argentina 2

    Spain 2 Paraguay 0

    Uruguay 2 Ghana 1

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    Spain's win  sure cleared up my thoughts.  4 teams from SA, 3 from Europe, and one from Africa. Predictions: Using past world cup and Euro 2008 scores.

    Brazil 1 Holland 0

    Germany 3 Argentina 2

    Spain 2 Paraguay 0

    Uruguay 2 Ghana 1

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 11:32 PM ET #245

    2018 or 2022 World Cup USA

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    2018 or 2022 World Cup USA

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2010 - 11:55 PM ET #246

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdpig:

    Spain's win  sure cleared up my thoughts.  4 teams from SA, 3 from Europe, and one from Africa. Predictions: Using past world cup and Euro 2008 scores.

    Brazil 1 Holland 0

    Germany 3 Argentina 2

    Spain 2 Paraguay 0

    Uruguay 2 Ghana 1



    Holland won't be shut out, that's not happening.

    Agree with you on the others though, Spain is definitely shutting out Paraguay, but that could be another 1-0 game as i think Paraguay will look to drop back and lock it down on defense .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdpig:

    Spain's win  sure cleared up my thoughts.  4 teams from SA, 3 from Europe, and one from Africa. Predictions: Using past world cup and Euro 2008 scores.

    Brazil 1 Holland 0

    Germany 3 Argentina 2

    Spain 2 Paraguay 0

    Uruguay 2 Ghana 1



    Holland won't be shut out, that's not happening.

    Agree with you on the others though, Spain is definitely shutting out Paraguay, but that could be another 1-0 game as i think Paraguay will look to drop back and lock it down on defense .
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:07 AM ET #247

    Just my two cents, personally think the winner of Brazil/Netherlands wins the Cup.



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    Just my two cents, personally think the winner of Brazil/Netherlands wins the Cup.



     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 12:10 AM ET #248

    Let's bounce back Van :)
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    Let's bounce back Van :)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2010 - 10:16 AM ET #249

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscarxena:

    Van,

    I have always read your threads and you are a very astute gambler. Wagering on sports isn't always about finding the best bets but in finding the lines that are vulnerable and betting them when it is right and then selling when it is right also to maximize your profits, similar to the stock market. While I wish I had the position to do these things, your insight and knowledge has great to read and while I can't speak for others here I know that it has helped me. I associate sports wagering to real life in that although you think you know it all, you should try to learn something new every day as you will be better for it.

     

    Enough about that, my question to you is since you have exposed soccer to the national Covers limelight and although it is time consuming, will you ever post your picks for friendlies and international leagues that you wager on as I think everyone here would be very happy that you did so. Either way because it is so time consuming I understand but you are an asset here at Covers in a forum that sometimes is corrupted by stupidity.

     

     

    First, thanks for the nice words.

    As per your question - about me posting more during the regular seasons of club play.....

    I used to post a lot of soccer picks - but stopped for a number of reasons.In your first paragraph you accurately describe a very important part of being successful at sports gambling - finding the right prices.  The biggest reason I stopped is because people who read my threads were unwillling or unable to get in to one of the books where you can actually make money longterm betting soccer.

    It is foolish to think you can win longterm at soccer betting at Sportsbook.com (or any book like that).  On the three way line, those books have such a high house hold that you cant win - lines like where all three choices are +160 are unbeatable longterm.  So unless you are betting at pinnacle, matchbook, or betfair (or somewhere that offers similar options and prices) you cannot win. 

    So inevitably, I would put up my picks and the responses would start back "where are you getting those lines, my line is 40 cents worse" or "would you bet it at -XXX, thats the best I can get"  (as you can see by all of the posts in my threads over the WC).  The next, and worse step is that I am winning units, but they are losing units simply because of the vig.  Then add on that they cant bet options that I can (like -1.5 etc) and I win a bet and they lose the bet, or they lay -300 to win instead of laying -110 on a spread and get pissed.

    So I had no joy in posting soccer, only aggravation.  People (for the most part) didnt understand the betting of the sport, and were just trying to kill off a saturday morning before NCAA football kicked off - and werent interested in learning or being disciplined to understand what actually makes money doing this.

    I am on a great run in WC, but that is a very limited sample.  If the WC was every month, I would rely on price shopping and selective wagering to make money longterm.  Such is the club season - its a long grind - and if you are overpaying or making the wrong bets because you dont have options - you are going to lose.

    Just my thoughts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscarxena:

    Van,

    I have always read your threads and you are a very astute gambler. Wagering on sports isn't always about finding the best bets but in finding the lines that are vulnerable and betting them when it is right and then selling when it is right also to maximize your profits, similar to the stock market. While I wish I had the position to do these things, your insight and knowledge has great to read and while I can't speak for others here I know that it has helped me. I associate sports wagering to real life in that although you think you know it all, you should try to learn something new every day as you will be better for it.

     

    Enough about that, my question to you is since you have exposed soccer to the national Covers limelight and although it is time consuming, will you ever post your picks for friendlies and international leagues that you wager on as I think everyone here would be very happy that you did so. Either way because it is so time consuming I understand but you are an asset here at Covers in a forum that sometimes is corrupted by stupidity.

     

     

    First, thanks for the nice words.

    As per your question - about me posting more during the regular seasons of club play.....

    I used to post a lot of soccer picks - but stopped for a number of reasons.In your first paragraph you accurately describe a very important part of being successful at sports gambling - finding the right prices.  The biggest reason I stopped is because people who read my threads were unwillling or unable to get in to one of the books where you can actually make money longterm betting soccer.

    It is foolish to think you can win longterm at soccer betting at Sportsbook.com (or any book like that).  On the three way line, those books have such a high house hold that you cant win - lines like where all three choices are +160 are unbeatable longterm.  So unless you are betting at pinnacle, matchbook, or betfair (or somewhere that offers similar options and prices) you cannot win. 

    So inevitably, I would put up my picks and the responses would start back "where are you getting those lines, my line is 40 cents worse" or "would you bet it at -XXX, thats the best I can get"  (as you can see by all of the posts in my threads over the WC).  The next, and worse step is that I am winning units, but they are losing units simply because of the vig.  Then add on that they cant bet options that I can (like -1.5 etc) and I win a bet and they lose the bet, or they lay -300 to win instead of laying -110 on a spread and get pissed.

    So I had no joy in posting soccer, only aggravation.  People (for the most part) didnt understand the betting of the sport, and were just trying to kill off a saturday morning before NCAA football kicked off - and werent interested in learning or being disciplined to understand what actually makes money doing this.

    I am on a great run in WC, but that is a very limited sample.  If the WC was every month, I would rely on price shopping and selective wagering to make money longterm.  Such is the club season - its a long grind - and if you are overpaying or making the wrong bets because you dont have options - you are going to lose.

    Just my thoughts....

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DValiente:

    great job vanzack
    from Argentina, we salute u

    even though i want all south american teams in the semis...i thnk spain is a lock against paraguay

    Im going to look more in to it - but at first glance it sure does seem like a longshot that Paraguay will score....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DValiente:

    great job vanzack
    from Argentina, we salute u

    even though i want all south american teams in the semis...i thnk spain is a lock against paraguay

    Im going to look more in to it - but at first glance it sure does seem like a longshot that Paraguay will score....

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