• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
    • NFL Week 2
      NFL Week 2
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Lions-Bills Early Leans
      • Early Survivor Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Soccer

    Copa America tournament thread....

    «First Previous 192021 ... 242526 Next Last»
    vanzack
    kaponofor3
    Malachiwhy
    ZonaCats
    rangerz2478
    ...
    Participants:
    Search model icon
    Views: 47696
    Posts: 633
    «First Previous 192021 ... 242526 Next Last»
     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:17 PM ET #451

    Im also very curious to see the 3rd place game total.

    I wonder if the chicks are the same as the men with the auto-over.

    HELP A BROTHA OUT WITH SOME CHICK STATS!

    Id be willing to kick that line around if it comes out at 3 or less.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Im also very curious to see the 3rd place game total.

    I wonder if the chicks are the same as the men with the auto-over.

    HELP A BROTHA OUT WITH SOME CHICK STATS!

    Id be willing to kick that line around if it comes out at 3 or less.

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:19 PM ET #452

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Im also very curious to see the 3rd place game total.

    I wonder if the chicks are the same as the men with the auto-over.

    HELP A BROTHA OUT WITH SOME CHICK STATS!

    Id be willing to kick that line around if it comes out at 3 or less.

    Last 2 WC's were 3-1 and 4-1.

    Maybe we will see a 2.5 somewhere.

    PLEASE UPDATE THIS THREAD AS SOON AS YOU SEE A TOTAL ANYWHERE ON THE 3RD PLACE GAME.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Im also very curious to see the 3rd place game total.

    I wonder if the chicks are the same as the men with the auto-over.

    HELP A BROTHA OUT WITH SOME CHICK STATS!

    Id be willing to kick that line around if it comes out at 3 or less.

    Last 2 WC's were 3-1 and 4-1.

    Maybe we will see a 2.5 somewhere.

    PLEASE UPDATE THIS THREAD AS SOON AS YOU SEE A TOTAL ANYWHERE ON THE 3RD PLACE GAME.

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:27 PM ET #453

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Record:
    7-7
    Down: 3.36 Units

    Future:
    A. Colombia +32-1 (risk .25 unit to win 8 units)

    Results
    1. Bolivia +2.5 -113 (1 unit), .5 unit to Bolivia +2.5 and 3 -103 - WIN
    2. Arg / Bol Under 3 and 3.5 +107 (1.5 units), .5 unit to the under 3.5 and 4 +108 - WIN
    3. CR / Colombia Under 2.5 -114 (1.5 units) - WIN
    4. Venezuela / Brazil Over 3 -116 (1.5 units) - LOSS
    5. Paraguay -.5 -125 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6. Uruguay -1 -122 (1.5 units) - adding .5 unit at -108 to make it 2 units total - LOSS
    7. Chile -160 (1 unit) - adding .5 unit at -133 to make it 1.5 units total - WIN
    8. Argentina -1 and -1.5 -105 (4 units) - LOSS
    9. CR +.5 -120 (1 unit) - WIN
    10. Uruguay / Chile over 2 and 2.5 -102 (2.5 units) - HALF LOSS
    11. Peru / Mexico draw +227 (1 unit) - LOSS
    12. Paraguay +1 -118 (3 units) - WIN
    13. Equador / Venezuela over 2 -115 (2 units) - LOSS
    14. Peru / Chile Under 2 and 2.5 - 110 (2 units) - WIN
    15. Uruguay -1 -119 (3 units) - PUSH

    Wednesday July 13

    16.  Paraguay / Vene Under 2 and 2.5 -120 (2.5 units)
    17.  Brazil / Equador OVER 2.5 -105 (1 unit)

    GL all

    Officially adding Brazil / Equador OVER 2.5 -105 (1 unit)

    The line has just gotten to the point where it sucks me in.  I have visions of those horrible Equadorian strikers missing the goal in opportunity after opportunity, but I cant resist at this price.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Record:
    7-7
    Down: 3.36 Units

    Future:
    A. Colombia +32-1 (risk .25 unit to win 8 units)

    Results
    1. Bolivia +2.5 -113 (1 unit), .5 unit to Bolivia +2.5 and 3 -103 - WIN
    2. Arg / Bol Under 3 and 3.5 +107 (1.5 units), .5 unit to the under 3.5 and 4 +108 - WIN
    3. CR / Colombia Under 2.5 -114 (1.5 units) - WIN
    4. Venezuela / Brazil Over 3 -116 (1.5 units) - LOSS
    5. Paraguay -.5 -125 (2.5 units) - LOSS
    6. Uruguay -1 -122 (1.5 units) - adding .5 unit at -108 to make it 2 units total - LOSS
    7. Chile -160 (1 unit) - adding .5 unit at -133 to make it 1.5 units total - WIN
    8. Argentina -1 and -1.5 -105 (4 units) - LOSS
    9. CR +.5 -120 (1 unit) - WIN
    10. Uruguay / Chile over 2 and 2.5 -102 (2.5 units) - HALF LOSS
    11. Peru / Mexico draw +227 (1 unit) - LOSS
    12. Paraguay +1 -118 (3 units) - WIN
    13. Equador / Venezuela over 2 -115 (2 units) - LOSS
    14. Peru / Chile Under 2 and 2.5 - 110 (2 units) - WIN
    15. Uruguay -1 -119 (3 units) - PUSH

    Wednesday July 13

    16.  Paraguay / Vene Under 2 and 2.5 -120 (2.5 units)
    17.  Brazil / Equador OVER 2.5 -105 (1 unit)

    GL all

    Officially adding Brazil / Equador OVER 2.5 -105 (1 unit)

    The line has just gotten to the point where it sucks me in.  I have visions of those horrible Equadorian strikers missing the goal in opportunity after opportunity, but I cant resist at this price.

     
    kaponofor3
    kaponofor3
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2007
    Posts: 35430
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:37 PM ET #454

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Im also very curious to see the 3rd place game total.

    I wonder if the chicks are the same as the men with the auto-over.

    HELP A BROTHA OUT WITH SOME CHICK STATS!

    Id be willing to kick that line around if it comes out at 3 or less.



    You and me both, Van -- I didn't forget about your posts on that topic. I'd probably open it at 3.5?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Im also very curious to see the 3rd place game total.

    I wonder if the chicks are the same as the men with the auto-over.

    HELP A BROTHA OUT WITH SOME CHICK STATS!

    Id be willing to kick that line around if it comes out at 3 or less.



    You and me both, Van -- I didn't forget about your posts on that topic. I'd probably open it at 3.5?
     
    kaponofor3
    kaponofor3
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2007
    Posts: 35430
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:39 PM ET #455

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Officially adding Brazil / Equador OVER 2.5 -105 (1 unit)

    The line has just gotten to the point where it sucks me in.  I have visions of those horrible Equadorian strikers missing the goal in opportunity after opportunity, but I cant resist at this price.



    You sure those were Ecuadorian jerseys they were wearing, or was your vision more of a deja vu with them wearing light blue jerseys?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Officially adding Brazil / Equador OVER 2.5 -105 (1 unit)

    The line has just gotten to the point where it sucks me in.  I have visions of those horrible Equadorian strikers missing the goal in opportunity after opportunity, but I cant resist at this price.



    You sure those were Ecuadorian jerseys they were wearing, or was your vision more of a deja vu with them wearing light blue jerseys?
     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:47 PM ET #456

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    You sure those were Ecuadorian jerseys they were wearing, or was your vision more of a deja vu with them wearing light blue jerseys?

    I have had multiple versions of this vision in this tournament.

    As for the 3rd place game, Im really hoping to see 2.5.  I might be overly optimistic, but Im just hoping this slips by.  Let me know if you see it up somewhere.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    You sure those were Ecuadorian jerseys they were wearing, or was your vision more of a deja vu with them wearing light blue jerseys?

    I have had multiple versions of this vision in this tournament.

    As for the 3rd place game, Im really hoping to see 2.5.  I might be overly optimistic, but Im just hoping this slips by.  Let me know if you see it up somewhere.

     
    Malachiwhy
    Malachiwhy
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2010
    Posts: 7321
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:50 PM ET #457

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    You sure those were Ecuadorian jerseys they were wearing, or was your vision more of a deja vu with them wearing light blue jerseys?



    HAHAHA  a nightmare to say the least.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    You sure those were Ecuadorian jerseys they were wearing, or was your vision more of a deja vu with them wearing light blue jerseys?



    HAHAHA  a nightmare to say the least.
     
    kaponofor3
    kaponofor3
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2007
    Posts: 35430
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:50 PM ET #458

    Will do, Van. I have to imagine that if we get a 2.5 it's gonna juiced to the max, but I might take it anyways because of the fantastic display of goalkeeping we saw from France and Sweden today
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Will do, Van. I have to imagine that if we get a 2.5 it's gonna juiced to the max, but I might take it anyways because of the fantastic display of goalkeeping we saw from France and Sweden today
     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:56 PM ET #459

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    So what is the Japan / USA final line?

    Im going with:

    90 min line = USA -.5 +125

    To raise the cup = USA -140

    From what I see on Betfair in the market to win the tournament - it looks like the USA will be about -180 to win the cup.

    Too high IMO - but what do I know.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    So what is the Japan / USA final line?

    Im going with:

    90 min line = USA -.5 +125

    To raise the cup = USA -140

    From what I see on Betfair in the market to win the tournament - it looks like the USA will be about -180 to win the cup.

    Too high IMO - but what do I know.

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 4:57 PM ET #460

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    Will do, Van. I have to imagine that if we get a 2.5 it's gonna juiced to the max, but I might take it anyways because of the fantastic display of goalkeeping we saw from France and Sweden today

    I keep thinking about the same thing.  If these 2 keepers keep up their current pace of play,it could go way over any number.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    Will do, Van. I have to imagine that if we get a 2.5 it's gonna juiced to the max, but I might take it anyways because of the fantastic display of goalkeeping we saw from France and Sweden today

    I keep thinking about the same thing.  If these 2 keepers keep up their current pace of play,it could go way over any number.

     
    ZonaCats
    ZonaCats
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2007
    Posts: 3600
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:01 PM ET #461

    Van, I see the angle that both Venezeula and Paraguay advance with a draw (translate = won't be aching to score) and both have been offensively challenged.... hence under seems like a solid play. 

    BUT.... since the top 3 teams in this group are pretty much in (unless Paraguay or Brazil loses), you don't think they'll play lose and reckless? 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Van, I see the angle that both Venezeula and Paraguay advance with a draw (translate = won't be aching to score) and both have been offensively challenged.... hence under seems like a solid play. 

    BUT.... since the top 3 teams in this group are pretty much in (unless Paraguay or Brazil loses), you don't think they'll play lose and reckless? 
     
    rangerz2478
    rangerz2478
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2007
    Posts: 17830
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:04 PM ET #462

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    So what is the Japan / USA final line?

    Im going with:

    90 min line = USA -.5 +125

    To raise the cup = USA -140



    I think it SHOULD be -140 but no way it's going to be that low. Currently -180/+175 on betfair. So much value on Japan it's ridiculous.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    So what is the Japan / USA final line?

    Im going with:

    90 min line = USA -.5 +125

    To raise the cup = USA -140



    I think it SHOULD be -140 but no way it's going to be that low. Currently -180/+175 on betfair. So much value on Japan it's ridiculous.
     
    rangerz2478
    rangerz2478
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2007
    Posts: 17830
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:05 PM ET #463

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    From what I see on Betfair in the market to win the tournament - it looks like the USA will be about -180 to win the cup.

    Too high IMO - but what do I know.



    Woops didn't see this post my bad. Happen to agree.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    From what I see on Betfair in the market to win the tournament - it looks like the USA will be about -180 to win the cup.

    Too high IMO - but what do I know.



    Woops didn't see this post my bad. Happen to agree.
     
    sims_key
    sims_key
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2007
    Posts: 16408
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:10 PM ET #464

    van - what's your hedge plan on columbia future...wait til semis i presume?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    van - what's your hedge plan on columbia future...wait til semis i presume?
     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:18 PM ET #465

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    van - what's your hedge plan on columbia future...wait til semis i presume?

    Hedge Plan?

    We dont need no stinkin hedge plan!

    The way this tourney is going, Im as happy having Colombia as anyone else.  I always look at "hedge" wagers as individual wagers - ie if I thought Colombia was OVERPRICED I would bet the other side, but I really dont see that happening and will probably have to fight myself to not add on because they should be underpriced.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    van - what's your hedge plan on columbia future...wait til semis i presume?

    Hedge Plan?

    We dont need no stinkin hedge plan!

    The way this tourney is going, Im as happy having Colombia as anyone else.  I always look at "hedge" wagers as individual wagers - ie if I thought Colombia was OVERPRICED I would bet the other side, but I really dont see that happening and will probably have to fight myself to not add on because they should be underpriced.

     
    165yds
    165yds
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 18777
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:19 PM ET #466

    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:



    I think it SHOULD be -140 but no way it's going to be that low. Currently -180/+175 on betfair. So much value on Japan it's ridiculous.

    Japan is by far the best team in this WC.  I think they'll win in regulation rather easily.  Lines a complete joke.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:



    I think it SHOULD be -140 but no way it's going to be that low. Currently -180/+175 on betfair. So much value on Japan it's ridiculous.

    Japan is by far the best team in this WC.  I think they'll win in regulation rather easily.  Lines a complete joke.

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:21 PM ET #467

    Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:

    Van, I see the angle that both Venezeula and Paraguay advance with a draw (translate = won't be aching to score) and both have been offensively challenged.... hence under seems like a solid play. 

    BUT.... since the top 3 teams in this group are pretty much in (unless Paraguay or Brazil loses), you don't think they'll play lose and reckless? 

    Paraguay really doesnt play loose and reckless.  Despite the Brazil game, they are a classic 1 goal a game total team.  And I dont see Venezuela coming out to prove anything, they are very happy to be where they are.

    Just my opinion - I dont have a crystal ball - but think the chances are good this is another yawner.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:

    Van, I see the angle that both Venezeula and Paraguay advance with a draw (translate = won't be aching to score) and both have been offensively challenged.... hence under seems like a solid play. 

    BUT.... since the top 3 teams in this group are pretty much in (unless Paraguay or Brazil loses), you don't think they'll play lose and reckless? 

    Paraguay really doesnt play loose and reckless.  Despite the Brazil game, they are a classic 1 goal a game total team.  And I dont see Venezuela coming out to prove anything, they are very happy to be where they are.

    Just my opinion - I dont have a crystal ball - but think the chances are good this is another yawner.

     
    Swoop
    Swoop
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2007
    Posts: 4326
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:21 PM ET #468

    Van, a few hours ago, I could have gotten Under 2 in Par/Ven at +105.  Now it's -120    

    If you're expecting a 0-0, 1-0, or 1-1 game, would I be better served to take the +1 line on Venezuela?  Or could you see this being a 2-0 Paraguay win? 


    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Van, a few hours ago, I could have gotten Under 2 in Par/Ven at +105.  Now it's -120    

    If you're expecting a 0-0, 1-0, or 1-1 game, would I be better served to take the +1 line on Venezuela?  Or could you see this being a 2-0 Paraguay win? 


     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:23 PM ET #469

    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:



    I think it SHOULD be -140 but no way it's going to be that low. Currently -180/+175 on betfair. So much value on Japan it's ridiculous.

    Yeah - I cant really understand the +180.  Granted - my knowledge of womens soccer is really this tournament and the olympics every few years - but from what I have seen - 180 seems like a very high price.

    But I am really concerned about that 5'4" Japanese keeper.  Could be a deciding factor - but I really do thinkn the Japan possession game will give the USA problems in the same way Sweden did a week ago.  If Japan has 60% possession, there is a good chance we will lose.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:



    I think it SHOULD be -140 but no way it's going to be that low. Currently -180/+175 on betfair. So much value on Japan it's ridiculous.

    Yeah - I cant really understand the +180.  Granted - my knowledge of womens soccer is really this tournament and the olympics every few years - but from what I have seen - 180 seems like a very high price.

    But I am really concerned about that 5'4" Japanese keeper.  Could be a deciding factor - but I really do thinkn the Japan possession game will give the USA problems in the same way Sweden did a week ago.  If Japan has 60% possession, there is a good chance we will lose.

     
    sims_key
    sims_key
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2007
    Posts: 16408
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:25 PM ET #470

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Hedge Plan?

    We dont need no stinkin hedge plan!

    The way this tourney is going, Im as happy having Colombia as anyone else.  I always look at "hedge" wagers as individual wagers - ie if I thought Colombia was OVERPRICED I would bet the other side, but I really dont see that happening and will probably have to fight myself to not add on because they should be underpriced.


    so you are going to let 8 units ride if they play tina in the semi's.  if you have them at +3250, not sure what would be stopping you from taking the sure 3 units or so profit.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Hedge Plan?

    We dont need no stinkin hedge plan!

    The way this tourney is going, Im as happy having Colombia as anyone else.  I always look at "hedge" wagers as individual wagers - ie if I thought Colombia was OVERPRICED I would bet the other side, but I really dont see that happening and will probably have to fight myself to not add on because they should be underpriced.


    so you are going to let 8 units ride if they play tina in the semi's.  if you have them at +3250, not sure what would be stopping you from taking the sure 3 units or so profit.
     
    kvs23
    kvs23
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2007
    Posts: 776
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:26 PM ET #471

    Parlay of DRAW / DRAW for tonight's game is paying 18.4u.  Isn't that possible given both games have teams willing to draw.  I don't think it's inconceivable if Brazil is tied 0-0 at HT they pack it in and take the draw to ensure getting in.

    I am not saying it's gonna happen but the parlay payout of 18.4 seems like a decent bet (need it to hit 5.5% of time to be profitable).
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Parlay of DRAW / DRAW for tonight's game is paying 18.4u.  Isn't that possible given both games have teams willing to draw.  I don't think it's inconceivable if Brazil is tied 0-0 at HT they pack it in and take the draw to ensure getting in.

    I am not saying it's gonna happen but the parlay payout of 18.4 seems like a decent bet (need it to hit 5.5% of time to be profitable).
     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:27 PM ET #472

    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop:

    Van, a few hours ago, I could have gotten Under 2 in Par/Ven at +105.  Now it's -120    

    If you're expecting a 0-0, 1-0, or 1-1 game, would I be better served to take the +1 line on Venezuela?  Or could you see this being a 2-0 Paraguay win? 


    Swoop - you better check if you can get the +1 anymore.  I think you would have to pay about -150 for that.

    Back when the line was +1 and the total was 2 and 2.5, I debated the same thing you did, and just came up with the total as a better bet because my most likely final score is Paraguay 1-0.  When I assigned probabilities to final scores, and summed them up, the under was a better play for me.

    But if you can get +1 at a good price, it would be a better bet than the under 2 at a high price.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop:

    Van, a few hours ago, I could have gotten Under 2 in Par/Ven at +105.  Now it's -120    

    If you're expecting a 0-0, 1-0, or 1-1 game, would I be better served to take the +1 line on Venezuela?  Or could you see this being a 2-0 Paraguay win? 


    Swoop - you better check if you can get the +1 anymore.  I think you would have to pay about -150 for that.

    Back when the line was +1 and the total was 2 and 2.5, I debated the same thing you did, and just came up with the total as a better bet because my most likely final score is Paraguay 1-0.  When I assigned probabilities to final scores, and summed them up, the under was a better play for me.

    But if you can get +1 at a good price, it would be a better bet than the under 2 at a high price.

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:29 PM ET #473

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:


    so you are going to let 8 units ride if they play tina in the semi's.  if you have them at +3250, not sure what would be stopping you from taking the sure 3 units or so profit.

    Because if they play Tina in the semis - they most certainly will be a bigger than should be dog.  To bet Tina - or to hedge in your words - I would have to pay extra to do it - and Im not willing.  Like I said, I think it will be hard for me to not add on because Colombia would probably be like +300 to advance in that game.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:


    so you are going to let 8 units ride if they play tina in the semi's.  if you have them at +3250, not sure what would be stopping you from taking the sure 3 units or so profit.

    Because if they play Tina in the semis - they most certainly will be a bigger than should be dog.  To bet Tina - or to hedge in your words - I would have to pay extra to do it - and Im not willing.  Like I said, I think it will be hard for me to not add on because Colombia would probably be like +300 to advance in that game.

     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:32 PM ET #474

    Quote Originally Posted by kvs23:

    Parlay of DRAW / DRAW for tonight's game is paying 18.4u.  Isn't that possible given both games have teams willing to draw.  I don't think it's inconceivable if Brazil is tied 0-0 at HT they pack it in and take the draw to ensure getting in.

    I am not saying it's gonna happen but the parlay payout of 18.4 seems like a decent bet (need it to hit 5.5% of time to be profitable).

    I think your math might be a little off....

    I am seeing draw odds at about +250 in the first game, and +450 in the second.  That ends up being roughly 13-1.

    What are your odds on the 2 draws individually?

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Quote Originally Posted by kvs23:

    Parlay of DRAW / DRAW for tonight's game is paying 18.4u.  Isn't that possible given both games have teams willing to draw.  I don't think it's inconceivable if Brazil is tied 0-0 at HT they pack it in and take the draw to ensure getting in.

    I am not saying it's gonna happen but the parlay payout of 18.4 seems like a decent bet (need it to hit 5.5% of time to be profitable).

    I think your math might be a little off....

    I am seeing draw odds at about +250 in the first game, and +450 in the second.  That ends up being roughly 13-1.

    What are your odds on the 2 draws individually?

     
     
    vanzack
    vanzack
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2001
    Posts: 60107
    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 5:33 PM ET #475

    PLEASE DONT FORGET TO POST HERE IF ANYONE SEES A 3rd PLACE GAME TOTAL

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    PLEASE DONT FORGET TO POST HERE IF ANYONE SEES A 3rd PLACE GAME TOTAL

    All Forums | Soccer
    «First Previous 192021 ... 242526 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 447,540 Covers arrow
    • Tuesday 09/15/2026 642 Covers arrow
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 257,327 Covers arrow
    • PART DEUX 261 Covers arrow
    • Couple Beers 3,770 Covers arrow
    • Tuesday 3,098 Covers arrow
    • Trump lies so much. 20,682 Covers arrow
    • Obviously the true face of the republican party 31,196 Covers arrow
    • Another looney Trump comment today. 11,550 Covers arrow
    • What damage to America does the traitor and his party plan for the rest of the year.? 25,630 Covers arrow

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 CS Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.