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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:41 PM ET #501

    Fuckin Paraguay.

    With that spectacular performance they bought themselves a rematch with either Brazil or Venezuela in the quarters.

    They will be the 2nd best 3rd place team, which plays the winner of group B (Brazil if they win by more than 1 goal tonight).

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    Fuckin Paraguay.

    With that spectacular performance they bought themselves a rematch with either Brazil or Venezuela in the quarters.

    They will be the 2nd best 3rd place team, which plays the winner of group B (Brazil if they win by more than 1 goal tonight).

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:45 PM ET #502

    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop:

    Van, how does this affect the Brazil game?  Do they just go for the draw?  Can Ecuador score?  You thinking 2-1?  Or does Brazil try to make a statement? 


    It is pretty complicated, but I dont think the first game has any effect on the second.

    If Brazil draw, they get 3rd and play Venezuela.  Other than that, there are lots of permutations, but all of them involve 2 of the 3 group B teams playing each other in one game (Vene, Brazil, Para) - and then the one left out plays Chile.

    Equador is offensive, and not in the way I would like when I bet an over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop:

    Van, how does this affect the Brazil game?  Do they just go for the draw?  Can Ecuador score?  You thinking 2-1?  Or does Brazil try to make a statement? 


    It is pretty complicated, but I dont think the first game has any effect on the second.

    If Brazil draw, they get 3rd and play Venezuela.  Other than that, there are lots of permutations, but all of them involve 2 of the 3 group B teams playing each other in one game (Vene, Brazil, Para) - and then the one left out plays Chile.

    Equador is offensive, and not in the way I would like when I bet an over.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:47 PM ET #503

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Paraguay really doesnt play loose and reckless.  Despite the Brazil game, they are a classic 1 goal a game total team.  And I dont see Venezuela coming out to prove anything, they are very happy to be where they are.

    Just my opinion - I dont have a crystal ball - but think the chances are good this is another yawner.

    As the kids would say - EPIC FAIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Paraguay really doesnt play loose and reckless.  Despite the Brazil game, they are a classic 1 goal a game total team.  And I dont see Venezuela coming out to prove anything, they are very happy to be where they are.

    Just my opinion - I dont have a crystal ball - but think the chances are good this is another yawner.

    As the kids would say - EPIC FAIL.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:48 PM ET #504

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Fuckin Paraguay.

    With that spectacular performance they bought themselves a rematch with either Brazil or Venezuela in the quarters.

    They will be the 2nd best 3rd place team, which plays the winner of group B (Brazil if they win by more than 1 goal tonight).



    Unless Brazil ties tonight, then they will play Venezuela and Paraguay lucks out (kinda) and plays Chile instead.  Regardless, I agree they screwed themselves over because Brazil should roll tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Fuckin Paraguay.

    With that spectacular performance they bought themselves a rematch with either Brazil or Venezuela in the quarters.

    They will be the 2nd best 3rd place team, which plays the winner of group B (Brazil if they win by more than 1 goal tonight).



    Unless Brazil ties tonight, then they will play Venezuela and Paraguay lucks out (kinda) and plays Chile instead.  Regardless, I agree they screwed themselves over because Brazil should roll tonight.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:49 PM ET #505

    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:



    Unless Brazil ties tonight, then they will play Venezuela and Paraguay lucks out (kinda) and plays Chile instead.  Regardless, I agree they screwed themselves over because Brazil should roll tonight.

    But if Brazil wins by 2 goals, or scores 3+ in a 1 goal win, or I dont know what happens if they win 2-1, they will win the group and play Paraguay and Vene would play Chile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:



    Unless Brazil ties tonight, then they will play Venezuela and Paraguay lucks out (kinda) and plays Chile instead.  Regardless, I agree they screwed themselves over because Brazil should roll tonight.

    But if Brazil wins by 2 goals, or scores 3+ in a 1 goal win, or I dont know what happens if they win 2-1, they will win the group and play Paraguay and Vene would play Chile.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:52 PM ET #506

    Wayne Rooney has hair!
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:57 PM ET #507

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    But if Brazil wins by 2 goals, or scores 3+ in a 1 goal win, or I dont know what happens if they win 2-1, they will win the group and play Paraguay and Vene would play Chile.



    The bottom line is that this 3rd place shit makes it sooo confusing.  Find 4 more teams next time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    But if Brazil wins by 2 goals, or scores 3+ in a 1 goal win, or I dont know what happens if they win 2-1, they will win the group and play Paraguay and Vene would play Chile.



    The bottom line is that this 3rd place shit makes it sooo confusing.  Find 4 more teams next time!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:57 PM ET #508

    Games that are set:

    Columbia vs Peru
    Argentina vs Uruguay
    2 of (paraguay, Brazil, Vene) play each other
    Chile vs the team left out of the above game

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    Games that are set:

    Columbia vs Peru
    Argentina vs Uruguay
    2 of (paraguay, Brazil, Vene) play each other
    Chile vs the team left out of the above game

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 8:59 PM ET #509

    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:



    The bottom line is that this 3rd place shit makes it sooo confusing.  Find 4 more teams next time!

    Yeah really.

    Guyana, Suriname, and French Guyana dont play soccer? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:



    The bottom line is that this 3rd place shit makes it sooo confusing.  Find 4 more teams next time!

    Yeah really.

    Guyana, Suriname, and French Guyana dont play soccer? 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:04 PM ET #510

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Wayne Rooney has hair!

    ...and he seems to be a blonde

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Wayne Rooney has hair!

    ...and he seems to be a blonde

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:07 PM ET #511

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Any update on this line?  Moving?

    I only hope this makes it to a real book soon.



    Post #496 at 8:40pm

    Sweden/Japan

    Total Goals
    o2.5 -118
    u2.5 -105

    Goal Line [lower limits]
    o2.5 1.875 (-114)
    u2.5 1.925 (-108)


    Now
    Total Goals
    o2.5 -125
    u2.5 +100

    Goal Line [lower limits]
    o2.5 1.775 (-129)
    u2.5 2.025 (+102)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Any update on this line?  Moving?

    I only hope this makes it to a real book soon.



    Post #496 at 8:40pm

    Sweden/Japan

    Total Goals
    o2.5 -118
    u2.5 -105

    Goal Line [lower limits]
    o2.5 1.875 (-114)
    u2.5 1.925 (-108)


    Now
    Total Goals
    o2.5 -125
    u2.5 +100

    Goal Line [lower limits]
    o2.5 1.775 (-129)
    u2.5 2.025 (+102)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:10 PM ET #512

    There is really nothing special at all about this Brazil team.
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    There is really nothing special at all about this Brazil team.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:11 PM ET #513

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah really.

    Guyana, Suriname, and French Guyana dont play soccer? 



    I mean if Mexico and CR are in the tourney, why not extend it to anyone from the Gold Cup?  Make it a real tournament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah really.

    Guyana, Suriname, and French Guyana dont play soccer? 



    I mean if Mexico and CR are in the tourney, why not extend it to anyone from the Gold Cup?  Make it a real tournament.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:13 PM ET #514

    Brazil 1-0
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:20 PM ET #515

    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:



    I mean if Mexico and CR are in the tourney, why not extend it to anyone from the Gold Cup?  Make it a real tournament.

    I was actually being serious - why dont we ever see those 3?

    But I agree with you, there are plenty to choose from in central america, caribbean, or NA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:



    I mean if Mexico and CR are in the tourney, why not extend it to anyone from the Gold Cup?  Make it a real tournament.

    I was actually being serious - why dont we ever see those 3?

    But I agree with you, there are plenty to choose from in central america, caribbean, or NA.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:27 PM ET #516

    1-1

    One more please.

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    1-1

    One more please.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:52 PM ET #517

    Another 1-1 day for me where I lose money.

    2-1 Brazil.

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    Another 1-1 day for me where I lose money.

    2-1 Brazil.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:53 PM ET #518

    What happens in the group if Brazil wins exactly 2-1???
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    What happens in the group if Brazil wins exactly 2-1???
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:53 PM ET #519

    Still good call on the over
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:54 PM ET #520

    Great question, then it's an exact tie... coin flip???
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    Great question, then it's an exact tie... coin flip???
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Great question, then it's an exact tie... coin flip???

    Not sure.  Everything would be totally tied - would think they would have to flip a coin.

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    Great question, then it's an exact tie... coin flip???

    Not sure.  Everything would be totally tied - would think they would have to flip a coin.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:57 PM ET #522

    Really comes down to would you rather play Chile or Paraguay?  I would say Paraguay but there's not much difference, both teams you have to play well to beat.
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    Really comes down to would you rather play Chile or Paraguay?  I would say Paraguay but there's not much difference, both teams you have to play well to beat.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by happycap:

    Still good call on the over

    Thanks - just feeling gross about this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happycap:

    Still good call on the over

    Thanks - just feeling gross about this tournament.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:58 PM ET #524

    silly question

    But if i have Braz at -1 asian handicap  and they win 2-1 should that be a push?
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    silly question

    But if i have Braz at -1 asian handicap  and they win 2-1 should that be a push?
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2011 - 9:58 PM ET #525

    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Really comes down to would you rather play Chile or Paraguay?  I would say Paraguay but there's not much difference, both teams you have to play well to beat.

    Yeah, pretty close either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Really comes down to would you rather play Chile or Paraguay?  I would say Paraguay but there's not much difference, both teams you have to play well to beat.

    Yeah, pretty close either way.

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