• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 2
      NFL Week 2
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • NFL Moneyline Picks
      • NFL AI Predictions
      • NFL Underdogs
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Soccer

    Brazil Serie A - Nautico +0.5 v Ponte Preta

    composite
    Vicente87
    mikebdb
    SlicerDicer
    24money
    ...
    Participants:
    Search model icon
    Views: 1055
    Posts: 20
     
    composite
    composite
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 4418
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 3:01 PM ET #1

    Can anyone explain why Ponte Preta is a -170 favorite over anybody? They haven't scored a goal in their last 4 matches. 

     

     

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Can anyone explain why Ponte Preta is a -170 favorite over anybody? They haven't scored a goal in their last 4 matches. 

     

     

     
    Vicente87
    Vicente87
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2012
    Posts: 7243
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 3:11 PM ET #2

    Don't know mate

    Really strange, too strange to play either side

    Nautico is weak on the road but that doesn't explain such juicy line

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Don't know mate

    Really strange, too strange to play either side

    Nautico is weak on the road but that doesn't explain such juicy line

     
    Vicente87
    Vicente87
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2012
    Posts: 7243
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 3:13 PM ET #3

    Dunno how trustful is this page

    https://www.bet-mate.com/View/MoneyWay


    This is the game with the biggest money involved, by quite a margin

    90% of the money on Ponte
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Dunno how trustful is this page

    https://www.bet-mate.com/View/MoneyWay


    This is the game with the biggest money involved, by quite a margin

    90% of the money on Ponte
     
    mikebdb
    mikebdb
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2012
    Posts: 11785
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 3:49 PM ET #4

    the line is that high because nautico plays great at home but horrible on the road....1 win 4 ties 11 loses.....but with that said i think the plus 1 minus 140 might be a good bet..hoping for tie against them

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    the line is that high because nautico plays great at home but horrible on the road....1 win 4 ties 11 loses.....but with that said i think the plus 1 minus 140 might be a good bet..hoping for tie against them

     
    composite
    composite
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 4418
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 4:10 PM ET #5

    Thanks guys.  I know Nautico sucks on the road, but PP hasn't scored in their last *FOUR* matches.  That's 360 minutes without scoring. 

    Still, the line movement and the betting percentages are bothersome. Squares don't put tons of $$$ on a team that hasn't scored in 360 minutes.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Thanks guys.  I know Nautico sucks on the road, but PP hasn't scored in their last *FOUR* matches.  That's 360 minutes without scoring. 

    Still, the line movement and the betting percentages are bothersome. Squares don't put tons of $$$ on a team that hasn't scored in 360 minutes.

     
    composite
    composite
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 4418
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 4:22 PM ET #6

    Another thing. o2.75 goals is -115 while u2.75 is -105.

    PP hasn't scored in 4 matches.  Nautico has scored 2 goals in 4 away matches.  But there's supposed to be an orgy of scoring today?

    I sure wish I knew more about Brazilian soccer to understand WTF is going on.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Another thing. o2.75 goals is -115 while u2.75 is -105.

    PP hasn't scored in 4 matches.  Nautico has scored 2 goals in 4 away matches.  But there's supposed to be an orgy of scoring today?

    I sure wish I knew more about Brazilian soccer to understand WTF is going on.

     
    SlicerDicer
    SlicerDicer
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2008
    Posts: 1805
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 4:36 PM ET #7

    Thanks for that site vincente, quite useful, especially to see where money is today vs results, maybe find some correlation for future use.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Thanks for that site vincente, quite useful, especially to see where money is today vs results, maybe find some correlation for future use.
     
    mikebdb
    mikebdb
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2012
    Posts: 11785
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 4:38 PM ET #8

    gambling is alot of guessing...once the game starts and you see how its unfolding then its usually clear as day...but that you never can see ...alot lines are set by what happened when the lasr met....a 3-0 win for nautico at home...so linemakers feel the revenge factor here and see a nice win for pp at home...who knows...
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    gambling is alot of guessing...once the game starts and you see how its unfolding then its usually clear as day...but that you never can see ...alot lines are set by what happened when the lasr met....a 3-0 win for nautico at home...so linemakers feel the revenge factor here and see a nice win for pp at home...who knows...
     
    24money
    24money
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jun, 2007
    Posts: 1153
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 5:15 PM ET #9

    No clue where any offense will come from as Nautico is horrid scoring on the road (ie: 9 goals in 14 games) and PP is only avg'ing 1.3 goals a game at home. I see a low scoring affair, i'm on the under 3 @ -156.

    GL

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    No clue where any offense will come from as Nautico is horrid scoring on the road (ie: 9 goals in 14 games) and PP is only avg'ing 1.3 goals a game at home. I see a low scoring affair, i'm on the under 3 @ -156.

    GL

     
    SlicerDicer
    SlicerDicer
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2008
    Posts: 1805
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 5:24 PM ET #10

    Well if I go down on fluminense and PP, at least I'm going down with a ton of others, two highest volumes and %'s.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Well if I go down on fluminense and PP, at least I'm going down with a ton of others, two highest volumes and %'s.
     
    GambleForProfit
    GambleForProfit
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2011
    Posts: 10875
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2012 - 9:45 PM ET #11

    Composite you seem like a fairly smart guy so I say this with good intentions stop trying to mix stats and whats supposed to happen with why lines move.  Its very hard to find a strategy with those 2 tools blended that works in a profitable way because often they conflict with each other here is a huge hint: follow the money and here is the hint the "smart" money was on PP 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Composite you seem like a fairly smart guy so I say this with good intentions stop trying to mix stats and whats supposed to happen with why lines move.  Its very hard to find a strategy with those 2 tools blended that works in a profitable way because often they conflict with each other here is a huge hint: follow the money and here is the hint the "smart" money was on PP 
     
    NakuspStyle
    NakuspStyle
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2010
    Posts: 820
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 12:35 AM ET #12

    Thanks for the tip on this game, cashed with PP and the over! Cheers!
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Thanks for the tip on this game, cashed with PP and the over! Cheers!
     
    composite
    composite
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 4418
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 1:06 AM ET #13

    G4P - trust me, you have no idea how important line movements are to me.  I was just wondering whether the line movement could be attributed to something external like key players injured, key players returning, etc.

    And as I said above, the line movement bothered me b/c square bettors don't throw lots of $$ on a team that hasn't scored in 4 games. 

    Still, this game was hardly reflective of a -170 favorite. PP was losing from the 10th minute til the 70th min.  Then got 2 quick goals - one involving a penalty kick.  But a win is a win. 

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    G4P - trust me, you have no idea how important line movements are to me.  I was just wondering whether the line movement could be attributed to something external like key players injured, key players returning, etc.

    And as I said above, the line movement bothered me b/c square bettors don't throw lots of $$ on a team that hasn't scored in 4 games. 

    Still, this game was hardly reflective of a -170 favorite. PP was losing from the 10th minute til the 70th min.  Then got 2 quick goals - one involving a penalty kick.  But a win is a win. 

     
    Barbarossa
    Barbarossa
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2009
    Posts: 277312
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 1:11 AM ET #14

    my friend ,


    just 5 cents to the topic "line movements"


    when it comes to soccer / football


    check lines internationally , Europe / Asia


    if the lines dont move over there


    believe me

    line movements over here in our sweet home USA

    means   NOTHING
    The Pastor of Disaster
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    my friend ,


    just 5 cents to the topic "line movements"


    when it comes to soccer / football


    check lines internationally , Europe / Asia


    if the lines dont move over there


    believe me

    line movements over here in our sweet home USA

    means   NOTHING
     
    composite
    composite
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 4418
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 1:27 AM ET #15

    barb - which books do you check for line movements? I check pinnacle sports.  But they dont post odds for all matches (Costa Rica for instance)

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    barb - which books do you check for line movements? I check pinnacle sports.  But they dont post odds for all matches (Costa Rica for instance)

     
    jsab
    jsab
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2008
    Posts: 7592
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 1:51 PM ET #16

    5 dimes is a good site to check as well.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    5 dimes is a good site to check as well.
     
    GambleForProfit
    GambleForProfit
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2011
    Posts: 10875
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 1:54 PM ET #17

    All the sharp books are good 5d bookmaker, legends, betfair, Asian books are especially good as well
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    All the sharp books are good 5d bookmaker, legends, betfair, Asian books are especially good as well
     
    composite
    composite
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 4418
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 2:47 PM ET #18

    Thanks everyone. 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Thanks everyone. 
     
    don_vito
    don_vito
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2012
    Posts: 149
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 6:48 PM ET #19

    NO trust in Nautico
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    NO trust in Nautico
     
     
    InsidePick
    InsidePick
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2012
    Posts: 67
    Posted: Oct. 11, 2012 - 7:27 PM ET #20

    Soccer, Brazil A
    Sport Recife - Gremio
    Gremio to win@2.90 (+190)

    Enjoy!

    twitter: Mr_GreenInfo
    skype: MrGreenInfo
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Soccer, Brazil A
    Sport Recife - Gremio
    Gremio to win@2.90 (+190)

    Enjoy!

    twitter: Mr_GreenInfo
    skype: MrGreenInfo
    All Forums | Soccer

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 449,019 Covers arrow
    • PART DEUX 248 Covers arrow
    • The Three-Day Money Train 4,095 Covers arrow
    • Friday 09/18/2026 759 Covers arrow
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 258,458 Covers arrow
    • Trump's legacy? 25,444 Covers arrow
    • NCAA FOOTBALL. 151 21,375 Covers arrow
    • Week 3 Money 6,202 Covers arrow
    • NCAA WEEK 3 ***Click here for GREATNESS*** 7,056 Covers arrow
    • We have picked a terrible time to have the stupidest president ever 29,073 Covers arrow

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 CS Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.