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    The Lance Armstrong case PROVES

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 11:16 PM ET #1

    Where money is involved, evil, corruption, greed and lies will always take over human beings...

    Doesnt matter, who , where, why ....where money is involved, the above will follow..

    but, but, but, but, but Armstrong got tested, he got tested...you are just bitter, a loser...

    He got tested......

    But NRL players arent your normal human beings, they are infallable human beings...they are a different breed to every other human being...

    Remember, where money is involved, greed and corruption are always there.

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    Where money is involved, evil, corruption, greed and lies will always take over human beings...

    Doesnt matter, who , where, why ....where money is involved, the above will follow..

    but, but, but, but, but Armstrong got tested, he got tested...you are just bitter, a loser...

    He got tested......

    But NRL players arent your normal human beings, they are infallable human beings...they are a different breed to every other human being...

    Remember, where money is involved, greed and corruption are always there.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 12:34 AM ET #2

    Taking his tour wins away is just silly, Just like MLB the entire sport was on it, Just throw a * next them and move along

    NRL player's play with too much pride and love for their club, They respect the fans and the game. Jamie Soward grabs the his Red V with so much pride and you want me to believe he.... I can't even say it

    Wash your mouth out 


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    Taking his tour wins away is just silly, Just like MLB the entire sport was on it, Just throw a * next them and move along

    NRL player's play with too much pride and love for their club, They respect the fans and the game. Jamie Soward grabs the his Red V with so much pride and you want me to believe he.... I can't even say it

    Wash your mouth out 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 12:52 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    Taking his tour wins away is just silly, Just like MLB the entire sport was on it, Just throw a * next them and move along

    NRL player's play with too much pride and love for their club, They respect the fans and the game. Jamie Soward grabs the his Red V with so much pride and you want me to believe he.... I can't even say it

    Wash your mouth out 


    NRL players = Infallable human beings

    NRL players = Moral perfectionists......

    No NRL player or ref has ever ever ever ever bet on a game.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    Taking his tour wins away is just silly, Just like MLB the entire sport was on it, Just throw a * next them and move along

    NRL player's play with too much pride and love for their club, They respect the fans and the game. Jamie Soward grabs the his Red V with so much pride and you want me to believe he.... I can't even say it

    Wash your mouth out 


    NRL players = Infallable human beings

    NRL players = Moral perfectionists......

    No NRL player or ref has ever ever ever ever bet on a game.....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 3:11 AM ET #4

    yes, Armstrong on drugs is proof NRL games are fixed

    fucking imbecile
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    yes, Armstrong on drugs is proof NRL games are fixed

    fucking imbecile
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 3:15 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:

    yes, Armstrong on drugs is proof NRL games are fixed

    fucking imbecile

    seems reasonable 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:

    yes, Armstrong on drugs is proof NRL games are fixed

    fucking imbecile

    seems reasonable 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 5:55 AM ET #6

    Just like i said a particular Sea Eagles player has been hitting the charlie hard....Hirshfelders response, "Manly have an in house testing system", it would have come out...

    Same testers that tested Armstrong?

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    Just like i said a particular Sea Eagles player has been hitting the charlie hard....Hirshfelders response, "Manly have an in house testing system", it would have come out...

    Same testers that tested Armstrong?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:06 AM ET #7

    rostos' imagination

    what testing exists for cocaine?

    what testing existed for EPO in those days?

    you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
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    rostos' imagination

    what testing exists for cocaine?

    what testing existed for EPO in those days?

    you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:16 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:

    rostos' imagination

    what testing exists for cocaine?

    what testing existed for EPO in those days?

    you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

    So you cant test for cocaine.....?

    Hang on...Manly have in house testing, so this player i mentioned definitly wasnt on cocaine, because the testers would have found it..

    Just like Armstrong would have been sounded out if he was doping all thos years ago, because he was tested.........

    I wonder if Armstrongs testers all those years ago also investigated the Roosters cows game a few years ago......

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:

    rostos' imagination

    what testing exists for cocaine?

    what testing existed for EPO in those days?

    you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

    So you cant test for cocaine.....?

    Hang on...Manly have in house testing, so this player i mentioned definitly wasnt on cocaine, because the testers would have found it..

    Just like Armstrong would have been sounded out if he was doping all thos years ago, because he was tested.........

    I wonder if Armstrongs testers all those years ago also investigated the Roosters cows game a few years ago......

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 6:55 AM ET #9

    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    If you win too many cheese sandwiches we will limit you to half a cheese sandwich
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    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    If you win too many cheese sandwiches we will limit you to half a cheese sandwich
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:12 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    Taking his tour wins away is just silly, Just like MLB the entire sport was on it, Just throw a * next them and move along

    NRL player's play with too much pride and love for their club, They respect the fans and the game. Jamie Soward grabs the his Red V with so much pride and you want me to believe he.... I can't even say it

    Wash your mouth out 





    Jimmy Cassidy grabs the whip and shows Might and Power how much he loves him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    Taking his tour wins away is just silly, Just like MLB the entire sport was on it, Just throw a * next them and move along

    NRL player's play with too much pride and love for their club, They respect the fans and the game. Jamie Soward grabs the his Red V with so much pride and you want me to believe he.... I can't even say it

    Wash your mouth out 





    Jimmy Cassidy grabs the whip and shows Might and Power how much he loves him
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:21 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:




    Jimmy Cassidy grabs the whip and shows Might and Power how much he loves him

    Jamie Whincup grabs the gear stick and shoves it forward to gain more thrust in his rear end 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:




    Jimmy Cassidy grabs the whip and shows Might and Power how much he loves him

    Jamie Whincup grabs the gear stick and shoves it forward to gain more thrust in his rear end 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:


    Jamie Whincup grabs the gear stick and shoves it forward to gain more thrust in his rear end 




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:


    Jamie Whincup grabs the gear stick and shoves it forward to gain more thrust in his rear end 




     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 4:59 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    So you cant test for cocaine.....?




    You don't "test" for the cocaine or many drugs in general. You test for the by products left after the body has broke the drugs down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    So you cant test for cocaine.....?




    You don't "test" for the cocaine or many drugs in general. You test for the by products left after the body has broke the drugs down.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 5:01 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    I've got a sicko cheese story that left me IMMOBILE on the toilet after eating way too much cheese. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    I've got a sicko cheese story that left me IMMOBILE on the toilet after eating way too much cheese. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:03 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    If you win too many cheese sandwiches we will limit you to half a cheese sandwich

    Real men produce their own cheese and feed it to lucky ladies 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    If you win too many cheese sandwiches we will limit you to half a cheese sandwich

    Real men produce their own cheese and feed it to lucky ladies 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 11:02 PM ET #16

    Looks like we have some "naive" people here.

    EX-NRL and Super League player Adrian Vowles says it would be naive to think Australia's professional football codes are clean from performance enhancing drugs and a significant amount of rugby league players have gone through careers without being caught.
    As the Lance Armstrong fallout continues, the former Maroon said league, as well as rugby and AFL, shouldn't be sanctimonious enough to think they are free from performance-enhancing drugs despite beefed-up testing regimes.
    Vowles said he was never directly offered steroids or growth hormones during his career but there was wide suspicion in playing circles surrounding certain players, some of whom performed at the highest levels.
    ''I just think over the years, as in any sport, there are players you may have thought have been on some sort of performance-enhancing drug. There are blokes I've played footy against - I'm not saying they are or they aren't - but I know how hard it is to train and be strong,'' he said.
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    ''As players, you get a sense of it. You know. Nobody comes out and says anything or accuses anyone. But I'm sure there is and if we didn't think there was, we'd be blind. That's not a blight against rugby league either. That's just how it is. I don't have any time for drug cheats at all.
    ''I think if you go through time, there would be a fair few [players who didn't get caught]. And probably would have played for their state and country, I guess.
    ''It's a competitive sport and when it's a competitive sport, people will take shortcuts. If people have success with shortcuts, they keep taking shortcuts. That's the way I see it.''
    League has stringent testing but it is the use of human growth hormone, which is more difficult to detect, that Vowles believes has been and remains a significant problem.
    England hooker Terry Newton became one of the first athletes to record a positive test in 2010 and was given a two-year-ban.
    HGH can only be found via blood tests, which the NRL began administering in 2010. It increased that testing at the beginning of this year in a bid to be proactive in their battle against the substance.
    But blood tests are less regular than urine tests and HGH remains an elusive substance, even if the NRL hasn't always been convinced it is of great assistance to players.
    Testing for synthetic growth hormones has been done at the Olympics since 2004 but the standard isoform test is difficult because the body restores the natural balance of the hormone within a day or two.
    A new test was implemented during for the London Games that can detect HGH abusers up to three weeks after injecting. It's been a welcome initiative - only eight athletes worldwide have returned positive tests and none at the Olympics.
    In 2010, a doctor told The Australian on the condition of anonymity that players in the NRL were using growth hormones to improve power, condition and injury recuperation.
    ''It would make them bigger and stronger … anabolic steroids are easy to pick up with testing because it's in your system for a long time,'' the doctor said. ''Growth hormone is much harder to detect because it's a natural substance anyway.''
    Vowles's views found support on Twitter from Bobbie Goulding, the former England halfback and Super League great, who replied: ''It's frightening what I know pal and probably you.''

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    Looks like we have some "naive" people here.

    EX-NRL and Super League player Adrian Vowles says it would be naive to think Australia's professional football codes are clean from performance enhancing drugs and a significant amount of rugby league players have gone through careers without being caught.
    As the Lance Armstrong fallout continues, the former Maroon said league, as well as rugby and AFL, shouldn't be sanctimonious enough to think they are free from performance-enhancing drugs despite beefed-up testing regimes.
    Vowles said he was never directly offered steroids or growth hormones during his career but there was wide suspicion in playing circles surrounding certain players, some of whom performed at the highest levels.
    ''I just think over the years, as in any sport, there are players you may have thought have been on some sort of performance-enhancing drug. There are blokes I've played footy against - I'm not saying they are or they aren't - but I know how hard it is to train and be strong,'' he said.
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    ''As players, you get a sense of it. You know. Nobody comes out and says anything or accuses anyone. But I'm sure there is and if we didn't think there was, we'd be blind. That's not a blight against rugby league either. That's just how it is. I don't have any time for drug cheats at all.
    ''I think if you go through time, there would be a fair few [players who didn't get caught]. And probably would have played for their state and country, I guess.
    ''It's a competitive sport and when it's a competitive sport, people will take shortcuts. If people have success with shortcuts, they keep taking shortcuts. That's the way I see it.''
    League has stringent testing but it is the use of human growth hormone, which is more difficult to detect, that Vowles believes has been and remains a significant problem.
    England hooker Terry Newton became one of the first athletes to record a positive test in 2010 and was given a two-year-ban.
    HGH can only be found via blood tests, which the NRL began administering in 2010. It increased that testing at the beginning of this year in a bid to be proactive in their battle against the substance.
    But blood tests are less regular than urine tests and HGH remains an elusive substance, even if the NRL hasn't always been convinced it is of great assistance to players.
    Testing for synthetic growth hormones has been done at the Olympics since 2004 but the standard isoform test is difficult because the body restores the natural balance of the hormone within a day or two.
    A new test was implemented during for the London Games that can detect HGH abusers up to three weeks after injecting. It's been a welcome initiative - only eight athletes worldwide have returned positive tests and none at the Olympics.
    In 2010, a doctor told The Australian on the condition of anonymity that players in the NRL were using growth hormones to improve power, condition and injury recuperation.
    ''It would make them bigger and stronger … anabolic steroids are easy to pick up with testing because it's in your system for a long time,'' the doctor said. ''Growth hormone is much harder to detect because it's a natural substance anyway.''
    Vowles's views found support on Twitter from Bobbie Goulding, the former England halfback and Super League great, who replied: ''It's frightening what I know pal and probably you.''

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Looks like we have some "naive" people here.


    correct


    and the list starts and ends with you


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    Looks like we have some "naive" people here.


    correct


    and the list starts and ends with you


     
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    ^ you think you're enlightening us with the above story ?? Everyone knows that some players have used anabolic-androgenic steroids over the years - heck a number of them have been busted and banned for it. 

    It's an interesting little contradiction for our resident conspiracy maniac to ponder - why would NRL players look to gain an unfair edge by using AAS to be bigger, faster, stronger if all the games they play in are rigged with refs and 'all their family members' ect just getting in on the supposed fix every weekend ?? 

    Surely it wouldn't make sense to push the envelope with illegal substances to help you play better and achieve more success at the risk of fucking up your long term health and being caught if the games are rigged anyway??! 

    In fact, if all 300 or so NRL squad members are all on the take then why do any of them even train?? May as well just sit around and do nothing because it's all pretend anyway isn't it ?  

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    ^ you think you're enlightening us with the above story ?? Everyone knows that some players have used anabolic-androgenic steroids over the years - heck a number of them have been busted and banned for it. 

    It's an interesting little contradiction for our resident conspiracy maniac to ponder - why would NRL players look to gain an unfair edge by using AAS to be bigger, faster, stronger if all the games they play in are rigged with refs and 'all their family members' ect just getting in on the supposed fix every weekend ?? 

    Surely it wouldn't make sense to push the envelope with illegal substances to help you play better and achieve more success at the risk of fucking up your long term health and being caught if the games are rigged anyway??! 

    In fact, if all 300 or so NRL squad members are all on the take then why do any of them even train?? May as well just sit around and do nothing because it's all pretend anyway isn't it ?  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    If you win too many cheese sandwiches we will limit you to half a cheese sandwich

    baahaahhahahhaa fukn shittn meself 


    oh lordy, you are one funny fukka...

    do unibet do unibet... nah nah thats too easy

    this ad was thrashed during caulfeild guineas.. can picture all those happy TW punters getting their hundy back


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    Tom Waterhouse here,put $50 on Pierro in this week's Cox Plate and if he catches AIDS we will refund you with a cheese sandwich,with 4 generations of cheese in my blood,bet with me on your mobile





    If you win too many cheese sandwiches we will limit you to half a cheese sandwich

    baahaahhahahhaa fukn shittn meself 


    oh lordy, you are one funny fukka...

    do unibet do unibet... nah nah thats too easy

    this ad was thrashed during caulfeild guineas.. can picture all those happy TW punters getting their hundy back


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    ^ you think you're enlightening us with the above story ?? Everyone knows that some players have used anabolic-androgenic steroids over the years - heck a number of them have been busted and banned for it. 

    It's an interesting little contradiction for our resident conspiracy maniac to ponder - why would NRL players look to gain an unfair edge by using AAS to be bigger, faster, stronger if all the games they play in are rigged with refs and 'all their family members' ect just getting in on the supposed fix every weekend ?? 

    Surely it wouldn't make sense to push the envelope with illegal substances to help you play better and achieve more success at the risk of fucking up your long term health and being caught if the games are rigged anyway??! 

    In fact, if all 300 or so NRL squad members are all on the take then why do any of them even train?? May as well just sit around and do nothing because it's all pretend anyway isn't it ?  

    Not that im saying this may or may not be true, but that is like saying why do the wrestlers in WWE work out and train and so on as they are fixed results aint they? Hmmmm does make you wonder does it not???

    I think if we recall baseball many years ago, it does not take the entire team 2 fix a game but a mere 5 or 6 guys to fix the game, or even in more recent times look at cricket and the pakis, did the entire team need to be required to fix a game, i think not.

    So you really have made no point at all and in fact with light to what i have just pointed out you like some what simple.

    Plus to add to all this i think you are some what of a tool as well. Everybody is allowed to have thier own opinion and you are forever coming into Rostos threads and throwing around abuse.

    IF YOU DONT LIKE IT F**K OFF!!!!

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    ^ you think you're enlightening us with the above story ?? Everyone knows that some players have used anabolic-androgenic steroids over the years - heck a number of them have been busted and banned for it. 

    It's an interesting little contradiction for our resident conspiracy maniac to ponder - why would NRL players look to gain an unfair edge by using AAS to be bigger, faster, stronger if all the games they play in are rigged with refs and 'all their family members' ect just getting in on the supposed fix every weekend ?? 

    Surely it wouldn't make sense to push the envelope with illegal substances to help you play better and achieve more success at the risk of fucking up your long term health and being caught if the games are rigged anyway??! 

    In fact, if all 300 or so NRL squad members are all on the take then why do any of them even train?? May as well just sit around and do nothing because it's all pretend anyway isn't it ?  

    Not that im saying this may or may not be true, but that is like saying why do the wrestlers in WWE work out and train and so on as they are fixed results aint they? Hmmmm does make you wonder does it not???

    I think if we recall baseball many years ago, it does not take the entire team 2 fix a game but a mere 5 or 6 guys to fix the game, or even in more recent times look at cricket and the pakis, did the entire team need to be required to fix a game, i think not.

    So you really have made no point at all and in fact with light to what i have just pointed out you like some what simple.

    Plus to add to all this i think you are some what of a tool as well. Everybody is allowed to have thier own opinion and you are forever coming into Rostos threads and throwing around abuse.

    IF YOU DONT LIKE IT F**K OFF!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2012 - 6:12 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by snake2710:

    Not that im saying this may or may not be true, but that is like saying why do the wrestlers in WWE work out and train and so on as they are fixed results aint they? Hmmmm does make you wonder does it not??? Only an idiot compares WWE to anything

    I think if we recall baseball many years ago, it does not take the entire team 2 fix a game but a mere 5 or 6 guys to fix the game, or even in more recent times look at cricket and the pakis, did the entire team need to be required to fix a game, i think not. Rostos says all players, officials and refs are involved. Not some, all

    So you really have made no point at all and in fact with light to what i have just pointed out you like some what simple. No, you are the one making a fool of yourself

    Plus to add to all this i think you are some what of a tool as well. Everybody is allowed to have thier own opinion and you are forever coming into Rostos threads and throwing around abuse. opinions are fine, but rostos claims all this as fact, not opinion. Retards that lose on the punt and blame everybody else deserve all the abuse they get

    IF YOU DONT LIKE IT F**K OFF!!!! If you don't like it you fuck off

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    Not that im saying this may or may not be true, but that is like saying why do the wrestlers in WWE work out and train and so on as they are fixed results aint they? Hmmmm does make you wonder does it not??? Only an idiot compares WWE to anything

    I think if we recall baseball many years ago, it does not take the entire team 2 fix a game but a mere 5 or 6 guys to fix the game, or even in more recent times look at cricket and the pakis, did the entire team need to be required to fix a game, i think not. Rostos says all players, officials and refs are involved. Not some, all

    So you really have made no point at all and in fact with light to what i have just pointed out you like some what simple. No, you are the one making a fool of yourself

    Plus to add to all this i think you are some what of a tool as well. Everybody is allowed to have thier own opinion and you are forever coming into Rostos threads and throwing around abuse. opinions are fine, but rostos claims all this as fact, not opinion. Retards that lose on the punt and blame everybody else deserve all the abuse they get

    IF YOU DONT LIKE IT F**K OFF!!!! If you don't like it you fuck off

     
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    ^ go easy on snake, poor wretch clearly comes from a gene pool with a little too much chlorine in it... 

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    I just want to know why there are such staunch defenders in sports?

    There is evidence, convictions and criminal charges against sports people for the last 100 years for fixing games. Why do people act as if sports people are the epitomy of moral conduct?

    Lets look at the NBA for example....

    Tim Donaghy was cheating and rigging calls to satisfy his bets. He wasnt even caught by the NBA, he was caught by the FBI who were investigating a totally different case and they came accross one of Donaghys phone calls by pure random chance.

    What does this say about the NBA's internal compliance, protocols and corruption unit where a ref was able to cheat for years and not get caught until another dept caught him by chance?

    Then Stern comes out and says no other refs are cheating, how does he know? He didnt even catch Donaghy.

    What this proves is that it is extremely difficult to catch fixers, rorters etc.

    What about the Muhammd Ahmir debacle? It was even the ICC and there special anti corruption unit who caught him and his mates, it was a newspaper. In fact, the ICC have never caught anyone off their own bat.

    I laugh at people who say, why would people risk there careers and huge contracts for a little bit of cash? Didnt seem to stop Italian soccer stars who are paid as well as anyone in world sport yet there comp had to be stopped for corruption is rife. Look at tennis players etc etc.

    Did Davd Stern know what Donaghy was doing? Like the drug testers who tested Armstrong? But didn nothing about it? and let it continue?

    Stop living under a rock, where money is involved, evil, corruption and greed is closely behind it. Sports people are no different to anyone else in the world.

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    I just want to know why there are such staunch defenders in sports?

    There is evidence, convictions and criminal charges against sports people for the last 100 years for fixing games. Why do people act as if sports people are the epitomy of moral conduct?

    Lets look at the NBA for example....

    Tim Donaghy was cheating and rigging calls to satisfy his bets. He wasnt even caught by the NBA, he was caught by the FBI who were investigating a totally different case and they came accross one of Donaghys phone calls by pure random chance.

    What does this say about the NBA's internal compliance, protocols and corruption unit where a ref was able to cheat for years and not get caught until another dept caught him by chance?

    Then Stern comes out and says no other refs are cheating, how does he know? He didnt even catch Donaghy.

    What this proves is that it is extremely difficult to catch fixers, rorters etc.

    What about the Muhammd Ahmir debacle? It was even the ICC and there special anti corruption unit who caught him and his mates, it was a newspaper. In fact, the ICC have never caught anyone off their own bat.

    I laugh at people who say, why would people risk there careers and huge contracts for a little bit of cash? Didnt seem to stop Italian soccer stars who are paid as well as anyone in world sport yet there comp had to be stopped for corruption is rife. Look at tennis players etc etc.

    Did Davd Stern know what Donaghy was doing? Like the drug testers who tested Armstrong? But didn nothing about it? and let it continue?

    Stop living under a rock, where money is involved, evil, corruption and greed is closely behind it. Sports people are no different to anyone else in the world.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2012 - 10:51 PM ET #24

    "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

    The funny thing is, lets rewind the clock back what 7-8 years and after a game Donaghy reffed, i said, "that game was rigged, the ref was reffing to satisfy his bets".

    Everyone would be on my back saying i am a sore loser etc etc etc....

    Fast forward the clock?

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    "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

    The funny thing is, lets rewind the clock back what 7-8 years and after a game Donaghy reffed, i said, "that game was rigged, the ref was reffing to satisfy his bets".

    Everyone would be on my back saying i am a sore loser etc etc etc....

    Fast forward the clock?

     
     
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