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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2015 - 7:56 PM ET #1

    YTD: 21-10

    Some early lines I like from TAB

    Auckland -14.5 over Manawatu

    Waikato -12.5 over Southland

    Counties -8.5 over Harbour

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    YTD: 21-10

    Some early lines I like from TAB

    Auckland -14.5 over Manawatu

    Waikato -12.5 over Southland

    Counties -8.5 over Harbour

     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2015 - 9:07 PM ET #2

    I agree auck, waikato.   But why counties away.   North h home +8.5 i thought  good bet.    Gl anyway.    
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    I agree auck, waikato.   But why counties away.   North h home +8.5 i thought  good bet.    Gl anyway.    
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2015 - 9:53 PM ET #3

    Harbour suck massive d*ck whether they are away or home so that's enough for me to hit counties. Other games are quite tough
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    Harbour suck massive d*ck whether they are away or home so that's enough for me to hit counties. Other games are quite tough
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 1:45 AM ET #4

    Akld and Waik should both win by blowout, I agree.  Counties is definitely better than Harbor, although they showed some life at HB.  8.5 might be pushing it, that should come down to 7.

    Tasman-Wgn and Cant-HB are both tough matchups.  Taranaki look to have got their groove back so the Bay might get a hiding at home.  Naka laying 13.5 on TAB.

    Waiting on totals and 365 to put their lines up.
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    Akld and Waik should both win by blowout, I agree.  Counties is definitely better than Harbor, although they showed some life at HB.  8.5 might be pushing it, that should come down to 7.

    Tasman-Wgn and Cant-HB are both tough matchups.  Taranaki look to have got their groove back so the Bay might get a hiding at home.  Naka laying 13.5 on TAB.

    Waiting on totals and 365 to put their lines up.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 1:54 AM ET #5

    Think the counties line will keep moving up to 10 or more so hoping it doesn't before 365 releases it
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 6:25 AM ET #6

    Maybe.  When does 365 put them out, the day before?
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    Maybe.  When does 365 put them out, the day before?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 7:24 AM ET #7

    Just checked 365, the AKL game is up at -14.5 @ 1.80.

    That juice is brutal.  Same line at Pinnacle will be in the 1.90s.

    I haven't seen "3-way betting" before, I guess it means that a draw is possible?  Anyway that line is AKL -15 @ 1.90.  If they win by 15, it's still a push, I take it.
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    Just checked 365, the AKL game is up at -14.5 @ 1.80.

    That juice is brutal.  Same line at Pinnacle will be in the 1.90s.

    I haven't seen "3-way betting" before, I guess it means that a draw is possible?  Anyway that line is AKL -15 @ 1.90.  If they win by 15, it's still a push, I take it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 4:49 PM ET #8

    Yea no idea how the 3 way betting works so just sticking with the 2 way

    Auckland -14.5 @1.80
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    Yea no idea how the 3 way betting works so just sticking with the 2 way

    Auckland -14.5 @1.80
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 5:08 PM ET #9

    3 way betting , if cap -6, it finishes with fav winning by 6, you lose if you on + 6 or -6, yuo only win if you backed the hcap tie -6/+6 which is usually @ 15/1 to 22/1

    so a bummer really, however the hcap tie is always useful if your tissue is exactly the same as the cap line offerred, because you can back it at great odds

    alternatively, if the cap is say -6, and you want -5.5 ideally, back the -6 and the hcap tie with a comparative sized stake, and eureka, you now on the -5.5 you wanted
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    3 way betting , if cap -6, it finishes with fav winning by 6, you lose if you on + 6 or -6, yuo only win if you backed the hcap tie -6/+6 which is usually @ 15/1 to 22/1

    so a bummer really, however the hcap tie is always useful if your tissue is exactly the same as the cap line offerred, because you can back it at great odds

    alternatively, if the cap is say -6, and you want -5.5 ideally, back the -6 and the hcap tie with a comparative sized stake, and eureka, you now on the -5.5 you wanted
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 5:14 PM ET #10

    im a fan of auckland beating the cap

    i like the waikato minus but want to see how that weather pans out on thursday

    i m a big fan on harbour + 8.5, humiliated at home last outing, losing bonus point is surely within their grasp as a worst case against a young and rudderless counties.

    i fancy wellington to win at home v tasman

    my tissue initially says bop +13.5 could be a good one...+14.5 would be better...

    auckland minus and harbour plus are my 2 initial bets
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    im a fan of auckland beating the cap

    i like the waikato minus but want to see how that weather pans out on thursday

    i m a big fan on harbour + 8.5, humiliated at home last outing, losing bonus point is surely within their grasp as a worst case against a young and rudderless counties.

    i fancy wellington to win at home v tasman

    my tissue initially says bop +13.5 could be a good one...+14.5 would be better...

    auckland minus and harbour plus are my 2 initial bets
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 7:01 PM ET #11

    Oh I see, that makes sense. I just can't back Harbour, they are just so bad. Will see what the line is when it's released on 365 and yep, Waikato -points unless it's super shitty conditions.

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    Oh I see, that makes sense. I just can't back Harbour, they are just so bad. Will see what the line is when it's released on 365 and yep, Waikato -points unless it's super shitty conditions.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 10:16 PM ET #12

    That can't be how it works, jabba.  It's -15 @ 1.90.  Surely it would be a much higher number than 1.90 if you lose instead of pushing.
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    That can't be how it works, jabba.  It's -15 @ 1.90.  Surely it would be a much higher number than 1.90 if you lose instead of pushing.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 10:54 PM ET #13

    Just checked with 365, you were right, under 3way a push is considered a loss   what scamming person!

    As for Waikato, I don't think the weather is going to save Southland.  They'd need a snow storm to cover the 12.5
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    Just checked with 365, you were right, under 3way a push is considered a loss   what scamming person!

    As for Waikato, I don't think the weather is going to save Southland.  They'd need a snow storm to cover the 12.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 10:58 PM ET #14

    Agree with you Vegas, hence by super shitty conditions it'd be like that Otago Naki game
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2015 - 11:15 PM ET #15

    What do you think about that Tasman game, Phat?  Tasman are good, especially at home.  WGN starting to turn it on though.

    Canterbury play better on the road it seems, HB might cover that 7 and a hook.
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    What do you think about that Tasman game, Phat?  Tasman are good, especially at home.  WGN starting to turn it on though.

    Canterbury play better on the road it seems, HB might cover that 7 and a hook.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 1:25 AM ET #16

    Pinnacle just put it up, jumped on <b> AKL -14.5 @ 1.952</b>

    Rain is scheduled pre-game but should clear out by kick off.  Even with a wet surface, Manawatu shouldn't get within 20 if Auckland shows up.
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    Pinnacle just put it up, jumped on <b> AKL -14.5 @ 1.952</b>

    Rain is scheduled pre-game but should clear out by kick off.  Even with a wet surface, Manawatu shouldn't get within 20 if Auckland shows up.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 1:30 AM ET #17

    Wellington is playing home isnt it.

    Agree guys.   Southland is very bad team.  

    I still feel nh home will cover +8.5.     Few weeks ago i thought counties is playng good rugby.   They only played well sofar vs canterbury.  Rest of the games they plyed crap.  

    Even north h not like last year.  Sofar they are playing ok......

    Hi again just my feeling.... 

    As said i hate to go against phat.    See how need more infors....
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    Wellington is playing home isnt it.

    Agree guys.   Southland is very bad team.  

    I still feel nh home will cover +8.5.     Few weeks ago i thought counties is playng good rugby.   They only played well sofar vs canterbury.  Rest of the games they plyed crap.  

    Even north h not like last year.  Sofar they are playing ok......

    Hi again just my feeling.... 

    As said i hate to go against phat.    See how need more infors....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 2:27 AM ET #18

    Yup, Wellington is at home and they'll want payback for the hiding Tasman gave them in the capital last year.


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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 2:40 AM ET #19

    Nz tab.  Now auck.  -16.5,   Nh +6.5.    
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 2:42 AM ET #20

    Wellington win 1.60,   Canterbury win 1.35,  auck win 1.14,  waikato win 1.20 

    Goodddddddddd money. 
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    Wellington win 1.60,   Canterbury win 1.35,  auck win 1.14,  waikato win 1.20 

    Goodddddddddd money. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 2:48 AM ET #21

    Yea not sure on the Wellington Tasman game, that's a hard one to pick. May have to stay away from that, if 365 opens the Harbour Counties game at 6.5 I'm definitely taking Counties.

    Cantab Hawkes bay is also tough so we'll see how lines open on 365 
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    Yea not sure on the Wellington Tasman game, that's a hard one to pick. May have to stay away from that, if 365 opens the Harbour Counties game at 6.5 I'm definitely taking Counties.

    Cantab Hawkes bay is also tough so we'll see how lines open on 365 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 2:50 AM ET #22

    Auckland moved to 16.5 on TAB NZ so get on the -14.5 on other sites ASAP
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 5:55 PM ET #23

    manawatu +16.5 taking some cash...
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 6:20 PM ET #24

    It was -14.5 yesterday at bet365.   Now -13.5 phat.   Whats happening.   Whats the weather like in auckland..
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    It was -14.5 yesterday at bet365.   Now -13.5 phat.   Whats happening.   Whats the weather like in auckland..
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2015 - 6:40 PM ET #25

    Weather is nice here, no wind but storm coming tomorrow morning I think. Not sure if any rain comes tonight
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