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    Force @ Reds - Suncorp, Round One

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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 2:15 PM ET #1

    Well, after the Bulls looked like the U.S National Team in the 2nd Half, I am looking to get after one.

    Reds -10.5 at home to the Force is the final game.  Here are the teams and recent results.  Look at the games in Brisbane.

    Last five matches
    Sun, 14 Mar 2010 Reds v Force 50-10 Brisbane
    Fri, 03 Apr 2009 Reds v Force 7-39 Perth
    Fri, 18 Apr 2008 Reds v Force 29-12 Brisbane
    Fri, 16 Mar 2007 Reds v Force 3-38 Perth
    Sat,11 Mar 2006 Reds v Force 29-18 Brisbane
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    Well, after the Bulls looked like the U.S National Team in the 2nd Half, I am looking to get after one.

    Reds -10.5 at home to the Force is the final game.  Here are the teams and recent results.  Look at the games in Brisbane.

    Last five matches
    Sun, 14 Mar 2010 Reds v Force 50-10 Brisbane
    Fri, 03 Apr 2009 Reds v Force 7-39 Perth
    Fri, 18 Apr 2008 Reds v Force 29-12 Brisbane
    Fri, 16 Mar 2007 Reds v Force 3-38 Perth
    Sat,11 Mar 2006 Reds v Force 29-18 Brisbane
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 2:15 PM ET #2

    Reds: 15 Peter Hynes, 14 Rod Davies, 13 Will Chambers, 12 Anthony Faingaa, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia, 8 Leroy Houston, 7 Ed Quirk, 6 James Horwill, 5 Rob Simmons, 4 Van Humphries, 3 James Slipper, 2 Saia Faingaa, 1 Ben Daley.
    Replacements: 16 James Hanson, 17 Greg Holmes, 18 Scott Higginbotham, 19 Beau Robinson, 20 Ben Lucas, 21 Mike Harris, 22 Aidan Toua.

    Western Force: 15 Cameron Shepherd, 14 Nick Cummins, 13 Mitch Inman, 12 Gene Fairbanks, 11 David Smith, 10 James O'Connor, 9 Brett Sheehan, 8 Richard Brown, 7 David Pocock, 6 Matt Hodgson, 5 Nathan Sharpe, 4 Ben McCalman, 3 Tim Fairbrother, 2 Ben Whittaker, 1 Pek Cowan.
    Replacements: 16 Nathan Charles, 17 Kieran Longbottom, 18 Sam Wykes, 19 Tevita Metuisela, 20 James Stannard, 21 Alfie Mafi, 22 Rory Sidey.

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    Reds: 15 Peter Hynes, 14 Rod Davies, 13 Will Chambers, 12 Anthony Faingaa, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia, 8 Leroy Houston, 7 Ed Quirk, 6 James Horwill, 5 Rob Simmons, 4 Van Humphries, 3 James Slipper, 2 Saia Faingaa, 1 Ben Daley.
    Replacements: 16 James Hanson, 17 Greg Holmes, 18 Scott Higginbotham, 19 Beau Robinson, 20 Ben Lucas, 21 Mike Harris, 22 Aidan Toua.

    Western Force: 15 Cameron Shepherd, 14 Nick Cummins, 13 Mitch Inman, 12 Gene Fairbanks, 11 David Smith, 10 James O'Connor, 9 Brett Sheehan, 8 Richard Brown, 7 David Pocock, 6 Matt Hodgson, 5 Nathan Sharpe, 4 Ben McCalman, 3 Tim Fairbrother, 2 Ben Whittaker, 1 Pek Cowan.
    Replacements: 16 Nathan Charles, 17 Kieran Longbottom, 18 Sam Wykes, 19 Tevita Metuisela, 20 James Stannard, 21 Alfie Mafi, 22 Rory Sidey.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 2:19 PM ET #3

    Most are saying the Reds are going to be brilliant this year and their line-up certainly smacks of that.

    Ripia out for the Force and O'Connor comes in instead.

    If the Reds are as good as they ever have been, and the Force look iffy, then give me a reason why the Reds can't continue their dominance over the Force at Suncorp?  They would have covered the -10.5 in the last three matches there, so why can't they tonight?

    Let's hear it boys.  Give your .02 cents and let's finish the round on a winning note.



    Leaning:  Reds -10.5

    Reason:  Reds' line-up looks dominant and their performance at Suncorp against the Force is eye-opening.
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    Most are saying the Reds are going to be brilliant this year and their line-up certainly smacks of that.

    Ripia out for the Force and O'Connor comes in instead.

    If the Reds are as good as they ever have been, and the Force look iffy, then give me a reason why the Reds can't continue their dominance over the Force at Suncorp?  They would have covered the -10.5 in the last three matches there, so why can't they tonight?

    Let's hear it boys.  Give your .02 cents and let's finish the round on a winning note.



    Leaning:  Reds -10.5

    Reason:  Reds' line-up looks dominant and their performance at Suncorp against the Force is eye-opening.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 2:20 PM ET #4



    For later.
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 7:57 PM ET #5

    So no one has any opinions on this match.

    Wonderful.


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    So no one has any opinions on this match.

    Wonderful.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 8:11 PM ET #6

    Reds might not even win this game let alone cover the spread
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 8:19 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Reds might not even win this game let alone cover the spread


    I am trying to understand this.

    Reds have owned the Force at Suncorp.

    Reds are better this season (on paper) than last while the Force have stayed still (for the most part).

    Reds trial matches they have been in wonderful harmonious form.

    Why would they struggle tonight?

    Round One jitters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Reds might not even win this game let alone cover the spread


    I am trying to understand this.

    Reds have owned the Force at Suncorp.

    Reds are better this season (on paper) than last while the Force have stayed still (for the most part).

    Reds trial matches they have been in wonderful harmonious form.

    Why would they struggle tonight?

    Round One jitters?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 8:19 PM ET #8

    Rod is on the Force but he never gives any reasoning, so I don't get it.
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    Rod is on the Force but he never gives any reasoning, so I don't get it.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 8:40 PM ET #9

    Force are not that bad,on there day there capable of playing good rugby,wins over the Stormers and Crusaders proved last year what they can do on a good day

    Just back whatever you like,don't worry about what other people say
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    Force are not that bad,on there day there capable of playing good rugby,wins over the Stormers and Crusaders proved last year what they can do on a good day

    Just back whatever you like,don't worry about what other people say
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 9:00 PM ET #10

    Just wanna hear other opinions, that's all.

    Force are $5.50 are 1-12.  Reds are actually lower-priced ($1.95) at 13+ than at 1-12 ($2.75).

    Which tells me the books don't think the Force will win this.

    And, if the Reds win, it's not going to be close (single digits).

    I am just wondering, if you like the Force, why would that be.  Of course they had had matches last season against some good sides, but if you look at the record versus the Reds at Suncorp, all you get are Force horror stories.


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    Just wanna hear other opinions, that's all.

    Force are $5.50 are 1-12.  Reds are actually lower-priced ($1.95) at 13+ than at 1-12 ($2.75).

    Which tells me the books don't think the Force will win this.

    And, if the Reds win, it's not going to be close (single digits).

    I am just wondering, if you like the Force, why would that be.  Of course they had had matches last season against some good sides, but if you look at the record versus the Reds at Suncorp, all you get are Force horror stories.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 9:04 PM ET #11

    First Score:

    Reds Try $2.75
    Force Try $8.00




    Halftime Margin:

    Reds 15+ at $3.50 is the cheapest price.  8-14- and 1-7 are $3.65 and $3.75.


    All this, to me, shows the books' confidence lies on the Reds.

    Or am I wrong here?
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    First Score:

    Reds Try $2.75
    Force Try $8.00




    Halftime Margin:

    Reds 15+ at $3.50 is the cheapest price.  8-14- and 1-7 are $3.65 and $3.75.


    All this, to me, shows the books' confidence lies on the Reds.

    Or am I wrong here?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 9:09 PM ET #12

    I was wrong on the Bulls -12.5.  They looked lethargic and sucked hot asshole in the 2nd Half.

    Don't wanna be wrong here again and all I can see here is one-way traffic.  The Reds backline look magic and with O'Connor being forced to flyhalf from his intended role at fullback, the Force will lose attacking prowess.  He will not be as effective from 10 as he would have been from 15.  That plays right into the Reds hands as their backline looks stale.  If Reds can get 50% of the ball even, they might run silly legs all over the Force.

    If I am blinded on this one, I need someone to tell me.

    Or is it really this obvious?
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    I was wrong on the Bulls -12.5.  They looked lethargic and sucked hot asshole in the 2nd Half.

    Don't wanna be wrong here again and all I can see here is one-way traffic.  The Reds backline look magic and with O'Connor being forced to flyhalf from his intended role at fullback, the Force will lose attacking prowess.  He will not be as effective from 10 as he would have been from 15.  That plays right into the Reds hands as their backline looks stale.  If Reds can get 50% of the ball even, they might run silly legs all over the Force.

    If I am blinded on this one, I need someone to tell me.

    Or is it really this obvious?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 9:29 PM ET #13

    I think the Reds will flog the Force, HoH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I think the Reds will flog the Force, HoH



    For the reasons I stated?  Or something else?

    It just feels so odd to feel so right about this and if it loses, then I think I will need to take some time off as my feelers are definitely screwed up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I think the Reds will flog the Force, HoH



    For the reasons I stated?  Or something else?

    It just feels so odd to feel so right about this and if it loses, then I think I will need to take some time off as my feelers are definitely screwed up.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 9:45 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I think the Reds will flog the Force, HoH





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    I think the Reds will flog the Force, HoH





     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 10:05 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



    For the reasons I stated?  Or something else?

    It just feels so odd to feel so right about this and if it loses, then I think I will need to take some time off as my feelers are definitely screwed up.


    Pretty much what you have already said in this thread mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



    For the reasons I stated?  Or something else?

    It just feels so odd to feel so right about this and if it loses, then I think I will need to take some time off as my feelers are definitely screwed up.


    Pretty much what you have already said in this thread mate

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 10:20 PM ET #17

    The reds will flog the force as much as I would flog Julia Gillard in bed.
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    Question Time is like porn to Bolar
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 10:28 PM ET #19

    Id chuck a pillow at Julia
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    Julia reminds me of a penguin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    The reds will flog the force as much as I would flog Julia Gillard in bed.


    Well, according to what I have read about you and Julia, that means that the Reds win in a canter.

    Hahaha...

    Great insight!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    The reds will flog the force as much as I would flog Julia Gillard in bed.


    Well, according to what I have read about you and Julia, that means that the Reds win in a canter.

    Hahaha...

    Great insight!


     
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    Oh, and the Reds have Will Chambers, so you know the fix is in and it will work against the Force.

    Do you think Queensland picked him up for his playing abilities?


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    Oh, and the Reds have Will Chambers, so you know the fix is in and it will work against the Force.

    Do you think Queensland picked him up for his playing abilities?


     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 11:06 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Just wanna hear other opinions, that's all.

    Force are $5.50 are 1-12.  Reds are actually lower-priced ($1.95) at 13+ than at 1-12 ($2.75).

    Which tells me the books don't think the Force will win this.

    And, if the Reds win, it's not going to be close (single digits).

    I am just wondering, if you like the Force, why would that be.  Of course they had had matches last season against some good sides, but if you look at the record versus the Reds at Suncorp, all you get are Force horror stories.



    haah dude...the reason why they are 1.95 13+ is because the line is -11.. douche
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Just wanna hear other opinions, that's all.

    Force are $5.50 are 1-12.  Reds are actually lower-priced ($1.95) at 13+ than at 1-12 ($2.75).

    Which tells me the books don't think the Force will win this.

    And, if the Reds win, it's not going to be close (single digits).

    I am just wondering, if you like the Force, why would that be.  Of course they had had matches last season against some good sides, but if you look at the record versus the Reds at Suncorp, all you get are Force horror stories.



    haah dude...the reason why they are 1.95 13+ is because the line is -11.. douche
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 11:12 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Juniordawg:


    haah dude...the reason why they are 1.95 13+ is because the line is -11.. douche


    And if the line was:

    1-12 $2.05
    13+ $2.25

    ????????????

    Read between the lines blockhead.

    I must be awesome enough if 5% of your entire post total is calling me a "douche."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Juniordawg:


    haah dude...the reason why they are 1.95 13+ is because the line is -11.. douche


    And if the line was:

    1-12 $2.05
    13+ $2.25

    ????????????

    Read between the lines blockhead.

    I must be awesome enough if 5% of your entire post total is calling me a "douche."


     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2011 - 11:27 PM ET #25

    Queensland Reds should be 21.5 favourites
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