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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 3:40 AM ET #1

    Lads
     
    Today I have experienced a very dissapointing dipute with Centrebet where they have refused to recognise accepted bets that were winning and processed those that were losing.  To say that I am astonished is an understatement and I am happy to divulge details privately to anyone interested.
     
    My question is, could somebody please advise of the government body that regulates the sports wagering activities of Australian books?
     
    Many thanks.
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    Lads
     
    Today I have experienced a very dissapointing dipute with Centrebet where they have refused to recognise accepted bets that were winning and processed those that were losing.  To say that I am astonished is an understatement and I am happy to divulge details privately to anyone interested.
     
    My question is, could somebody please advise of the government body that regulates the sports wagering activities of Australian books?
     
    Many thanks.
     
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    I'd be astonished if CB didn't recognise a winning bet which was accepted. I'm pretty curious so would love to know your situation in more detail given I use them quite frequently.
     
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    I'd be astonished if CB didn't recognise a winning bet which was accepted. I'm pretty curious so would love to know your situation in more detail given I use them quite frequently.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 4:55 AM ET #3

    I noticed recently, and by recently, I mean in the past 2? months or so, give or take.......CBet has been cashing my (winning) 5 inning baseball bets before the game is over. I've never had a book do that before.

    Other than having to point out wrong starting pitchers or even prices (they had $1.01 listed for both teams several days ago) about every 7-10 days to them, I've never had no probs with them.

    Is that 5 inning thing along the same lines as what you are talking about? Or what sport we talking about here?
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    I noticed recently, and by recently, I mean in the past 2? months or so, give or take.......CBet has been cashing my (winning) 5 inning baseball bets before the game is over. I've never had a book do that before.

    Other than having to point out wrong starting pitchers or even prices (they had $1.01 listed for both teams several days ago) about every 7-10 days to them, I've never had no probs with them.

    Is that 5 inning thing along the same lines as what you are talking about? Or what sport we talking about here?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 6:59 AM ET #4

    One of the worst books out there. Unless you are either a small timer or a losing client, then you will be welcome. Stick with Aussie books that man up and take bets of substance eg sporting bet aussie or betstar.
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    One of the worst books out there. Unless you are either a small timer or a losing client, then you will be welcome. Stick with Aussie books that man up and take bets of substance eg sporting bet aussie or betstar.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 7:53 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Davenz:

    One of the worst books out there. Unless you are either a small timer or a losing client, then you will be welcome. Stick with Aussie books that man up and take bets of substance eg sporting bet aussie or betstar.


    Very, very lame on your part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davenz:

    One of the worst books out there. Unless you are either a small timer or a losing client, then you will be welcome. Stick with Aussie books that man up and take bets of substance eg sporting bet aussie or betstar.


    Very, very lame on your part.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 8:05 AM ET #6

    I have no Idea why you would say that. Please explain.
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    I have no Idea why you would say that. Please explain.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 11:36 AM ET #7

    Hey man i had an issue with a book and emailed these guys here
     
    gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au they will investigate it and let you know the outcome within a week
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    Hey man i had an issue with a book and emailed these guys here
     
    gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au they will investigate it and let you know the outcome within a week
     
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    Hey man i had an issue with a book and emailed these guys here
     
    gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au  they are the governing body of australian books, they will investigate it and let you know the outcome within a week
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    Hey man i had an issue with a book and emailed these guys here
     
    gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au  they are the governing body of australian books, they will investigate it and let you know the outcome within a week
     
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    Hey man i had an issue with a book and emailed these guys here
     
    gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au  they are the governing body of australian books, they will reply back to you within a week and  investigate it and let you know the outcome
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    Hey man i had an issue with a book and emailed these guys here
     
    gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au  they are the governing body of australian books, they will reply back to you within a week and  investigate it and let you know the outcome
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 12:46 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    I noticed recently, and by recently, I mean in the past 2? months or so, give or take.......CBet has been cashing my (winning) 5 inning baseball bets before the game is over. I've never had a book do that before.


    i dont play 5 innings but i have played mlb 1st innings, nba 1st halfs and nrl 1st halfs on sportingbet.com.au and they always settle the wager after the 1st inning or 1st half so wat they are doing is not wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    I noticed recently, and by recently, I mean in the past 2? months or so, give or take.......CBet has been cashing my (winning) 5 inning baseball bets before the game is over. I've never had a book do that before.


    i dont play 5 innings but i have played mlb 1st innings, nba 1st halfs and nrl 1st halfs on sportingbet.com.au and they always settle the wager after the 1st inning or 1st half so wat they are doing is not wrong

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    I noticed recently, and by recently, I mean in the past 2? months or so, give or take.......CBet has been cashing my (winning) 5 inning baseball bets before the game is over. I've never had a book do that before.

    Other than having to point out wrong starting pitchers or even prices (they had $1.01 listed for both teams several days ago) about every 7-10 days to them, I've never had no probs with them.

    Is that 5 inning thing along the same lines as what you are talking about? Or what sport we talking about here?

    Even in basketball they settle 1H bets after the half and not wait until the completion of the game. Fairly common practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    I noticed recently, and by recently, I mean in the past 2? months or so, give or take.......CBet has been cashing my (winning) 5 inning baseball bets before the game is over. I've never had a book do that before.

    Other than having to point out wrong starting pitchers or even prices (they had $1.01 listed for both teams several days ago) about every 7-10 days to them, I've never had no probs with them.

    Is that 5 inning thing along the same lines as what you are talking about? Or what sport we talking about here?

    Even in basketball they settle 1H bets after the half and not wait until the completion of the game. Fairly common practice.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 6:58 PM ET #12

    Will PM you Rod, given that this dispute is likely to be resolved by legal action probably not appropriate to detail here.  As for the email address King D, thanks but might leave that one to you.
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    Will PM you Rod, given that this dispute is likely to be resolved by legal action probably not appropriate to detail here.  As for the email address King D, thanks but might leave that one to you.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2009 - 7:16 PM ET #13

    I really am intrigued now. Anyway will wait for the PM, hope you are able to resolve the issue
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    I really am intrigued now. Anyway will wait for the PM, hope you are able to resolve the issue
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Will PM you Rod, given that this dispute is likely to be resolved by legal action probably not appropriate to detail here.  As for the email address King D, thanks but might leave that one to you.

    no worries man your not going to email them they will help you heres the website its not phony or nothing

    https://www.nt.gov.au/ you can mail them or call them as well

    Disputes must be submitted in writing to: Manager Racing
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    PO Box 1154
    Darwin NT 0801
    Australia
    Facsimile: (08) 8999 1303
    email: gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au

    and you can check here https://www.canbet.com.au/help/company_rules.aspx#sportsbetting

    look@ number 73 general betting rules there stuff is there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Will PM you Rod, given that this dispute is likely to be resolved by legal action probably not appropriate to detail here.  As for the email address King D, thanks but might leave that one to you.

    no worries man your not going to email them they will help you heres the website its not phony or nothing

    https://www.nt.gov.au/ you can mail them or call them as well

    Disputes must be submitted in writing to: Manager Racing
    Northern Territory Racing Commission
    PO Box 1154
    Darwin NT 0801
    Australia
    Facsimile: (08) 8999 1303
    email: gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au

    and you can check here https://www.canbet.com.au/help/company_rules.aspx#sportsbetting

    look@ number 73 general betting rules there stuff is there

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 3:56 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Even in basketball they settle 1H bets after the half and not wait until the completion of the game. Fairly common practice.

      absolutley correct 1st half 1st quarters 1st inning thye always settle before the game finishes but today was wierd sportingbet.com.au settled my parra and over full game winning when they was still 6 minutes on the clock and parra up 40-8 i said thanks to them cos thats the first time ever they settled with 5 minutes remaining sportingbet.com are the good guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Even in basketball they settle 1H bets after the half and not wait until the completion of the game. Fairly common practice.

      absolutley correct 1st half 1st quarters 1st inning thye always settle before the game finishes but today was wierd sportingbet.com.au settled my parra and over full game winning when they was still 6 minutes on the clock and parra up 40-8 i said thanks to them cos thats the first time ever they settled with 5 minutes remaining sportingbet.com are the good guys

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 10:27 PM ET #16

    and why wouldn't they settle your bets quickly, they want you to cycle to money and increase their chances of taking it off you.

    Very strange from Centrebet always known them to be completely professional. That said I have not used them for a while.
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    and why wouldn't they settle your bets quickly, they want you to cycle to money and increase their chances of taking it off you.

    Very strange from Centrebet always known them to be completely professional. That said I have not used them for a while.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 6:35 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Davenz:

    One of the worst books out there. Unless you are either a small timer or a losing client, then you will be welcome. Stick with Aussie books that man up and take bets of substance eg sporting bet aussie or betstar.



    sportingbet a book of substance

    sportingbet manning up

    betsar they just copy others prices and raise the juice

    The only books that will take a bet of any size are the TAB's books. The rest are gutless shits. IAS used to, but Paddy Power will put pay to that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davenz:

    One of the worst books out there. Unless you are either a small timer or a losing client, then you will be welcome. Stick with Aussie books that man up and take bets of substance eg sporting bet aussie or betstar.



    sportingbet a book of substance

    sportingbet manning up

    betsar they just copy others prices and raise the juice

    The only books that will take a bet of any size are the TAB's books. The rest are gutless shits. IAS used to, but Paddy Power will put pay to that
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingD:

    no worries man your not going to email them they will help you heres the website its not phony or nothing

    https://www.nt.gov.au/ you can mail them or call them as well

    Disputes must be submitted in writing to: Manager Racing
    Northern Territory Racing Commission
    PO Box 1154
    Darwin NT 0801
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    Facsimile: (08) 8999 1303
    email: gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au

    and you can check here https://www.canbet.com.au/help/company_rules.aspx#sportsbetting

    look@ number 73 general betting rules there stuff is there



    gun, this is the regulatory body for books licensed in the Northern Territory. Tell Centrebet you are going to take it up with this mob, and if Centrebet do nothing then contact them
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingD:

    no worries man your not going to email them they will help you heres the website its not phony or nothing

    https://www.nt.gov.au/ you can mail them or call them as well

    Disputes must be submitted in writing to: Manager Racing
    Northern Territory Racing Commission
    PO Box 1154
    Darwin NT 0801
    Australia
    Facsimile: (08) 8999 1303
    email: gamblingdisputes@nt.gov.au

    and you can check here https://www.canbet.com.au/help/company_rules.aspx#sportsbetting

    look@ number 73 general betting rules there stuff is there



    gun, this is the regulatory body for books licensed in the Northern Territory. Tell Centrebet you are going to take it up with this mob, and if Centrebet do nothing then contact them
     
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    Thanks KingD / Second, precisely what I have done.  Issued a formal request today for the situation to be rectified, and failing that I will seek the intervention of the NT Racing Commission.  I don't hold hope that the Racing Commission will do much, but a necessary step prior to litigation.
     
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    Thanks KingD / Second, precisely what I have done.  Issued a formal request today for the situation to be rectified, and failing that I will seek the intervention of the NT Racing Commission.  I don't hold hope that the Racing Commission will do much, but a necessary step prior to litigation.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 8:07 AM ET #20

    PM me a copy of what happened as well Gun as I am very interested as I've had a couple of issues with them as well. 
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    PM me a copy of what happened as well Gun as I am very interested as I've had a couple of issues with them as well. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Thanks KingD / Second, precisely what I have done.  Issued a formal request today for the situation to be rectified, and failing that I will seek the intervention of the NT Racing Commission.  I don't hold hope that the Racing Commission will do much, but a necessary step prior to litigation.
     

    No worries champ i hope ur issue gets resolved, theyll prob take about a week to reply back to you to let you know they have read ur complaint, and then they will investiagate and let you know the outcome 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Thanks KingD / Second, precisely what I have done.  Issued a formal request today for the situation to be rectified, and failing that I will seek the intervention of the NT Racing Commission.  I don't hold hope that the Racing Commission will do much, but a necessary step prior to litigation.
     

    No worries champ i hope ur issue gets resolved, theyll prob take about a week to reply back to you to let you know they have read ur complaint, and then they will investiagate and let you know the outcome 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 8:56 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    and why wouldn't they settle your bets quickly, they want you to cycle to money and increase their chances of taking it off you.

    Very strange from Centrebet always known them to be completely professional. That said I have not used them for a while.

    somtimes they take ages to settle bets sometimes i rekon they take long on purpose so you deposit more money in

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    and why wouldn't they settle your bets quickly, they want you to cycle to money and increase their chances of taking it off you.

    Very strange from Centrebet always known them to be completely professional. That said I have not used them for a while.

    somtimes they take ages to settle bets sometimes i rekon they take long on purpose so you deposit more money in

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 10:25 AM ET #23

    Gun, I have only one book and its CENTREBET, I am very intrigued with the situation. Please except my friend request and share the issue.If they a dodgy I would rather know and hopefully avoid the same situation happening to me. Cheers
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    Gun, I have only one book and its CENTREBET, I am very intrigued with the situation. Please except my friend request and share the issue.If they a dodgy I would rather know and hopefully avoid the same situation happening to me. Cheers
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 8:46 PM ET #24

    same here ozfactor. only use CB.

    i am intrigued also. if you dont mind please let me know your issue.

    thanks
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    same here ozfactor. only use CB.

    i am intrigued also. if you dont mind please let me know your issue.

    thanks
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 3:42 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:




    sportingbet a book of substance

    sportingbet manning up

    betsar they just copy others prices and raise the juice



    Bullseye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:




    sportingbet a book of substance

    sportingbet manning up

    betsar they just copy others prices and raise the juice



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