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    Battler's State of Origin: Game 3

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    Aussie Battler
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2009 - 11:05 PM ET #1

    I just listened to Geoff Carr be interviewed. I have heard him plenty of times before and have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that will do me.
     
    For those who don't know, Geoff Carr is the CEO of NSWRL.
     
    He needs to go. He sounded completely inept, devoid of ideas, defensive, arrogant and plain stupid. If NSWRL needs to change it's structure and approach to Origin, which they clearly do, I think they need to start at the top.
     
    The selectors need to go as well. All of them. I'm not even convinced that there should be selectors. Let the coach pick the team and thereby he can be truly accountable for the result.
     
    It's come out today that Bellamy wanted Mullen for game one, didn't get him. Campese was duly punted, and he wanted Mullen for game two. Didn't get him. I'm not suggeting that the result would have been any different, but a coach can't implement his plan if he hasn't even got the side he wants. Now, I'm not sure if Bellamy will even be there next year, but you can't place all the blame on him when he didn't get the team he wanted.
     
    Perhaps let him have another crack next year but let him pick the side. If he picks his Melbourne players again (Turner, White) and NSW fail, sack him. Pretty fucking simple I would have thought.
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    I just listened to Geoff Carr be interviewed. I have heard him plenty of times before and have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that will do me.
     
    For those who don't know, Geoff Carr is the CEO of NSWRL.
     
    He needs to go. He sounded completely inept, devoid of ideas, defensive, arrogant and plain stupid. If NSWRL needs to change it's structure and approach to Origin, which they clearly do, I think they need to start at the top.
     
    The selectors need to go as well. All of them. I'm not even convinced that there should be selectors. Let the coach pick the team and thereby he can be truly accountable for the result.
     
    It's come out today that Bellamy wanted Mullen for game one, didn't get him. Campese was duly punted, and he wanted Mullen for game two. Didn't get him. I'm not suggeting that the result would have been any different, but a coach can't implement his plan if he hasn't even got the side he wants. Now, I'm not sure if Bellamy will even be there next year, but you can't place all the blame on him when he didn't get the team he wanted.
     
    Perhaps let him have another crack next year but let him pick the side. If he picks his Melbourne players again (Turner, White) and NSW fail, sack him. Pretty fucking simple I would have thought.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #2

    Agreed well said  
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 12:46 AM ET #3

    You have to laugh at you two....No Idea V1 (Battler), please change Geoff Carr to your name and the NSWRL to the HOG's tips and you have just described yourself....the fact No idea V2 (Chk) backs you up is to funny...

     

    Now before you both get in a complete tizzz about me posting on your thread, you have got to appreciate that you keep gifting me these opportunities....

     

    BOL today, please take the HOG’s tips, PLEASE!!!

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    You have to laugh at you two....No Idea V1 (Battler), please change Geoff Carr to your name and the NSWRL to the HOG's tips and you have just described yourself....the fact No idea V2 (Chk) backs you up is to funny...

     

    Now before you both get in a complete tizzz about me posting on your thread, you have got to appreciate that you keep gifting me these opportunities....

     

    BOL today, please take the HOG’s tips, PLEASE!!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 1:06 AM ET #4

    bert you are my hero mate!!! I have posters of you up in my house! Infact i even have an oil painting of you!!! I am currently working on a website dedicated to you!!!!!!!! Your knoweledge of Rugby League is extraordinary and i really do strive to be like you! 
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    bert you are my hero mate!!! I have posters of you up in my house! Infact i even have an oil painting of you!!! I am currently working on a website dedicated to you!!!!!!!! Your knoweledge of Rugby League is extraordinary and i really do strive to be like you! 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 1:35 AM ET #5

    This should HELP......
     

    Titans v. Warriors  

     

    Another game that the player ratings do not put up a clear favourite but with the poor away record of the Warriors in conjunction with the good home record of the Titans, it skews the ratings pretty clearly to the home team. Even without Bailey and Harrison the Titans have a slight advantage in their hard working forward pack. Yes the Warriors have a big pack but they tend to struggle against physical packs who keep fronting up to them all game.

     

    Not much in it at the line but stick with the Black Prince to get the Titans home covering the 6.5 start. 

     

    Rooster v. Sharks

     

    Turn off the porch light, Harolds' coming home. Yes the tip is the Roosters, the cockle doodleless will crack it for a win. The forwards and the bench are very even but the Roosters even without Braith have an advantage over the Shark backs. It is a sad indictment on the game of Rugby League when the team running last, who have lost their captain and six, can still outrate the oppositions backline. The Roosters would have targeted this game as winable and they have a great record against the gummies. Look for a very big game from Junior Junior who will take the criticism as a kick up the butt and show what he is made of.

     

    Look around for the best start the Roosters and dont put an early "Holt" on celebrations, Harold does not come home to often.

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    This should HELP......
     

    Titans v. Warriors  

     

    Another game that the player ratings do not put up a clear favourite but with the poor away record of the Warriors in conjunction with the good home record of the Titans, it skews the ratings pretty clearly to the home team. Even without Bailey and Harrison the Titans have a slight advantage in their hard working forward pack. Yes the Warriors have a big pack but they tend to struggle against physical packs who keep fronting up to them all game.

     

    Not much in it at the line but stick with the Black Prince to get the Titans home covering the 6.5 start. 

     

    Rooster v. Sharks

     

    Turn off the porch light, Harolds' coming home. Yes the tip is the Roosters, the cockle doodleless will crack it for a win. The forwards and the bench are very even but the Roosters even without Braith have an advantage over the Shark backs. It is a sad indictment on the game of Rugby League when the team running last, who have lost their captain and six, can still outrate the oppositions backline. The Roosters would have targeted this game as winable and they have a great record against the gummies. Look for a very big game from Junior Junior who will take the criticism as a kick up the butt and show what he is made of.

     

    Look around for the best start the Roosters and dont put an early "Holt" on celebrations, Harold does not come home to often.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 1:36 AM ET #6

    Thankyou so much bert!!! 


    Now go jump off a bridge!!!
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    Thankyou so much bert!!! 


    Now go jump off a bridge!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 1:59 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Brettkenny:

    You have to laugh at you two....No Idea V1 (Battler), please change Geoff Carr to your name and the NSWRL to the HOG's tips and you have just described yourself....the fact No idea V2 (Chk) backs you up is to funny...

     

    Now before you both get in a complete tizzz about me posting on your thread, you have got to appreciate that you keep gifting me these opportunities....

     

    BOL today, please take the HOG’s tips, PLEASE!!!

    Brett, I don't know how to make it any clearer to you.

    I don't want you to post in my threads. At all. Ever.

    I haven't posted in yours since I said I wouldn't, in fact I only looked today because AM asked me to read a post of his. Otherwise, I wouldn't have even opened it.

    You see Brett, I think you're a fuckhead. That's only my opinion of course, as I know you many 'friends' that post in your threads. I also think you are a liar, a smartarse and firmly believe that you have some insecurity issues.

    You can try and bait me all you like, it really doesn't bother me.

    You are insignificant. You are nobody. And that upsets you.

    Do not post in my threads. I don't post in yours. Clearly this is hard for you to do, but if you put your simple, underdeveloped mind to it, you just may be able to manage it.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brettkenny:

    You have to laugh at you two....No Idea V1 (Battler), please change Geoff Carr to your name and the NSWRL to the HOG's tips and you have just described yourself....the fact No idea V2 (Chk) backs you up is to funny...

     

    Now before you both get in a complete tizzz about me posting on your thread, you have got to appreciate that you keep gifting me these opportunities....

     

    BOL today, please take the HOG’s tips, PLEASE!!!

    Brett, I don't know how to make it any clearer to you.

    I don't want you to post in my threads. At all. Ever.

    I haven't posted in yours since I said I wouldn't, in fact I only looked today because AM asked me to read a post of his. Otherwise, I wouldn't have even opened it.

    You see Brett, I think you're a fuckhead. That's only my opinion of course, as I know you many 'friends' that post in your threads. I also think you are a liar, a smartarse and firmly believe that you have some insecurity issues.

    You can try and bait me all you like, it really doesn't bother me.

    You are insignificant. You are nobody. And that upsets you.

    Do not post in my threads. I don't post in yours. Clearly this is hard for you to do, but if you put your simple, underdeveloped mind to it, you just may be able to manage it.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 2:55 AM ET #8

    No idea,
     
    Did you want a responce?
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    Did you want a responce?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 3:00 AM ET #9

    a responce
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 3:09 AM ET #10

     responce
     
     
     
    No, I don't want a reponse you illiterate fuck.
     
    I want you to refrain from posting in any thread I start.
     
    Pretty simple.
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    No, I don't want a reponse you illiterate fuck.
     
    I want you to refrain from posting in any thread I start.
     
    Pretty simple.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2009 - 3:13 AM ET #12

     
     
    argue with the uneducated and look what happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brettkenny:

    You have to laugh at you two....No Idea V1 (Battler), please change Geoff Carr to your name and the NSWRL to the HOG's tips and you have just described yourself....the fact No idea V2 (Chk) backs you up is to funny...

     

    Now before you both get in a complete tizzz about me posting on your thread, you have got to appreciate that you keep gifting me these opportunities....

     

    BOL today, please take the HOG’s tips, PLEASE!!!

     

    what the fuck is piss ant doing in this thread?????

    he must of ran out of alias' in his. got bored talkin to himself

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brettkenny:

    You have to laugh at you two....No Idea V1 (Battler), please change Geoff Carr to your name and the NSWRL to the HOG's tips and you have just described yourself....the fact No idea V2 (Chk) backs you up is to funny...

     

    Now before you both get in a complete tizzz about me posting on your thread, you have got to appreciate that you keep gifting me these opportunities....

     

    BOL today, please take the HOG’s tips, PLEASE!!!

     

    what the fuck is piss ant doing in this thread?????

    he must of ran out of alias' in his. got bored talkin to himself

     

     
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    Battler i like the concept of the coach and coaching staff picking their squad. it makes sense and as you say also makes someone accountable for the results.
     
    in game three i would love to see nsw go all out and try something new, pick some fringe players and begin to formulate their 2010 strategy.
     
    game 3 is a dead rubber, everyone (the media) will say it isn't and thats just to get bums on the seats. you lose the series the series is lost who cares if it is 2-1 or 3-0 not me. i care what the result is in 2010. 2009 is done and dusted
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    Battler i like the concept of the coach and coaching staff picking their squad. it makes sense and as you say also makes someone accountable for the results.
     
    in game three i would love to see nsw go all out and try something new, pick some fringe players and begin to formulate their 2010 strategy.
     
    game 3 is a dead rubber, everyone (the media) will say it isn't and thats just to get bums on the seats. you lose the series the series is lost who cares if it is 2-1 or 3-0 not me. i care what the result is in 2010. 2009 is done and dusted
     
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    Agree AM, they have to start planning for next year. I couldn't care less if they lose 3-0, makes no difference in my opinion. They blooded seven in game 1, six in game 2.
     
    I think it is pretty clear from the results that there is half a dozen or so guys in the team that played game 2 that won't be there next year, if ever again. There is no point persisting with them this year and then throwing seven more debutants to the wolves game one 2010.
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    Agree AM, they have to start planning for next year. I couldn't care less if they lose 3-0, makes no difference in my opinion. They blooded seven in game 1, six in game 2.
     
    I think it is pretty clear from the results that there is half a dozen or so guys in the team that played game 2 that won't be there next year, if ever again. There is no point persisting with them this year and then throwing seven more debutants to the wolves game one 2010.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 10:55 PM ET #17

    I mentioned this before game #2, but do you guys think we will see a 12 point spread?
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    I mentioned this before game #2, but do you guys think we will see a 12 point spread?

    No, not with the injuries to both sides.

    You'd have to think it may be a 'let-down' spot for Qld as well.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by norseman67:

    I mentioned this before game #2, but do you guys think we will see a 12 point spread?

    No, not with the injuries to both sides.

    You'd have to think it may be a 'let-down' spot for Qld as well.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:22 PM ET #19

    Bellamy is the new Ricky Stuart.

    Wins a premiership with a team of superstars, actually 1 of 3 just like Ricky. No ones dares speak ill of him. Now all of a sudden his lack of a game plan (which was evident at Melbourne last year) is showing.

    Sack him, sack the selectors
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    Bellamy is the new Ricky Stuart.

    Wins a premiership with a team of superstars, actually 1 of 3 just like Ricky. No ones dares speak ill of him. Now all of a sudden his lack of a game plan (which was evident at Melbourne last year) is showing.

    Sack him, sack the selectors
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:23 PM ET #20

    And Qld's dominance will die the day the Fridge and Freezer and Price call it a day.

    Who are Qld's props for game 3?
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    And Qld's dominance will die the day the Fridge and Freezer and Price call it a day.

    Who are Qld's props for game 3?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:26 PM ET #21

    Excuse my ignorance, but why has Brian Smith never been in the mix for the Blues role? The boys at Parra could never say enough good about him and it is clear what he has done with the Knights.
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    Excuse my ignorance, but why has Brian Smith never been in the mix for the Blues role? The boys at Parra could never say enough good about him and it is clear what he has done with the Knights.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:30 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    Bellamy is the new Ricky Stuart.

    Wins a premiership with a team of superstars, actually 1 of 3 just like Ricky. No ones dares speak ill of him. Now all of a sudden his lack of a game plan (which was evident at Melbourne last year) is showing.

    Sack him, sack the selectors

    Yep.

    Play one half on the left, one on the right. Never the two shall meet. Tie down Farah. Play it tight. Don't try and beat Qld on the edges. Bla, bla, bla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    Bellamy is the new Ricky Stuart.

    Wins a premiership with a team of superstars, actually 1 of 3 just like Ricky. No ones dares speak ill of him. Now all of a sudden his lack of a game plan (which was evident at Melbourne last year) is showing.

    Sack him, sack the selectors

    Yep.

    Play one half on the left, one on the right. Never the two shall meet. Tie down Farah. Play it tight. Don't try and beat Qld on the edges. Bla, bla, bla.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:30 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    And Qld's dominance will die the day the Fridge and Freezer and Price call it a day.

    Who are Qld's props for game 3?

    Price and Scott?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:

    And Qld's dominance will die the day the Fridge and Freezer and Price call it a day.

    Who are Qld's props for game 3?

    Price and Scott?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:32 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Excuse my ignorance, but why has Brian Smith never been in the mix for the Blues role? The boys at Parra could never say enough good about him and it is clear what he has done with the Knights.

    Certain aspects of the Sydney media have it in for him. The same media types who lobbied for Bellamy after Murray 'walked'.

    No NSW coach has ever survived back-to-back series losses.

    What will Carr and the other idiots do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Excuse my ignorance, but why has Brian Smith never been in the mix for the Blues role? The boys at Parra could never say enough good about him and it is clear what he has done with the Knights.

    Certain aspects of the Sydney media have it in for him. The same media types who lobbied for Bellamy after Murray 'walked'.

    No NSW coach has ever survived back-to-back series losses.

    What will Carr and the other idiots do

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2009 - 11:34 PM ET #25

    Fox Sports News interviewed Daley yesterday and asked whether he would be up for the role - surely it was a gee up.  Although, it would be comical to see the nose involved - if NSW are going to lose it might as well be funny as well.
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    Fox Sports News interviewed Daley yesterday and asked whether he would be up for the role - surely it was a gee up.  Although, it would be comical to see the nose involved - if NSW are going to lose it might as well be funny as well.
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